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Sight pin color
I’m going to buy a new single pin sight. I hunt turkeys and WT from ground blinds, WT from tree stand and elk, ground blind and spot stalk. What color of sight pin works best in this variety of hunting? Thanks
Men’s eyes have a higher affinity to green/yellow while women’s eyes prefer red. My eyes follow suit
Hands down, fluorescent green for me. Way more visible to me, than fluorescent yellow or red.
Thanks guys. Sounds like green is the way yo go.
Green works best for me for whatever reason
Is this not the Bowsite? Where is the guys coming in telling us all that we are idiots for preferring green? You guys are getting soft. ;-)
Matt......I think GF is on vacation.
I had always heard fluorescent green was the most visible - always made it my 20 yard pin for that reason. Last color I could see before dark - therefore the closest yardage pin.
I used Blue this year because it doesn't halo. I'll see 3 dots with green or red.
What was your opinion on the blue, WapitiBob?
T-Roy, I knew that when I scrolled down through the thread and never lost sight of the color green.
T, I liked it but it does need a tad more light than a green.
Science will say green which is validated above. Hands down. Next topic
Don't use red pins, I have been told by my trusted Bowhunting Optometrist, Genesis.
It's interesting, I'm the only one that said yellow, but I'm red-green colorblind. Probably a correlation there.
My yellow pin is that last one I see after sundown. My green pin is brightest during the day.
If you are still using red you are probably still a younger guy. Eventually you get old and red halos. Green is what I use but blue is probably the best to not halo, however it is not as bright as green and can need some artificial light to brighten it enough for a bowhunter.
Where can a guy get blue pins or fiber optics?
I tried blue, great for indoors but my observation was that it is not good outdoors unless you use an artificial light.
GF would be crying about using a pin is an unfair advantage.
Lancaster has blue. Opposite of Matt I needed light indoors for the blue, it was fine outside unless I was inside a blind. ymmv
"Lancaster has blue. Opposite of Matt I needed light indoors for the blue, it was fine outside unless I was inside a blind. ymmv"
Early/late/in shade I found blue had very little "glow", but it was fine in good light. Could be the fiber too, my experience was 10 or more years ago.
Just to mix things up, I think a one pin sight for any real hunting is a mistake...
I use green,yellow,green,yellow,green on my Spot Hogg sights. Got rid of the red a few years back when Bowsite eye doctors explained things. I like the green the best but like staggering the colors to keep my mind right.
Any color for me as long as its green
"I like the green the best but like staggering the colors to keep my mind right."
What works for you works for you, but just throwing it out that I paint the 40 and 60 yard pin bodies on my 7 pin white, so very easy to tell which is which.
"Just to mix things up, I think a one pin sight for any real hunting is a mistake.."
Mike can I show you how to consistently get mulies under 20 yds?. Now that's exciting. Just need one pin...https://youtu.be/V5UXsA8KbEg
Similar concept to Matt’s setup. My 20 & 30yd pins were green, then the 40 was red, then 50, 60 & 70 were green. Made it easy for me to fairly quickly figure out which pin was which.
I bought an inexpensive 'dot' sight for a rifle, it gives you a choice of red or green dots. Find myself using the green when carrying. I just pick it up better, especially at the lower settings.
5 pin, alternating green and yellow, 20 to 60 on the 10s, with the stem of the 50 painted flo yellow. (Been painting the stalk of the 50 yd pin for at least 35 years).
All 0.019” pins. Slider using the 60 yd green for practice at distances over 60 yds. And I agree with Mike U!
Yeah well that's what a lot of guys do, shoot at game 60 yds. and farther- often a lot farther. It's so unnecessary.
Shooting *targets* at 60 yards or even further will really tighten up your 'close game' when hunting. But you knew that.
Not a believer in it, sorry. Completely unnecessary and I don't practice beyond 25 yds. Almost all my shots are 15-20 yds. desert mule deer, elk, etc. and I have nearly 100% success. Most whitetails taken by bow are shot at under 25 yds. as well.
By the way, you can make one pin do a lot things if you know how...never seen any compound bowhunter use the method I refer to, however...yet rifle guys do it all the time. Guess...
Shooting out to 25 yards max why would a guy need more then 1 pin?
David A, I looked at your YouTube link. I don’t get it? How does it show me how to get deer under 20 yds? It just shows you with a dead deer? I’ve killed a few deer myself and helped a few other guys bowkill deer too.
Hi Mike, no the videos offer proof I'm not blowing hot air, that's all. I assume you looked at more than just that one video. If you want to know more, PM me.
I want the STAR method explained. Is that possible?
Green for sure for me is the easiest Yellow the hardest
WV Mountaineer, the STAR Method is a new way(s) to release the string (recurves/longbows) and new ways of aiming. STAR is an acronym. It's not just one method, but many, so it's a big topic.
I would say is sorta' like the fixed crawl method of shooting recurves/longbows that has grown in popularity in recent years in contrast to instinctive methods, but it is more precise and it's also better for bowhunting, IMO.
You can see some stuff here inc. comments from an Olympic coach, just use the scroll arrow for that video: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8v-_FNKBT6p1Fr3kWSTcew
Re: Mule deer, Mike I learned their actual language.
No disrespect David A. But what the heck are you talking about? Why all the mysterious references about what you do? Call all animals within 25 yds, have some special STAR shooting method, learned mule deer’s actual language? None of the videos I saw actually say anything? Is there one that does? Add a link. Is there a pay wall? Why a PM? Tell us all!
Mike, we are a decade into the same BS. My advice would be don't waste your time because what you got is what you are going to get. Smoke and mirrors.
Well, dang it Matt if there is a way to call all mule deer within 25 yds I want to know!?
Matt, you have the testimonial of an Olympic coach, what to you want? There's also a slow motion video of me shooting on the link I gave although of course it's just one style.
FYI, Pat L. has shared camp with me, ask him if he thinks I'm a flake. I didn't push my method on him or anyone else in any camp I have been in, but there are quite a few people who know me and some of the methods including some notables on this site...I've given a free seminar and it was open to all, you could have attended. I have freely given my time to many and shared ideas with many from those struggling to some of the most famous. I don't teach in posts.
Mike, I would have been glad to demonstrate vocalizations in a phone call. You are a respected outfitter, you should be more open minded to new ideas. There are many hunting methods that work, but school should never be out for the pro. There is always something new to learn. I really don't know how to demonstrate mule deer lingo in text, sorry.
Merry Xmas to all.
Come along on two of my recent hunts...cut and paste the urls.
Let's count our blessings, we are all brothers of the bow.
To return to topic, if I was shooting a pin I would paint the tip with a UV excitable paint. They come in different colors and generally look whitish-yellow, but I mean they excite to different colors such as green, yellow, blue and red. You can buy these on amazon.
Get some clear finger nail polish and swirl the paint powder and then apply to the end of your sight pin. Carry a small UV flash light to excite the pin esp. in a ground blind situation. It works fine and avoids electronics on the bow.
Now I realize many compound users have fancy light capturing sights, but they are so ugly I wouldn't be willing to attach them to the one compound I do have. I favor simplicity as a first principle.
"I really don't know how to demonstrate mule deer lingo in text, sorry."
If only there was a way to imbed sound into a YouTube video.
I’m very open minded, I’ve stolen most of my best ideas from other people. Willing to learn...
And I didn’t see a slow motion link of you shooting David...and no audio of deer calling anywhere... I really have learned a ton from other people, Not well known people but ones who are killers. Paul Medel with his elk nut app, complete game changer for hunting elk, etc.
I usually cant my bows, but Olympic Coach Kiraloff took this video of me shooting the bow vertically, no biggie...I only demonstrated one STAR Method for him. There are dozens of variations...he was fascinated with my releases...he said a lot more, but this is enough...
Mike, I am a CUSTOMER of Paul Medel...glad to pay for knowledge, I will not even hesitate and I have boxes of elk calls. Some that most people don't know about that are killers...you have to be proactive at a high level if you want to escape mediocrity. Just my philosophy...by the way I used to be on your mail list. Stay warm and have a great Xmas.