Bears-Glock 20 vs Springfield XDM Elite
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Contributors to this thread:
Bowfreak 14-Jan-22
Mike Turner 14-Jan-22
trublucolo 14-Jan-22
redquebec 14-Jan-22
bigeasygator 14-Jan-22
Thisismyhandle 14-Jan-22
[email protected] 14-Jan-22
Bowfreak 14-Jan-22
Stix 14-Jan-22
Bowfreak 14-Jan-22
Thisismyhandle 14-Jan-22
[email protected] 14-Jan-22
spike78 14-Jan-22
yooper89 14-Jan-22
bigeasygator 14-Jan-22
ohiohunter 14-Jan-22
Jeff.Thomp 14-Jan-22
RK 14-Jan-22
Thornton 14-Jan-22
c5ken 15-Jan-22
Bowfreak 15-Jan-22
Grey Ghost 15-Jan-22
Old School 15-Jan-22
TD 15-Jan-22
bigeasygator 15-Jan-22
trublucolo 15-Jan-22
bigeasygator 15-Jan-22
trublucolo 15-Jan-22
strin 15-Jan-22
spike78 15-Jan-22
Coondog 16-Jan-22
Gator 16-Jan-22
jjs 16-Jan-22
Gator 16-Jan-22
From: Bowfreak
14-Jan-22
The Springfield has my attention. It is 27 oz. And looks like a nice alternative to the different Glock models. Does anyone have any experience with this handgun?

From: Mike Turner
14-Jan-22
Nice looking handgun there, Id love to test fire it! Loaded Glock 20 is nearly 40 ozs, XDM is looks like 27 as stated!

From: trublucolo
14-Jan-22
I've handled and shot both Glocks and Springfield XD's of various models and calibers. You can't go wrong with the Springfields in my opinion. I like the heaviness of the Glocks in some instances (range shooting), but not when I'm carrying all day in addition to being loaded down when hunting, fishing, hiking etc..

From: redquebec
14-Jan-22
It's my go to gun!! But my assessment isn't a complete comparison since I do not have much experience with the glock 20. Springfield makes a good product. I have several and they are stand out shooters. Get one, you'll love it.

From: bigeasygator
14-Jan-22
There are times I want a compact pistol and times I want a full size one. When it comes to bear protection, I’ll stick with the full size. More stopping power, more capacity, and a less recoil/muzzle rise. Plus, for multiple reasons, I prefer Glock to Springfields.

14-Jan-22
Smith and Wesson offers the M&P in 10mm now. That should be on your list.

14-Jan-22
They have a 15rd mag for it. I like the XD line. I'm a big revolver round guy for big bear country. But for black bear and 2 legged bears it might be a good fit.

From: Bowfreak
14-Jan-22
Didn't realize S&W made one now. Love my Shield for EDC.

From: Stix
14-Jan-22
Is this for Grizzlies? Don't see a need for black bears.

Bear spray much more effective for grizz anyway.

From: Bowfreak
14-Jan-22
Stix,

You say that as if it is settled. Far from settled with regard to hanguns vs spray for grizzly.

14-Jan-22
Bowfreak, they dropped it just a few months ago. I was looking at a XD only because S&W wasn’t offering a 10mm.

14-Jan-22
Spray is effective but it gets windy on Kodiak

From: spike78
14-Jan-22
Well for once I agree with BEG!

From: yooper89
14-Jan-22
Love my glock 20 but have not had to use it on a bear

From: bigeasygator
14-Jan-22
Hang out with me on the non-political threads, spike! I bet we’ve got more in common than not!

From: ohiohunter
14-Jan-22
Coming out of the holster I have a high hard grip, glocks eat my hand meat up… but I have not shot a gen5 with different back straps. My Springfield shoots great and doesn’t bite. I do believe the bore axis is slightly higher on the Springfield. I don’t think you can go wrong with either unless you have a problem like I do. I haven’t had any malfunctions with either.

If you’re looking for an excuse to buy a 10mm by all means go for it, but a 40 or even 9 with hard cast will be effective. When I was researching more bears have been killed with 9mm than any other cal… however I did not find the stat of how many 9mm didn’t kill the bear.

From: Jeff.Thomp
14-Jan-22
I haven't played with the Springfield but I love my Glock 20 sf for a bear carry gun. Its hands down the most accurate pistol I own!

From: RK
14-Jan-22
The Springfields are awesome

I own 12 glocks and 4 Springfield’s and wish it was the other way.

They are both great handguns but at this point I would go with the Springfield

From: Thornton
14-Jan-22
I still remember when Springfield started importing what would later become the XD series from Croatia back in the early 2000's. I immediately noted it to be more accurate, and superior in function to the Glock. My first one wasn't even stamped Springfield yet, and it was only $300

15-Jan-22
I have many Models, calibers and Brands and the XDM is one of my favorites for target and it is what I used for 3 gun shoots. Great gun for the money

15-Jan-22
For the OP. I should have added that one of the many brands I have is Glock, in different generations and calibers.

From: c5ken
15-Jan-22
Have several Glocks. Every time I pull the trigger they go BANG. Several thousand rounds & not one malfunction!

15-Jan-22
I love my Glocks too. But when the XDM came out. It had custom type features that others didn’t add till years later. And usually at a higher cost

From: Bowfreak
15-Jan-22
Altitude Sickness,

You have the 10mm? What ammo have you ran through it?

15-Jan-22
Sorry, I do not.

I was speaking for the platform not the Caliber.

From: Grey Ghost
15-Jan-22

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I have Glocks too, but I'm old school and prefer the simplicity of a double action revolver that packs a punch. Not the lightest to carry, though.

Matt

From: Old School
15-Jan-22
I think it comes down to what fits you the best and what you shoot the best. I’ve got a Glock and an XD. I prefer the XD and it’s not even close. Also have a S&W 629 classic - just wouldn’t want to lug it around on an archery elk hunt.

From: TD
15-Jan-22
What would be the recoil in that XD? I don't have a glock 20 but have shot one, that 10mm has some pop. I do own a 19 and the 20 had seriously more kick to it, especially with the hotter loads, that made more difference than I thought it would. Can't imagine shooting a lighter 10 for fun and practice. But you're right, the trade off is weight you're carrying all day. If you can handle it and get a bunch of good practice with it... likely be worth it. The idea is you only have to use it when you need it. And honestly don't need all that much practice if you're stickin' it down his throat... =D

Have you looked at the Glock 29? That would be a closer comparison weight/size wise? 32 oz I think with 10 round mag. (been looking....)

From: bigeasygator
15-Jan-22

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This thread needed more photos. By G20 bear gun. I run it off a chest holster (either Blackpoint Tactical or a Razco run off my bino harness). Run in that fashion, I don’t even notice the weight.

From: trublucolo
15-Jan-22
Nice setup BEG, what’s the lower one out of curiosity?

From: bigeasygator
15-Jan-22

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It’s the gun that’s been serving as my daily carry as of late. Glock 43X milled for a Holosun 407K.

From: trublucolo
15-Jan-22
Nice.

From: strin
15-Jan-22
New full size CZ .45 with 13rd mag. Really nice rig. Better than any glock ever made. Just shot it. First one in my area shops. What a rig!

Strin

From: spike78
15-Jan-22
Nice gun porn their BEG!

From: Coondog
16-Jan-22
If you’re looking for something light, the XDM is a better choice. Other than that, the Glock 20 is the way to go for a bear pistol. Higher capacity, less recoil, and more accurate. For a gun that is going to get beat up in the backcountry, I would only trust a Glock. They are made to last and are very very very reliable. My Glock 20 is my favorite pistol to shoot… only problem is 10mm ammo is hard to get and it’s wicked expensive because of that.

From: Gator
16-Jan-22
My XDM 10 with Underwood ammo has served me well at the range and in the field. Three years, lots of rounds and zero issues. We all like what we have money in.....usually.

From: jjs
16-Jan-22
Grey Ghost x2, lived in Ak and the simplest is the best.

From: Gator
16-Jan-22
My XDM 10 with Underwood ammo has served me well at the range and in the field. Three years, lots of rounds and zero issues. We all like what we have money in.....usually.

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