Going peepless what Kisser buttonContributors to this thread:
Jack Whitmrie jr 04-Jan-21
Bill in MI 04-Jan-21
Aluminum Rain 04-Jan-21
Cheesehead Mike 04-Jan-21
Jack Whitmrie jr 04-Jan-21
Jack Whitmrie jr 05-Jan-21
Jack Whitmrie jr 05-Jan-21
Going peepless and using a kisser plus nose button. Never shot a kisser, which one do I need/want. What size also please ?
Sorry Jack...I have to ask...Why would u do that? The peep is the key to archery accuracy.
You’re asking about a distinction without a difference they’re all the same don’t overthink this you can simply crimp on a brass nocking point to ensure constant contact if you are heartset on this solution. it’s about consistency and replication not one brand or kissor button
You're going from a very simple and accurate option to a mediocre option. Doesn't really matter what you use.
One mans key don’t fit every lock Dino
From: Bill in MI
I shot my best with both. A lg diameter peep and the smallest of kisser. This help to better keep my body geometry in order when shooting high and low angle shots.
Use a standard kisser of about 1/2” or less. I touch the string to my nose. Don’t use a peep and I shoot well.
I used the rubber speed buttons as a kisser and also peepless for years until my string was blocking my view of my pins then I put a peep in, I am a better shot with the peep and it slows me down shooting at game, which is good
Shot a lot with nothing on my compound including sights. I now shoot a small kisser and a fairly big peep. Never been a great shot either way but I get it done. Shawn
I went from kisser button only to no kisser and a peep, few years ago. My accuracy improved a lot.
Dunno. Tom Miranda seemed to make out okay with his Super Slam et al. Kisser button, left eye dominant.
Personally I hate peep sights so use a red dot. Of course all states don't allow it, then I'm relegated to a peep.
From: Aluminum Rain
Would you voluntarily shoot your gun with no rear sight? Be ause thats essentially what you are choosing to do here.
From: Cheesehead Mike
I use a big peep, standard ½" kisser and also touch the string to the tip of my nose. The redundancy helps when shooting steep angles out west or out of a tree.
I tried it a while back. I had switched up to one of the IQ sites too (yeah Miranda uses that I'm pretty sure). I found out fairly quickly that it wasn't for me. As stated above "one man's key doesn't fit into every man's lock" (I like that)
I started bowhunting in the late 1970s and never used a peep until 2008. Never had an issue shooting without one when hunting. I think peepless has advantages honestly. I have not made better shots on deer with a peep. I used to use a brass crimp as a kisser, but you could probably use some serving thread also for a more subtle kisser. I will say as bows have gotten shorter and string angles steeper, it might be more difficult as the string is further away from the eye. I used to use the string as a guide, kept the pins just to the left of the string when shooting.
“I think peepless has advantages honestly.”
I would think that anyone who ever struggled with a peep in low light would have to agree.
As stated it is not for everyone, neither is a peep site for everyone. I shot recurves instinctive for 31 years and did fairly well. I don't like a peep in low light conditions and makes my pins fuzzy. I been shooting without a peep for a couple of weeks and shot just as good with out it , Consistency is the key to any accurate bow shot! Adding a kisser will give me 3 anchor points, Thumb release under jaw, corner of mouth with kisser and a nose button. I'm not a pro archer just a simple OLD bowhunter that tries to keep my shots 30 yards and under 20 yards most of the time.
Thanks for the answer to my question guys!
U bet Jack! Good luck 2 u! Have u tried the larger peeps? Are they also blurry?
Yeah I use a larger peep, who knows I may try this and not like it then go back to peep. BUT I'm going to try it for a few months.
I shoot a kisser, a LARGE peep and touch the string to the tip of my nose. Really don’t use the peep as intended but rather just to make SURE I have proper form. It is about as big a peep as I can get to make certain I can shoot until the end of legal light. I shot with just a kisser for awhile until I missed a nice buck at a pretty steep angle. I was on my kisser but not looking across the string where I should have been due to the angle. I shot just fine with no peep from the ground. Anyway, I can’t hardly screw it up now unless I misjudge the range.
Bigdog that’s like saying everyone with 4WD today wouldn’t have survived without 4WD in the old days. No they would have survived just fine, albeit without 4WD
I shot without a peep for about 5 seasons after I quit hunting with recurves and longbows. I found that on flat ground, at known ranges, I was very consistent. When things got dicey was from an elevated tree stand shooting sharp downward angles. Then the tilt of my head and subconsciously dropping my bow arm toward the target animal upset the necessary body alignment and caused erratic shots (typically high/low misses, or worse). I went back to the peep and what it did was force me to keep my head (eyes) in the proper position that the bow was sighted in with and my shots improved from these elevated shot angles. Just something to keep in mind when tinkering with this style of shooting. Good luck and most of all, have fun while learning something new to you.
I hate peep sights, but they are a necessity for me. Not too bad without one on the practice range, where I'm standing on relatively flat ground and can concentrate on proper form/release. But shooting odd angles out of a treestand...or uphill/downhill shots from the ground...not so much.
The new Bowmar kisser buttons are out.. I won’t be buying one
A little off topic but I shoot a kisser in conjunction with a peep for another confirmation in my anchor, I’ve had 2 of them break in the last 6 months, 1 half will just exit the string I tie them on using serving instead of the brass crimps but it’s concerning never knowing where it may end up or ricochet into your eye. 1 was a truglo and not sure brand of other
I tried one, Shug, but I was all over the place with accuracy. Whatever the material is, it shrinks to nearly nothing when the weather gets cold. Except the rainbow colored one would expand every time it got close to my mouth. Weird.
Hahaha! Midwest, you're a one of a kind!
I shot a kisser button tied on, with a tied in peep for a very long time. Never an issue, consistent anchor. Put in new button every 2 years
Midwest Just shaking my head on that one
I shot compound, pins, fingers 3 under, index in corner of mouth for over 20 years, both with & without peep. Never tried a kisser & honestly the peep inside 30 yards was basically irrelevant, but beyond that it made a difference.
The biggest thing when not using a peep from treestands is bending at the waist on angled shots