Mathews Inc.
The Kelly Harris Mineral Recipe
Whitetail Deer
Contributors to this thread:
kscowboy 15-May-21
Buffalo1 15-May-21
GLP 16-May-21
Shiloh 16-May-21
JL 16-May-21
KHNC 17-May-21
Shiloh 17-May-21
kscowboy 17-May-21
Stringwacker 17-May-21
KHNC 18-May-21
Scoot 18-May-21
JL 18-May-21
KHNC 25-May-21
Scoot 25-May-21
Buckeye 25-May-21
DanaC 25-May-21
KHNC 26-May-21
Scoot 26-May-21
Scoot 26-May-21
JL 26-May-21
Scoot 26-May-21
KHNC 28-May-21
JL 28-May-21
AccMan 29-May-21
JL 29-May-21
fuzzy 07-Jun-21
KHNC 10-Jun-21
JL 10-Jun-21
Cocoon Man 10-Jun-21
Jonezee 10-Jun-21
Jonezee 10-Jun-21
KHNC 10-Jun-21
t-roy 10-Jun-21
Russell 19-Jun-21
t-roy 19-Jun-21
Lone Wolf 25-Jun-21
kscowboy 29-Aug-21
KHNC 30-Aug-21
From: kscowboy
15-May-21
My dad and I just got back from the farm and put a couple of these out. We talked about Kelly and I told him about the knife and how Morgan was doing. I informed him when Kelly had his injury and he was in their prayers. It was such a sad deal for a guy that I knew but never met.

Kelly and I emailed back and forth on his mineral recipe. I shared trail cam pics and harvest pics. He was such a great addition to this board and what makes Bowsite special. I almost took a job in Ohio back in 2019 and would've reached out to him when I was contemplating the move.

I figured in honor of Kelly that I would post his recipe that we've been using in his words:

"I always buy 50 lbs bag of dicalcium phosphate, 50 lbs bag of trace mineral salt, bag of powdered molasses. I dig a 3 ft hole wide and about 18 inches deep. I chop up the dirt really good, shovel in the ingredients with dirt 1 shovel full at a time. I mix it up really good and keep doing it until the hole is filled back up.

There used to be a guy on here who was a biologist who went by Blue Buck. He told me that 98% of content for deer antler was calcium.

Apparently the dicalcium also really helps with lactation in hoofed animals.

We put them out and skipped putting them out for several years. We noticed big differences in rack size when we do put them out."

Be sure to use dicalcium and not monocalcium. We did this the first year and Kelly said to spend the time finding the dicalcium the next year, as there is a huge difference.

RIP Kelly, you are missed!

From: Buffalo1
15-May-21

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This is what you want for di-cal.

I would suggest adding 50# of white salt to the recipe.

Kelly was spot on with the ingredients.

From: GLP
16-May-21
Thanks for bring this back up! Kelly was a great guy. And good for bowsite.

From: Shiloh
16-May-21
I use dical, trace and stock salt. Never heard of the powdered molasses. I’ll have to see if I can find some

From: JL
16-May-21
I used a similar mix. I also added dollar store brown sugar and powdered apple flavored jello. If ya can't find that.....any berry flavored jello mix will work.

From: KHNC
17-May-21
I have not found anywhere in Western NC to get the Di-Cal. Any larger stores yall are finding it at?

From: Shiloh
17-May-21
I get mine at our local Co-Op. Not sure if tractor supply or anyone similar carries it

From: kscowboy
17-May-21
Kenny, you may have to hit the phones a little bit or have them do a special order. On our first round, the guy at the Co-Op knew what I was doing and said that the mono would be fine. Kelly was very clear that the Di-Cal was the way to go after I told him this comment. It's a lot of work to cut this major corner.

The brand I found and used this year was PCS 18.5%. A little research showed the following: PCS Phosphate Company Inc. Raleigh, NC. They could probably tell you a distributor in your area if you gave them a call.

From: Stringwacker
17-May-21
Purina Nutrebeef has a high content of Di-Cal.

From: KHNC
18-May-21
Kscowboy, I found the 18.5 at Southern States in Fletcher NC. Took finding a different employee to let me know they had it. I have already put out 160lbs of trophy rock 365 and 100lbs of trace minerals from Tractor Supply. Trying to decide if it will be worth it to buy this mixture and put out this year, or just get it and wait til next year.

From: Scoot
18-May-21
I have a question that is related enough to not start a new thread (I think) : I put out salt blocks and licks (trophy rock) and the deer almost never touch them. Would something like this mix get more activity than licks or salt blocks?

From: JL
18-May-21
IMO.....yes! Especially if you add the sugar and jello.

From: KHNC
25-May-21
Scoot, its possible your sites arent in locations that deer frequent already. I cant recall ever having trophy rock minerals out on a property that deer didnt hit them regularly. They definitely like that stuff a lot, whether it benefits them or not. I would look into changing locations for your mineral sites.

From: Scoot
25-May-21
Kenny, that makes sense and is a totally reasonable thought, but it's not the case. I had them on the edges of my food plot right along trails that are frequented pretty much daily (usually multiple times per day) by quite a few deer. I don't understand why they weren't touched, but the deer were definitely around them a lot.

From: Buckeye
25-May-21
Scoot, What time of year did you put out the trophy rock? In the winter they dont have as much interest in it as they may in spring/summer, as they are looking for mast . This has been my experience anyways.

From: DanaC
25-May-21
I've found mineral use varies with terrain. One area I hunt is rocky with poor soil and deer there will hit salt blocks all year. Another is good valley soil and they only hit it spring and summer. So, 'it depends'.

From: KHNC
26-May-21
I agree, spring and summer are the only times mine usually get hit hard. I was just assuming that was when they were put out.

From: Scoot
26-May-21
Yes I typically have put them out this time if year.

From: Scoot
26-May-21
For those using brown sugar, jello, and other sweeteners do you use that in place of the powdered molasses or in addition to it?

From: JL
26-May-21
^....if you're asking me....I never used the powdered molasses. Brown sugar, powdered sugar, jello, etc....I was getting that at the dollar store.

From: Scoot
26-May-21
Thanks JL. I'm asking anyone who has experience with this. I'll give some jello and brown sugar a try.

From: KHNC
28-May-21
Im trying powdered molasses for the first time this weekend. I got the ingredients for the mix mentioned here. Putting 150lbs in a new hole next to my buried water tank. Just seems like a great spot to start a new site. Even though i have the two others already.

From: JL
28-May-21
If ya get a good batch....you can smell it from downwind.

From: AccMan
29-May-21
I would think all the sweet additives would draw bears and coons.

From: JL
29-May-21
Where I was doing that...there were no bears and the coons wouldn't touch the mineral....too salty I guess. I did it a bit up in northern MI when ya could and never had a bear issue.

From: fuzzy
07-Jun-21
Thanks for posting this. I think about Kelly a lot.

From: KHNC
10-Jun-21
So I put out this mixture 10 days ago on my new property. Checked the camera yesterday. Literally the evening of the same day I put it out, I got video of a potentially nice buck hitting it. After that , several does and a couple of dink bucks were hitting it daily. This site is right beside my buried water tank near a bedding area. I have a stand on the edge of it as well. Looking like a good spot at this point.

From: JL
10-Jun-21
Good deal. Any pics?

From: Cocoon Man
10-Jun-21
Hey Scoot if your placing minerals in Minnesota you cannot put out anything that has any flavorings, food products etc. in it, trace mineral has a flavoring in it if I remember correctly so would also not be legal in Minnesota.

From: Jonezee
10-Jun-21

From: Jonezee
10-Jun-21

From: KHNC
10-Jun-21
JL "Good deal. Any pics?"

I have one of the video clips saved on my laptop. I have several pics posted recently already on my New farm post. Ill be posting more at some point for sure.

From: t-roy
10-Jun-21

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I’ve still got to get a couple of bags of loose mineral for the mix. Gonna give it a try to see if they’ll utilize it.

From: Russell
19-Jun-21

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Found granular molasses at the local farmers supply store $17

From: t-roy
19-Jun-21

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Got it all mixed up. Just need to get out and refreshen the sites.

I think I made enough for the next 13 years!

From: Lone Wolf
25-Jun-21
How often should you refresh a site?

From: kscowboy
29-Aug-21

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Went down to the farm today and there was all kinds of traffic through there. Unfortunately, the camera wasn’t working. I’ll have pics in a couple of weeks.

From: KHNC
30-Aug-21
The deer have pounded my spot since the first night after I mixed up and put out a couple months ago. I will be using this same combo next year as well.

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