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WY draw # Apps
Elk
Contributors to this thread:
Elk369 04-Feb-22
Bob H in NH 04-Feb-22
PushCoArcher 04-Feb-22
Straight Shooter 04-Feb-22
Pop-r 05-Feb-22
sticksender 05-Feb-22
midwest 05-Feb-22
MQQSE 05-Feb-22
Straight Shooter 05-Feb-22
PushCoArcher 05-Feb-22
WapitiBob 05-Feb-22
Scott/IL 05-Feb-22
Pop-r 06-Feb-22
midwest 06-Feb-22
Mule Power 06-Feb-22
KB 06-Feb-22
ryanrc 06-Feb-22
Straight Shooter 06-Feb-22
PushCoArcher 06-Feb-22
Pop-r 06-Feb-22
JTreeman 06-Feb-22
cnelk 06-Feb-22
PushCoArcher 06-Feb-22
Brotsky 07-Feb-22
Lost Arra 07-Feb-22
Blood 07-Feb-22
Straight Shooter 07-Feb-22
Blood 07-Feb-22
Straight Shooter 07-Feb-22
Mule Power 10-Feb-22
Straight Shooter 10-Feb-22
PushCoArcher 10-Feb-22
PREZ 11-Feb-22
Pop-r 11-Feb-22
Jethro 11-Feb-22
Z Barebow 11-Feb-22
Grasshopper 11-Feb-22
PushCoArcher 11-Feb-22
KB 18-May-22
Zim 18-May-22
HUNT MAN 18-May-22
Mule Power 18-May-22
KB 19-May-22
From: Elk369
04-Feb-22
Any word on if app numbers increased or decreased?

From: Bob H in NH
04-Feb-22
Not set yet

From: PushCoArcher
04-Feb-22
Does anyone really think they're going to decrease?

04-Feb-22
You think they have # of apps after 4 days? I mean they’ve pushed notification of tags until June. I’m sure the #’s are high.

From: Pop-r
05-Feb-22
They definitely have the # of apps after 4 days.

From: sticksender
05-Feb-22

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I'd be curious too.

Good chance of apps increasing. At least you might think that from looking at the trend in NR points in recent years.

From: midwest
05-Feb-22
apply, apply, apply!

From: MQQSE
05-Feb-22
I think with all the talk about possible changes to the future percentages of NR tag allocations, that more people are trying to dump their points.

05-Feb-22
Pop-r, Having the # of apps and posting them are two completely different things.

From: PushCoArcher
05-Feb-22
They have the number now when will it be published I don't know. Maybe they'll wait till after the modify/withdrawal date as that will effect the final number.

From: WapitiBob
05-Feb-22
Elk apps have never decreased in WY. ever

And less than half of the people with points even apply. They're invisible to the odds reports.

From: Scott/IL
05-Feb-22
We’re in with 3 for a general tag in the Special draw. Hopefully it’s still enough and the people dumping points don’t push us out of the mix with creep.

From: Pop-r
06-Feb-22
Yes sir, having them & posting them is two different things. I just know they have them.

From: midwest
06-Feb-22
To think I used to draw Wyo Gen tag as a 2nd choice in the special not too long ago!

From: Mule Power
06-Feb-22
Knowing how many point holders there are is irrelevant. I don’t know what half of those guys are waiting for but it’s not a general license I know that. When I have a point I’m like a kid in a candy store with a dollar in his hand.

Going into the special with a 3.4 average. As usual I’ll be curious to see what it takes in the regular and special to have 100% odds. Will 3 make the cut in special? We’ll find out…. in half a year! Ugh

From: KB
06-Feb-22
The amount of folks in the 1, 2, and 3 pools has more than doubled in just four years. Roughly 46,000 going into ‘18 to over 94,000 this year. I think point creep “awareness” is higher than ever with all the hand holding sites and YouTubers telling everyone they’ll never draw a primo tag and it’ll be decades before they chase down the mediocre units. I’ll be very surprised if a Regular general isn’t pushing double digits by the end of the decade.

From: ryanrc
06-Feb-22
I put in for a general tag with 4 points in the general pool. I assumed that was a guarantee. Shouldn't I draw with 4?

06-Feb-22
ryanrc, you should draw with 4 but like WapitiBob said there are way more people with points that don’t factor in every year.

From: PushCoArcher
06-Feb-22
I think 4 points will be about 50% odds in the general regular draw this year. I applied for the general with 6 points. With all the talk of reducing quotas and a price hike I believe point creep will be pretty high this year.

From: Pop-r
06-Feb-22
Hopefully & I do figure a few of them are dead bob! No disrespect intended.

From: JTreeman
06-Feb-22
I didn’t apply this year, so expect some really nice thank you gifts from some of you guys.

—jim

From: cnelk
06-Feb-22
4 PPs for a glorified OTC tag. Damn

From: PushCoArcher
06-Feb-22
Better then any OTC tag in Colorado.

From: Brotsky
07-Feb-22
I burned my 5 this year. Going to be an awesome hunt, should be twice as many grizz this year!

From: Lost Arra
07-Feb-22
My understanding of the move to 90/10 for LE tags would result in more General tags for non-residents to get the total number up to 7250.

From: Blood
07-Feb-22
We have 3.3333333 (6, 3 and 1) points and applied in the general. I’m keeping my fingers crossed.

07-Feb-22
Blood- should have kicked out the “1”, would have been going in with 5.

From: Blood
07-Feb-22
Lol. The 1 is someone I’m trying to help draw a tag with my 6 points. And 6+3 is 9. Dived by 2 = 4.5. Yes. Better chance, but I’ve got a really special trip if we draw. Maybe 2022 will be special.

07-Feb-22
Blood- should have kicked out the “1”, would have been going in with 5.

From: Mule Power
10-Feb-22
“Applied in the general” That’s not saying much. The question is Regular General or Special General?

50% odds with 4 points? The sky is falling but not quite that fast!

10-Feb-22
Man my math skills suck, good luck hope you draw. I’m in with 10 but have no chance of drawing my unit unless I get the random.

From: PushCoArcher
10-Feb-22
Mule Power if I'm reading it right in the 2020 general regular draw 3 points was a 58% chance 2021 3.5 was 41%. If the trend continues 4 points will probably be lower then 50% for 2022.

From: PREZ
11-Feb-22
I jumped in GEN with 7 points... tired of waiting for years for a good unit. I'm going elk hunting.

From: Pop-r
11-Feb-22
Dang Prez. What a waste!

From: Jethro
11-Feb-22
"Mule Power if I'm reading it right in the 2020 general regular draw 3 points was a 58% chance 2021 3.5 was 41%. If the trend continues 4 points will probably be lower then 50% for 2022."

You're not reading that right. 3 pts was 100% in 2020 and 42% in 2021. Reg Gen.

From: Z Barebow
11-Feb-22
I chuckle when folks look at last years stats and state “I should be a lock w/x points “. Understand stats are only a historical reference point. For 2022, that reference point will move. And not for the better. How far will it move? More than a point? Full point? Fraction of a point?

We will find out when 2022 stats are published.

From: Grasshopper
11-Feb-22
I'm in for unit 7 with zero points, using the power of prayer this year, nothing works better.

From: PushCoArcher
11-Feb-22
Jethro you are right was reading the draw report wrong. So 4 should be a lock emphasis on should.

From: KB
18-May-22
In the words of Eric Church… “creepin”.

From: Zim
18-May-22
“I think with all the talk about possible changes to the future percentages of NR tag allocations, that more people are trying to dump their points.”

Adam, Yup I’m definitely in this category. A buddy split his 8 points with his son in Denver this year for gen elk. And I’ll split my 8 with him next year and get off the point chasing hamster wheel. Will ride general elk bandwagon going forward from there to minimize getting burned by yet another point devaluing system “change”. Not interested in wasting 5 years chasing 38-9 only to have rug pulled out yet again. What a racket.

From: HUNT MAN
18-May-22

From: Mule Power
18-May-22
You’re a man of many words Hunt…

From: KB
19-May-22
Good luck on your plan Zim. Splitting 8 in half might be a long shot in the regular pool next year. And that “general elk bandwagon” is getting pretty loaded. Could wind up in the same boat you are now with 38-9.

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