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Surprised there’s no talk about this 211
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Contributors to this thread:
Pat Lefemine 13-Jan-22
Grey Ghost 13-Jan-22
[email protected] 13-Jan-22
HUNT MAN 13-Jan-22
[email protected] 13-Jan-22
t-roy 13-Jan-22
No Mercy 13-Jan-22
redquebec 13-Jan-22
John in MO / KY 13-Jan-22
greg simon 13-Jan-22
Timbrhuntr 13-Jan-22
Timbrhuntr 13-Jan-22
stealthycat 13-Jan-22
ohiohunter 13-Jan-22
Mike Ukrainetz 13-Jan-22
Jaquomo 13-Jan-22
PECO2 13-Jan-22
LINK 13-Jan-22
Bigpizzaman 13-Jan-22
TREESTANDWOLF 13-Jan-22
buckeye 13-Jan-22
Quinn @work 13-Jan-22
Rut Nut 13-Jan-22
Pat Lefemine 13-Jan-22
12yards 13-Jan-22
Gunny 13-Jan-22
No Mercy 13-Jan-22
Live2Hunt 13-Jan-22
TwoThumbsUp 13-Jan-22
skull 13-Jan-22
Rut Nut 13-Jan-22
keepemsharp 13-Jan-22
APauls 13-Jan-22
drycreek 13-Jan-22
[email protected] 13-Jan-22
JL 13-Jan-22
tobywon 13-Jan-22
markr 13-Jan-22
midwest 13-Jan-22
badlander 13-Jan-22
maxracx 13-Jan-22
redquebec 13-Jan-22
Scrappy 13-Jan-22
midwest 13-Jan-22
goelk 13-Jan-22
scentman 13-Jan-22
goyt 13-Jan-22
Steve H. 13-Jan-22
scentman 13-Jan-22
Bou'bound 13-Jan-22
Bowfreak 13-Jan-22
BOHNTR 13-Jan-22
scentman 13-Jan-22
jjs 13-Jan-22
Ironbow 13-Jan-22
SB 13-Jan-22
Zim 13-Jan-22
MA-PAdeerslayer 13-Jan-22
Huntiam 13-Jan-22
Highlife 13-Jan-22
T Mac 13-Jan-22
EmbryOklahoma 13-Jan-22
Ironbow 13-Jan-22
TJS 13-Jan-22
Zim 13-Jan-22
RK 13-Jan-22
Drnaln 13-Jan-22
Zim 13-Jan-22
Jack Harris 13-Jan-22
Jack Harris 13-Jan-22
Steve H. 13-Jan-22
arlone 13-Jan-22
Zim 13-Jan-22
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Rocky D 14-Jan-22
Zim 14-Jan-22
Rocky D 14-Jan-22
Zim 14-Jan-22
Zim 14-Jan-22
Zim 14-Jan-22
Huntiam 14-Jan-22
Zim 14-Jan-22
Huntiam 14-Jan-22
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Zim 14-Jan-22
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Rocky D 14-Jan-22
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Rocky D 14-Jan-22
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JL 14-Jan-22
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Michael 14-Jan-22
Slate 14-Jan-22
Lee 14-Jan-22
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From: Pat Lefemine
13-Jan-22

Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Dustin Huff buck
Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Dustin Huff buck
I know it’s a crossbow kill, shot by Dustin Huff of Indiana in November.

The buck was officially scored at 211 1/2 and is the biggest buck shot in a decade.

Missed Hanson’s WR by just 2 1/8. Would have been a new WR in PY. And will be (after panel measurement) the all time #2.

Crazy!

From: Grey Ghost
13-Jan-22
We were too busy arguing about vaccines, Pat. ;-)

Matt

13-Jan-22
is that the one shot off the porch?

From: HUNT MAN
13-Jan-22
We don’t talk bowhunting here anymore . COVID and politics took over !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hunt

13-Jan-22
nevermind thats a different deer

From: t-roy
13-Jan-22
Any other pics of it? From that pic, I’m not seeing 211” gross, let alone net.

EDIT: pulled up some better pics, and the pic posted above does the deer no justice!

From: No Mercy
13-Jan-22

No Mercy's embedded Photo
No Mercy's embedded Photo
Amazing whitetail!

From: redquebec
13-Jan-22
That IS a spectacular buck, but I'm with T-Roy, I think I see 170ish inches of antlers. He's got great mass. I'd love to see some more pics that offer different views/perspectives.

BTW I'm not an official judge so my opinion is not an educated one. Great deer though!

13-Jan-22
Wow!

From: greg simon
13-Jan-22
6x6, tine length, main beam length, mass, spread. All of those in one rack. I see 211"

Awesome buck is an understatement!!!

From: Timbrhuntr
13-Jan-22
https://www.fieldandstream.com/hunting/dustin-huff-record-deer-scored/?fbclid=IwAR29mzLLmTBtiBjYzfEcuoggLmImvp2nRxKhQ9ybaTxJz7KEIG9djRSVx1M

From: Timbrhuntr
13-Jan-22
Droopy ears lol

From: stealthycat
13-Jan-22
the real question is how old is it :(

what a fantastic whitetail - once in a lifetime

From: ohiohunter
13-Jan-22
It’s a toad, gorgeous deer with very little deductions. I’m bitter sweet tho… the xrifle ya know, but amazing beast nonetheless. I guess it pales in comparison to the Hanson stories.

13-Jan-22
Fantastic deer! Congrats to the hunter!!

From: Jaquomo
13-Jan-22
How much did it weigh? That's the important thing. ;-)

From: PECO2
13-Jan-22
I don't care what it actually scores, or what anyone "sees" in the score. I would shoot it and be hystatic!

From: LINK
13-Jan-22
I see 40+ inches of mass 60” of beam length 20” spread and a crap ton of tine length. If you look at the buck and don’t see 200+ inches you need to get your eyes examined.

From: Bigpizzaman
13-Jan-22
Wow!

13-Jan-22
Incredible animal.

From: buckeye
13-Jan-22
Congrats to Dustin, that's an incredible buck.

From: Quinn @work
13-Jan-22
What a beautiful deer!

Jaq I'm pretty sure that Xbow weighs 13 pounds.

From: Rut Nut
13-Jan-22
Incredible buck!

But I thought crossbow kills were not eligible for P&Y?

From: Pat Lefemine
13-Jan-22
They aren’t

From: 12yards
13-Jan-22
Beast for sure.

From: Gunny
13-Jan-22
What a stud!

From: No Mercy
13-Jan-22
This is in Boone and Crockett, not Pope and Young FYI. #2 in the world overall-NOT archery.

From: Live2Hunt
13-Jan-22
One hell of a buck, yes, shot with a gun for Boone and Crockett.

From: TwoThumbsUp
13-Jan-22
I never imagined a day I'd be glad to see a crossbow kill on bowsite just because it's hunting related and not about covid or politics.

Congrats to the hunter.

From: skull
13-Jan-22
All over Facebook a while ago

13-Jan-22
Wow!! What a specimen.

From: Rut Nut
13-Jan-22
I LOVE to see big bucks...........................NO MATTER what they were taken with! ;-)

From: keepemsharp
13-Jan-22
He doesn't appear handicapped.

From: APauls
13-Jan-22
What an incredible deer. Just goes to prove: If you ain't first yer last.

From: drycreek
13-Jan-22
Helluva buck ! Hell, I’d run over that one in my F150 !

(If it didn’t ruin the meat) ;-)

13-Jan-22
Quite a deer. I'm no fan of crossbows during bow season so it is what it is. I'm sure that was pretty exciting.

From: JL
13-Jan-22
Congrats to the hunter on a nice kill regardless of weapon. :-)

From: tobywon
13-Jan-22
Beautiful deer, I agree that first picture didn't do that deer justice. That second photo shows how large that buck truly is. Great composed photo as well.

Forgive me, I don't know much on scoring and deductions, but how significant is that extra point on that bucks left brow tine to the net score? If it wasn't there, do you think it would have made a difference between the WR and #2? Not that it matters, just wondering.

From: markr
13-Jan-22
Forgive me but what state state?

From: midwest
13-Jan-22
holy freakin moly!

From: badlander
13-Jan-22
The world: Second highest scoring typical whitetail deer ever shot, found or hit by a car. Ever.

Bowsite peeps: “meh, I don’t see it.” Not impressed.

From: maxracx
13-Jan-22
WOW!!! No matter what weapon was use that is an incredible animal!!!

From: redquebec
13-Jan-22
Ok, now that I see the second picture, that's definitely 200 inches plus. The first pic was not as definitive. The second picture is jaw-dropping.

From: Scrappy
13-Jan-22
Wonder if the shooter realizes what he would have done if he would have used a bow.

From: midwest
13-Jan-22
"Wonder if the shooter realizes what he would have done if he would have used a bow."

Wounded or missed?

From: goelk
13-Jan-22
Beautiful Whitetail

From: scentman
13-Jan-22
I don't care what weapon Dustin used... Was he vaccinated? That is the question. ;0)

From: goyt
13-Jan-22
Nice! Thanks for posting.

From: Steve H.
13-Jan-22
I consider it equivalent of being poached. State sanctioned poaching. What a waste.

From: scentman
13-Jan-22
I am usually on the side of hunters choice when it comes to crossbows... but I must admit, last year a neighbor got a really decent 140" and that is a nice deer for WNY. Well I stopped to check it out... he shot with crossbow in a heated high rise 75 yds off a main rd... directly across from his driveway. Like I started, looking at that fine buck and listening to his story. I literally walked away shaking my head.

From: Bou'bound
13-Jan-22
Some of th3e comments above refute the philosophy that it is all about the animal. Taht animal is that animal regardless of if the projectile puncture his vitals was a bullet, a bolt, or an arrow.

If you’re talking about the weapon used that changes the hunting degree of difficulty challenge and that reflects accomplishment of the hunter who killed it and what they did or didn’t put into it

but if it’s about the animal and its rarity that has nothing to do with how it died ………that’s all about how it lived and what it became

From: Bowfreak
13-Jan-22
Agreed Bou, but some of them don't.

It's a an absolutely amazing animal, but it isn't an archery kill. Still an unbelievable feat to kill a deer like this, but it would be even greater if it was a bow kill.

From: BOHNTR
13-Jan-22
Once paneled, this buck will most likely be the world’s record for the new crossbow only record keeping organization (Bolt & Quarrel). It’s a tremendous whitetail.

From: scentman
13-Jan-22
Bou, if your on the up and up... sometimes it's hard to desern, I agree with your post. This past season a nice buck came to within 9 yds, I was holding a crossbow at the time... straight on brisket, I passed up on the opportunity. After careful consideration assessing the sequence of events, I was happy with my decision. I would have been more comfortable with myself if I shot that buck with my Ross compound. Ends up neighbor shot that same buck new year eve, hours within his brother passing away... im glad with my decision.

From: jjs
13-Jan-22
Pat, I use to get deleted off your site about the x-bow/gun use to be in the rules. What happen, the more it is shown on here the more acceptance it becomes. Sorry to see the standards drop and so has bow hunting but the bow sponsors are pushing them and help your bottom line, your house your standards. Nice buck too bad how it was killed.

From: Ironbow
13-Jan-22
Read that some local bow hunters were after this buck. Imagine hunting a world record that could have broken the longest standing P&Y world record going, the most hunted animal in North America. Wow. Incredible buck! Wish it would have been taken with a conventional bow!

From: SB
13-Jan-22
Too bad he was too crippled up to shoot it with a REAL archery tackle!.

From: Zim
13-Jan-22
I live in Indiana and personally don’t give a rip about this deer. It was taken via gun and on private land. I am a public land bowhunter and this state has non-existent trophy buck quality on our public due to a liberal 16 day peak rut firearm season. There are no quotas on neither gun hunter numbers nor xgun hunter numbers on public land. And ten years of xguns saturating the public has raped buck quality. I’m just not interested in anything to do with Indiana except turkey hunting, which is excellent due to conservative management. I refuse to waste a single day deer hunting on our public. My ruts are spent in Illinois & Iowa. And all forced down our throats by corrupt politicians bribed by Ravin, circumventing professional wildlife managers. What could possibly go wrong???

Congrats to the shooter and to those who are interested in this buck. But myself? I’m far more interested in my best ever year and the two bucks I will be entering in Pope & Young this weekend. The fact is this shooter will be entering zero (0).

13-Jan-22
Hahahah Midwest!! I was thinking the same thing lol

From: Huntiam
13-Jan-22
Now Why would you go and ruin this good Covid board with the posting of such a beautiful whitetail!!!

From: Highlife
13-Jan-22

From: T Mac
13-Jan-22
Beautiful deer congrats to Dustin

13-Jan-22
I am curious to how old the deer was… genuinely.

From: Ironbow
13-Jan-22
Zim,

If the buck quality in IN is so bad how did it grow this deer? Maybe it is on public ground, but something good happened at least once in your state.

From: TJS
13-Jan-22
I wonder how many hunters passed on this deer to allow it to get the size it is?

From: Zim
13-Jan-22
Ironbow, You need to clarify your comment. I think you meant to say “private”. I think I made myself quite clear. If you like looking at a gun kill, enjoy. I come to Bowsite because I’m an archer.

From: RK
13-Jan-22
awesome deer.

Priceless comment Midwest! Couple of guides and myself laughed at that one

Could you be more bitter Zim ? Good lord man get some help

From: Drnaln
13-Jan-22
"Could you be more bitter Zim ? Good lord man get some help"

Made me smile!

From: Zim
13-Jan-22
This buck is the poster child for corrupt crossgun politicians like Brent Steele, Johnny Nugent, Jim Lewis, Richard Young & Jerry Costello. Your self proclaimed 21st century “wildlife managers”. Not mine.

I’m not bitter about the buck. I just don’t care about it in the least. I am bitter about bribed criminals masquerading as deer managers. They are tools. In 2019 I was forced to move my family from Illinois due to corrupt politicians bankrupting the state finances. In 2020 I was forced to move my deer hunting from Indiana due to corrupt politicians bankrupting public land deer quality. Just so a handful of crooks can line their pockets with Ravin bribe money. Your dam right I’m bitter. I have a good right to be.

From: Jack Harris
13-Jan-22
Great buck but the comments are priceless!

From: Jack Harris
13-Jan-22

From: Steve H.
13-Jan-22
Every one of us should be bitter about every last crossgunned deer poached during archery season.

From: arlone
13-Jan-22
Just read about it and saw picture today in this week's "Outdoor News" and now here, he was/is a beauty!

From: Zim
13-Jan-22

Zim's embedded Photo
Zim's embedded Photo
Like your wildlife managed like this? Because that’s what this is all about.

Don’t forget these names: Brent Steele, Johnny Nugent, Jim Lewis, Richard Young & Jerry Costello. The money is gone. But their legacy remains.

From: RutnStrut
14-Jan-22
I'm not as anti crossbow as I used to be, but I don't love them. However, if using a crossbow made shooting deer like this as easy as some of you are inferring. Almost every damn one of you anti crossbow guys would be using one. Some of you make it sound like a crossbow hunter just has to show up with his/her crossbow. Then the world class buck of their choice falls over dead for trophy pics. There is still some hunting involved for most I'm sure. They probably even have to hunt as "hard" as some of us do on guided hunts with a vertical bow. Don't crucify me, I just like to play devil's advocate sometimes. No matter what it was killed with, it's one hell of a buck.

From: Rocky D
14-Jan-22
What a beast and to be killed legally and not hit by a automobile or poached means that people will be reminded this magnificent creature graced this planet with its presence!

Bottom line it was legally harvested and should be viewed as such!

Zim, you are showing your youth, ignorance, and arrogance by casting this animal in a negative light!

I remember the same disdain directed towards the compound bow and anyone that carried one into the woods! There are plenty of stick bow guys who are still bitter every time they see a trophy taken by a compound!

Yours are included in that group!

There are numerous people on this forum who would have transitioned from bow, muzzleloader, and gun season and would have not lost sight of its magnificence!

Again, we hunters are our worst enemy!

From: Zim
14-Jan-22
Rocky D, You are showing your youth, ignorance, and arrogance by casting bought and paid for legislators Brent Steele, Johnny Nugent, Jim Lewis, Richard Young & Jerry Costello in a positive light. Congratulations that you heartily approve of their method of “wildlife management”. Technically legal by their standards?…..yes. Ethical by anyone‘s standards???……HELL NO!!!

Now kindly stop putting words in my mouth. I simply stated the fact that I personally am not interested in this buck. If you revere it, knock yourself out. My criticism is over the corrupt politicians with no wildlife educations ruining my sport, not the deer nor the weapon used. They are the ones who changed the classification of crossgun to archery.

But how could I expect anything less from someone hailing from a state with a 3 freakin month long firearm season encompassing the entirety of three ruts and a 2 buck/12 deer bag limit! Good lord. No wonder I see so many Georgia plates in Illinois & Iowa every November. Certainly takes bad deer management to another stratosphere. Lol

From: Rocky D
14-Jan-22
Zim, I repeat, “Again, we hunters are our worst enemy!”

You refer to yourself as an archer. I have not ever claimed to be one. I am a hunter and I embrace all hunters and their success with only one stipulation that it be done in a legal manner!

I do know a few archers who have not been swayed by man’s trappings and modern conveniences!

There are a few on this forum who take stick and string with all its limitations and spend time, energy, and thousands of dollars on as equal footing as they can possibly muster and accept the fact that they may go home empty handed.

Imagine going to hunt a dall sheep with all of its expense for what many people consider a once in a lifetime animal with what most would consider a thirty yard weapon! As far as I am concerned they are the definition of archer!

Not to change the subject but yesterday at the age of 64 I bought my first fly rod!

Oh, the irony!

From: Zim
14-Jan-22
Rocky D, At 61, I think I’ve been around the block a few times as well. You post a lot of words, but zero of them address my only complaint! Regarding corrupt politicians making wildlife law. What up, bro?!

From: Zim
14-Jan-22

From: Zim
14-Jan-22

Zim's embedded Photo
Zim's embedded Photo
Rocky, Please tell me this is a typo in your Georgia hunting regs. A 3 month firearm deer season? Ya gots to be crappin me, right?

From: Huntiam
14-Jan-22
Zim Just cuz u can’t kill em don’t mean they ain’t there . Come to Virginia and try out some public if you wish, I bet within 3 days you would gladly go back to hunt Indiana public..

From: Zim
14-Jan-22
Huntiam, You need to read all the posts before spouting off. “Can’t kill ‘em”? WTF, I clearly stated I took two P&Y bucks this season alone. In fact I posted both on Bowsite previously. Look’em up. Yet another poster ignoring the white elephant in the room. Why not expound on the virtues of the fine legislators I listed??? Lol

From: Huntiam
14-Jan-22
Zim your words not mine “I refuse to waste a single day deer hunting on our public. My ruts are spent in Illinois & Iowa.” So u can’t kill em in Indiana right

From: tobywon
14-Jan-22
Man this thread went off the rails quickly, but I guess it’s not all that surprising giving most do lately. This thread was to show a magnificent buck, one many hunters would just love to see in the wild. Can some of you guys just appreciate that magnificent animal for what it is and put your agenda aside or maybe not comment at all? Start your own thread maybe. We know the guys that don’t like crossbows in the archery season or baiting or having deer scored or mechanical broad heads or whatever else, because the same guys repeatedly post on threads over and over to be heard every chance they can get. I don’t necessarily agree with these things but there is a time and place for everything. You sound like vegans, as they have to announce they don’t like meat every chance they can get. This thread truly shows how ugly and divided we are as sportsmen and unfortunately it will eventually be our demise.

From: Zim
14-Jan-22
Huntiam, Why on god’s green earth would I hunt Indiana if I got an IL LL??? Lol. That’s just plain stupid talk. I have absolutely no interest in deer hunting Indiana. If you love it so much, knock yourself out. Now the white elephant awaits you.

From: Huntiam
14-Jan-22
Cause theirs 211 and 1/2 inch typcials there

From: Zim
14-Jan-22
Ya WAS one. Taken with a gun. On private land.

What’s your point? That since Virginia public land sucks so bad it justifies other states to degrade their public buck quality by liberalizing management?

14-Jan-22

Altitude Sickness 's embedded Photo
Altitude Sickness 's embedded Photo

From: Rocky D
14-Jan-22
Zim, I repeat, “Again, we hunters are our worst enemy!”

You refer to yourself as an archer. I have not ever claimed to be one. I am a hunter and I embrace all hunters and their success with only one stipulation that it be done in a legal manner!

I do know a few archers who have not been swayed by man’s trappings and modern conveniences!

There are a few on this forum who take stick and string with all its limitations and spend time, energy, and thousands of dollars on as equal footing as they can possibly muster and accept the fact that they may go home empty handed.

Imagine going to hunt a dall sheep with all of its expense for what many people consider a once in a lifetime animal with what most would consider a thirty yard weapon! As far as I am concerned they are the definition of archer!

Not to change the subject but yesterday at the age of 64 I bought my first fly rod!

Oh, the irony!

From: Zim
14-Jan-22
Rocky D, the white elephant still awaits you.

From: Rocky D
14-Jan-22
Zim, My, “we hunters are our worst enemy!”

I have come to understand that some hunters use DIY and public land as a form virtue signaling or add to the degree of difficulty!

Don’t be hater of the long rifle season we bowhunters just Don required blaze orange and continue to march!

Maybe your Indiana gun hunters should complain that the bowhunters have to long of a season!

Bottom line is that very few states if any are meeting their overall harvest goals. This is why the liberal seasons and bag limits!

Hunters numbers are dwindling nationwide which means that our collective voice is being minimized which cannot to compete effectively against the anti hunting mob!

The last thing that we hunters need to do is minimize other hunters accomplish!

This is not “your sport”, it belongs to all of us and the last thing that we need to do is undermine hunting and hunters regardless of their method as long as it is a legal method!

Once we start start the virtue signaling it becomes a vicious cycle that we are seeing in America in many different areas!

https://www.outdoorlife.com/opinion/is-bow-hunting-unethical/

From: sticksender
14-Jan-22
Incredible, once-in-a-generation type of buck, regardless what weapon, state, season, etc. Of course it’d be cool if the guy had used regular archery gear, and the buck actually turned out to be a world record class for archery. But I’ll bet he’s quite happy with the buck he legally took. FWIW, we did discuss this buck a couple months back on the Bowsite main forum thread titled “Indiana State Record?”.

https://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforums/thread.cfm?threadid=494726&messages=41&forum=4

From: Zim
14-Jan-22
Rocky, Still not a word about greased politicians managing our deer. What up!? They got your approval?

From: 12yards
14-Jan-22
I hold little disdain for gun hunters or crossbow hunters although I don't really like that crossbows are creeping into archery seasons. Hunting to me is compound bow hunting. Kills with other weapons don't really excite me. It's not that I'm not impressed with the deer killed with these weapons, it's just that it doesn't interest me that much. Same with the Hansen buck. Incredible deer, but the kill doesn't excite me. I get more enjoyment with the annual whitetail meat pole on this site. I know I'm somewhat hypocritical because I use a compound. But that's just who I am/how my views have been formed. So this buck, while amazing, doesn't excite me as much as if it were killed with a vertical bow. I'm more impressed/interested in some of the guys' kills on here.

From: Rocky D
14-Jan-22
“ Rocky, Still not a word about greased politicians managing our deer. What up!? They got your approval?”

Zim, there is no win here and besides that it’s counterproductive to combat other hunters.

I’m out!

From: Grey Ghost
14-Jan-22
Pat, I see what you did here. Nicely played. ;-)

Matt

From: JL
14-Jan-22
IMO...the ultimate kills are the stick/recurve/string ones....I'm envious and salute those guys who have the skills to do that.

Compounds and crossbows are the same concept...no matter how ya lay it.....it's wheels, sights, triggers or usually releases. black powder would be the next in line, followed by pistol and then rifle. That said...I'm not a purist in a weapon-use sense....any legal kill is a good one in my book. I enjoy looking at pics/vids and reading the stories of a good hunt.

From: Rocky D
14-Jan-22
“ Rocky, Still not a word about greased politicians managing our deer. What up!? They got your approval?”

Zim, there is no win here and besides that it’s counterproductive to combat other hunters.

I’m out!

From: Michael
14-Jan-22
It has already been asked but I haven’t seen an answer.

Does anyone know how old the deer was?

I haven’t been around very many mature deer but it seems most trash up to much to break or get close to breaking the record.

From: Slate
14-Jan-22
He could be handicapped and have the Dave Easton disease. Nasty it is.

From: Lee
14-Jan-22
Awesome deer! I saw him on the internet back when The guy killed him and knew he was going to score well but I didn’t know he’d be that big -pretty amazing!

14-Jan-22
Folks moan if you don’t shoot a mature one, moan if you shoot a mature one with anything other than?

Nice deer, a no hesitator.

From: Bou'bound
14-Jan-22
This site is great

From: Venom16730
14-Jan-22
This place is getting like Archery Talk .

From: RK
14-Jan-22
Yep. SOLID proof. ZIM is f-ing Nuts. Moved his family due to deer hunting issues. OMG

I beg anyone out there to top that one !!

From: Zim
15-Jan-22

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Zim's embedded Photo
Elfin Magic, Being from Texas, the land of leases, you don’t even belong in this thread. There is no public land there for legislators to exploit. The Midwest xgun issues here are beyond your comprehension level. I suggest you crawl back in your tree and get packin Fudge Stripes. They are running very low at Kroger.

From: Slate
15-Jan-22
Zim crossbows are taking over the market just like compound bows did at one time. Maybe for once the politicians listened to the people. At 61 you don’t have much more time before you join the enemy so stop the crying. LOL

From: Rocky D
15-Jan-22
I think that it’s rather amazing that your top end world class booner type of bucks are very clean symmetrical racks without a lot of deductions.

It seems to be almost an impossible task for a rack to score as a typical without undermining its own score with a lot of deductions.

The deductions are just to big of an obstacle to overcome.

I would think that infers that somewhere around 200 inches a lot of bucks transition to the non typical category in the book.

From: Rocky D
15-Jan-22

From: Zim
15-Jan-22
Lol, no symmetry in mine. Will find out score in about two hours here. Got an 11:00 appointment with our local P&Y scorer. With 20”+ of extras he’ll definitely be entered as non-typical. I expect that will prevent him from making B&C though.

From: Zim
15-Jan-22
Slate, Get real. You should know by now politicians don’t listen to anyone except which ever lobbyist stuffs the most coin in their pocket. Of the five godfathers of crossguns in Indiana & Illinois, not a single one had a day of wildlife management nor biology in their educations. Two have only high school educations, and one even has a drunk driving conviction! That’s who manages our deer herds here. It’s no secret. Look it up. It’s all available online. Nice, huh?

From: Zim
15-Jan-22

Zim's embedded Photo
Zim's embedded Photo

From: Rocky D
15-Jan-22
Zim, wasn’t thinking of your deer. I was presenting two points in reference to the the buck that this thread is about.

This is somewhat like how you view the crossbow buck that the thread is about is a personal threat!

First point was that the deer that score near the top end of the typical category consistently do not have a lot of deductions.

The other point was, if that is true then you could conclude that would be the point of departure from where a lot of big deer transition from the typical category to the non typical category.

If your buck scored close to that threshold then I would contend that that would be an example of the latter.

From: Slate
15-Jan-22
Zim someone is electing these scumbags into office.

From: Pat Lefemine
15-Jan-22
Age is the issue not score with bucks growing abnormal points. And it's not that they become nontypicals, it's more that the older a buck gets, the more the opportunity to grow trash is present. The Hanson buck was only 4.5. This buck looks older than that so in some ways, this buck may be a better specimen?

Regardless, any buck over 200 net is an incredible deer. As Charlie Rehor puts it, a 200 inch buck is like a 7 foot human. Extremely rare. If anyone can get their hands on this bucks' official score sheet I'd love to see it. I imagine that kicker on his left G1 may be the reason it's not the new #1.

From: Zim
15-Jan-22
Mine will be close. I think.

From: Rocky D
15-Jan-22
Zim, wasn’t thinking of your deer. I was presenting two points in reference to the the buck that this thread is about.

This is somewhat like how you view the crossbow buck that the thread is about is a personal threat!

First point was that the deer that score near the top end of the typical category consistently do not have a lot of deductions.

The other point was, if that is true then you could conclude that would be the point of departure from where a lot of big deer transition from the typical category to the non typical category.

If your buck scored close to that threshold then I would contend that that would be an example of the latter.

From: Rocky D
15-Jan-22
Pat, I would agree with age but I am saying that once a buck gets to around 200 inches if he produces another 15 -20 inches that more than likely the buck will be non typical based on the limited number of deer that score above 200 inches in the typical category.

From: Zim
15-Jan-22
Rocky, That’s why I didn’t post a photo of mine. Mine is a more common example of a typical transitioning into NT due to years of age.

From: Zim
15-Jan-22
IIll not likely shoot another this size in my life.

From: Rocky D
15-Jan-22
If I am not mistaking we are really only talking a very limited number.

I don’t have the current data but I’m thinking that there is only around twenty to twenty five bucks that core over 200.

I would really need the new Boone & Crockett data to further develop this hypothesis.

From: Zim
15-Jan-22
Mine did not quite make that upper tier level but did officially make both P&Y and B&C at 185 5/8” today.

From: Rocky D
15-Jan-22
Today there are twenty some typical whitetails that score over 200 inches. In the 1981 edition of Boone & Crockett there are 172 non typicals that score between 200 to 220!

Even though there are far less non typicals taken annually than typicals there are nine times more non typicals in that edition scoring in that variance.

From: Bghunter00
15-Jan-22
Does he at least get credit for NOT having a trail cam photo of it?

From: Bou'bound
15-Jan-22
“what a fantastic whitetail - once in a lifetime”

No way. We all have ish we got that one in our lifetime

That’s about a once in 20 million hunters lifetimes buck.

From: Zbone
15-Jan-22
Absolutely magnificent animal...

Indiana will be the next whitetail hotspot...8^)

From: Zbone
16-Jan-22
Was just looking at the map, heck that buck was shot around 20 miles from Cincinnati, heck, its an Ohio buck...8^)))

From: Huntiam
28-Jan-22
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=062QipEtjA4

Link and a story on the buck and 2 guys that was chasing him..he was documented going over 8 miles

28-Jan-22
Congrats to the hunter, yes a deer of many lifetimes, shot legally in fair chase ,what’s not to like , congrats again.

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