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Contributors to this thread:
molsonarcher 25-Aug-21
BULELK1 26-Aug-21
Bowboy 26-Aug-21
Rgiesey 26-Aug-21
whipranger 26-Aug-21
Shug 26-Aug-21
wytex 26-Aug-21
BullBuster 26-Aug-21
molsonarcher 26-Aug-21
CatSlamfromNY 26-Aug-21
CatSlamfromNY 26-Aug-21
Kurt 26-Aug-21
BULELK1 27-Aug-21
Bowfinatic 27-Aug-21
molsonarcher 26-Dec-21
TREESTANDWOLF 26-Dec-21
yeager 26-Dec-21
BOWNBIRDHNTR 27-Dec-21
Hondo 28-Dec-21
BullBuster 28-Dec-21
Warbonnet 30-Dec-21
molsonarcher 30-Dec-21
Buffalo1 30-Dec-21
Shug 30-Dec-21
Shug 30-Dec-21
Hondo 30-Dec-21
t-roy 30-Dec-21
Warbonnet 31-Dec-21
MA-PAdeerslayer 31-Dec-21
wytex 31-Dec-21
molsonarcher 31-Dec-21
Oryx35 31-Dec-21
t-roy 31-Dec-21
molsonarcher 01-Jan-22
wytex 02-Jan-22
Chief 07-Jan-22
Novembermadman 07-Jan-22
From: molsonarcher
25-Aug-21
To all who have hunted and taken a lion, qualifying or not fro Pope and Young, what did your cat weigh?

I am asking since i may have an opportunity to hunt them in the near future, and would like to have an idea on size and weight. I know they will vary in skull size from one area to another, but am trying to get a ballpark idea.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, and if you dont wish to share on the open forum, pm’s are fine also.

From: BULELK1
26-Aug-21
Colorado, gutted in the field, weighed @ the Warden check in 157 lbs.

Skull final/dry measure just shy of 15.

I'll try and find a field pic to post.

Good luck, Robb

From: Bowboy
26-Aug-21
My WY cat weighed 180lbs ungutted. We weighed it on certified grain scale. Skull was measured just shy of 15.

From: Rgiesey
26-Aug-21
So sounds like we only shoot huge cats here on bowsite. Great trophies!

From: whipranger
26-Aug-21
147lbs-14 6/16 133lbs- 13 9/16 158lbs- 14 8/16 123lbs- 13 3/16 168lbs- 14 14/16 142lbs- 14 9/16 162lbs- 14 15/16 this one had a caved in cheek bone that was rubbing his jaw bone from a previous injury otherwise would’ve easily passed 15 In Colorado 90% of cats that weigh 130lbs will score 13 8/16 which used to be p&y min but I don’t know if that’s changed And females rarely exceed 110lbs but ones that big will have a track the same size as 130lb Tom. Another thing that affects weight is if they have a full belly which will add 15-25lbs. Cats that are 50-53” nose to base of tail are 125-145lbs And 53-55 are 145-160lbs 56-57 are 160-180lbs

From: Shug
26-Aug-21

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Shug's embedded Photo
181 1/2# on a certified scale… 14 12/16”

From: wytex
26-Aug-21
KOM and a cat, nice Shug!

From: BullBuster
26-Aug-21

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BullBuster's embedded Photo
90 pounder out of my back 40. Deer eating machine….WAS! See, bowsiters do shoot small ones.

From: molsonarcher
26-Aug-21
Great cats guys! Whip, those are great numbers and exactly what i was looking for. You dear sir are a cat killing machine!

Im hoping to do this trip once and get a good cat. I know a few people have had to make several trips to get a good one, and these kind of replise will help a bunch.

Thanks to all who posted, and keep them coming.

26-Aug-21
125lbs (empty stomach) Tom, Arizona dry ground, mid 13's skull.

26-Aug-21

CatSlamfromNY's embedded Photo
CatSlamfromNY's embedded Photo

From: Kurt
26-Aug-21
Colorado 14-1/16" Tom cougar that was 3.5 yrs old weighed 143#s (weighed by CO Div of Wildlife) with an empty stomach, not gutted.

Cat was ear tagged around Ten Sleep, WY in 1982. I shot it west of Golden, CO, in 1985. It had moved 357 air miles from where it was tagged, the furthest known dispersion for a cougar from where it was tagged at that time. Today via GPS collars they know they travel a lot further.

From: BULELK1
27-Aug-21

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He was # 6 in the LHS record book for quite a few years until all those 'uge Canadian Tom's started to dominate the record books

Yes, the ole round ball and patch .58 caliber muzzy-loader, 40-50 yard accuracy.

Good luck, Robb

27-Aug-21

Bowfinatic 's embedded Photo
Bowfinatic 's embedded Photo
Not certified weight the guide was guessing mid 150s Skull was just shy of 15

From: molsonarcher
26-Dec-21
TTT Bringing this back up. Planning to fly out Friday to start hunting Saturday!

Anyone else care to share insights?

Please and Thank you.

26-Dec-21

TREESTANDWOLF's embedded Photo
TREESTANDWOLF's embedded Photo
Unfortunately didn’t weigh but plan to measure the skull although no P&Y entry because the hounds had electronic collars.

Have a blast!

From: yeager
26-Dec-21
Nice cat Rich. You mentioned that you are going to have the skull measured, but will not enter it in P&Y because the dogs had electronic collars. You can still enter your cougar into the P&Y Records only if, as stated on the scoring form, “at no time from the beginning of the chase until the harvest of the animal were receivers used in the pursuit and harvest.”

From: BOWNBIRDHNTR
27-Dec-21

BOWNBIRDHNTR's embedded Photo
BOWNBIRDHNTR's embedded Photo
We didn't get to weigh him but our guess was 160-170 pounds. His skull measures 14 9/16". For reference I'm 6' tall and 225 pounds. Good luck on your hunt and keep us posted!

From: Hondo
28-Dec-21

Hondo 's embedded Photo
15/12/16.. 184
Hondo 's embedded Photo
15/12/16.. 184

From: BullBuster
28-Dec-21
My goodness Hondo. WTH! Beast!

From: Warbonnet
30-Dec-21
Awesome cats! I recently read that conservation scientists use Calvin Klein's "Obsession for Men" to attract big cats to their cameras for population studies, the scent in it that the cats like is called civetone.

From: molsonarcher
30-Dec-21
Thanks for the posts guys. Wherls up tomorrow am to start 1/1/22

From: Buffalo1
30-Dec-21
Best of luck to you- safe hunting !

From: Shug
30-Dec-21
Hondo you look like the guy from Matthew’s archery… Joel something

From: Shug
30-Dec-21
Dbl

From: Hondo
30-Dec-21
Yea caught the cat for Joel Maxfield in front rang Colorado

From: t-roy
30-Dec-21
Warbonnet…..I read somewhere that 60% of the time, it works every time….

From: Warbonnet
31-Dec-21
t-roy, I read my info on the the August page of the new Farmers Almanac calendar.

31-Dec-21
Hondo that’s a tank! Hell of a cat

From: wytex
31-Dec-21
Good luck and fresh snow for tracking pretty much in all the mountains. Tell your guides you want a P&Y and they will help you judge it, they should be able to judge them pretty well.

From: molsonarcher
31-Dec-21
Well the trip is over before it started Got to Denver and the rest of my flight is cancelled, cant get in until tomorrow evening Flying back home in a few hours Quota will be filled this weekend and closed Monday am

From: Oryx35
31-Dec-21
Well that's a bummer. Better luck next time.

From: t-roy
31-Dec-21
Sorry to hear that, Matt! Hopefully you get another chance to go very soon.

From: molsonarcher
01-Jan-22
Thanks t-Roy. Planning a next year trip now. Just got home, no luggage, and they don’t know where it is even. Wasn’t meant to be I suppose.

From: wytex
02-Jan-22
Curious where you were headed ? No rental cars or flights to smaller airports? Powder might keep some out of the mountains and the area still open first of the week.

From: Chief
07-Jan-22
To “CatslamfromNY”: Who’d you use in Arizona? Several years ago someone on here recommended an outfitter in Arizona that hunted dry ground on horseback, but for the life of me I can’t remember the guys name, & I’m nearing the point of looking for a hunt like that.

07-Jan-22
Arizona Ground Pounders do dry ground cat hunts Chief. I don't think it's by horseback tho.....

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