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Iowa-An Epic Hunting Tale
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Contributors to this thread:
Andrew M@Work 17-Dec-20
Andrew M@Work 17-Dec-20
Andrew M@Work 17-Dec-20
Boone 17-Dec-20
Bowboy 17-Dec-20
WV Mountaineer 17-Dec-20
JusPassin 17-Dec-20
Andrew M@Work 17-Dec-20
Andrew M@Work 17-Dec-20
Andrew M@Work 17-Dec-20
Andrew M@Work 17-Dec-20
Andrew M@Work 17-Dec-20
JohnMC 17-Dec-20
Old School 17-Dec-20
GhostBird 17-Dec-20
Inshart 17-Dec-20
BigOk 17-Dec-20
4nolz@work 17-Dec-20
paul@thefort 17-Dec-20
Bowboy 17-Dec-20
Andrew M@Work 17-Dec-20
Quinn @work 17-Dec-20
JohnMC 17-Dec-20
Scooby-doo 17-Dec-20
Southern draw 17-Dec-20
Bou'bound 17-Dec-20
SIP 17-Dec-20
t-roy 17-Dec-20
WV Mountaineer 17-Dec-20
Rgiesey 17-Dec-20
JSW 17-Dec-20
SIP 17-Dec-20
Milhouse 17-Dec-20
midwest 17-Dec-20
Chief 419 17-Dec-20
ahawkeye 17-Dec-20
LKH 17-Dec-20
Shiloh 17-Dec-20
beemann 17-Dec-20
WV Mountaineer 17-Dec-20
greg simon 17-Dec-20
Andrew M@Work 18-Dec-20
Andrew M@Work 18-Dec-20
buckfevered 18-Dec-20
buckfevered 18-Dec-20
Knifeman 18-Dec-20
4nolz@work 18-Dec-20
APauls 18-Dec-20
John in MO / KY 18-Dec-20
leo17 19-Dec-20
buckeye 19-Dec-20
Chukar 19-Dec-20
ryanrc 19-Dec-20
KSflatlander 19-Dec-20
Inshart 19-Dec-20
Longshot 20-Dec-20
Bow Crazy 28-Dec-20
Beav 28-Dec-20
deerslayer 28-Dec-20
Andrew M@Work 28-Dec-20
17-Dec-20
I started this as Iowa-GO! but realize that is a fairly weak title so here it goes! Iowa-For this who have never been to Iowa I have but 1 word. GO! I have been hunting since I was 5 living in NJ and now IL for the past 20 years or so. While the hunting is good in IL I had no idea how good hunting can be until this year. I had been buying Iowa points randomly for the past 15 years or so, not every year, in fact I finally had 4 points so my brother Stephen and I decided to go hunt IA. He had been twice before, once unguided on public land and once with this outfitter. Both times he had killed a deer. His guided experience was less than stellar but we decided to give it another try. I will not say who the Outfitter was since they are not a sponsor and it really doesn’t matter. We were hunting Zone 6 close to the Missouri border. I had absolutely no expectations for this hunt. I didn’t even know what to expect. We went the 3rd week of November from the 13th to the 20th. There were 15 hunters in camp the first week and 9 or so the second week and success was running about 50% from what I could tell. The outfitter leases 30 or so farms from 30 acres up to 1000 acres so we would have plenty of ground to hunt. It also turns out that my brother and I were the only ones in camp that weeks so we had the whole place to ourselves. We also had the only full time employee, and head guide, at our disposal so things were looking good. We were hunting typical Iowa, farmland with CRP and woodlots.

17-Dec-20
Iowa Day 1- November 14th The first day I got dropped off and was told to follow the bright eyes into the woods, stand was on my right. I was expecting a ¼ mile walk or so but it was only 50 yds or so and there was my stand for Day 1. I was hunting a funnel in between 2 woodlots with CRP to my left. I saw 2 good bucks walking the CRP before shooting light and then it started to get lighter. As soon as I could shoot I had a 2.5yo 8pt grunting like crazy and chasing a doe all over. At some point they got separated somewhat and I heard another deer grunting and running through the woods. Here comes this basket rack, hauling ass, he crosses the road thru the woods and literally runs into the doe, who then takes off running and he goes after her, and the 8 point is soon to follow. I had deer in view most of the morning and lost count at somewhere around 40 deer before noon. Mostly does, a few random bucks but nothing to shoot at. I am not bragging but simply stating facts I have killed 2 PY bucks, a 154” 8 pt and a 142” 11 pt. so I know how to judge deer and have seen a few true Booners in my life. The general rule of thumb is “Don’t shoot the 8 points” because most will disappoint you. Around 2pm I see a wide, heavy, tall buck walking right at me, kinda bird dogging looking for does but not moving that fast. I grab my bow thinking this is a shooter. As he gets closer I realize he is a clean 4 pt without a hint of brow tines. 20” wide, foot long tines and heavy, but not a shooter. Sure gets the blood pumping though. I saw a doe and 2 fawns around 3pm(we will visit them later in the story) and right at dark I grunted in a 130” 10 pt that to be honest I would have shot him but he hung up behind a little cedar tree at 25 yds and I never got a shot. End of day 1. My brother was hunting a 700 acre farm a few miles away and had a similar day. Not a bad Day 1.

17-Dec-20
Iowa Day 2-November 15th I convinced the guide to let me hunt the same stand again. There were just so many deer! Well it did a 180. Winds were gusting up to 50 mph and without my brother lending me a HBS, I would not have made it. Love the HBS and highly recommend them. Anyway, I did not see a deer until 1:30 or so when the doe and 2 fawns came by feeding on the acorns behind me, same place they went the other day. (we will visit them later in the story) I did grunt in a decent 8pt from about 300 yds away about 4 pm. He walked right to me, circled my treestand, did not see the deer he heard and went off in search of love. Since Tuesday was a slow day I will add some filler. I am shooting a PSE Brute set at #65 with, HHA 1 pin sight, PSE Bow Madness 300 arrows and Slick Trick Standard 125’s. I also switched my rest the Sunday before we drove out because my whisker biscuit was cracking so I added a QAD drop away rest. I sighted in in my backyard at 30 and 40 yds and thought everything was OK. Well we will see how THAT turns out. So slow day but my brother saw a ton of deer on his farm. Iowa Day 3-November 16th New farm, new stand. I was up in a ladder stand off a cut CRP field. Before I could shoot I had a buck cruising the edge of the field. Small 6 pt. I then saw quite a few deer throughout the morning and at one point had a real nice 8 pt come out of the draw behind me. My mind says “Shooter!!” I calmly move my sight to 30 yds and wait for him to walk out from the trees screening him settle the pin and promptly shoot right over his back! What??? How could I miss by a foot?? Looking back he was a wide heavy 8pt but not super tall so probably only 125 or so. Still, I missed him clean which was good. I saw a bunch of deer throughout the day, got slow mid day but overall a great day. I got down and got my arrow at noon and then shot it again at a leaf and same results, very high. Not good. I posted some of my hunt, with videos on Instagram @andrewmanukas1 if you want to view them but it will spoil the story.

From: Boone
17-Dec-20
Great read so far keep it coming. I hunted Iowa zone 4 in 08 11 14 and then in 20. Told myself with the price I would probably never go back but after always having great luck and opportunities I might keep trying. Along with I'm 35 and my dad at 60 now I will keep going until he physically can't do it anymore and it being 3 or 4 years before each hunt I hope he can get another 3 trips down there or more.

From: Bowboy
17-Dec-20
Keep it coming! Misses happen it's a part of bow hunting!

17-Dec-20
Getting on with it would be really cool. Not as cool as the hunt. Just cool to read when you are stuck at home.

From: JusPassin
17-Dec-20
Why no talk about hunting the upper tier of MO counties there. Has to be just as good.

17-Dec-20
Iowa Day 4-November 17th Same stand as yesterday, I again saw a ton of deer and at noon the guide texted me to say with the wind switching he was going to move me to a different farm. Fine with me. I also brought a few arrows with broadheads and did some shooting out of the stand with them. My arrows are dead on at 30 yds using my 20 yd pin. Don’t ask, I don’t know how it is so far off but the mystery is solved and it is a good thing I got sighted in. I can hear y’all now saying what kind of idiot replaces his sight right before a hunt and does not get 100% dialed in??? This kind of idiot. Mind you I am not a trophy hunter and never will be. I enjoy the PROCESS of hunting way to much to be concerned with how big the antlers are. I am having an absolute blast hunting with my brother, seeing tons of deer and just knowing it can happen at any moment. Mind you, these are dark to dark sits for 6 days straight, it is a grind, and I love it!! The second half of my day was spent sitting on a fenceline / hedgerow on about 40 acres of CRP and cut corn. This property butted up to an adjacent property that was not leased by this outfitter. If you have never sat on the edge of a cut corn field during the rut in Iowa, I HIGHLY recommend it. I must mention I shoot left handed, because of a lazy eye, and nobody sets up stands for lefties, as you will see. I also don’t use binoculars because it is to much weight for the little use I get out of them with 1 good eye but I should have brought them. This was a stick and hang on set and I really wished it was a ladder stand. I was sitting in a huge old water oak and there was no way I could shoot to my left in the CRP and my distance to the edge of the corn was probably 30 yds or so. Tonight was the stuff dreams are made of and changed me forever. At about 2:30 deer started filing out of the woods and then they literally poured out of the woods. I lost track of how many deer were in the cut corn but it was a lot. Of those deer (3) were in the 140-160 range and one was a solid 170+ 12 pt booner. They all were eating and then chasing does, then eating and this went on all afternoon. I was so mesmerized that I did not even turn my head to the left to check out the CRP field but when I did I almost fell out of the tree. Probably 15-20 deer in the CRP and a gagger 7 point is 23 yds away, oblivious to my presence. This deer was easily 4 ½ yo and a definite shooter. Bases like coke cans and just a big massive white rack…standing there feeding…at 23 yds!!! His left side was more of true “Y” than a beam with a tine it was just unreal!! I did all I could to get turned around and the tree was in the way. I contemplated taking my release off and shooting right handed but he got love struck and started chasing does. So at the end of the night 3 of the big bucks all chased does right into the corner of the woods about 65 yds in front of me. Easily my best night deer hunting ever. This whole time my brother Stephen is also seeing tons of deer and is way more picky than I am he is letting true 140” 8 points walk every day. I know because he was showing me video every night at the lodge.

17-Dec-20
Iowa Day 5-November 18th I once again asked the guide to let me sit the stand I sat the previous night. I knew once the deer left the corn in the morning I was in for a long dull day until the afternoon but I had to try it. Stephen eats only deer and was looking for some meat to take home so I got the text at 10 or so that he had shot a doe. Since the field was empty I asked to be picked up and go help track. Plus, I needed a break. I offered to buy lunch for everyone since cold ham sandwiches get old. We drove to Stephens stand and found his bloody arrow and a short track later a fat #118 dressed doe. The whole time since last night I was begging the guide to put a stand in the corner of the field or let me use my hang on I brought with me. No dice. He said if they did it again tonight he would consider moving a stand in there. Back in the magical stand for the evening hunt. Once again deer start pouring out of the woods and lots of small bucks and a few 3 ½ yo but no big bucks. Until….I once again scan the CRP and stepping out of the woods is the biggets buck I have ever seen, just an absolute beast, He was about 100 yds a way so with my rangefinder I did my best to assess this deer. He was at least a 10 or more, foot long brows, 2s and 3s and 8” 4s and whatever else he had. I guessed him in the 180-190 class. All the grunting in the world had no effect on him. He walked across the street and fed in the alfalfa with a bunch of does. Once again the only word I have is UNREAL!!! Once again Stephen is seeing all kinds of deer but wont drop the string on anything but a monster buck. We are having a blast.

17-Dec-20
Iowa Day 6-November 19th The last day of our scheduled hunt. Stephen wanted more deer meat so I said I would gladly shoot a doe. I went back to the same stand as day 1 and at 7:30 I see the doe and 2 fawns coming to eat the acorns behind my stand. Perfect. I let her get 20 yds broadside, draw, place the pin on her chest and release. I promptly spine her and drop her in her tracks. I hate this and send 2 more arrows into her to end her life. I win the big doe competition as mine dresses out at 127 lbs. The reason I hit high is she was 20 yds and I used my 20 yd pin. I should have aimed lower. Stephen is set for meat and we go pick him up and get lunch…again. The afternoon hunt we switch it up and I hunt his farm and the guide had set a stand in the corner by the magical stand so Stephen went to hunt that stand. I thought for sure he was going to torch a monster but he did not, He saw one but it was chasing does and he couldn’t get a shot. As the sun set on our last evening I was thrilled beyond belief. Got to see some new country, killed a few deer and got to spend some much needed time with just me and God. But wait…its not over yet.

17-Dec-20

Andrew M@Work's embedded Photo
Andrew M@Work's embedded Photo
Iowa Day 7-November 20th Back at the lodge, Stephen convinces me to stay for 1 more half day hunt. I am toast at this point but hey, we are here and not coming back soon so we stay for 1 more half day. Stephen wants me to hunt the pasture stand where he has been covered up in deer the past few days and has seen some huge bucks and had one at 5 yds but that is another story. It is an absolute perfect stand. A funnel around the corner of a cow pasture that every deer has to walk through if they are to walk this section of woods. The weather was perfect all week and this day was no different. Cool, not cold, light wind and high pressure. At 7, I turn to my left and see a gorgeous 2 ½ yo 9 point with long tines and a small drip tine on his right. Stephen had told me about this deer and I let him walk. Not easy to do on the last day but this deer will be a stud in 2 years. There are 2 roads that intersect at this stand and I had ranged trees at 20, 30 and 40 yds on the road to my north. At 7:30 I see a buck leading a doe through the woods and they are going to step out just past the 30 td oak tree. I took one look and said “Shooter” I will say that due to my bad eye most deer I shoot have more points than I think they did when I shot them. I see mass, some decent tines and when he turned his head I thought he was fairly wide. It’s the last half day and he is walking right into my shooting lane. I kept my pin on 20 because he is at 30, see how that works??? He steps out, I errp him, settle the pin and absolutely torch this buck, just 12 ring him. He runs off down a little ridge and I hear him crash, plus 2 tails went down the ridge and only 1 went up the other side. I know he is dead. Text Stephen, text the guide and tell them I just smoked a decent 8 pt and just wait. I go place an X on the road where he was standing but I do not go look for him. What a rush, it will NEVER get old. So after an hour we drive around to the other side of the property and come in to find him. He had my arrow in him when he ran and I saw the lighted knock go flying as it broke off. I wish I had videoed the recovery but I was just flying so high I forgot. As the guide is looking for blood I walk down the ridge and yell, “White belly, hes down” As the deer ran away they actually jumped like a 5 ft wide by like 15 foot deep washout thru the woods and he was on the other side. When I say this deer never bled a drop it is the truth. The first picture is him as I found him, double lung shot and not a drop of blood on him. So the guide looks at me and says “It’s 200 yds up over the ridge to the road or we drag him back through the ditch and 50 yds to the truck” No brainer. You should see 2 grown men struggle getting a mature buck up a sheer 15 foot ditch. We never let go and never lost our footing but it was challenge. And so ended our hunt in Iowa. I understand he is a 130” +/- 10 pt and not exactly why I came to Iowa but he is my 3rd biggest buck and I am thrilled with him. Just such a solid buck. Now…how do I get back to Iowa sooner than 5 years??? Stephen never did kill a buck but will be going back late season and I know he will kill one. I love you brother!!

17-Dec-20

Andrew M@Work's embedded Photo
Andrew M@Work's embedded Photo

From: JohnMC
17-Dec-20
Congrats and cool story! Next time your sight is off and you know it eat the cold sandwich and spend the time get your bow fixed instead of going to town for a hot meal!

From: Old School
17-Dec-20
Thanks for the recap. Sounds like you guys had a great time and made many memories. Nice buck as well.

From: GhostBird
17-Dec-20
Congratulations. Thanks for taking us along.

From: Inshart
17-Dec-20

Inshart's embedded Photo
Inshart's embedded Photo
Great hunt and recap.

From: BigOk
17-Dec-20
Congrats!!

From: 4nolz@work
17-Dec-20
Did you sight in with field points only?

From: paul@thefort
17-Dec-20
Nicely done Andrew. Story and buck. my best Paul

From: Bowboy
17-Dec-20
Congrats on a nice buck! IA is my favorite state to hunt whitetails. I went this fall and can't wait to go back, but it will be a few years.

17-Dec-20
No broadheads. I am a few years from retiring but looking to buy a house out there so I can be a resident. I can not wait 5 years to hunt there again. Wife is not so keen on the idea.

From: Quinn @work
17-Dec-20
Congrats on a great hunt! Thanks for sharing.

From: JohnMC
17-Dec-20
You should list outfitter or do a review on the outfitter review.

From: Scooby-doo
17-Dec-20
Very Nice!! Congrats! Shawn

17-Dec-20
Congrats

From: Bou'bound
17-Dec-20
Well done that was epic

From: SIP
17-Dec-20
Good thing ya cant get fined for bein a tool, there, drop kick murphy.

From: t-roy
17-Dec-20
Congrats on a great trip! Sounds like you hit the rut at the right time.

17-Dec-20
Awesome story and congrats on a great memory. That’s the trophy. A good buck is just extra.

From: Rgiesey
17-Dec-20
Sure sounds like some good days! Nice!

From: JSW
17-Dec-20
Congrats and thanks for sharing your story.

From: SIP
17-Dec-20
Congrats on a great trip. Sounds like it was a great time and getting to do it with ur brother is priceless!

From: Milhouse
17-Dec-20
Great story. Sounds like a blast. Congrats on the buck.

I'm booked for next November.... can't wait.

From: midwest
17-Dec-20
You definitely got your money's worth! Great buck and a great story....congrats!

You should for sure list the outfitter and do an outfitter review. Sounds like a great outfit.

From: Chief 419
17-Dec-20
Murphy - Not everyone is such an accomplished hunter as you. When describing a tool, look in the mirror. The OP said he wasn't a trophy hunter. Congrats on declaring yourself the score police. Well done. Everyone here is in awe of your rank or lack of. Guys like you are the reason many people don't post here anymore. Well done Sgt. Tool.

Nice buck Andrew. Get him mounted. When you look at him, you'll relive the details of the hunt over and over.

From: ahawkeye
17-Dec-20
Great story! Awesome buck, I'd love to take a trip like that sometime. Might consider it when the kids get a little older.

From: LKH
17-Dec-20
Thank you. That was a great read.

From: Shiloh
17-Dec-20
I think Murphy’s question was legit. The delivery could have been different, but I wouldn’t go with an outfitter who fined you for shooting something under their minimum. Lots of them do.

From: beemann
17-Dec-20
Good for you that experience should be why we all hunt. Well done..

17-Dec-20
Shiloh, that wasn’t Murphy’s point. At all.

From: greg simon
17-Dec-20
Congratulations on your buck!!! Thanks for posting up a good read. I hope to hunt Iowa next year.

18-Dec-20
Inshart-Thank You for correcting my picture. MurphyGSP-There is a 140" or 4 1/2 year old minimum at the outfitter or its a $500 fine. I understand why they do this, they need to let the deer get some age and from talking to the guide all week most people just cant control themselves when they see a 120" 8 point coming in. I am sure my deer was only 3 1/2 but I they let me pass because I did not get fined. They do fine all the guys who shoot 2 1/2 YO deer but thats really about it.

18-Dec-20
So Murphy I gave you the benefit of the doubt but you are just a tool and need to live with that. Outfitter looked at the deer and said it might be 3.5 but could be 4.5. Therefore no fine.

From: buckfevered
18-Dec-20
Murph, so glad we all know when you open your outfitting business have you will apply YOUR rules. As for Andrew and HIS outfitter, they worked out a different deal. Congrats Andrew on a great hunt, a nice write up, and a great buck! Hopefully you can talk the wife into your plan.

From: buckfevered
18-Dec-20
Happy for you Murph. Glad your getting what you need out of crapping on someone else's parade. Remember, never let an opportunity go by where you can firmly establish your high ground position and judge those left beneath you.

From: Knifeman
18-Dec-20
Sorry Murph db, but if the operation is not a game farm, how can an outfitter confiscate someones legally killed deer? Im calling bs. You must be a high fence hunter tool. That will learn the op from sharing his hunt.

From: 4nolz@work
18-Dec-20
Did you ever resight the bow? I wonder if your nock moved

From: APauls
18-Dec-20
Congrats. Sounds like you had an epic memory, which is what we’re all chasing each fall

18-Dec-20
Murphy GSP has been steadily working his way to the top of the Bowsite's Biggest A$$hole rankings. Stay tuned to see if he can take over the #1 spot!

18-Dec-20
Great story telling, fine buck! Thanks.

From: leo17
19-Dec-20
i think if an outfitter tried to keep your buck against your wishes they would be in some serious trouble with the DNR.

From: buckeye
19-Dec-20
Great deer and story,, thanks for sharing!

From: Chukar
19-Dec-20
Great story, congratulations!

From: ryanrc
19-Dec-20
That policy was not written by any lawyer. They do not legally own the deer and could not legally take possession. The fact that you believe that is possible tells us a lot.

From: KSflatlander
19-Dec-20
Great deer and great story. Who hasn’t been there with a sight malfunction at the worst time...ugggh. Way to overcome it. Congrats!

From: Inshart
19-Dec-20
So what's up with this "Murphy"??? I wasn't able to get here yesterday - did his post get taken off?

From: Longshot
20-Dec-20
I was wondering the same. It must have been deleted.

From: Bow Crazy
28-Dec-20
Great story! Thanks for sharing! BC

From: Beav
28-Dec-20
Loved the story and congrats on a great buck!

From: deerslayer
28-Dec-20
Thanks for the write up! Congrats on a fine buck!

28-Dec-20
Thanks for all the kind words. I just read it again and I was there! My brother is going back for 5 days beginning 1/1. I will give an update when he scores.

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