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Big Utah Shiras is official
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Contributors to this thread:
Straight Shooter 30-Mar-21
WV Mountaineer 30-Mar-21
Rickm 30-Mar-21
t-roy 30-Mar-21
Drnaln 30-Mar-21
GF 30-Mar-21
Shug 30-Mar-21
wildwilderness 30-Mar-21
Straight Shooter 31-Mar-21
GF 31-Mar-21
pav 31-Mar-21
DonVathome 31-Mar-21
orionsbrother 31-Mar-21
midwest 31-Mar-21
BULELK1 31-Mar-21
Dale06 31-Mar-21
Treeline 31-Mar-21
sticksender 31-Mar-21
wildwilderness 31-Mar-21
elkmtngear 31-Mar-21
Novembermadman 31-Mar-21
Rickm 31-Mar-21
Nick Muche 31-Mar-21
Rickm 31-Mar-21
GF 31-Mar-21
SteveB 31-Mar-21
KY EyeBow 31-Mar-21
ki-ke 31-Mar-21
BULELK1 01-Apr-21
njbuck 01-Apr-21
Rickm 01-Apr-21
Straight Shooter 01-Apr-21
Ermine 01-Apr-21
Rickm 01-Apr-21
Ermine 01-Apr-21
Straight Shooter 01-Apr-21
Ermine 01-Apr-21
Rickm 01-Apr-21
Paul@thefort 01-Apr-21
Straight Shooter 01-Apr-21
Jasper 01-Apr-21
Ermine 01-Apr-21
Rickm 01-Apr-21
elkmtngear 01-Apr-21
t-roy 01-Apr-21
pav 01-Apr-21
Rickm 02-Apr-21
Scar Finga 02-Apr-21
IdyllwildArcher 02-Apr-21
Rickm 02-Apr-21
Mathewsphone 05-Apr-21
Straight Shooter 17-Oct-21
Treeline 18-Oct-21
Bowboy 18-Oct-21
30-Mar-21

Straight Shooter's embedded Photo
Straight Shooter's embedded Photo
I had my UT moose officially measured last weekend. (Rick and I also had our AK moose from 2012 scored; both made P & Y). The final tally was 160 4/8, which makes him all time B & C. The all time record bow kill in UT was 167 something, until 2019 when a MONSTER was killed scoring 190 plus. Definitely one of the coolest adventures with amazing friends that all got to contribute and share the experience. DJ

30-Mar-21
Nice!!!!

From: Rickm
30-Mar-21
Gonna be hard to top that hunt! Congrats.

From: t-roy
30-Mar-21
Congrats on a dandy bull, DJ!

From: Drnaln
30-Mar-21
Congratulations on a great Shiras!

From: GF
30-Mar-21
That’s a gorgeous bull!

But I think I got a little bit lost in there somewhere… you’re saying that the B&C record bull is 30 inches smaller than the P&Y record?

There’s just so much about the scoring systems that makes ZERO sense to me… Like how can there be whitetails that score higher than a book-smashing Shiras??

From: Shug
30-Mar-21
Congratulations

30-Mar-21
He is saying to make a B&C “all time Award “level the minimum is 155” for a Shiras, not a “record” B&C Bull.

So the state record 190+ would be the largest killed in UT

31-Mar-21
GF, Wildwilderness has it correct. The 190+ bull killed by an archer in 2019 is the #1 bow kill in UT of all time. I'm not sure if he's #1 overall or not but what a beast.

DJ

From: GF
31-Mar-21
Thanks, guys… I will need a minute to puzzle that through, I think! I am utterly ignorant when it comes to the scoring systems and what these various “levels” mean…

Do you things I can tell you for sure, though… 1) that is one damn big moose and 2) it doesn’t look quite as big as the one that my brother and I saw when the bull in question appeared to be about 4 milliseconds from deciding to stop the snot out of my brother.

I’m sure it IS bigger, but under the circumstances....

From: pav
31-Mar-21
Beast of a Shiras bull! Congrats DJ!

From: DonVathome
31-Mar-21
Nice job! Did you tell the taxi to hurry up with my 2019 moose??? haha

31-Mar-21
Congrats! Beautiful!

From: midwest
31-Mar-21
Great bull....congrats!

From: BULELK1
31-Mar-21
You guys did Great!

Congrats again,

Robb

From: Dale06
31-Mar-21
Congrats on a great bull moose!

From: Treeline
31-Mar-21
Congratulations! Hell of a bull!

From: sticksender
31-Mar-21
Great scoring bull, congrats. Super tough & rare to take a Shiras that qualifies for B&C.

Did I miss a previous write-up on this hunt?

Edit: Ok I found it and yes I did miss it, congrats again....Big Utah Moose Down

31-Mar-21
GF- Where did you see that moose in question? FYI Shiras moose are the smallest of the moose subspecies, so a "Very Large Shiras" would be considered "Average" for an Alaska Moose. Here are the comparative minimum B&C "all time scores" to go in the book-

Shiras- 155" Canadian- 195" AK-Yukon- 224"

From: elkmtngear
31-Mar-21
Beautiful Shiras bull, looks amazingly symmetrical !

31-Mar-21
Beautiful bull.... and the best meat that you will ever eat! Congratulations...

From: Rickm
31-Mar-21
Dj, Post the score sheet and how about some video? I'm to stupid to do it!!

From: Nick Muche
31-Mar-21
Congrats DJ, and to you as well Rick on your entries!

Moose scoring is strange to me as well, pretty basic for such a large set of antlers.

From: Rickm
31-Mar-21
You need at least forked brows to get better paddle length then it is spread and number of points. Paddle width does not impact nearly as much as the 15-20 inches you lose if they are spike brows.

I don't necessarily agree but it is what it is.

From: GF
31-Mar-21
@WW - we were in North-Central CO, not too far from Jaq’s stomping grounds...

He was probably just a twink compared to the one at the top of the thread, but they all look a LOT bigger when they’re pissed off at you, personally, they’re just a few yards away, and they’re still deciding whether to kill you or not.....

Some days a .58 just doesn’t seem big enough....

From: SteveB
31-Mar-21
Congratulations !! One awesome experience and one awesome bull!

From: KY EyeBow
31-Mar-21
Great animal but sounds like an even better "experience". Congrats on both!!!

From: ki-ke
31-Mar-21
Great bull! Huge congrats!!

I'm going to go back and read the original write up

From: BULELK1
01-Apr-21
Looks like they are adding 1 more Non-Ressy tag in that unit Rick (2 tags 2021).

With any luck ya guys might be back this fall--------->

Good luck, Robb

From: njbuck
01-Apr-21
Awesome bull, congrats!

From: Rickm
01-Apr-21
Robb, I'm in but I'm not making plans yet:) you know the odds Dj beat to draw that tag but as you say, gotta believe!

01-Apr-21

Straight Shooter's embedded Photo
Straight Shooter's embedded Photo
Thanks guys I appreciate the kind words. Elkmtngear has a great eye, very symmetrical only 1 2/8 in total deductions. I had two sets of criteria for the hunt: 1) I wanted to hunt a bull that was over 40 inches wide and 2) the bull needed to at least have double brow tines on each side. We knew he was over 40" but couldn't believe he was over 50 when we measured back at camp. DJ

From: Ermine
01-Apr-21

Ermine's embedded Photo
Ermine's embedded Photo
Awesome way to go. great bull! Big moose are awesome. Here is a pic of my Colorado bull I arrowed couple years back. He officially scored 171” net

From: Rickm
01-Apr-21
Ermine,

That's a stud! Congrats.

How wide was he?

From: Ermine
01-Apr-21

Ermine's embedded Photo
Ermine's embedded Photo
He is 49”

01-Apr-21
Ermine,

He is a stud, do you know the age??

DJ

From: Ermine
01-Apr-21
According to parks and wildlife they said he was 4 years old??

From: Rickm
01-Apr-21
Should a gave him 2 more years ?? That's a Great bull!

From: Paul@thefort
01-Apr-21
Nicely done. On my Colorado bucket list for sure but with 50,000 applications and only 150 bull tags, the odds are slim to none even with max points.

01-Apr-21
Wow, mine came back at 9, crazy.

From: Jasper
01-Apr-21
That’s awesome! Congratulations

From: Ermine
01-Apr-21
Yea I don’t know if that is a legit age thou. Have a taxidermist down the road who killed a 155” B and C shiras few years back. Colorado aged his at 2 years old lol. So maybe these bulls are just born with horns. I don’t know? They do tooth aging. But not sure on accuracy or if maybe they are inputing the wrong numbers.

From: Rickm
01-Apr-21
Utah actually has the teeth aged. Not sure about other states?

From: elkmtngear
01-Apr-21
"Colorado aged his at 2 years old lol".

Hmmm...maybe the same folks aging moose, are the ones counting ballots... :^?

From: t-roy
01-Apr-21
elkmtngear........if that was the case, that bull should be 19 years old! ;-)

From: pav
01-Apr-21
Wyoming ages moose using teeth as well. Can't be trusted IMO. My bull was 38" wide. Would have been closer to 42" if not for a bent beam. Wyoming aged him at two years old. In their defense, I did break one tooth during extraction. May have affected the results?

From: Rickm
02-Apr-21
Moral of the Storey is if it's big its big. I don't care if it is 2 or 10 lol.

From: Scar Finga
02-Apr-21
Awesome bulls gents!

Congratulations!!!

02-Apr-21
" On my Colorado bucket list for sure but with 50,000 applications and only 150 bull tags, the odds are slim to none even with max points."

And this is the year that all the 3+0s pile on because of the change in submitting the tag price up front.

From: Rickm
02-Apr-21
The draw odds were ridiculously bad but lightening strikes every once in a while. As time passes it is surprising how many OIL tags get drawn by people I know.

From: Mathewsphone
05-Apr-21
Justin he's older than 4

17-Oct-21

Straight Shooter's Link

From: Treeline
18-Oct-21
Wow! What a spectacular bull! Congratulations!

From: Bowboy
18-Oct-21
What an awesome Shiras bull!

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