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From: HuntSeeker
15-Feb-21

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Today Wisconsin DNR and advisory board passed a Quota of 200 wolves to be harvested in Wisconsin. Applications starting at 12:01a.m. Tuesday(tonight) on the DNR webpage and hunt to begin 2/22 to 2/28. Trappers and shooters who will actually harvest need to get in and in a week start to get them removed so we can begin to get our northern deer woods back. Pass the word!

15-Feb-21
Good for Wisconsin, that is a start.

From: Brotsky
15-Feb-21
200? Should be 800.

From: LBshooter
15-Feb-21
Wow, that's great. Residents only?

From: LBshooter
15-Feb-21
Wow, that's great. Residents only?

From: Pat Lefemine
15-Feb-21
Wait for it... I guarantee you the new administration will try to stop this somehow. I hope you guys fill the quota ASAP. Good luck.

From: Jaquomo
15-Feb-21
Do it fast. As soon as Haaland is confirmed I'm betting they'll pursue relisting ASAP.

From: Mule Power
15-Feb-21
Million dollar lawsuit by Friday......anything but wildlife management right.

From: GF
15-Feb-21
Honestly, after the last four years… You would think that most people who did not support Trump would feel that there are much more important matters to address at the moment.

From: Scoot
16-Feb-21
More important than saving wolves, GF? These idiots will prioritize this really high! Their so cute and cuddly!

From: skookumjt
16-Feb-21
Applications opened today. Drawing on the 19th. Hunt/trap until the quotas are filled in each zone. Little to no chance that legal challenges will stop it now that we have paid to apply.

16-Feb-21
Good luck to all who apply.

From: tobywon
16-Feb-21
It will be interesting to see if they can make the quota with a 7-day season, I guess 4,000 permits will help, but that just isn't a lot of time.

From: skookumjt
16-Feb-21
We got more than 200 in a few days with half the tags and almost entirely with traps back when we had the other seasons. Should be pure chaos with hounds and 4000 tags.

From: joehunter
16-Feb-21
Michigan UP needs to do the same!

From: tobywon
16-Feb-21
The article mentioned a 2 month season in the prior 3 years the hunt took place and it looks like they only got past 200 once, so I figured 7 days would be pretty tough.

From: paul@thefort
16-Feb-21
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Wisconsin to Resume Wolf Hunting Season, But What About Minnesota? Written by Tom Steward in Governance on December 10, 2020 Print It took decades for the US Fish and Wildlife Service to get to the point of removing the gray wolf from the Endangered Species List in late October. But it took only days for Wisconsin to embrace its newly restored management authority by becoming the first state to announce the resumption of a wolf hunting season next winter as required by state law upon official delisting in January 2021.

The Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources welcomes the responsibility of again managing wolves in Wisconsin. The department has successfully done so for decades and will continue to follow the science and laws that influence our management. All wolf management, including hunting, will be conducted in a transparent and deliberative process, in which public and tribal participation will be encouraged.

Wisconsin will pick up where it left off, updating a highly regarded wolf management plan that was in place until a federal judge intervened in 2014. The plan attempts to balance the concerns of farmers with vulnerable livestock, hunting and environmental interest groups and the imperative for a thriving wolf population.

The DNR will continue to partner with USDA-Wildlife Services to address wolf conflicts in Wisconsin…Until delisting takes effect, it remains unlawful to shoot a wolf unless there is an immediate threat to human safety. Following the delisting effective date, the DNR may implement all abatement measures as applicable to each situation, which may include lethal control.

Yet rather than welcome the return of local control to the state with more gray wolves than any of the lower 48, Minnesota’s top elected official criticized the decision. Gov. Tim Walz opposes delisting of the wolf for “ecological and cultural reasons” as well as hunting, a tool his predecessor successfully used to manage the wolf population.

Instead of implementing Dayton’s plan, however, the Minnesota DNR is rewriting it, while downplaying the hot button issues of hunting and depredation on its website in the meantime.

We recognize that the USFWS’s delisting decision will give immediate rise to questions about whether Minnesota will establish a hunting or trapping season for wolves. However, we want people to understand that wolf management is about far more than whether hunting and trapping wolves is or is not permitted in Minnesota. Our commitment to a healthy and sustainable wolf population in Minnesota is unwavering.

The gray wolf’s comeback across Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan is not only a tribute to the Endangered Species Act at its best but also the agencies of every level of government working together. The question is whether the states now back in control can acknowledge their success and move ahead.

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From: xtroutx
16-Feb-21
Wisconsin is doing the right thing. I have no doubt 200 tags will be filled in the time frame. Some of these big city, big government people need to have a few dumped in their neighborhood. I hope it goes through.

From: skookumjt
16-Feb-21
The prior seasons saw zones hit their quotas within two days in some cases and we killed 350 I think the first year. The season only lasted because one zone was still under the quota.

From: Old School
16-Feb-21
Minnesota politicians doing something stupid shouldn’t surprise anyone. Feel bad for the normal folks living there that have to put up with it all.

16-Feb-21
Also, Wisconsin wasn't exactly proactive in getting the wolf season opened this winter, it took a lawsuit against the DNR to make it happen.

From: paul@thefort
16-Feb-21
The Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources will allow hunters to kill 200 wolves in the last week of February even as the state appeals a judge’s order requiring the winter hunting season.

Acting on orders of a Jefferson County judge, the Natural Resources Board voted unanimously Monday to authorize a February hunting and trapping season for the gray wolf, which was removed last month from the federal endangered species list.

The DNR will issue up to 4,000 permits based on a recommended quota of 200 wolves.

That’s twice as many permits as recommended by staff, but board member Greg Kazmierski said given the shortened season having more hunters in the field would make it more likely to hit the quota. It would result in about one hunter per four square miles, about 2.5% the density of deer hunters.

Greg Kazmierski Kazmierski

WISCONSIN DNR “It’s not like there will be a wolf hunter behind every tree,” Kazmierski said.

The agency estimates there were 1,195 wolves in the state as of April 2020. The state wolf management plan goal is 350 wolves living outside of tribal reservations.

In a memo to the board, DNR Secretary Preston Cole said public and tribal input was “very limited” and that the Wolf Advisory Committee was unable to meet on the proposed quota, which is designed to ensure stability of the wolf population.

Natural Resources program supervisor Dave MacFarland said it’s hard to predict exactly how the wolf population will respond, especially given the unusual timing of the hunt.

“Even with 1,000 wolves on the landscape, every 10 wolves represents 1% of the population,” MacFarland said. “There’s going to be uncertainty.”

The application period opens at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday through gowild.wi.gov or through a license agent. The DNR will announce drawing results on Feb. 22, and winners can begin hunting and trapping once they purchase a license. The season ends on Feb. 28.

The DNR will then begin accepting license applications for the November season on March 1.

Support Local Journalism Your membership makes our reporting possible. There was no public testimony allowed at Monday’s meeting, but the board received nearly 2,000 written comments after posting a meeting notice Friday.

The wolf hunt has been a contentious issue for years. Those who favor hunting say the animals kill livestock and pets, and terrorize rural residents, while wildlife supporters say the creatures are too beautiful to kill and Native American tribes consider them sacred.

In January, the board narrowly rejected a call from GOP lawmakers to hold a winter wolf hunt amid concerns that the department had not consulted tribal nations as required by treaties and did not have time to set quotas.

But Circuit Judge Bennett Brantmeier ordered the agency to hold a hunt this month after the head of Hunter Nation Inc. sued the DNR, claiming it had violated hunters’ constitutional rights.

The state on Monday asked the court of appeals to put a hold on Brantmeier’s order, arguing he misunderstood the law and that holding a hunt in February will require the DNR to disregard steps in administering a hunting season that are outlined in state law or in tribal treaties.

The Department of Justice asked the court of appeals to rule by 5 p.m. Monday, saying it would avoid the confusion and frustration that would arise if the court were to block the hunt after the application period opens.

An appeals panel on Monday afternoon gave the Kansas-based hunting organization until noon Wednesday to respond.

Natural Resources Board Chair Frederick Prehn said the DOJ did not consult with the board before filing the appeal.

“Court stay or no court stay, our task remains the same,” Prehn said.

From: paul@thefort
16-Feb-21

From: paul@thefort
16-Feb-21
ACROSS WISCONSIN — A Kansas-based hunting organization is suing the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources for not allowing people to hunt wolves this winter.

Hunter Nation Inc. filed the lawsuit Tuesday in Jefferson County Circuit Court against Wisconsin DNR Secretary Preston Cole, the Wisconsin DNR and the Wisconsin Natural Resources Board.

"Wisconsin law requires the DNR to hold a hunting and trapping season if the gray wolf is not under federal protections. Despite this clear mandate, Gov. Evers, Secretary Cole and the Department of Natural Resources are playing politics and intentionally delaying the wolf harvest to give radical anti-hunting groups time to block the delisting and stop a hunt altogether," Luke Hilgemann, President of Hunter Nation, said in a news release.

The Trump administration delisted the gray wolf from the Endangered Species Act on January 4, 2021, triggering a 2011 state law the hunting organization said that requires Wisconsin's DNR to schedule a grey wolf hunting season between November and February.

The DNR's policy board voted 4-3 last month against opening the season by Feb. 10 amid concerns that the department had not consulted tribal nations as required by treaties and did not have time to set quotas, according to Wisconsin's State Journal.

Subscribe Hunter Nation President and CEO, Luke Hilgemann, and Hunter Nation, a non-profit organization dedicated to preserving and protecting America's hunting heritage and the right to hunt, is represented by Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty.

"The Wisconsin DNR does not have the discretion to determine whether to follow state law when it comes to scheduling a gray wolf hunt. WILL intends to hold Wisconsin's administrative agencies accountable until this pattern of ignoring state law ends," WILL Deputy Counsel, Anthony LoCoco, said.

DNR spokeswoman Sarah Hoye told Wisconsin's State Journal that the agency "will be reviewing the complaint" and is taking steps to implement a wolf hunt in November 2021. In addition, the agency said it's working towards completing a 10-year wolf management plan that will guide future management decisions for wolves in Wisconsin.

WILL's lawsuit, however, alleges DNR's decision to forgo a gray wolf hunt until November 2021 violates state law and the Wisconsin state constitution's guarantee of a right to hunt. Once the gray wolf was delisted on Jan. 4, the lawsuit claims Wisconsin DNR had an obligation to comply with state law that permits the trapping and hunting of gray wolves for a season between November and February.

Wisconsin last held a wolf hunt in 2014. The DNR estimates the state is currently home to nearly 1,100 wolves in 256 packs, a modern day high.

From: tobywon
16-Feb-21
I see skookumjt, I didn’t realize that. Thanks for the clarification.

From: Danbow
18-Feb-21
They say 200 wolves but in reality it's only 100 wolves because 100 wolves will B declared by the natives and they won't shoot any it's their prerogative

From: Norseman
18-Feb-21
Meanwhile the Fed traps hundreds every year in Mn and Wizco

From: Danbow
18-Feb-21
Did the math and probably 128 depending on what is claimed. 56 tags outside of the ceded territory that they are not eligible for.

From: NoWiser
18-Feb-21
Hope to see some some successful smiling hunters and trappers soon. Best of luck to all the wolf hunters.

From: skookumjt
18-Feb-21
The tribes haven't claimed them in the past and likely won't because it would contradict their stated position and likely weaken their position on the harvest they do claim for fish, bear, deer, etc. which is significant.

From: Gotta Hunt
18-Feb-21
I've got my application in, along with my wife and kids. Hopefully someone draws and we will be in the game on Monday. Best of luck to all who applied.

From: Danbow
18-Feb-21
I beg to differ that they haven't claimed them in the past. Every wolf they claim is one less that is killed and they will not hunt them. They consider them their brother. And it has nothing to do with deer and bear etc. The Voight decision 1983 states they have 50 percent of the harvest. It's in the treaty .

From: Norseman
19-Feb-21
Meanwhile the Fed traps hundreds every year in Mn and Wizco

From: skookumjt
19-Feb-21
Beg all you want. They didn't claim any quota during the previous seasons and they aren't likely to this time.

From: Croixbaby
19-Feb-21
"Brother"?? More like an annoying neighbor!!

From: Danbow
19-Feb-21
Tribal Quota: The department set one-half of the 2012 wolf harvest quota aside for Ojibwe tribes based on Voigt case requirements and based on wolf counts within the area of each zone delineated as ceded territory. This tribal quota amounted to 85 wolves, leaving 116 for statelicensed hunters and trappers. (From PDF 2012 Wisconsin wolf hunt) 2012 hunt 117 wolves harvested

From: xtroutx
20-Feb-21
Appeals judge ruled against the Wisconsin DNR request to stop the hunt. Shame on WDNR for trying to stop it. Slap in the face from the DNR to hunters for even trying.

From: sticksender
20-Feb-21

From: LBshooter
20-Feb-21
Well what WI residents should do is not buy a license all of next year and put a few DNR guys on the unemployment line lol.

From: Live2Hunt
22-Feb-21
That one thing really opened my eye's about the WI DNR. I plan on writing a comment about it letting them know we don't pay them to put a stop to hunts especially for something that is an important conservation measure. They know the impact of the wolves in the area's they inhabit. Most areas do not rebuild at all, the fawns just do not have a chance. Really sickening to hear about this, every hunter everywhere should send the WI DNR comments about this. Pretty sad times in the hunting world when a DNR stops hunting.

From: HuntSeeker
22-Feb-21
Got 2 pictures today from a friend of 2 confirmed wolf kills in NW Wisconsin that he and his crew shot today. Half day of hunting and 2 wolves killed - just spit balling here but maybe, just maybe there are way more damn wolves in Northern Wisconsin than the DNR is estimating? As I have said often there are more than 350 wolves in Rusk county where I hunt FFS. Luckily this crew has 2 more tags as well so here's to hoping they fill them!

22-Feb-21

Missouribreaks's Link
Never ends.

22-Feb-21
Sounds like some butt hurt little snowflake who wrote that article Missouribreaks!! It must suck going through life being offended over anything and everything.

From: Danbow
22-Feb-21
DNR didn't want this hunt and I was told I could beg all I want that the tribe wouldn't claim their quota well I'm not begging tribes declared their quota and were at 119 from 200! Probably didn't draw my tag because a bunch of wolfies applied and won't hunt them anyways!

From: GF
22-Feb-21
“ Wolves lost protections in the waning days of the Trump administration against the objections of wildlife associations and environmental organizations. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service delisted gray wolves as endangered on Jan. 4, eliminating protections under the federal Endangered Species Act.”

You have to love the way that they position “wildlife associations” and “environmental organizations” as if they were independent/state science-based organizations and not just HSUS by another name...

From: LBshooter
22-Feb-21
Talked with a buddy today who is in the UP, and he said their motto is the three S's, Shoot-Shovel-shut up. I suspect there is some non professional management going on that takes it toll. Will be interesting how many take wolves.

From: Rut Nut
23-Feb-21
This should help too:

“Because of the timing of the hunt, during breeding season, pregnant wolves will likely be killed.”

From: Live2Hunt
23-Feb-21
Such a stupid stupid world we live in nowadays. Big City dwellers who know nothing about rural area's trying to make everyone think, feel, do what they do. Then they have big stupid mouths that cry enough till some buy into it. The hunter nations sounds like a great thing to be part of to fight back on these idiots.

From: happygolucky
23-Feb-21
Read on the WI board that 52 of the 119 were already taken.

From: Scoot
23-Feb-21
"The hunter nations sounds like a great thing to be part of to fight back on these idiots."

Never been a better time for hunters to do just that! If we don't band together and get organized, we'll lose the fight very quickly.

Great news that wolves are actually being taken in WI. Now... if MN could just get on board!

From: Brotsky
23-Feb-21
Didn't it open yesterday? They killed half the quota in a day? Dang, maybe the quota needs to be re-thought.

From: happygolucky
23-Feb-21
It went really fast with the first 2 hunts years ago. The WDNR claimed back then there were around 850 wolves in WI. I could release 800 unicorns across the top 3rd of the state and no way would the quota be reached that quickly. The WDNR has never been good at estimating anything.

The quota should have been doubled knowing the tribes were going to claim their tags which go unused.

I expect lots more legal battles again before the next possible season.

23-Feb-21

Novembermadman 's embedded Photo
Novembermadman 's embedded Photo
Some of these zones will be filled by the end of today!

From: Live2Hunt
23-Feb-21
I bowhunt deer some in zone 5. You can really tell the impact of the wolves in that area. There have been limited doe tags on the public forest areas and the deer have not rebounded at all, maybe even less now. 17 killed already in that area only shows how many there really are.

From: Danbow
23-Feb-21
Need to rename DNR to Dam Near Retarded!

From: Z Barebow
23-Feb-21
RE: MissouriBreaks article. Huffpost is comparable to Der Sturmer of WW2. Wayne Pacell is anything "unbiased". That article is a piece of cr@p. If you print it, it would not suffice for toilet paper.

If the logic were to never hunt an animal while pregnant, all deer seasons would be closed after 11/20 in the midwest.

"Although the hunt is scheduled through Feb. 28, it will continue until 200 wolves are slain." Apparently math and facts are not important (or a strong suit of ARA). Per above post, quota is 119 (which is not 20% of 1000) and I would expect at least one zone won't reach quota. So 119 dead wolves is "best case" scenario.

Also do a little research. Assuming population 1000 wolves in the state (per article), this will not affect wolf population growth in the state. (Per studies, overall wolf population must be reduced by greater than 50% annually to reduce population. [Dependent upon age structure in harvest totals])

Another hole. Per DNR, 1000 wolves and 256 packs. Per quick internet search, average pack size for wolves is ~ 6 wolves. (For cheeseheads, that number is the amount of beers in a 6 pack) DNR, please review your Wisconsin math.

I could go on, but I need to eat my Sheboygen brat.

From: Huntcell
23-Feb-21
So the Tribal / Clans wouldn't actually kill any wolfs for half of the statewide allotted kill quota. Easy fix, next time, Double the statewide kill quota.

Oh ya and increase the lottery permits issued another 10% to compensate for the permits that members of the Wolf Patrol Project like to burn in protest gatherings.

From: Huntcell
23-Feb-21

Huntcell 's Link
a you tube link https://youtu.be/UYZ_rZXJABw of a Wolf Patrol member burning his wolf hunting permit. he explains by burning his $10 kill authorization permit that he is saving a wolf. No dummy the kill quota will be filled weather you burn your personal permit or not. You need to burn thousands of them. Thanks for the $$10 to apply and $49 for the license, plus convenience fees. $59 to help with Wisconsin wolf management program.

in the background is a group of hunters with one dead wolf. nice group photo.

From: t-roy
23-Feb-21
Huntcell....evidently, that Wolf patrol pinhead is less concerned about contributing to global warming and carbon emissions, than he is about saving a wolf.

From: Danbow
23-Feb-21
Congratulations to all the successful hunters and Trappers that being said wolf carcasses and pelts have to be registered within 30 days after the Harvest at a DNR Station if anyone is falsifying these numbers I hope they are charged with felonies and thousands of dollars worth of fines. Our DNR has been questioned for Harvest numbers for as long as I can remember and I personally would like to see photos of carcasses of all the Wolves taken. Better yet I would like to see Senators Johnson and Baldwin have proof of this as they pushed for a bill to have wolves delisted bipartisan!

23-Feb-21
Yes, congratulations to all who found success.

From: Danbow
23-Feb-21
In 2013 Wisconsin had roughly 16600 applications for Wolf tags in 2014 it dropped down to 9300 roughly this year we had 27,000 for for a 7 day season. And those other years the season went from October to February if it didn't close earlier. Plus with the short notice of the hunt how many died in the wool wolf Hunters could really get off vacation time on such short notice and there's 12 to 18 inches of snow on the ground up north and hard to get around I know cuz I scouted last weekend. That's alot of wolves killed when you didn't know you had a tag till 12 am monday morning. There's alot of people that didn't want this hunt to happen! Just sayin.

23-Feb-21
I was correct in my guess of a 72 hour season!!! Let's hope we can have a season again in November and times the quota by a 1000!!!

That blows my mind is that I know of 3 groups of houndsmen that killed 2 wolves each on day one with only having a two guys with a tags/weapons. These same groups struggle at times to shoot a coyote when everyone is allowed to carry a weapon with them. Do we have a healthy population???? I think so!!!

23-Feb-21
I believe that Wolf Patrol pinhead is Rod Coronado. Animal Liberation Front nut job, arsonist, convicted felon (multiple times over)

Quite the piece of “work” that these wealthy, urban, anti-hunting “furries” choose to support.

From: GF
23-Feb-21
I’m 100% OK with people burning tags when it has zero impact on reaching the management objective.

And I would agree that the penalties for falsely claiming to have taken an animal under a quota should be the same as for taking the same animal without the proper permits or via illegal methods.

Fair is Fair.

From: ryanrc
23-Feb-21
How do they hunt them with hounds?

23-Feb-21
All units will be closed tomorrow and some did not reach their quota. Especially Zone 1 in the far northwest which has the most wolves. Quota was 31 and only 9 were killed but they're still closing the season. Our DNR sure is messed up. Wolf hunters didn't have to travel very far north to hunt wolves with so many wolves closer to home.

From: JL
23-Feb-21

JL's Link
"Animal Liberation Front"

ALF is a radical, left-wing extremest terrorist group. Same genre as ELF...Earth Liberation Front.

" Summary:

The Earth Liberation Front (ELF) is the collective name for autonomous individuals or covert cells who, according to the ELF Press Office, use "economic sabotage and guerrilla warfare to stop the exploitation and destruction of the environment". Founded in Britain in 1992, it is regarded as descending from Animal Liberation Front because of the relationship and cooperation between the two movements. The Earth Liberation Front has no formal leadership, hierarchy, membership or official spokesperson and is entirely decentralized, instead consisting of individuals or cells who choose the term as a banner to use. Like ALF, ELF emerged as a derivative of another environmentalist organization, Earth First! (EF), which had abandoned its illegal and violent activities by 1992 and become more mainstream. The first known ELF activity in the U.S. occurred in 1996 when members set fire to a United States Forest Service truck in Oregon. VideoVideo: 2008 Igniting a revolution - An… Earth Liberation Front (ELF), also known as Elves is an active group formed c. 1992."

From: Glunt@work
23-Feb-21
I hope WI wolf hunters have learned to hold off reporting their wolf kills until the 24 hours is almost up.

From: btnbuck
24-Feb-21
It would be a shame if the other half of the quota that isn't getting harvested were somehow ''unrecovered".

From: Live2Hunt
24-Feb-21
Danbow, Retracted. Got it now, slow brain, LOL.

From: LBshooter
24-Feb-21
If the Indians believe that the wolf is sacred amd won't shoot them, then why are they gven half the permits?

From: Live2Hunt
24-Feb-21
To me, the spearing, the wolf tags is all publicity. I know a guy who was working with the chief one of the tribes in WI selling heavy equipment. He overheard the chief telling someone to make damn sure he makes people get out on the lakes to spear.

From: HuntSeeker
24-Feb-21
135 down as of 8am this morning against a quota of 119 for non-tribal!!! So awesome lets hope many more shot before it closes today.

From: Brotsky
24-Feb-21
Well done 'sconis! Stack them up!

From: Live2Hunt
24-Feb-21
I agree Danbow, there should be an in person registration for a hunt like this. Hopefully the waco's are dumb enough to not notice this.

From: Hh76
24-Feb-21
While there isn't an in person registration, you are required to have the carcass inspected by an agent at some point after registering.

24-Feb-21

Missouribreaks's Link

24-Feb-21
There is some outrage that the 135 kill exceeds the quota of 119 but they are forgetting that the original quote was 200 prior to the native Americans claiming 81 tags which will go unfilled.

From: djb
24-Feb-21
The number is up to 162 so there is still a chance to hit the quote of 200.

From: Glunt@work
24-Feb-21
Population goal is 350 so they have a 450 wolf buffer even if 200 are taken.

With old math, if you have 1000 wolves and only want 350, you remove 650.

From: Danbow
24-Feb-21
Whatever they go over in the kill if they still have a hunt in November they'll probably just reduce it from that total I would suspect. But then maybe not??

From: JL
24-Feb-21

JL's embedded Photo
JL's embedded Photo
Just for giggles....I got this in the inbox a second ago. I thought it was a pretty cool map of the Voyagers packs.

From: Knothead
24-Feb-21
As an Arizonan with a growing wolf population I am watching this thread pretty closely Happy to see the wolf population being managed by hunters and from the looks of it they are doing pretty well for such a short hunt. I'm guessing the wolves will begin to have a little more fear of humans after they see a few of their buddies being taken out.

The map above is very cool and educational. Looking closely there is a wolf in the White pack that seems to like living dangerously and venturing far from home pack. Probably some young and dumb male.

Keep up the good work

From: Screwball
24-Feb-21
178 as of 3:07

From: Danbow
24-Feb-21
Hoping the lucky Hunters are cordial enough to take their wolf back straps and invite the members of Wolf Patrol to a big game Feed and have a howling good time!!!

From: LBshooter
24-Feb-21
What's the break down between male and female?

From: welka
25-Feb-21
On Wisconsin - will be close to 200 vs 117 goal. Fast season and easy. I have seen 20 pics of the 200 with some big dogs. Way to go WI boys!

From: Unchained
25-Feb-21
Up to 213 wolves killed. Hunters did a great job.

From: Beav
25-Feb-21
Great news!!

From: Brotsky
25-Feb-21
I've gotten some great trophy photos texted to me the last two days! Love seeing them!

From: midwest
25-Feb-21
That's great news!

From: Rickm
25-Feb-21
No Bowsiters with a wolf kill? Was hoping for a story and some pics.

From: timberdoodle
25-Feb-21
The goal being exceeded, the lawsuit to force the dnr to open a season before they were ready, all of the celebration about exceeding the quota - this will be why the issue will be litigated and litigated ad nauseum. Its a really short-sighted game to play, & just reinforces the message to those opposed to the hunt that the hunters would kill as many as possible and can't be trusted. Instead of demonstrating restraint and strict adherence to scientific management, this hunt will just reinforce all of the negative perceptions. Go ahead & celebrate everyone. Great job.

From: Glunt@work
26-Feb-21
Trying to appease the animal rights folks, or anyone on the left is a waste of time.

WI was 650 wolves over the target population. There should have been a season every year. The listing/ delisting seesaw is ridiculous. It's not the licensed hunters who won't adhere to scientific management

From: Huntcell
26-Feb-21
Thats a tall horse you ride, be careful of low branches.

From: Huntcell
26-Feb-21
Thats a tall horse you ride, be careful of low branches.

From: Danbow
26-Feb-21
This hunt was and is going to be litigated if only 20 wolves were killed! One side will use perception and the other flawed science. This wasn't our 1st wolf hunt so they had previous science to work from. Maybe all the volunteer wolf counters don't have their data right. Maybe we have over 2100 wolves instead of 1100 . And this hunt took place over the watchful eye of the Wolf Patrol making sure no violations and reporting if their was! As I posted before if we have another hunt they will adjust the numbers then just as they would with doe tags if we had a severe winter. We can trust them to use the science and not human emotion. Everyone had skin in this game not just the hunters overharvesting! Under the rules set forth!

From: Live2Hunt
26-Feb-21
I am going to join the Hunter coalition. I liked that they came in and got in the WI DNR's face for stopping the hunt and hopefully can have an impact on the anti-hunting movement.

From: Danbow
26-Feb-21
Live2hunt x2

From: Old School
26-Feb-21
Timber d - “Instead of demonstrating restraint and strict adherence to scientific management” - lol. Do you really believe the nonsense you continually spew? Like the other side uses science - really???? The wolves are way over stated population objective and yet there was resistance and litigation to not allow this lawful hunt. The other side isn’t using science at all - well except political science. Hunters taking 2 wolves or 202 isn’t going to change the perception of the “other side”

From: Brotsky
26-Feb-21
timberpoodle, one side can use litigation and the side of science, management, and conservation should just sit back and take it in stride without fighting for what's right?

From: Lost Arra
26-Feb-21
Is there a breakdown on trapped vs killed by hunting? I'm guessing that trapping is much more effective.

From: Gileguy
26-Feb-21
Last week on a public radio program Adrian Wydevan (retired Wi DNR now timber wolf alliance head) said new metrics show Wisconsin could sustain 1100 wolves!! Incredible, we may never have a decent deer population in northern Wisconsin.

26-Feb-21
Restraint?!? Depending on who’s estimates you want to use, there are three to eight times the number of wolves that they stated was their goal.

And it’s the hunting community that can’t be trusted timberdoodle?!?!?!

Not the wack jobs rallying behind a multiple convicted felon, arsonist and domestic terrorist?!?!?!

That’s rich.

Zone 6 supposedly had A total of 58 wolves according to the estimate from April. Forty wolves were taken in that zone in two days with no preparation time.

Seems statistically impossible.

From: GF
26-Feb-21
“ We can trust them to use the science and not human emotion. Everyone had skin in this game not just the hunters ”

That’s what I keep praying for....

The problem is that the Antis have ZERO skin in the game; they have absolutely NOTHING to lose, because their backers will continue to fund them no matter what.

I mean, if you think about it… WINNING would be the worst possible outcome for these groups, because they would be without any viable argument for their existence. Breaks your heart, doesn’t it? To think of all of those activists and lawyers outta work??

Snif.... (sorry... I just needed a moment…)

I just have to believe that the professional managers are still thinking this all the way through… Hunting is NOT going away, because if the wolf population expands enough, they will chase all of the deer into areas where wolves will not be welcome; if humans don’t control the numbers in those areas, we’ll be up to our eyeballs in ‘em all over again.

But if there are too few deer for humans hunters’ tastes in the areas where they have access to land, then tag sales will drop off to next-to-nothing and there will be no revenue to support the management outside of the state’s general funds.... But the DNR will forever be dependent on volunteer labor to get the actual management done.

Just a thought... Maybe they should raise the price on a Wolf permit; it could probably go pretty high before it would actually deter participation, and they’d make gobs o’ cash off of the protest buyers.

I think a lot of the folks here keep trying to reduce this to a for-profit business model, which is unproductive, because the agencies have a directive to manage the resource responsibly for ALL stakeholders, which includes everyone from hunters to people whose cars gave been totaled from hitting a deer to PETA Karens whose pets get shredded by the larger predators... It’s the DNR’s responsibility to be the Grown-Up in the room...

JMO, Hunters’ interests would be better served lobbying for laws that require science-based management of natural resources and bulletproof the management against feelings-based legislation....

You can’t argue with people whose mental image of wolves includes puppy-dog eyes, so better to focus on things that make sense on principle instead of getting into emotionally charged crap...

From: Danbow
26-Feb-21
The Wolf Patrols website actually had apply for tags and they would cover cost of app fee and license! I get the volunteers needed but I suspect it's for their love of wolves not to promote hunting!

From: skookumjt
26-Feb-21
Straighten out some mis-information......

The estimate of 1100 everyone keeps quoting is the minimum population, not an estimate of total population. Estimates of total range from 1500 to well over 2000.

The harvest quota set by the DNR and NRB was 200. The tribes tried to interfere with the hunt by claiming their quota they were entitled to as part of their treaty rights, knowing full well they wouldn't harvest any of them. That left 119 quota for the rest of us. 215 wolves were killed in two and a half days, which is 8% over the harvest goal.

The DNR announced at 10 am the second day of the hunt that half the zones would be closing in 24 hours. At 3 pm the same day they announced the closure of the remaining zones.

86% were killed using hounds.

There is a reasonable chance that some of the reported harvests were phoned in by anti hunters that intended to make the hunt look unethical. If that happened it will be discovered because all pelts and carcasses have to be taken to a warden.

The fact that over 200 wolves were killed in 2.5 days with no advance preparation (tags were drawn the morning the hunt started) shows there are way too many wolves in our state.

Many of the harvests occurred in parts of the state nobody ever imagined would have wolves. We'll south of the range of the original timber wolves.

The wolves in WI are descendents of a different subspecies than wolves that were native before being exterpated.

Most of the wolves here now have mixed genetics from crossing with other canines.

From: Danbow
26-Feb-21
Skook do you know if when they called their kill in they had to give county, or township if take?

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