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Another new Covid strain in SA
For you guys and gals who are heading to South Africa, they just found another new strain of Covid specifically centered around Johannesburg. I've been to SA and came back sick. It took a long time to get back to normal, and I still have effects. Africa has a way to produce some really nasty bugs.
Be real careful, and wear your masks.
Yeah if I’m concerned about a disease half way around the world a mask isn’t mitigating that concern and putting me on that flight
The new variant will definitely be here soon, and the dems will love it. Covid is their alternate religion now, next to climate change. It's what put Brandon in the Oval Office. Midterms are looking disastrous for them.......they have to do SOMETHING! This, in addition to some national military clash somewhere in the world, might distract voters enough.....might help Brandon keep his Senate majority at least, and keep confirming radical judges and placing socialists in positions of power. And power is what it's all about.
Of course there’s another strain….
Yes, viruses mutate, dirty little bas*'s
They mutate more with leaky ineffective “vaccines”.
It's called "nu". Imagine that.....
I seen an interesting comment at the above link. Will this new strain become a crisis in the U.S. just before next year's elections? I'll piggy-back on that and question if some other new strain will "arrive" just before the 2024 elections?
In other news.....I go in tonight to get my flu shot and 3rd virus shot. Hopefully the combo doesn't knock me down. I was wanting to go hunting tomorrow. Was also concerned about another border closure....the north one that is.
I predicted the mega death variant would be discovered by December so the governments could continue to try to control population through more mandates.
Stock market already down because of it
We are going to go through the whole alphabet and then the Greek alphabet with variations of this thing. It’s here to stay in one form or another so might as well get busy living.
My dads oldest brother just passed away a week ago from this thing. I think he was in his early 80’s and not “vaccinated”
Market is all by design. It’s been going up like crazy and leveled off. You can’t make money in a sideways market so put some bad news out there tank it and start over. The rich control everything and all their is to do is play their game to make money.
Shawnnyboy, you're in good company ;-)
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste." Rahm Emanuel
At this point it's way too early to get unduly concerned over this new strain. What is known at this time is that there have been a number of mutations in the spike protein (the target antigen for all COVID vaccines); what is unknown is the extent of those mutations and what effect, if any they'll have on the effectiveness of the current vaccines.
I really dislike seeing speculation about immune system avoidance already given how little we know about the impact of the mutations on vaccine effectiveness; additionally, we don't know the full ramifications with regard to transmission enhancement and virulence either (some mutations that have already occurred with SARS-CoV-2 have produced variants with decreased to no pathogenicity).
There is solid evidence that this new strain developed in a chronically ill (with COVID-19) immunocompromised patient in South Africa (so this would technically be a South African variant or strain from the parent strain).
One thing I've felt (and posted about) early on was that we might reach a stage where a vaccine became a multivalent one (multiple strains), much as we have done with the Influenza vaccines. As we learn more through genome analysis of variants we can adapt vaccines to maintain effective immune responses in the vaccinated.
I'll keep an eye on this and post any relevant updates. Hope everyone had a great Thansgiving!
Get your shot. Wear a mask. Social distance. Stay home. Get on welfare. Be obedient. Obey the masters. Lose your job
FJB. LETS GO BRANDON!
F*ck every last one of them.
"This strain is not a SA strain. They are all China strains. "
Correct! Let's DO remember that!
A couple more variants that are exponentially more deadly and more spreadable will certainly help put an end to the misinformation/vaccine denial/covid conspiracies, albeit in a less than desirable way for all parties
The variants will Keep piling on until they achieve what they ultimately want. Amazing how the variants always pop up when people just get tired of the nonsense. Worldwide, unreported protests going on….and then….unleash the new variant. Scare the people.
Time for a new script.
Biden said he would end COVID, some really stupid voters believed him.
I cannot understand why the U.S. and the rest of the world have not imposed suffocating sanctions on China. The Chinese government has essentially declared war on the rest of the world. The first message that any leader with a set of balls should send to China is to pull out of the winter Olympics.
Stock market down over 1000 points today.
Stop all travel to and from SA. Now!
Brandon will not do it.
If you believe that we are almost done with this Covid, I bet we are not even half way there.
Lions, tigers and NU….oh my.
Viruses mutate to survive. As they do, they get weaker. I did lose taste and smell a couple of weeks ago. Maybe a finally came down with the super contagious and deadly virus, who knows….
Looks like the Prez has restricted travel to or from numerous SA countries.
Hey it's worth a try anything to ride Covid through the midterm elections.If we fall for it again we deserve the leaders we get.
Griff Jenkins was just saying when he was on the border of Panama and Columbia recently to report on the caravans, alot of SA's were in the caravans heading to the US. Oh by the way.....reports are Prez Biden is now considering restarting Prez Trump's remain in Mexico policy.
If anyone ever creates a virus vaccine they wold be wealthy beyond imagination, it does not exist.
If anyone ever creates a virus vaccine they wold be wealthy beyond imagination, it does not exist.
I just read a new story that said that the US will be restricting travel to 8 African countries. This sure screws up the hunts for those who have them booked. TMBB
"If anyone ever creates a virus vaccine they wold be wealthy beyond imagination, it does not exist."
The people pushing the current vaccine are getting wealthy beyond imagination. And it doesn't do anything they've promised us yet. Getting covid was a big nothing Burger for me. They can give my shot to Greta Thunberg!
Biden called Trump's covid travel ban xenophobic, islamophobic and fear-mongering.
Now he does his own. What a phony-ass, libtard, blithering old fool.
Agree Sundowner, hard to believe so many pukes voted for him, especially hunting pukes.
MAGAA. Make America Great Again…..Again!
Many experts will tell you we still have the variants of the Spanish flu bouncing around. It’s what viruses do, especially ones not contained to just humans. That’s why this vax won’t do what they are trying to sell us…“help us stop COVID”.
This stuff is insane. Arron Rogers not vaxed, gets covid.... misses one game, mandatory. Media goes ape chit crazy "He's not vaxed!" Packers and NFL knew it. He met everything they required of non-vaxed players.
Ben Roethlisberger, vaxed. Gets covid. Misses one game, mandatory. Crickets. Vaxed players getting it left and right. Crickets.
These media people are scum. When the reckoning comes..... they should be held as first to face it, tied to the stakes so they can neither run nor hide. Politicians have always been scum. Media were supposed to be watchdogs for the "people" ..... instead they are paid protection for the elitists and politicians.
Seeing a glimmer that those sleeping through all this are just starting to wake up and smell what the leftist/globalists are shoveling. When caught between scoundrels and cowards..... it's the cowards that "don't want to get involved" are easiest to change. As once involved they no longer fear as they are now not alone.... then the Scoundrels begin to fear because they know the ruse is over. Scoundrels just are what they are no matter what they say, as lying is one of their more powerful tactics..... they must be eliminated. Voted out/fired.
huh. new variant. Color me shocked........
Some docs believe the new variant is already here in the US. People have been in a big-arse hurry to resume non-essential travel, and this is the result. But the airlines and the jet-fuel industry are making money, so all is well, hey? Plan on Christmas closer to home.
36.3 million people have died from HIV since it's discovery, last year alone 1.5 million became infected with HIV and 680,000 dies from HIV. It is estimated that 1.8 billion people are infected with Tuberculosis. Last year alone 10 million people became infected with it and 1.5 million people died from TB. 2,8 million people die each year from Obesity. 1.5 million people die each year from Diabetes. 7 people died last year from playing Ping Pong. No one asks me is I am infected with HIV or TB, 2 of the most prolific killer in modern times, or asked me wear a mask, wear a condom, or practice social distancing. No one has shut any buffets, Krispy Kreme shops, or Dunkin Donuts either. And one has put any disclaimer on a Ping Pong table. Yet, we are led to believe that this manufactured SCAMdemic, which has a .097 death rate, is the end of all humanity. And look at the COVID death totals, only 6% died from COVID alone. The other 94% had 2.6, or between 2 and 3 severe, underlying conditions, including cancer patients in hospice. Wake up Sheeple, Lenin is entering YOUR home.
Were those ping pong deaths in the USA or China?
and it will mutate again, and again.
That is a fact and at least we can believe that.
Thank you TD. You are exactly right.
What we are witnessing is EXACTLY what corona viruses do. Mutate for survival while not killing off the host carriers, us.
Another cold strain people. Nothing more, nothing less. Time to get used to learning to live with it, including treating symptoms before it gets to the point of shoving an idiotic plastic tube down someone's windpipe.
mutated variants tend to be less fatal. it is how a virus evolves. Killing the host isn't good for propagation. So in a decade we will have less severe cases associated with the spike protein. THe first part of this post is from the Univ of Michigan head of immunology's blog.
I just read that this morning. The WHO skipped over the Greek letter Xi in naming the variant. Wouldn't want to offend the Chicoms supreme leader.
I would imagine that this shuts down all the outfitters and hunters going to SA for the foreseeable future. TMBB
I don’t think the ban is for US citizens coming back. Only foreign travel. Strangely, a year ago Biden said Travel bans from ZA was racist. Now it’s science
"...which has a .097 death rate..."
Where are you sourcing that statistic? That differs quite significantly from the 2.2% global case fatality rate and 1.6% US rate cited by Johns Hopkins.
Omicron is an anagram for Moronic.
So far this strain has been found in the Netherlands, Italy, Israel, Germany and South Africa. What country is next?
Why would there be reason to doubt that it is not already in the US ?
I'm calling bullshrimp! Everyones on to thier game by now....
The early news on this strain is it’s symptoms are very mild. Similar to a 1-2 day mild cold.
American citizens are NOT banned from traveling to South Africa or the other listed African countries. The new restrictions state that African citizens from those listed countries are restricted from coming here. The same requirements for US citizens in regard to getting a PCR test to travel to and re-enter the USA still apply. Nothing has changed for US citizens. There is absolutely no reason to change or cancel your safari plans at this time.
Were those ping pong deaths in the USA or China?
Confirmed cases as of 11/28/21 in Australia, Belgium, Botswana, Britain, Denmark, Germany, Hong Kong, Israel, Italy, the Netherlands, France, South Africa, and Canada.
Scotland, Japan & Portugal added 11/29/21
USA- California 12/1/21 (returned from RSA 11/22- tested positive 11/29) Minnesota 12/2/21 (subject had been in NYC at a convention)
Holy shit!!! Run!!
That’s all we can do. Shut it down. Let’s continue to repeat the same line of bullshit that hasn’t been working.
I think we should all walk around with IV drippers in our arms pumping the vaccine in 24/7
Clearly, it’s our only option. Just follow the science.
So when is the pathetic media and crybaby clown college of dems going to call biden every kind of "phobe" there is for shutting down travel from SA to the states and reinstating Trump's stay in Mexico policy?
Beware the Midterm Variant! Dems will do ANYTHING to hold onto power. Watch for a perfectly timed armed conflict over Ukraine or Taiwan.....or some other place not currently in the news. "Look over here, folks. Pay no attention to the dead voters, and boxes of ballots being located after midnight."
These are nails in the USA coffin......at least the USA most of us have known all our lives. The good, they die young. I guess that is true of nations as well.
Really hope that they open the borders soon. I have a hun ting trip in June next year!!!
My iv will have Ghostwood bourbon in it ;)
I was reading a business update report this morning. Here are 5 valid questions and the answers I think will provide direction for people's personal and business related lives in the coming days:
There are five questions that edgy investors now want answers to. There is a mad scramble to get immediate answers to the first three public health related issues:
1. Is the Omicron variant more transmissible? 2. Does the Omicron variant increase the risk of severe disease? 3. Does the Omicron reduce the efficacy of the current vaccines of the variant. 4. How will governments respond to the variant? 5. Will it be necessary for consumers adjust their behavior?
My guess is our only hope to beat this new strain and it's ugly stepsisters..... is national mail in ballots....... pick up a handful at the local wally world or costco, which will be a select few of the only stores not shut down...... enter as many times as you want!
Some ballots will be scratch'n win like lotto tickets... except for they will be scratch and sniff'r hair......
In Biden's speech today regarding the Omicron strain, he and Fauci both kept mispronouncing the name of it as om-knee-cron. A great confidence builder.
What is the point of travel restrictions when thousands are pouring over the southern border from most every nation on earth ? This omicron is already here. Brace yourself for another round of lockdowns before Christmas.
"There are five questions that edgy investors now want answers to."
1) yes, viruses like these do that. 2) no, viruses like these do that. The African expert said it's not as dangerous and they know more about it than fauxci. 3) irrelevant. 4) like a bunch of hand-wringers on doomsday. 5) nope, but the hand-wringers will say it should.
I know that I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this. But right now I think it's absolutely irresponsible to go to South Africa to hunt. I'm sure that guys like Ken Moody will disagree with me, but the likely hood that you bring the virus back with you is pretty high. That's how that first case in San Francisco happened.
Wife & and daughter are long time Nurses. They say lot's of vax persons coming in WITH Covid. Gov't tells US (Faucie in particular) a vaxed person will be LESS sick when they get it.. Why the Fk did we get vax anyway??? Is there real proof a vaxer is less sick than non vax currently? Yes, I have both & booster but have always been skeptical. We have 3 family members with Covid now. 1 is 16, 1 is 35 & one is early 40s.. One other, 50s had it earlier this year. So far, mild symtoms. I say, Covid is our new FLU... We know of 3 passing from (they say, Covid). All older AND HAD other underlying conditions (so, was Covid the real culprit?). I do think Covid is spread faster but then, when 1 in the family gets a cold, guess what, most of the time, we all get it, right...
Here’s what makes me laugh at the vaccine.
In the beginning, it was sold as a book of goods to get back to normal. It was to PREVENT THE VIRUS AND THE SPREAD. THATS WHAT WE WERE TOLD!!
fast forward to today, and all the pro Vaxers say….well it was meant so you don’t get as sick. And you can still spread it. Well, that isn’t what we were originally sold. So, the excuse has moved right along with the goal post. SURPRISE!!!
"I know that I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this. But right now I think it's absolutely irresponsible to go to South Africa to hunt. I'm sure that guys like Ken Moody will disagree with me, but the likely hood that you bring the virus back with you is pretty high. That's how that first case in San Francisco happened." TMBB
Why do you think you would get flamed for making a completely speculative, unsubstantiated statement like that? LMFAO!
With all the diseases you can get without the proper vaccination. Covid variations would be my least concern :)
Yeah. I’m guessing the reason it’s so divided is people feel just like Bob. Stay home. Save lives. Get the vaccine to save lives. Wear three masks to save lives. You need to do that for humanity. I’ll do the same. Then we can be miserable while we still give each other this crap.
I just lost a great friend to this. He was the last person you thought that would die from it. Great shape. 47 years old. Still competing on the Stihl timber sports tour. Just a physical specimen. Got diagnosed with Covid then pneumonia. He did great getting better as the week went on. Developed clots and was ventilated. Never woke up. So, my feelings aren’t coming from a one sided view.
Treatment protocols are killing people. The virus is killing people. Let’s all just lock up and give up. SMH. That’s responsible. Seems like had we approached this from the angle of truly treating it versus the political crap shoot we did, we’d be much farther along on truthful information. But, we are instead still speculating the effects and risks of Covid because we’ve allowed ourselves to be lied too.
Well there's a difference in saying "stay locked up" and intentionally going into a hot spot where you have a great chance of bringing home an infection to your family, friends and strangers in your life. TMBB
The Omicron Variant has been found in 38 countries, and according to the WHO, zero deaths reported from it.
There will always be a "variant". Life needs to go on.
Bob, don’t pretend it has anything to do with protecting anyone but yourself. That’s is what this is all about. Self preservation.
Pro Vaxers want everyone to take the shots. Regardless that it doesn’t protect the individual. It’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
Take the shot and the precautions for you. No one else. Because nothing anyone does is protecting another.
"Here’s what makes me laugh at the vaccine. In the beginning, it was sold as a book of goods to get back to normal. It was to PREVENT THE VIRUS AND THE SPREAD. THATS WHAT WE WERE TOLD!!
fast forward to today, and all the pro Vaxers say….well it was meant so you don’t get as sick. And you can still spread it. Well, that isn’t what we were originally sold. So, the excuse has moved right along with the goal post. SURPRISE!!!"
Let's be honest, no one is saying that - other than perhaps the anti-vax crowd whose agenda is advanced by introducing half-truths to mock the situation.
The vaccines did a great job at keeping people from getting the original strain, but the virus mutated and we started to see breakthrough cases with the Delta variant. While very unfortunate, it was also understandable - even predictable - given the nature of corona viruses. Even though the vaccinated can become infected (albeit at about 1/5th the rate of the unvaccinated), the vaccines still provide good protection from severe disease and death (~90% effective). The vaccinated are also less likely to spread the disease as they generally clear the virus faster than the unvaccinated.
Yes because it’s the vaccinated that are selfish and thinking of only themselves. SMH LMAO. You lost your grip with reality.
"Well there's a difference in saying "stay locked up" and intentionally going into a hot spot where you have a great chance of bringing home an infection to your family, friends and strangers in your life. TMBB"
Hotspot?? LMFAO..! 4 of the 8 African countries on the banned list have ZERO cases of the Omicron variant. Omicron already existed here in the USA and throughout Europe when Brandon instituted his travel ban.. Omicron is now in 38 countries and counting... Omicron will be sold as the new "threat" here in the USA at least until the mid-term elections (or until the newest variant is discovered)... This travel ban is just another politically motivated, virtue signaling gesture with no basis in regard to the "science".... Making the assertion that traveling to Africa poses too much risk in regard to contracting Covid is absurd.
It is strange how Brandon had no problem slapping sanctions on poor nations with little trading power or economic influence with zero “Science” to back it up.
But China still gets a complete pass. Not even so much as a scolding from Beijing Biden. He and his son make far too much from China to call them out.
Systemic racism at its best. Is Joe a racist xenophobe or just a greedy politician?
People getting vaxed arent selfish. People supporting the mandates and shutdowns are.
Exactly. Anyone who confuses that isn’t interested in anything but argument.