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05-Mar-22
With the talk of gas prices possibly hitting $7/gallon this summer, how many people will back out of out of state hunting trips? If the points I have are on the bubble for a better unit, do you think it might be worth the gamble to put in for a better unit this fall with the thought fewer people may hold on the out of state hunt to save some money?

From: WI Shedhead
05-Mar-22
IMO $7 gallon gas isn’t gonna keep many from hunting diy hunts anywhere

From: GUTPILEPA
05-Mar-22
Won’t being doing much of anything!!!

From: drycreek
05-Mar-22
I imagine I’m done with out of state hunts, but put the pencil to it. How many are gonna scrap a trip over $200/$500 ? The bigger problem might be getting gas at all, nobody knows where this is going……

From: Dale06
05-Mar-22
I’ll be driving 1200 miles one way on an elk hunt. Already have a big deposit down on the hunt. Guessing it will cost me $6-800 dollars extra in gas. Let’s go Brandon!

From: SteveB
05-Mar-22
It won’t stop anyone. That’s a fact.

From: Woods Walker
05-Mar-22

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And 3 1/2 More Years To Go!
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And 3 1/2 More Years To Go!
If it were just fuel that was the issue it'd be one thing. But think for a moment about everything ELSE that's impacted by higher fuel costs/transportation.

It ain't gonna be pretty.........

05-Mar-22
Who's "Riden with Biden" now? He shut down the Keystone Pipeline, ended our energy independence, cost jobs, and empowered Russia and OPEC by doing so, and that is only one area where he has failed, there are countless more. And what did OPEC say when Brandon asked them to supply more oil? "NO!" Absolute worst occupant of the White House since Jimmy Carter, and that's saying a lot.

05-Mar-22
Seriously considering canceling my spring bear hunt in Canada. Fixed budget has been hit hard.

From: HDE
05-Mar-22
"If it were just fuel that was the issue it'd be one thing. But think for a moment about everything ELSE that's impacted by higher fuel costs/transportation."

This is the reality. All costs will increase, not just fuel. I can almost imagine the "fallout" when Shockey's article on a hunt increasing due to covid comes true when all operating costs for everyone everywhere increase just to provide the hunt that was booked last year at $2.00 gasoline and the outfitter wants you to pay more. Otherwise, there will be no bookings for hunts ever again, too many outfitters will be out of business. And, we're not talking about reimbursing "money spent not earned". We're talking about the increase in operating real time during the hunt...

From: Bou'bound
05-Mar-22
Saw a report it could go to 16.00 by November

From: Bou'bound
05-Mar-22
But the good news is it is a temporary issue.

From: Woods Walker
05-Mar-22

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And expect food prices to continue to spike also, as fuel prices AND the cost of natural gas (which is used to make fertilizer) are a big part of that production.

This will not be pretty.......

From: Ambush
05-Mar-22
"But the good news is it is a temporary issue"

"Transient", kinda like inflation, interest rate hikes and nukes.

From: kokosing
05-Mar-22
If Russia hatch the pipe line you might not get home. If Russia hatch the banks, your debit & credit cards will be shut down. Russia knows how to hatch. Money in your hand will be better than in the bank, if this happen.

05-Mar-22
Yes but at least the mean tweets have stopped

05-Mar-22
The cost of gas for a 7 day trip is the least of it. The cost of every product or service in every aspect of modern life goes up when fuel goes up for months+ and that is way more expensive than an extra $500 - $1000 for a trip.

Thats why you don't artificially attack the life blood of our economy to force transition to a different energy platform that isn't ready to replace it. I'm fine going "green" (even though its not as green as people pretend) as long as it happens primarily by market forces. Its so unbelievably stupid to put your country in a weak position on purpose that its almost like it isn't just a case of incompetence. Feels more like something intentional...

We will use what we need to use. The truth is that if you care about the environment, a barrel of oil extracted and refined in the US is better for the environment than a barrel extracted in China, Russia or the middle east. Of course its also better for our economy and the citizens. In the old days that was called a win/win.

From: HDE
05-Mar-22
Russia knows how to "hatch"?...

From: Scrappy
05-Mar-22
At what point will this cause the housing market to collapse? With all the folks that are mortgage poor in this country.

From: Jaquomo
05-Mar-22
This is the Left's wet dream.

From: Bowbender
05-Mar-22
Lou, this entire scenario is the left's wet dream. From runaway inflation, energy costs, pretty sure health care is do for a significant increase....This entire Charlie Foxtrot is the perfect storm for Rahm Emanual's comment "Never let a good crisis go to waste."

From: Hancock West
05-Mar-22
Yep it's all part of the plan. Drive gas so high people are forced to go electric

From: ahunter76
05-Mar-22

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I was planning a surprise trip for wife on our anniversary. I'm still going to do it but it's 100 miles from home near friends instead of the 1000 I had wanted in the gulf. GAS prices "do" make a difference on everyone but fixed income people seem to notice it most. I know our groceries are going higher each week. I went for gas yesterday (Eastern Iowa) & drove by 3 stations with many pumps covered for Ethonal. I found 1 Ethonal pump still working. Most prices (cheapest) was $3.65 but I paid $3.35. $30 got me a half tank. I feel for you Diesel users. My son works construction (Ill.) & will be on a job 1+ hr from his home & 15 min from me. Asked if he could stay at our place if it's 12 hr shifts while working there just due to Diesel cost. Said he would go home if 8 hr shift.. Yes, gas prices will make a difference in "many" choices we make in the "fun dept.. It may be those 1 day trips will be cheaper if you get lodging & stay 2 or 3. We are for sure in for a unstable future. How long remains to be seen.

From: Buffalo1
05-Mar-22
Filled my truck up yesterday (20 gal. tank - Toyota Tacoma). Had a $.10 gal discount. Total credit card charge was $72.10. Yes, I was running on fumes !

05-Mar-22
And once everybody is forced to go with electric cars and there is no fuel tax to steal from us what will they charge, an electric tax? Pay a ridiculous amount for a car with a limited range, pay to charge the piece of crap all year long and then get hammered with some new tax to make up for the anorexic fuel tax the govt is now missing. It's a lose, lose scenario for us all. Vote the rejects out in November....every last one of them needs to go.

From: drycreek
05-Mar-22
Greg, I thought them Tacos ran on chili peppers. ;-)

From: BowenAero
05-Mar-22

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From: spike78
05-Mar-22
November don’t forget an EV’s battery replacement is $5-7k!

From: Trad PA
05-Mar-22
I don’t think this is incompetence at all, actually the direct opposite. The way the average person has been hammered in the past year, from inflation to fuel to housing costs to rampant crime seems way too drastic to be incompetence. As others have said I think this is exactly what they want.

From: SB
05-Mar-22
If I go anywhere it will be on the motorcycle!...won't even be able to afford to mow the lawn!

From: Matt
05-Mar-22
Just saw $5.99 for premium at a Valero in Los Gatos, CA

From: elkmtngear
05-Mar-22
I run a small home EBay side business, where I ship product all over the U.S.

Since Spring of 2021 (Since Biden took the helm), my shipping costs have risen almost 40 percent. Had to raise my prices to compensate, or I'm left with next to nothing, by the time EBay takes their fees. Just shipped another order Today, 82 dollars retail, now costs me 60 dollars to ship a medium size box to the East Coast (and, that is WITH the EBay Discount). My Large boxes are now shipping at nearly 90 dollars (55 dollars anywhere in the U.S., back in 2020). Means I will have to raise my price on the listings again.

By creating the death of Energy Independence, the Biden Administration is effectively killing small Business. Consumers can only afford to pay so much for goods, and everything has a "selling point".

Shipping Carriers will ALWAYS raise their prices to meet rising fuel costs (and that includes the U.S. Postal Service).

Just had to get that off my chest...now, back to our regularly scheduled program!

From: HDE
05-Mar-22
All electric is an impossible reality.

From: 12yards
05-Mar-22
Probably all go in one vehicle. Saw an article from a farming agency that said food prices and supply will be high and short. Apparently a lot of fertilizer for the ag industry comes from Russia. Any truth to that?

From: Squash
05-Mar-22
It will not be long now, instead of the Amish hitching a ride with the English, the English will be hitching a ride with the Amish.

From: LBshooter
05-Mar-22
Let's hope it's only 7 dollars. Some are forecasting 185/bbl it's going to hurt, especially you guys driving the big v8's.

05-Mar-22
I'm in Ag and as soon as this blew up our fertilizer and fuel suppliers both said forget any pricing they gave us as it will all be higher and unstable.

Also DEF will be effected as all urea products are an issue. We are working on getting a couple of the old tractors up and running in case getting DEF for the newer ones becomes a problem and because parts for everything have been hit and miss.

From: RK
05-Mar-22
Just filled up at Murphy’s 3.44 Texas coast

From: lamb
05-Mar-22
4.14 deming new mexico where's Dana he wants to vote for him.

From: azelkhntr
05-Mar-22
Its 924 mi. from my house to Walden, CO. Round trip at 13 gals per mi. towing my trailer I will need 142 gals. At $5gal = $710, $6 = $852, $7 = $994. Not including the NR tags, food, drinks etc. or the extra fuel required to drive from one place to another while there. Big NOPE! FJB!

From: Shoe
05-Mar-22
X2 chillkill I’m beginning to think you are spot on.

From: HDE
05-Mar-22
"Apparently a lot of fertilizer for the ag industry comes from Russia. Any truth to that?"

Ukraine.

05-Mar-22
Can’t take it with you…

From: skull
05-Mar-22
“”””””””With the talk of gas prices possibly hitting $7/gallon this summer”””””””” that’s what we’re paying here in Ontario right now, not going to stop me from hunting

From: Norseman
05-Mar-22

Norseman 's Link
Nate, yes Russia and Belarus are big producers of simple mined potash (potassium chloride). Canada is the worlds top potash producer. Good article attach on the wars sanctions and effects on Europe.

Nitrogen (ammonia) and phosphorus are the other top two fertilizers.

From: DanaC
05-Mar-22
"4.14 deming new mexico where's Dana he wants to vote for him. "

Hi, Dave, $3.99 9/10 here today.

05-Mar-22

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Unleash ‘em…

From: HDE
05-Mar-22
"...yes Russia and Belarus are big producers of simple mined potash"

I misread something, not Ukraine.

From: Mule Power
06-Mar-22
Yes it sucks.

No it won’t keep me from running the mountains for elk. Nothing will.

Keystone pipeline has nothing to do with it. If you think it does you haven’t educated yourself. It’s ok to get over that now.

The only thing that keeps a true elk hunter from pursuing his passion is either not drawing a license or a body that can no longer do it.

From: woodguy65
06-Mar-22
Food prices going to make gas prices look like a good deal.

From: HDE
06-Mar-22
"The only thing that keeps a true elk hunter from pursuing his passion is either not drawing a license or a body that can no longer do it."

That is simply not true...

From: Mule Power
06-Mar-22
It is true if you want it to be. If gas prices double you add a partner and cut the cost in half. Where there’s a will there IS a way. I’d ride my mountain bike west if it came to that. And just think… no pressure! Coube the best season ever for those that make it happen.

06-Mar-22
Mule...Keystone has been carrying crude from Cushing to TX for over seven years now. Just FYI. The crude will come out of Canada one way or the other. How Biden, or any president, can sit in the White House and not realize the pain they caused when they moved to shut down fossil fuels in this country. Simple fact is that it is not humanly possible to "go electric". Wind systems that have been in place are nearing their end and there are no plans in place to get them replaced. It is said that our state generates 35% of its electricity from wind...on a calm day that 35% is 0. The stupidity of the federal leadership boggles this simple peasant... Given the choice of fuel, or electricity, or food; the choice is to remove the politician. Woodguy is so right.

From: Grey Ghost
06-Mar-22
I agree Mule Power. If a few hundred bucks extra for fuel is a hunt deal breaker, then you probably can't afford to go on the hunt in the first place.

Matt

From: scentman
06-Mar-22
Pootin told Machron, " the worst is yet to come".

From: Rockbass
06-Mar-22
In Ontario, Canada .... as of this morning it is a couple cents either side of $8.45 a gallon! NUTS. It went up another .11cents a litre over night (.50 per gallon increase) Most likely it is even higher in northern Ontario. TAXES...TAXES...TAXES....

06-Mar-22
It isn’t going to be a few extra hundred bucks for fuel on a hunt. It’s going to be a huge increase in every sector of life. By the time that all hits, it is going to be a deal breaker for a lot of people.

Which, as mule pointed out, might be a great thing. Unless the increased costs has economies suffering. You might not have a job by September.

From: sleepyhunter
06-Mar-22
Paid $3.69 Friday to fill my truck up.

From: lv2bohunt
06-Mar-22
Paying more for gas on 1 hunt isn’t a deal breaker but for some paying more for gas all month long for an extended period may make them reconsider some activities.

From: Mule Power
06-Mar-22
Sam’s Club $3.89 and that’s in Pa which other than Californica has the highest taxes and gas prices around.

From: Grey Ghost
06-Mar-22
If inflation causes a reduction in NR hunters invading Colorado this fall, I'll eat crow. It sure isn't preventing people from traveling right now. I just tried to find lodging in Southwest Florida for a quick fishing trip in the next few weeks. Everything is booked. Could things get much worse, and cause people's travel plans to change? I suppose so. But it's sure not happening right now.

Matt

From: HDE
06-Mar-22
"I agree Mule Power. If a few hundred bucks extra for fuel is a hunt deal breaker, then you probably can't afford to go on the hunt in the first place. Matt"

Another incorrect statement. That extra few hundred bucks is the price of the tag, cost of food, the cost of whatever normally budgeted for. It's also the same cost for vehicle insurance and any other normal "soap, dope, and rope" required to run a household. Sudden increases in fuel price isn't something you normally budget for when it comes to luxury activity.

No wonder today's young adults suffer from extreme high debt and the lack of understanding in financial literacy with guidance like that...

From: Grey Ghost
06-Mar-22
"No wonder today's young adults suffer from extreme high debt and the lack of understanding in financial literacy with guidance like that..."

That was exactly my point. Most young adults have no concept of living within their means. If their budgets are so tight that inflationary pressures cause them to change their travel plans, then traveling is probably not what they should be focused on.

Many guys, here, don't bat an eye at buying a new bow, or the latest and greatest camo outfit, every year. Yet, an increase in travel costs is suddenly a deal breaker? I'll believe it when I see it this fall.

Matt

From: txhunter58
06-Mar-22
The price of gas FOR THE TRIP TO HUNT shouldn’t affect the ability of most hunters to go this year.

What May affect people is the cost of gas all year long! They will spend more money for gas every day before and after the hunt. So that extra cost will add up and keep some from making the trip to hunt.

From: Mule Power
06-Mar-22
HDR you are seriously underestimating the determination of many elk hunters. It’s all about priorities. Maybe the casinos and barstools will see less activity but I don’t see any leftover elk tags on the horizon. Ever. I just dumped $2000 on a rifle scope. Bases were another $100. And I haven’t fed my wife in days. Priorities! Lol

From: Grey Ghost
06-Mar-22
Thanks for making my point, Shawn. You decided a new surf board wasn't worth it this year, but you're still sitting on a beach in Hawaii, right? I wanted a new boat for my Florida trip this year. That ain't going to happen, but I'll still be down there making do with my 17 year old skiff. First world problems, right?

I don't think anyone disputes that inflation hurts lower income families more. But, to claim you're sympathizing for them, while soaking up rays and drinking Pina coladas on a beach in Hawaii, comes across a little shallow to me.

Matt

From: bigbuck
06-Mar-22
gas here in VT has gone up 60 cents in the past 2 days 4.29 a gallon pretty tough when on Social Security,we go grocery shopping once a month as so far to grocerty stores,normally spend 200 to 220 yesterday 310 and didnt by anything extra,scary but what is really scary is heating our home with fuel oil going to 5 bucks a gallon going to be a lot of people cold people ,wood will be a big thing again which isn't the best for air pollution and here the greenies want to ban wood burning

From: azelkhntr
06-Mar-22
I think we're dangerously close to only being able to buy fuel for essential travel to work etc. Gas rationing is coming down the pike.

From: Grey Ghost
06-Mar-22
Shawn, I hope you're enjoying Hawaii, and I have no doubt that you've earned every minute of your time there. And, again, thanks for your service.

We have a house on Sanibel Island booked for the month of May. It's the same place we've rented for the last 6 years. It's an older place and not extravagant, but it has 4 beds/4 baths, pool, and a dock, so it meets our needs. We invite family and friends to join us. They usually kick in a few $$ to help pay for the rent and groceries. It's become our favorite annual trip.

I usually like to make a quick solo trip down there, at this time of year, mostly to insure my boat is in good running order for our May trip, and also to knock the winter rust off my fly casting stroke. The tarpon arrive around this time, and the early bite can be explosive. I've always been able to find a bed somewhere on the Island for this trip in the past, but not this year. The Island is packed to the gills like I've never seen it before. So, I'll probably just wait for our May trip. But, again, that's all first world problems, right?

I hope you catch some tasty waves, bro, while you're stressing over the plight of the average working folks.

Matt

From: Mint
06-Mar-22
Biden is a senile old man and the VP is an imbecile. Ron Klain and Susan Rice I'm guessing are running the show and are going to destroy the Democrat party. Once they realize regular democrats are going to vote against them because of high prices and high crime they will be forced to change their ways. If people still keep voting for Democrats then they will never change.

From: azelkhntr
06-Mar-22
Bwaahahahahaha! If your vote really mattered, they wouldn't let you pretend to do it. All elections have been rigged since 2000.

From: Bruce
06-Mar-22
3-5-2022 8pm filled up at 3.83 gallon, 3-6-2022 4.09 gallon at 6am,3-6-2022 4.25 gallon at 4pm, 3-7-2022 530 am 4.39 gallon. Haven’t looked lately. Palmer AK

06-Mar-22
Ides of March are not even here yet..... Diesel just went to $4.25.... paid $1.79 summer of 2020.

From: BK
06-Mar-22
Just came down I-80 through my state of Nebraska, Cheapest diesel I saw was $4.29. Filled up there in town at Kearney. Friday when I left to head west, I filled my truck at Walmart in my town, it was $3.65 Truck stops locations on I-80 are now around $4.79. If traveling I-80, good idea to exit and head into towns where it may be cheaper. F***J**B****!!!!!!!

From: Woods Walker
06-Mar-22

Woods Walker's embedded Photo
Woods Walker's embedded Photo
Just filled up at the local Meijer (usually one of the cheaper ones in the area), and it was 4.39 a gallon.

And it's just beginning.....

06-Mar-22

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'Ike' (Phone)'s embedded Photo
Easy way to be done with all this BS!

From: lawdy
06-Mar-22
We are going to Newfy this summer but we will be taking all our food. Our land up on the Northern Pen is right on on the ocean with a brook that runs through it, and a clam flat to the left of our land. I can walk 3 Km to two ponds and another sea trout brook. Plus, I can hike in to a tremendous trout brook up on the ridge behind us. After going there for almost forty years, we have seen all the touristy attractions. The only driving will be to play some gigs.

From: pirogue
06-Mar-22
Let’s go Brandon

From: TGbow
06-Mar-22
Woods Walker hit the nail on the head. Just shutting down the pipeline alone effects a lot of things ..most of us knew it was coming. You get what you vote for..in my case ,who I didn't vote for. Glad Im hunting less than 5 miles from my house these days..couldn't afford to drive a long ways with gas prices this high. I was in the trucking industry for 22 yrs and I can tell you the general public doesn't realize how high gas prices, higher taxes, regulations, effect the economy..sad to say but they don't have a clue. If they did have a clue they would quit voting for these big gov politicians...unless they are recieving entitlements from the gov, that we, the tax prayers pay for.

From: Woods Walker
06-Mar-22
He's like every other part of the Obiden administration....incompetent, incapable and clueless. Looking at a possible WW3, and an economic collapse, but no mean tweets!

You really can't fix stupid!!!

06-Mar-22

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06-Mar-22

'Ike' (Phone)'s Link
Meanwhile gas prices in Russia, with sanctions…Seriously!

From: Swampbuck
07-Mar-22

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Swampbuck's embedded Photo
I had to pay this for fuel this morning WTF!! $175+ to top off the truck

From: TGbow
07-Mar-22
This shouldn't be a surprise to anybody ..it was headed this way when the pipeline was shut down

From: Zbone
07-Mar-22
Yep Swampbuck, $409 for gas and $505 for diesel here in NE Ohio...

From: Swampbuck
08-Mar-22
Tru, probably a prius driver. Those stickers are on every pump I stop at.

From: midwest
08-Mar-22
Highest in history today!

Thank goodness for my onlyfans side gig.

08-Mar-22

ND String Puller's Link
Might have to build one of these to hunt this fall. Went down the rabbit hole on YouTube but dang...5000 miles on a cord of wood! If your in a pinch 7-8 miles on a dead cat !

From: Mule Power
08-Mar-22
$4.19 in Pa yesterday

From: Woods Walker
08-Mar-22
Hey now...you elect crap, and you get crap!

Mail in voting works real well, doesn't it?

From: Mule Power
08-Mar-22

Mule Power's embedded Photo
Mule Power's embedded Photo
I won’t ask about the interest rate….

From: Rocky D
08-Mar-22
Diesel raised thirty cents in 24 hours at local station yesterday!

08-Mar-22
For the first time since owning the 2011 F150 I bought in 2014, the gas pump cut off at $100 yesterday and didn’t fill it up.

I’ve got a diesel that costs $161 and change to fill up yesterday. It wasn’t empty when I started.

This is awesome.

08-Mar-22
Biden/Harris need to be asked/forced to resign. That needs to come from the heads of the "Central Committee" of the leftist regime. My fixed budget cannot handle the huge increases in food, fuel, etc. Told my buddies and my QC bear guide yesterday that I was pulling the plug on our hunt that had been postponed 2 years. Voters will pull the plug on Biden in Nov.

From: Woods Walker
08-Mar-22
I just saw a report that Biden is going to announce a ban on Russian oil imports today. That's fine as far as putting a squeeze on Putin, but the squeeze he's going to put on AMERICANS will be far worse! Rely on OIL from our enemies....good call Joe!

What we are b****ing about on this thread today will seem like the good 'ol days in the near future.

From: elkmtngear
08-Mar-22

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elkmtngear's embedded Photo

From: Grey Ghost
08-Mar-22
WW, we only get about 7% of our petroleum imports from Russia. It's likely we'll make up for that from Canada or Mexico, assuming Biden shuts off Russian imports. I think it's the right move.

But, of course, the same hand-wringers who have been calling for Biden to shut off the Russian oil spigot since the invasion, will now howl like monkeys when fuel prices go even higher.

Matt

From: HDE
08-Mar-22
Mule Power - The guy that has to save and budget every year to follow his "passion" on elk hunting may very well not get to when the fuel required runs an additional $500 on top of the $200 they budgeted for. That's some people's reality, but then again, maybe they're just not dedicated or serious enough about it.

And just getting another job that pays more isn't necessarily a reality either, especially when fuel price is increasing faster than votes changing for biden at 2 a.m. on election night...

From: Lawdog
08-Mar-22
In Sarasota last Tuesday regular gas was $3.20. It's now $4.20. It will probably be higher by the time I go home tonight. My bike is looking better by the minute. Once the traffic thins out, it should be safe to ride the 11 miles to work. I should have plenty of company. With traffic as it is now, it may even be a time saver, and I need the exercise. I just can't wait until rising energy costs hits the grocery and other stores.

From: Schwammerl
08-Mar-22

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From: LBshooter
08-Mar-22
Honestly, after being warned about Biden and the democrats ruining the country and in less than 12 months they've done a bang up job!! Next to come is recession and God forbid , well I'm not going to say it. How anyone with a half of brain cell in their head could ever vote for a democrat is beyond me, for the good of the country we need to crush the Dems in 2022 and the first month of the new congress we need to impeach both the pres and vp. Biden and the Dems are so bent on a green energy that they are sacrificing the and put as much pain into the middle class, it's disgusting.

From: Tilzbow
08-Mar-22
Speaking of getting oil from enemies, I scanned the thread and was surprised no one mentioned that Biden’s administration is now negotiating with Venezuela. See below. Ain’t Joe great?

The Biden administration held rare in-person meetings with Venezuelan officials in Caracas over the weekend to discuss letting Venezuela start selling crude oil on the open market again as part of an effort to address a surge in oil prices since Russia invaded Ukraine. Pressure is mounting for the U.S. to ban imports of Russian oil, and Reinaldo Quintero, president of the association representing Venezuelan oil companies, said that the South American nation could ramp up production to eventually replace the crude the U.S. currently gets from Russia. The U.S. once got much of its imported oil from Venezuela, until the Trump administration cut it off as it attempted to drive out the authoritarian government of President Nicolás Maduro. Russian energy companies and banks helped Venezuela continue exporting oil. [The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal]

From: Tilzbow
08-Mar-22

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This is starting to look like a bad decision!

From: Grey Ghost
08-Mar-22
Damn, Scott, I bet that boat scoots!!

You might wanna trim that engine up before you pull it anywhere, though. ;-)

Matt

08-Mar-22
Stopping Russian oil imports. Great, just forgot the part that should have come first which was encouraging a big increase in our own production.

We won't be much good to the planet or climate or anything if we are in turmoil with a bad economy and unaffordable energy.

From: Tilzbow
08-Mar-22
Matt,

I turned the lower unit on my first boat’s 150 Merc into a plow on more than one occasion. With this boat, and my RV after driving off with a door awning out, I now walk around both and make sure everything is in travel position. I can’t remember stuff as I get older but maybe I got a little smarter….. Maybe….

From: Woods Walker
08-Mar-22
X2 Glunt.

From: 12yards
08-Mar-22
Tilzbow that is a great boat! I guess you can still fish out of it. Just dump it in the water, lower the bow mount, and fish. Hopefully there's some fish around the access. Now the cost to tow it is another story. Hopefully the fishing spot is just down the road.

From: 12yards
08-Mar-22

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Psaki said they have plenty of leases. Apparently that doesn't equate to opening the valve.

From: LINK
08-Mar-22
I wouldn’t discount a decent percentage of people canceling diy out of state hunts due to gas price. $800 tag on average and 200 gallons at $2. A guy can head west and hunt elk for $1200. This year that 200 gallons at $6 a gallon could turn the $1200 hunt into $2000 plus. To all of people that’s not much but when your yearly fuel budget has jumped from $2000 to $6000 that extra $800 to go elk hunting can seam like a good place to save money. Not to mention the inflation hitting everywhere else for those that live on a budget.

From: scentman
08-Mar-22
After Joe's Burgers speech we'll be glad to pay 8 dollars a gallon... take dat Pootin, go gettem!

From: Woods Walker
08-Mar-22
Shhhh...........don't give the senile old bastid any ideas, or worse yet give his handlers any ideas!

From: Porcupine
08-Mar-22
Yeah this is getting stupid! Its like growing your own veggies and then buying them at the store for more money.

From: HDE
08-Mar-22
The price of fuel won't matter to us boat owners because we are passionate about chasing bronze-backs, walleye, mac's, or anything else that swims. If we can't afford $7.00 gas, we can't afford the boat in the first place.

Yeah, sure...

08-Mar-22

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Northern CO today. I may have made more staying home than working.

From: Michael
08-Mar-22

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Could you image the price tag for gas in this boat? When we went out last year we ended up 70 miles out.

Nice boat Tilzbow! I won’t like putting gas in my truck and my little 150 Suzuki. Add another 250 hp to feed would suck.

From: Grey Ghost
08-Mar-22

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I had the opportunity to spend 4 nights on this beauty in the Everglades a few years ago. We navigated it from Ft. Myers to the Glades with a smaller bay boat in tow. 5 guys split all the fuel and other expenses. I doubt that trip is going to happen, again, anytime soon.

Matt

08-Mar-22
Hey, the administration said Americans need to suffer some...Welcome to America 2022!

From: Snuffer
08-Mar-22
True ike. I bet Nancy is smiling and rubbing her fists together again...

From: HDE
08-Mar-22
The clown in chief said the price for freedom is going to hurt. Like he even knows what he's talking about.

"Let's go get him!"

From: Norseman
08-Mar-22
Just plug it in. Easy peasy free energy

From: azelkhntr
08-Mar-22

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From: Lawdog
08-Mar-22
Good lord is RHSBshtr Shawn too? Jeff Dunham has a comedy skit called "Arguing with Myself". For those that may not know, Mr. Dunham is a ventriloquist. Too funny.

From: SB
08-Mar-22
How rich!.... people driving 50-60k trucks complaining about gas prices!

From: Old Bow
08-Mar-22

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From: scentman
08-Mar-22
Fresh Tuna in Oahu Kansas, gimme sum o dat... TBM ain't got nothing over you! Keep it coming, I'm still learning bro. scentman

From: Tilzbow
08-Mar-22
Michael,

That 400 Verado does suck to the tune of 1 MPG at WOT (wide open throttle for non-boaters) but she sure is fun! I found a gauge on my Solix that shows she’s drinking 10 to 15 gallons per hour. So, you gotta figure those four 350 Suzukis in your picture are burning about 40 to 50 gallons per hour when they’re wide open. I didn’t really understand why boats had such big fuel tanks until I filled my friend’s 26’ North River at the dock a few years ago and found we’d burned 120 gallons in 3 days of ocean fishing and he’s “only” got a single 300….

True 1st world problems… What’s going on in Ukraine makes our little problems easier to deal with! I definitely feel for those living paycheck to paycheck. This crap is definitely going to impact them in a way worse way than me cutting back on fishing a day or two a month or thinking twice above driving 2,500 round trip miles to hunt an elk.

From: HDE
08-Mar-22
"How rich!.... people driving 50-60k trucks complaining about gas prices!"

Kind of like people that pay $8k for a guided hunt using $5k worth of gear then bitching about a $250 meat processing fee?

From: scentman
08-Mar-22
Penny wise, pound foolish... go figure.

08-Mar-22
The big guy supposedly pulled the plug on Pooties oil…Finally!

From: Ambush
08-Mar-22

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Yeah. Might have picked a bad time to buy a boat with a 454. Seemed like a good idea last fall. Might keep 22’ with the four cylinder for economy fishing.

From: Ambush
08-Mar-22

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08-Mar-22
Yes, but it looks good! ;-)

08-Mar-22

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My wife sent me this just a minute ago. We thought it was hilarious.

08-Mar-22
great boat

08-Mar-22
Also know crying about the gas price, for those that voted for Biden / Harris.... Biden is doing exactly what he said he would do, get rid of fossil fuel, gas and oil, etc. He did not hide it. At least he said what he was going to do.

Yes he is a bubble head, but he did not lie. So many hated Trump so bad, for whatever silly reason, they would not vote for him.... Well now you made your bed, lay in it

From: bigeasygator
08-Mar-22
Biden is doing exactly what he said he would do, get rid of fossil fuel, gas and oil, etc

You know he's done such a good job at getting rid of them that we're producing a million more barrels a day now vs. when Trump left office.

08-Mar-22
10% for the big guy!

From: KSflatlander
08-Mar-22
BEG- please stop with all those pesky facts. They are contrary to those who live in alternate realities.

From: LBshooter
08-Mar-22
Ambush, love the rig.

From: TGbow
08-Mar-22
If I were a Democrat I don't think I could bring myself to deny the fact that Biden is a total disaster. He has screwed up more I'm one year than Bush and Obama did combined

From: Ambush
08-Mar-22
Thanks. Between my resident saltwater license, an Alaskan license and the price of seafood, I can still probably more than pay for the gas. :)

You can't put a price on fun, but maybe you can get priced out of it. We'll see.

From: Orion
08-Mar-22

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Yep I'm sure these policies have nothing to do with it.

From: Orion
08-Mar-22
Gas went up over .55 here in the last week. Went from 3.54 to 4.09 this morning. Haven't been this high since the Obama years.

08-Mar-22
I hear tell sone places in Cali, gas is going over $7/gallon today!!!

From: SB
08-Mar-22

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Only burned 4 gals in this one in a week of fishing last year! But we don't burn all over the lake all day...we fish!

From: bowhunt
08-Mar-22
$4.49 this morning in Clackamas county Oregon

Who knows if it will hit $7 in my area, but I wouldn’t be shocked at all seeing $5 or $5.50 regular unleaded by Memorial Day weekend

Glad I bought a Toyota Prius for a daily driver In late March 2020 the week after the whole world shut down for $2700.00

At current prices I’m saving about $160 per month leaving my Tacoma parked in the garage

From: Tilzbow
08-Mar-22
Yeah, I saw that about CA on some news show. But I just looked up prices in LA, SF and San Diego and most was close to $5 on the bottom end and a little over $6 on the top end.

From: bigeasygator
08-Mar-22
Yep I'm sure these policies have nothing to do with it.

I don’t know what “hold oil executives accountable” means so I won’t comment on it. But none of the other points Mr. Bongino raised have actually happened.

From: Arrownoob
08-Mar-22
We just printed and gave away trillions of dollars and now everyone is surprised prices are going up? That’s how it works. The amount of wealth remains constant yet we created trillions more dollars- think about it.

08-Mar-22
You’re frick’n kidding me…Put our workers back to work, but no! This administration needs to go and go quickly…

"Tuesday’s release followed talks in Caracas on Saturday as the Biden administration sought ways to stave off the impact of soaring U.S. gas prices spurred by Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine and the West’s efforts to punish Moscow for it.

Engagement with Maduro, a longtime U.S. foe, was also aimed at gauging whether Venezuela is prepared to distance itself from Russia." — Reuters

09-Mar-22
Covid lockdowns throw a wrench in all the numbers. The record oil production under Trump was steadily increasing before that. Biden hasn't followed through on all of his anti-fossil fuel rhetoric but in a highly regulated industry like oil and gas, having an adversarial administration doesn't exactly promote investment in new projects and infrastructure. Even if it's bark is worse than it's bite. When the people making the rules have told you they want to make life hard on you, you wonder what is coming and most of the guesses aren't good.

What Biden's actual policy moves have done to fossil fuel production aren't crushing things but certainly aren't helping either. We should be in an operation Warp Speed 2 to get oil, gas, and coal production cranked up. Going "green" is fine but we need to be healthy and strong to make the journey.

If you decide to only eat non-GMO veggies and free-range chickens you grow yourself, thats fine. Bad idea to toss all your other food and swear off the grocery store the day you plant the seeds and buy some chicks. You need to eat and have strength to tend the garden, care for the chicks, fight off the foxes and be prepared when your crops fail or a big hail storm kills your chickens while they range freely.

From: Rocky D
09-Mar-22
Why do we have to accept climate change as the number one existential threat!

I don’t think that Biden has ever done a threat analysis.

No one even knows actually if we can reverse the greenhouse effect!

It’s a fact that we have no chance unless China agrees to be part of the solution.

This is another war that we do not have a roadmap of success laid out!

Have you ever seen a diagram of how we can actually achieve to win the battle against climate change.

This is worse than getting into the Vietnam war without a path to victory.

As far as libs constantly defending Joe Biden where were you when the Dems and the media harassed and harried a duly elected president?

To say that Biden’s policies and actions have not contributed to this situation is the most asinine thing that I have heard lately!

Libs need to quit defending this administration who have from the beginning has been misled by the radical left of their own party.

09-Mar-22
Tilz, you’d better look again.

09-Mar-22

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From: Rocky D
09-Mar-22
WV, like my brother used to say that he was expecting to get hit or he would not have gotten into it!

From: bigeasygator
09-Mar-22
To say that Biden’s policies and actions have not contributed to this situation is the most asinine thing that I have heard lately!

I think the most asinine thing I’ve heard is people throwing blame at policies that haven’t even been enacted.

Demand has skyrocketed over the last few years as the post pandemic economy has heated up. Are you going to give credit to Biden for a strong economy and strong demand? I’m certainly not, because just like on the supply side, he’s done next to nothing to alter the equation. But by your logic he’s gotta have something to do with the red hot economy.

I see a lot of people like to parrot what our favorite politicians and our favorite talking heads say. This is the height of intellectual laziness. There’s more to the world and what’s happening than Biden.

From: KSflatlander
09-Mar-22
RockyD- I’m not defending Biden, but to say he is to blame for the current price of an international commodity is asinine. It’s shows you’re either intellectually dishonest or mindlessly watch too much right wing media. There are plenty of credible sources out there with the info. BEG has posted many of them. C’mon man. Be honest about it. Don’t be a hack.

From: Snuffer
09-Mar-22
He is to blame and you are an idiot ks.

From: scentman
09-Mar-22
BEG, KS, it's happening under Joe's watch... it is what it is, no credible source can refute that. You voted for this mess, you own it... stop making excuses.

From: bigeasygator
09-Mar-22
BEG, KS, it's happening under Joe's watch... it is what it is, no credible source can refute that. You voted for this mess, you own it

I didn’t vote for Biden. I think he - and his energy policy - are terrible. I’m not making excuses for him, I’m pointing out facts. If your threshold of “blame” is “he’s in office when it happened” and you choose to ignore the complex realities of what is actually happening in the oil markets, then so be it.

From: KSflatlander
09-Mar-22
Scentman- by your logic Trump owns the economic crash and downturn in 2019-2020 and is totally to blame. Do you agree with that? Or did the economic downturn and job losses have much more to the fact we were in a pandemic, state policy, and would have happened regardless of who was president?

I do agree the gas prices soaring are under Biden’s watch and he now owns it. However, I think there are more things to criticize Biden about that are actually his doing. The afghan withdrawal for one.

From: scentman
09-Mar-22
Trump was under fire from the time he took the oath... Shif and company held his administration hostage under totally false pretense... we lived war free, economically comfortable, and could afford a nice meal... how's your tax return this year? My tax return is the worst since 1972 when I had my first job. Democrats sold this country out along with the Bush family, yes the Bush family has done more damage than even the Clinton's to our nation.

From: KSflatlander
09-Mar-22
Scentman- you realize that Biden did not change tax policy right? Oh forget it…consider it rhetorical.

From: scentman
09-Mar-22
My point is it's all happening at the present... Trump would be under tribunal scrutiny as a criminal, you know it as well as I... they would claim his actions as not in the best interest of our nation. The hypocrisy is disgusting, and it will show in the coming elections.

From: bigeasygator
09-Mar-22
how's your tax return this year? My tax return is the worst since 1972 when I had my first job.

If by tax return you mean tax refund, that's merely a measure of how much you overpaid in taxes. You can always overpay more on your taxes if you want a higher refund.

From: scentman
09-Mar-22
I can also drop cable, cell service, grocery list, sell my Silverado and ride metro in the city... I see your point, but I can't help if you don't see where we are going under present administration.

From: KSflatlander
09-Mar-22
Scentman- I don’t think you truly understand what hypocrisy means. If you think you do then re-read your posts.

From: Rocky D
09-Mar-22
“ It’s shows you’re either intellectually dishonest or mindlessly watch too much right wing media.”

Gotcha, and to focus singularly on gas prices as the issue and not just a symptom of the weak leadership in the WH falls into being intellectually dishonest!

I would and try to watch CNN, MSNBC, ABC , and many others but I cannot stomach what I hear!

I not going to give away a free pass to the intellectual community when they fail to pass the common sense test.

Democratic policies have failed every major American city but they want point the finger at conservatives as being responsible.

I have watched absolute lunacy since 2016. I just watched Clyburn from South Carolina handover the democratic nomination for an African American to be nominated to the Supreme Court. What is even worse when he they came out publicly and said this. If I was Bernie Sanders I would be livid but all he asked for was a bigger megaphone.

What is even more asinine is hunters supporting a party that is absolutely anti-hunting by all of their actions and legislation.

Call me out for being overly simplistic, but I am not going to watch Joy Reid say that the only reason we’re paying attention to the Ukraine is because it’s a white country.

I guess she can’t intellectually come up with an answer of why the Ukraine‘s geographic location and its history and ours with the Russia makes this a very tenuous situation and implications of a WWIII isn’t enough.

So , tell me tell me where I am being intellectually dishonest! I literally try to understand your perspective but I fail to get there. I watch very little Fox News and even less of what would be considered the liberal left media and my primary news source are Their apps.

I can’t stand the messaging on either side. We the people have to discern the reality but we have made little progress. I see a laundry list of items and issues where liberals on both side have been intellectually dishonest and continue to be so in their defense of Biden!

It’s amazing Congress and the Senate can do insider trading but I couldn’t as government employee with the same information. Yet, we are challenged to see where this is wrong as a society.

We as a group must try to remove at least some of the ambiguity of political double talk and call it for what it is!

From: bigeasygator
09-Mar-22
I would and try to watch CNN, MSNBC, ABC , and many others but I cannot stomach what I hear!

I can't either, Rocky. I recommend CNBC. You have qualified anchors, essentially no political bias, and you get the market slant on all the biggest news.

From: PECO2
09-Mar-22
Feeling good about the summer fishing season. I fish from a kayak, or waders in the river and creeks. I still need to get there though.

From: KSflatlander
09-Mar-22
“So , tell me tell me where I am being intellectually dishonest!“

To stick to the OP, can you explain the factors the affect gas prices the most in this current situation? Then relate whatever Biden had done, or not done to affect that variable…and here is the important part…back it up with facts and not just your opinion.

I will give you one. He is banning the important of Russian oil. That will/has affected gas prices.

From: bigeasygator
09-Mar-22
Even at $150 Oil, Pioneer Natural to Maintain 0-5% Production Growth, CEO Says

“I’m getting more and more confident about the long-term oil strip being much higher than we had expected,” Sheffield told analysts on Thursday during a call to discuss fourth-quarter and full-year 2021 earnings.

Nonetheless, “We’re not going to change…at $100 oil, $150 oil, we’re not going to change our growth rate,” Sheffield said. “We think it’s important to return cash back to the shareholders.”

https://www.naturalgasintel.com/even-at-150-oil-pioneer-natural-to-maintain-0-5-production-growth-ceo-says/

Diamondback to keep oil output flat in 2022

Like other publicly traded producers, Diamondback has prioritized shareholder returns as the industry rebuilds from last year's pandemic-related collapse and years of excess spending prior to then. Chief executive Travis Stice pledged to return 50pc of expected free cash flow to investors starting from the fourth quarter.

Diamondback has shifted from being a company that consumes capital to one that returns capital, Stice said. That outlook would change only if investor sentiment shifts.

https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news/2269862-diamondback-to-keep-oil-output-flat-in-2022

Devon Energy Holds the Line on Output Plan

Devon Energy Corp. will boost output no more than 5% this year -- in line with earlier estimates -- signaling discipline is holding even as oil approaches $100 a barrel.

The Oklahoma City-based shale explorer, which closed on its acquisition of rival WPX Energy Inc. in January last year, will keep production in the range of 570,000 to 600,000 barrels of oil equivalent a day. On the low end, that’s flat production; on the high end, it’s on par with the 5% raise analysts had been expecting.

“We will remain extremely disciplined by prioritizing value over the pursuit of volume,” Chief Executive Officer Rick Muncrief said Tuesday in a statement announcing year-end results.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-15/devon-energy-stands-by-pledge-not-to-boost-2022-output-quickly

Marathon Oil chooses cash returns over oil production ramp-up

Marathon Oil Corp. said oil and natural gas production won’t increase this year as it concentrates on pouring cash into dividends and share buybacks.

The shale giant announced plans to spend $1.2 billion on capital projects this year, in line with analysts’ expectations for a 20% increase from the 2021 level, according to a statement on Wednesday. The company forecasts generating more than $3 billion of free cash flow, exceeding estimates by half a billion dollars.

Marathon said it expects to exceed its commitment to return a minimum of 40% of cash from operations to investors, assuming oil prices average around $60 a barrel or higher. Per-share adjusted earnings of 77 cents exceeded the average estimate by 22 cents.

https://www.worldoil.com/news/2022/2/17/marathon-oil-chooses-cash-returns-over-oil-production-ramp-up/

Damnit, Biden!!

From: Rocky D
09-Mar-22
“ To stick to the OP, can you explain the factors the affect gas prices the most in this current gas price situation? ”

KS / BEG I guess I failed to make my point. Gas prices from my perspective are just a symptom of greater problem. Also I wasn’t limiting these comments to just this thread when it comes to intellectual dishonesty, You all have fervently defended your positions and frankly at this point in time I do not see how that you can continue to do so without a degree of intellectual dishonesty! I mean did we really let Hillary Clinton get away with taking a hammer out and busting cell phones and bleaching a hard drive? Do we continue to disacknowledge Hunter Biden‘s computer and his dealings with the the international community? Can we honestly continue to support the mask mandates.

Can we honestly except that climate changes are greatest existential threat? In the army we use the term that you have to shoot the near target first. Currently our greatest threat is China Russia and the overall dissension in America but we use climate change to create more dissension in America!

Come back and tell me when your solution to climate change is a roadmap to achieving the desired goal. Currently you can’t do it so! I don’t wanna talk about cows farting, going vegan, and wind mills when you have far greater enemies at the gate!

Clinton and Obama robbed the defense budget and now we are hurting as a world leader because our military is not what it once was!

Where do you think they’re going to get the money from for the climate initiative? oh, I forgot it’s already paid for!

The reason that we make no progress here is because we all have a little bit of intellectual dishonesty and it’s creating an impasse. This should be familiar because this is where we stand as a nation!

From: bigeasygator
09-Mar-22
Can we honestly except that climate changes are greatest existential threat? In the army we use the term that you have to shoot the near target first. Currently our greatest threat is China Russia and the overall dissension in America but we use climate change to create more dissension in America!

This thread is about gas prices, so that's what I'm focused on. The reality is that current gas prices have WAY more to do with Russia and about twenty other things than it does about climate change initiatives or the current admins energy policy.

Come back and tell me when your solution to climate change is a roadmap to achieving the desired goal. Currently you can’t do it so!

That's not true. There are plenty of roadmaps out there. It all depends on what your energy transition related goals are. Lots of ways to measure progress, and you've left an open-ended timeline on things so there's plenty of time to deliver these roadmaps (regardless of what your goals are). This will be a multi-decade journey and the pace at which me move is going to matter a lot in terms of the economic impact of the transition.

Where do you think they’re going to get the money from for the climate initiative?

Our company has made it pretty clear - the cash delivered by our oil and gas activities is what is going to deliver the energy used in the future. For other companies, there are plenty of ESG dollars being invested in the hopes of funding the "next big thing."

09-Mar-22
Diesel here just went over $5..... record fuel prices. Where in hell are we headed???

From: TGbow
09-Mar-22
Come on fellas..you know Joe is doin the best he can...at destroying everything he touches. We need higher taxes, more regulations, ect. Besides, the Democrats are for the "working class"..right?

From: Grey Ghost
09-Mar-22
Interesting interview with the chairman of ConocoPhillips, yesterday. Especially when he talks about available leases and production forecasts.

Matt

From: 12yards
09-Mar-22
The question then is why are shareholders demanding oil companies to not increase output? Is it because of the rhetoric against fossil fuels by Biden and the rest of the global leftist elites? Increase our profits while we can? Stick it to these MOFOs that want to get rid of us? To me it is a combination of all of the above. War, Biden's anti fossil fuel stance, corporate greed, etc. It is not one thing. Words matter in markets IMO. Pro fossil fuel president means more exploration and extraction. Anti fossil fuel president means less exploration and risk taking equals higher prices.

From: Orion
09-Mar-22
BEG you can't use demand as a reason for high gas prices. The demand is no higher than it was 2016-2019 before the pandemic and prices were nowhere near this level.

From: Mint
09-Mar-22
The Democrats in charge want to get rid of coal and fossil fuels and they have repeatedly said so in the past and said that they will do everything in their power to increase their cost.

From: TGbow
09-Mar-22
Jeff, exactly. Scary that a government has that much power over the private sector..or what should be the private sector.

From: DanaC
09-Mar-22
Demand doesn't have to go up if we declare part of the supply/some suppliers 'off limits.' The rest of the suppliers see in increase in demand for their share of total demand, and charge accordingly.

09-Mar-22
Russia became off limits this week. Fuel went up a whole lot before that.

From: TGbow
09-Mar-22
Yep..it was going up already and we knew it was coming when dufus shut down the pipeline

From: bigeasygator
09-Mar-22
The question then is why are shareholders demanding oil companies to not increase output?

It has much more to do with the fact that the industry grew substantially between 2010-2020 and was burned twice by price crashes. In that time, all the growth and increased output did little for investors - the margins weren't great and it took a lot of capital to keep up the growth so ultimately shareholder returns lagged just about every other industry during that time. The industry has now scaled back and is generating the same type of cash and is returning it to investors instead of reinvesting it in growth - and oil companies have been rewarded for this.

BEG you can't use demand as a reason for high gas prices. The demand is no higher than it was 2016-2019

It certainly is higher than 2016-2019 right now. This year is expected to mark the highest consumption ever - in the US and globally. Prices might cool that forecast a little, but demand is very strong right now. Supply is suppressed from record high production levels that peaked a month before the pandemic kicked off. Again, suppliers are not interested in raising output only to get burned again.

From: TGbow
09-Mar-22
Yep..it was going up already and we knew it was coming when dufus shut down the pipeline

09-Mar-22

'Ike' (Phone)'s embedded Photo
'Ike' (Phone)'s embedded Photo
It’s kind of funny, that some of you think Joe even has a clue…

From: Brotsky
09-Mar-22
Everyone on here blaming Biden or this or that....all good scapegoats. Guess who will be reporting record profits when the earnings are released?

From: Grey Ghost
09-Mar-22
"Guess who will be reporting record profits when the earnings are released?"

Apple, as usual? ;-)

Matt

From: HDE
09-Mar-22
Increased oil production today has absolutely nothing to do with biden. The man hasn't even been in office for two years and his entire "administration" has been bogged down by his covid BS, so let's not give him credit for something put in place by his predecessors policy...

KSFlat - another "pesky" fact for you...

09-Mar-22
If the search function worked, I could literally post a dozen replies from two posters, explaining why natural gas and oil producers were going to increase production while the getting was good. Now, the same people are stating that oil producers are not going to increase production to get it while the getting is good.

I don’t think for a second that either are wrong giving the situation. Only drawing point to it to show who is behind the lagging supply issue. There is simply no rush to fix this. Higher gas prices means higher oil prices. The people making money off this are going to draw it out as much as possible. For as long as possible.

Corporate doesn’t want prices to go down. Corporate has been waiting on this exact scenario for a while. And, have zero intent of trying to correct it with any earnest. That’s life and that’s the simple facts.

The question remains, how does policy affect this. And, what role did policy play in creating this situation?

Everyone knows why we are here. Everyone knows that policy affecting investment over the long run is just icing on the cake for the puppet masters in charge of producing oil. And, it’s obvious who plays to that drum beat concerning politicians.

So, get ready. This isn’t going to work out for a while. And as it clears, they’ll be another opportunity to curtail supply to keep demand high. And, we will be right back in it.

Both parties will see to that.

From: bigeasygator
09-Mar-22
Increased oil production today has absolutely nothing to do with biden. The man hasn't even been in office for two years and his entire "administration" has been bogged down by his covid BS, so let's not give him credit for something put in place by his predecessors policy...

Agree. Though it really has little to do with Trump's policies either. There were record O&G bankruptcies under Trump. Again, the forces driving oil and gas markets are much bigger than the man in the White House (which has been my main point all along).

From: Grey Ghost
09-Mar-22

Grey Ghost's embedded Photo
Grey Ghost's embedded Photo
Relating to BEG's last post, here's a 10-year chart of the SPDR Energy ETF (ticker symbol: XLE). Basically the ETF is a basket of all the biggest names in the energy industry. 43% of its share holdings are in Exxon and Chevron, for example.

As you can see, share prices reached a high in 2014, then went on a steady grind lower thru 2020. They rose sharply in 2021, and so far this year, but they are still well below the highs that were set 8 years ago. The 10-yr return on this ETF is a pathetic 1.34%, which is consistent with returns of the individual companies within its holdings.

Despite perceptions to the contrary, it really isn't a very lucrative industry to invest in.

Matt

From: bigeasygator
09-Mar-22
To put it frankly, it's been garbage, Matt. Granted, the industry generally pays a pretty good dividend, but you can see that the growth strategy has done nothing for stock price appreciation. Once the industry truly started to embrace a smaller footprint following the pandemic, the market started rewarding us and shareholder return has started to improve.

From: Matt
09-Mar-22

Matt's Link
Looks like UAE is going to increase output to help buffer the supply shock created by Russian oil boycotts. That should provide some reprieve at the pumps.

From: 'Ike'
09-Mar-22
I topped off this afternoon at $5.79 (Diesel)...Went by just now and it's at $6.29! We'll be lucky if it's at $7 by Summer, most likely, way over...SMH! Way to go Joe...

From: Grey Ghost
09-Mar-22
Matt, I watched an interview with an oil commodities expert on CNBC today. I didn't catch his name, but he seemed to know what he was talking about. He said that the UAE doesn't have the production capacity to significantly influance global supplies. He said Saudi Arabia was the only producer with enough capacity to offset the Russian oil boycotts in the short term. And, so far, they've showed no interest in doing so.

Matt

From: Grey Ghost
09-Mar-22
"Going to $190-200brl near as i can tell."

I've made note of your prediction, Shawn. So when it vanishes after you get banned again, I can remind everyone of it. But, I'm sure you know better than investors who have priced Dec 2022 crude futures contracts in the $87/barrel range. What the hell are they thinking, eh?

Matt

From: Grey Ghost
09-Mar-22
"I think good crude will go $190 if demand goes pre Covid"

Noted for future reference, again.

FYI, US daily consumption has already exceeded pre-covid levels, while production is lagging behind, hence the current spike. Perhaps you missed that fact while sipping on your Pina colada in Hawaii.

Matt

From: Grey Ghost
09-Mar-22
And once again, Shawn’s posts disappear, making it appear I’m talking to phantoms. I’m cool with that. LOL!

From: RK
09-Mar-22
Damn you guys act like Shawn is satan or worse

I guess since all of you were in the service of this country and spend years deployed you have that luxury

Me not so much and there are so many people on this cite much more annoying than Shawn. I still can’t figure out why he is banned. Can’t be from content or we would all be banned

09-Mar-22
And another clone appears…Matt from what I’ve read, the Biden administration somehow pissed off the Saudi’s…They have no reason to help him! The reason for the Venezuela trip…

Also, why haven’t our reserves been tapped?!?

From: RK
09-Mar-22
ike who is the clone?

Saudis still tied to Russia. That's why they will not help

This administration is so anti American that it should be criminal. Probably is

From: Matt
09-Mar-22

Matt's Link
Crude futures dropped ~17% to ~$105/barrel today. Is that less than $190/barrel? I used think so, but with all the conflicting information I read on this site I am no longer sure.

From the linked Reuters article: “Brent dropped more than 17%, falling to nearly $105 a barrel, after a confluence of headlines sparked a risk-off sentiment throughout markets. The UAE said it will call on its fellow OPEC+ members to boost oil output faster. At the same time, Zelenskiy reiterated to Germany’s Bild newspaper it was ready to make compromises to end the war.”

From: Matt
09-Mar-22
“ Matt, I watched an interview with an oil commodities expert on CNBC today. I didn't catch his name, but he seemed to know what he was talking about.”

Seems the markets disagree with your guy.

From: Grey Ghost
09-Mar-22
I hope the markets are right, Matt. They usually are in the long run. That was my point to Shawn. His 190/barrel predictions are idiotic, IMO.

Matt

From: RK
10-Mar-22
Damn you guys act like Shawn is satan or worse

I guess since all of you were in the service of this country and spend years deployed you have that luxury

Me not so much and there are so many people on this cite much more annoying than Shawn. I still can’t figure out why he is banned. Can’t be from content or we would all be banned

10-Mar-22
Lol...Yup, answered the question!

From: RK
10-Mar-22
Ike you might help me with a question. I was on a Nilgai hunt last weekend and one of the guys on the hunt asked me whatever happened to the old Ruby ranch property I knew the ranch split and I think you were one of the first hunters on the new part So do you remember what year you killed your blackbuck with Ron Duncan No big deal just trying to put together dates. Thanks

From: Beendare
10-Mar-22
Diesel was $7 here yesterday, Wed 3.9.22, but then it backed off to $6.69 today.

What the Biden excuse makers don't get is that Trumps strategy to incentivize energy independence not only lowered the cost of fuel to Americans.....but it also kept inflation in check....AND it held the profits down to the Bad actors in the world like the Saudi's and Russia.

Anything over apx. $45/ barrel is pure profit to Russia. So at an apx avg during Trumps admin of $55, they didn't have a lot of room to fool around. In comes Biden with his public war on fossil fuel and pushing clime initiatives....oil jumps up in the $80 range handing Putin Billions of dollars of massive profits on the same barrels.

PUTIN LITERALLY COULDN’T AFFORD TO INVADE UNDER TRUMP- a brilliant strategy really. With Biden and his restrictive policy in there, an invasion only helps put more profit in Putins pocket as it makes the price of oil even higher.

But Beendare.....Biden has not Restricted oil- Psaki and Harris said so. BS, thats a lie- stop listening to Psaki and get the facts; Pipeline restrictions, emission restrictions, Public statements that literally kill investment AND Access to capital on top of everything else.

HERES THE BIG PROBLEM; last time this type of thing happened was early 70's. It created a horrible depression with 18% mortgage rates....and hold onto your ankles- recession is a relative certainty, its a matter of to what degree....as its already started.

The worst part; This Dem Admin has no plan. They are parading Harris and Buttigeg around talking up E cars. Kerry is wringing his hands crying Climate Change is still worse than the invasion in Ukraine....and our almighty leader Biden solution to our problems, "Drive Slower"

Trump was a dick, egomaniac and a bully....but he was our bully, and his policy though not perfect was good for Americans [whether they realize it or not] and ABSOLUTELY prevented this Ukraine Disaster. Personally I hope Trump continues to help the American people by moving into the background and consulting on future policy. https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/us-consumer-prices-are-rising-their-fastest-pace-over-40-years If you don't believe me check the latest inflation gauges at the link I provided, Zero Hedge "Consumer prices are rising at the fastest pace in 40 years" Rant over. grin

From: HoXiChen
10-Mar-22
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/high-gas-prices-experts

From: HoXiChen
10-Mar-22
Impediments to cost effective plans due to lack of Russian Oil to the west on markets.

https://americansforprosperity.org/biden-policies-raising-gas-prices/

From: bigeasygator
10-Mar-22
What the Biden excuse makers don't get is that Trumps strategy to incentivize energy independence not only lowered the cost of fuel to Americans

PUTIN LITERALLY COULD AFFORD TO INVADE UNDER TRUMP- a brilliant strategy really

What were these Trump era incentives you're referencing? Curious what you think Trump actually did to keep oil prices low?

last time this type of thing happened was early 70's

The last time what type of thing happened? We saw similar oil price levels in 2008, 2011, and 2014, so not sure what other factors you're saying make this equivalent to the 1970s.

recession is a relative certainty, its a matter of to what degree....as its already started

By what measure has recession started? Not seeing it in any of the economic measures we typically use to gauge a recession (real GDP, real income, employment, industrial production, etc).

Three questions that I'm genuinely interested in the answers to.

From: 'Ike'
10-Mar-22
LMAO and another Bot shows up...This time a Ho!!!

From: 'Ike'
10-Mar-22
"Ike you might help me with a question. I was on a Nilgai hunt last weekend and one of the guys on the hunt asked me whatever happened to the old Ruby ranch property I knew the ranch split and I think you were one of the first hunters on the new part So do you remember what year you killed your blackbuck with Ron Duncan No big deal just trying to put together dates. Thanks"

Would have been 2000/01 on the Onion Ranch...

From: RK
10-Mar-22
Thanks I was actually thinking 1999 but that clears it up

From: Mint
10-Mar-22

Mint's Link
Back in October 2021 Congress called in the oil execs and a bunch of Democrats told them they needed to reduce output. In addition the Biden administration and Democrats has been pushing venture capitalists not to invest in fossil fuel companies. Biden's SEC pick said that she is going to make companies disclose the harmful effect of greenhouse gases that their company's produce in their financial filings. Why in the world would anyone put their $$$ on the line with this open hostility and invest during this administration?

10-Mar-22
ESG scoring also effects investing and willingness of other related industries like insurance and banking to tie themselves to oil and gas.

From: Beendare
10-Mar-22
BEG, You cannot deny Trump had a strategy…and that it worked.

The answers are there for you to research. It only takes a modicum of understanding business and finance to see how Biden completely changed things.

Start researching with the WSJ…or the dept of energy .org for facts.

Whats your guy Bidens strategy for energy independence? Drive slower. Buy an E car? A few renewable projects doesn’t move the needle. No long term solutions from the Dems. The Dems are fumbling around with the sanctions…with Poland, its not only embarrassing but it might just drag us into a war.

TDS cure; Next time you hear someone point fingers at Trump, realize what they are really saying is;” We got nothin, no solutions”

Energy independence; if its not abundantly clear right now that this is crucial……it will to all except John Kerry shortly.

11-Mar-22
It absolutely blows my mind that one post is about policy affecting gas prices. While another claims bidens policy isn’t affecting gas prices. Which is it BEG?

Quit playing semantics with words and timelines. You can’t claim policy doesn’t affect it then Claim bidens policy hasn’t affected it. It’s going to help slam dunk the effect of less supply, less optimism, less everything good and more of everything bad for American households.

Once again, Under the guidance of establishment, America is being held hostage to countries controlling commodities we need. Ain’t that a surprise.

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
BEG, You cannot deny Trump had a strategy…and that it worked.

The answers are there for you to research. It only takes a modicum of understanding business and finance to see how Biden completely changed things.

I work for an oil company and have a pretty good idea how this industry works. I’ve done my research and I’ve experienced it firsthand. I asked three straightforward questions.

How did Trump incentivize the industry like you claimed? The four years under Trump were some of the worst, economically speaking, in my twenty year career. Prices were weak, the industry was essentially on life support delivering poor returns, and Trump’s trade war only made life more difficult. You tout low prices…the only thing keeping prices low was oversupply, and the reason we were oversupplied is because a bunch of companies were on their last legs trying to generate some sort of cash to stay afloat. The price crash that occurred during the pandemic killed them - we had record bankruptcies in the sector. It’s the biggest reason why there’s a massive hesitancy to ramp up production at the moment. So please tell me how the industry was incentivized under Trump.

And again, what is happening now that is more like the 70s than the dates I put forward where prices were equally high?

You also said we’re in the beginning stages of a recession. I asked a simple question. Based on what? It certainly isn’t based on GDP, jobs, output, wages, etc because those are all stronger than they’ve been over the last five years. So what is it? Again, I’ve done the research you’ve somehow arrived at a different conclusion so I’d love to know what you’re seeing.

Whats your guy Bidens strategy for energy independence?

Again, he’s not my guy. I didn’t vote for him and never will. And his energy policy is far worse than Trump’s. But he has next to nothing to do with current prices, just like Trump had next to nothing to do with what was playing out in the oil markets under his watch.

And I’ll ask a fourth question (seeing as you skirted the other three, it’s a big gamble). How do you define energy independence? We were still importing energy products under Trump. It appears that we were slightly a net exporter in 2021. We’re on a trajectory to far exceed any oil and gas production levels we achieved under Trump (and also become a much greater exporter of petroleum products as well). And oil and gas is being replaced more and more by other domestically produced energy sources. So I don’t understand what people mean when they say we lost energy independence, so please enlighten me.

Again, this stuff is literally my life. I research and live it everyday. Your conclusions are not what I see, so I’d legitimately love to know how you arrived at them.

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
It absolutely blows my mind that one post is about policy affecting gas prices. While another claims bidens policy isn’t affecting gas prices. Which is it BEG?

Care to be more specific? For the record, I’ve never said policy doesn’t effect prices. I’ve said the policies under Biden have done little to impact the prices in the short term as they won’t likely impact supply for multiple years (or even decades). If they remain in place, and we see domestic production start to crater years out, then yes, we can point the finger at Biden.

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
This is no different than climate change, experts will read the data to come to the conclusion that best fits their own opinion. Even our resident experts on all things.

May or may not be the case. That said, I don’t see the harm in Beendare asking the questions and showing his work.

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
I’ve posted of supporting information, tbc. Encourage you to go back and look at it. This includes:

- increasing production levels, which will likely exceed record levels reached just prior to the start of the pandemic.

- quotes from multiple CEOs citing ambitions to keep production flat, maintain capital discipline in the face of higher oil prices, and return more money to shareholders.

- capital spending levels which support this assertion

- industry knowledge of the end-to-end oil field lifecycle and thereby the recognition that Biden’s policies targeting oil and gas operations will not impact supply for years to decades, thereby having next to no impact on current prices.

The attached article covers what is truly driving the oil markets over the last few years. It hasn’t been shifts in energy policy.

The primary reason for rising gas prices over the past year is the coronavirus pandemic and its disruptions to global supply and demand.

“Covid changed the game, not President Biden,” said Patrick De Haan, the head of petroleum analysis for GasBuddy, which tracks gasoline prices. “U.S. oil production fell in the last eight months of President Trump’s tenure. Is that his fault? No.

“The pandemic brought us to our knees,” Mr. De Haan added. … Mr. De Haan said the Biden administration was “clearly less friendly” to the industry, which may have indirectly affected investor attitudes. But overall, he said, that stance has played a “very, very small role pushing gas prices up.”

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22

bigeasygator's Link
Forgot to add the article link.

11-Mar-22
No one should be surprised. If you voted for Biden, you sure have no axe to grind, either you were blind or could not read. Biden is doing, has done, and will continue to do, what he campaigned on, from 2019 to the election........ I would have to say, he is doing, what he said he would do............... I guess this is what America wanted,,,,, not me, but I was out voted............................

Nothing is gong to change,,,,, he is not going to open up any leases, or permits, and will continue to hammer the private sector, on regulations, its just that simple,

There are private companies today, that have to rewrite up their permits, because they are not gender correct. Private in Texas is pumping,,,,,,,,,,

The Climate Change crowd, would rather cover their eyes, see the dirty fuel from our enemies, than touch our own, where we doing in cleaner.

Yesterday John Kerry said that Climate change will be worse than the Ukranian war. This is what they believe. I can assure you Wind Mills would not be allowed on Marthas Vineyard, in front of Kerry or Obamas house.............................

From: spike buck
11-Mar-22
Price of gas went down .15 cents overnight in parts of Ontario. A further .06 cents this weekend.

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
Why would American suppliers keep production flat? Probably because of Joe Biden's policies....... Joe Biden is directly responsible for passing an advantage to foreign interests over American interests.

This has been covered ad naseum. It’s because for the last 10-15 years - up to the pandemic - the industry has grown…and shareholders were awarded for that growth with essentially zilch. As Abhiram Rajendran, the head of oil market research at Energy Intelligence, said in the article I posted:

“But presidents, Mr. Rajendran said, “have very little impact on short-term supply.”

“The key relationship to watch is between companies and investors.”

Shareholders have spoken - they don’t want growth. They don’t want capital pumped back into the business. They want it returned to them.

Sure, we want more leases at our disposal for long term security. But those will do nothing in the short term and have little to do with what’s happening now.

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
And I agree with the Tax Foundation’s assessment in your link. For the record, none of those Biden proposals passed.

11-Mar-22
Paul,

Inclined to agree with you, but will admit I am no expert with industry experience like BEG.

Some of the biggest investors in alternative energies are big oil, and like all companies, they will chase profits. Democrat policies for years have changed investment strategies in favor of green. Without these policies, what would the returns and investment in fossils fuels have been, or what would the supply have been today without the market distorting incentives, again mainly supported for decades by Joe’s party which he has been part of for 5 decades?

Jason is probably correct that since coming into office Joe’s policies have not had time to effect the market significantly, but given his votes thru the years he shares in the blame, IMHO and non-professional opinion only.

11-Mar-22
As Abhiram Rajendran, the head of oil market research at Energy Intelligence, said in the article I posted:

Bias source

11-Mar-22
Yeah, you been real quick to point out the short term when discussing Biden. But, forget about the long term. Which is where results from policy is realized.

Like I said before, a game of semantics. Link? Look at your posts. I’ve been watching you distinguish time lines only when it suits your argument. For no other reason then to argue.

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
Biden and the Democrats endgame ....... Kill the industry. Create a never ending cycle of handouts off of increased taxes - let them eat cake

You want to see oil and gas prices go through the roof, pass that piece of legislation. Windfall profit tax would be a terrible idea.

Bias source

Why is Abhiram Rajendran a biased source? I can post the same quote from every other oil market analyst worth their salt.

Yeah, you been real quick to point out the short term when discussing Biden. But, forget about the long term. Which is where results from policy is realized.

I thought we were talking about current gas prices. Are we not? I distinguish timelines because certain things matter in the short term, and certain things matter in the long term.

People keep pointing to Biden’s energy policy - which I agree is terrible - as playing a huge roll in what is happening to gas prices now. It’s not.

We are barely a year removed from Trump being in office. I hate to break it to you, but when it comes to the energy policy and how oil and gas companies are strategizing against that landscape - nothing has really changed from when oil was in the $50/bbl range a year ago. We’ve got rig schedules that are planned out for years that haven’t significantly been adjusted. We’re approaching production levels that peaked pre-pandemic and will likely surpass them this year. In fact, the Energy Secretary was out pleading for a drastic ramp up of production. Highly unlikely oil companies plan to change course to deliver it. It will be too costly and take too long against the backdrop of what most believe is a temporary surge in prices.

You want to blame someone for current gas prices, it’s the pandemic (both the crash and now the growing demand as we recover), look towards shareholders who have pushed for restrained growth, look towards Russia. The Keystone XL and decision on the federal leasing moratorium are so far down the list of things that matter with respect to current prices.

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
Would you expand a business by increasing production just to pay more taxes if you knew the President of the USA and his allied Congress was going to come at you from all directions with the expressed intent of taxing you for political gain?

If you legitimately thought the legislation had a chance of passing, no you wouldn’t. I said it’s a horrible piece of legislation and I give it a snowballs chance in hell of making it into law.

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
And producers know this, and yes, it does have an immediate impact

And what has that immediate reaction from producers been? How have we changed course right now in response to Biden’s policies?

11-Mar-22
And we have not even addressed our farming industry,,,,, they need fertilizer and pot ash,,,,,, along with fuel....................

This year they will struggle, so my food plots do not seem too important

From: Grey Ghost
11-Mar-22
"Without these policies, what would the returns and investment in fossils fuels have been, or what would the supply have been today without the market distorting incentives,..."

Frank, if you don't think the fossil fuel industry has benefitted from subsides for decades, and continues to be, you may want to do a little research on the topic.

The bottom line is our energy markets have always been "distorted" by government "incentives", and will likely always be. That's why the US has historically enjoyed relatively cheap fuel costs. And make no mistake, it will be "Big Oil" leading the way into our energy future, whatever form that may take. After all, they have the resources, infrastructure, and R&D capabilities to make it happen.

Matt

11-Mar-22
Matt,

Aware of it for sure. But the incentives for green distort the market away from fossils and is having an impact on what we pay at the pump.

Not judging it, just I guess stating the obvious, policies have consequences and these policies have basically been a regressive “tax”. It will be a tsunami at the polls this November unless course is reversed soon. Thanks.

From: Beendare
11-Mar-22
BEG,

Trump publicly declared he was making us energy independent- and for a short time he did and it worked to lower the price of oil and keep inflation in check. You cannot argue it didn’t, its a fact that it did.

The price of oil would drop immediately if Biden did a U turn and stated we are pulling out the stops and going to make the US energy independent.

Another fact you don’t seem to understand; Markets are not a simple supply/demand ratio…some of it is perception. We have many examples to draw from.

Another fact; Sometimes these experts are wrong. A financial guy I follow rated it a 30% chance Putin invades- huge fail. Everyone has their own biases they use to make decisions and pronouncements. Its the trait of a critical thinker not to become so convicted in your thinking.

Goldman revised their GDP growth from 3.3% to 1.75% and a 35% chance of a recession. We literally turned on a dime and there is nothing coming from the Biden admin that is going to improve our situation.

THE SCARY PART…and it almost guarantees things are going to get a lot worse is this admins focus. They are not focused on inflation..or rampant crime…or legit immigration policy. Their focus; Harris proclaiming E cars …Buttigeg proclaiming we are installing more E car charging stations….Kerry wringing his hands stating Climate Change is more important than whats going on with Putin/Ukraine.

How are things going to improve when we have an admin that can’t find their ass with both hands?

As I said in the investing thread….we have to look forward and prep for the future. A slowdown is imminent, plan accordingly.

.

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
Trump publicly declared he was making us energy independent- and for a short time he did and it worked to lower the price of oil and keep inflation in check. You cannot argue it didn’t, its a fact that it did.

I will challenge that point. Nobody has provided a consistent or meaningful definition of what it means to be energy independent. Can you define “energy independence?” By what measure did we achieve it?

Goldman revised their GDP growth from 3.3% to 1.75% and a 35% chance of a recession. We literally turned on a dime and there is nothing coming from the Biden admin that is going to improve our situation.

So, Goldman expects us to deliver the same GDP growth that Trump did (it was cut from 2% to 1.75% on Q4 to Q4 basis, not 3.3%), and they see a 65% chance that we don’t fall into a recession. Got it.

I understand plenty about markets and the role of perception. What is the consensus perception on oil prices and oil production over the next few years right now?

From: Grey Ghost
11-Mar-22

Grey Ghost's Link
The US first became a net exporter of petroleum products in 2020. Per the EIA, we remained so in 2021, although the amount of net exports was down from 2020. By that definition, and the most recent data available, we are still "energy independent".

I know that doesn't fit the popular narrative, here, but they are facts.

Matt

From: smarba
11-Mar-22

smarba's embedded Photo
smarba's embedded Photo

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
The US first became a net exporter of petroleum products in 2020. Per the EIA, we remained so in 2021, although the amount of net exports was down from 2020. By that definition, and the most recent data available, we are still "energy independent".

I still think equating the net petroleum trade to energy independence ignores a whole host of other factors that should be part of the independence equation. We became a net exporter in 2020 because we fell deep into recession and consumption dropped to 25 year lows and we did not need the foreign supply. I for the life of me can’t figure out why this is a data point to be celebrated.

From: Grey Ghost
11-Mar-22
BEG, by no means am I celebrating the facts I posted. I agree with you, our net export status had little to do with administrative policy, and more to do with market forces.

It's really not that difficult to understand, IMO. US oil production dropped by 1 billion barrels a day during 2020 and 2021 compared to pre-pandemic levels. That was due to an equal drop in consumption during that period, not because of any new energy policies. Now, demand has suddenly ramped back up to pre-pandemic levels, and production hasn't caught up. As the ConocoPhillips chairman said in the video I posted above, it takes 8-12 months for new production to reach the markets. Combine that with the impact of Russia's production no longer hitting the markets, and we have a major imbalance in the supply/demand formula right now. We can tap into reserve inventories for a few months to ease the pressure on prices some, but that's a short term fix. I hate to say it, but I doubt we'll see a significant drop in prices at the pump until 2023, or maybe longer.

Matt

11-Mar-22
Last post on this…

I can now understand why many get frustrated with a few of us here who might act like we know more than we actually do, thanks to google:-)

Most of the folks here are a little longer in the tooth. They have witnessed market gyrations in different industries over decades and know some have been made worse by bad policy decisions. They are smart enough to piece it all together without the spewing of book smart/industry experience know it alls, including myself. My apologies! Life experiences are the best education.

Hope to relinquish my position on a certain list to someone else.

;-)

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
Frank,

Believing Biden’s energy policies are bad (they are IMO) and believing they aren’t impacting current prices (they aren’t IMO) don’t have to be mutually exclusive beliefs.

I know it’s easy to regurgitate whatever you hear from your politicians about the pain at the pump - energy independence, Keystone XL, etc - but that’s all they are - political talking points, and they mean little when it comes to the dynamics of what is playing out in the market at the moment.

11-Mar-22
The executive branch has tremendous power. Not being the main factor in current prices is one thing. Not doing everything appropriate to fix it is another.

Also, energy policy is only one part of the price. Foreign policy failures have big effect as well.

From: Grey Ghost
11-Mar-22
Frank,

I don't claim to be an expert on the energy markets. However, I do admit to listening, learning, and believing what I hear from people who are. CNBC has become my preferred source for information. During the day, the vast majority of people they interview are corp executives of successful companies, who explain the dynamics of things that affect their businesses. IMO, on balance, they offer an informed perspective without politically biased opinions, and I try to pass that info on. If that earns me "top ten" honors, here, I'll proudly wear that cap.

Have a great day, my friend.

Matt

From: Lawdog
11-Mar-22
Ya"ll know that thread was closed down without the OP even mentioning who he thought made it into the top 10? Now, we're self-appointing. Arguing how this happened is rather pointless. Regular gas was $4.39.9 and diesel was 4.99.9 this morning. That is reality. The rest is theory.

From: Rocky D
11-Mar-22

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This is just another discussion between the left and right and no one is budging.

Here are two prime examples of perspective! I wonder why we are so divided!

From: Beendare
11-Mar-22
BEG, You say you understand that ‘Perception’ is a factor in market pricing. That contradicts what you previously argued and quoted some supposed expert that claims the President has no effect on the price of oil.

Of course the president can affect oil.

We have a current admin with skewed priorities. We were headed to higher inflation and recession already, the Ukraine situation only exacerbated it.

AAA did a study; 59% of people say they will adjust their lifestyle at $4 gas. 75% say they will adjust for sure at $5 gas. Its a relative certainty its going to affect folks, especially the lower and middle class. Diesel here is bumping between $6.69-$7. Gas at $6+. We don’t need tea leaves to see this is going to be bad.

I’m no econ expert but the signs are there. An admin that is clueless. The Dems pushed a huge spending bill through- today- totally ignoring inflation- no cure in sight. The reps are no better, capitulating.

The economists and financial gurus are perennial optimists- they always underestimate these downturns. Be careful who you listen to especially risking real money.

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From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
BEG, You say you understand that ‘Perception’ is a factor in market pricing. That contradicts what you previously argued and quoted some supposed expert that claims the President has no effect on the price of oil.

Never have I ever said perceptions don’t matter. You’re putting words in my mouth. What I’ve said I’m saying is that for the oil companies who have to base their strategies on actions being taken by the administration, the people trading oil, and for people whose job it is to assess their impact on the oil markets, the overwhelming perception is the administration’s actions won’t do much to move prices in the short term. Furthermore, there’s really nothing he can do domestically that will provide any relief.

Why do you keep avoiding the questions I’ve asked? How about answering just one…how would you define energy independence? Still waiting on someone to adequately define it.

From: Z Barebow
11-Mar-22
I cannot sit on the sidelines any more. Can the president control the short term prices of gas? No. Can an administration affect the long term approach to fossil fuel exploration/production? YES.

There are many elements to fossil fuel production. (Exploration, transport, refining, etc) When it comes to exploration, the industry has ALWAYS been volatile. (I grew up in what is now the heart of the Bakken oil fields. ) We aren't like Louisiana. The oil economy pivots on exploration. (Not refining) We only have one small refinery in the state. Prior to Dakota Access Pipeline, the oil from Bakken was sold at a discount. (~$7 per barrel as memory serves) Trains were primary transport from much of 201x's. But we still need many more pipelines. (Our oil has lots of natural gas.) Due to insufficient pipeline capacity, we are flaring off gas. (10-15% of all extracted gas) (Yes the same gas which runs your stove, heats your water, or runs your power plant) We have giant bunsen burners across the oil fields. Why is this worth noting? What is one greatest initiatives of this administration? (And Obama admin) Being green.

What oil companies hate is sharp valleys or spikes. They prefer consistency. Remember what I said about long term certainty? No oil exploration or fossil fuel transportation company is going to investing in infrastructure (Drilling or pipelines) unless the long term packback (>10 years) is there.

The regulatory environment and anti fossil fuel rhetoric of the Obama administration (and now Biden) is a wet blanket on pipeline construction and exploration. Whether it is felt in other parts of the country, I don't know. But I can tell you in ND the moment Trump was elected, the wet blanket was removed. (Moreso psychological) Did I vote for Trump? Yes. Is he he loud mouth blowhard who says [email protected] sh!t and cannot keep his cakehole shut? YES! But from a policy standpoint, oil exploration and pipeline construction companies had greater confidence their projects would reach maturity. The pandemic (tied to lack demand) derailed that momentum.

Oil companies (all facets ) have cash on hand. Could they spend it? Yes. Will they (on industry expansion)? No. Can they borrow money to expand production? No. Why. Long term economic uncertainty. Same as companies are reluctant to spend on capital expenditures, lending institutions will not borrow money to these companies because they see the same politically stifling long term outlook the companies do. So they take cash on hand and and channel it to shareholders.

Today, we have an administration which still continues to worship at the alter of the green movement at the expense of encouraging domestic exploration, transportation and refining. So much so the administration is willing to court different totalitarian countries for oil.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-biden-business-europe-saudi-arabia-f30cd495adf6a7c58b269d508f3007b2

https://www.kvrr.com/2022/03/07/burgum-biden-plan-to-buy-oil-from-venezuela-iran-absolutely-absurd/

The #1 thing the US could do for long term economic and national security is take the gloves off domestic exploration, transportation and production. Putin (Who is a thug) was laughing while the west was worshipping a teenage Swedish girl. We need to learn from Putin's approach. (Again, he is a commie A Hole who needs a sudden case of lead poisoning) He got western Europe addicted to Russia' oil/gas supplies. How can the US buy oil from this commie? Because our domestic policies and regulation is so F'd up it makes more sense (economically) for refineries to buy from the commie. The US (and moreso Europe) has been stupid enough to go down this path once. Are we stupid enough to hitch our cart to foreign supplies again? Sadly, yes. (Again, how the current president can affect the market/supply) The current admin refuses to even acknowledge they are on the wrong road. Much less have the balls to reverse course.

I covered a lot of real estate. Hopping off my soap box. I didn't know I was going to be this good today! LOL!

From: Mint
11-Mar-22
Back in 2007 Pelosi blamed the high gas prices on "the two oil men in the Whitehouse" but now she keeps quiet. The simple truth is that when Biden and the Democrats keep saying they want to eliminate "subsidies" to the oil industry that deters investment. Subsidies to the oil industry let it take deductions sooner rather than later and EVERY major industry has them. As a CPA for 30 years I understand that Biden and the Democrats are full of it. If the "Green industry" had only the oil subsidies every single company would be out of business since there would be very little demand for their products. The oil companies are only one part, fracking is another part and helped bring down the price of gas. Some of the fracking was not profitable with the real low price of oil in 2020 and will start to ramp up again, the problem is Biden will not let them frack on Federal lands just like New York state will not allow Fracking on private lands. Yes, oil is a global commodity and the more supply the better and the huge reserves found in Guyana is a big plus. Energy independence to me means that we produce more than we use in the US and we have the ability to refine it as well. Sure it is a global commodity and that might not drop the price depending on the world usage but if the sh!% hits the fan we can have our own supply. I'm all for green too, why we don't build more nuclear plants is beyond me since that gives abundant clean energy. I wish solar and wind were the answer but they are not and the elites are making big money off us taxpayers. I bought a house with a solar lease and I am not saving a cent in total cost of electricity. Hopefully in the future technology will make it happen. Until that time ?I wish Biden and the Democrats would stop attacking oil, natural gas and coal production.

From: Z Barebow
11-Mar-22
Mint: RE Fracking. As you may know, fracking technology is what spurred the boom in Bakken. I can show you acres of exploration company. (Plural companies) equipment sitting in farmers fields, rusting away. Because production/profitability line of the cost per barrel here is around $50-$60 per barrel, the exploration companies quit drilling when oil dropped. (Understand, this started happening during the prior administration. And before pandemic)

With todays oil prices why don't they drill? They cannot turn on a dime. The bulk of the workers were from out of state. They moved. How hard is it to hire today? (in any occupation!)

I agree with you on nuclear. But why is a plant permit the same cost ($5M) whether it is a "standard" plant or one of the small plants? (IE What Gates is trying to build in Wyoming) Because the political class wants it that way. (Full disclosure. I was a subcontractor at a nuke plant for 20 years)

The bulk of the green movement is a religion. If you are not on board with their preachings, you are a heretic and you are to be shunned by the believers.

From: drycreek
11-Mar-22
To bolster Z’s argument about the workers. ^^^^ I personally know guys who quit the oilfield simply because it is so up and down. They liked the money, but they couldn’t hold onto it and thought it was gonna be forever. It wasn’t ever and it’s never gonna be, so if you want to work there you have to plan accordingly. Most people won’t. Even if the rigs are stacked on the yard it takes trained personnel to run them, and right now there’s a shortage of trained people to do any job in the oilfield. I remember in the eighties when many drilling rigs were sold for scrap iron. Scrap iron ! What goes around……..

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
Z, agree with pretty much everything that you posted. Will add that there is plenty of E&P here in Louisiana (and pretty much the rest of the Gulf Coast). In fact, that’s all I’ve ever worked (supporting deepwater exploration, drilling, and production).

With that said, the oil industry under Trump was skating by. As we’ve discussed, the ROI was generally terrible across the entirety of the industry - particularly at $50/bbl. Yes, there were bright spots, but you saw what happened once prices fell. The industry got hammered. Biden can take the gloves off, but it’s not really going to change anything from a producer perspective. There are plenty of idled rigs and plenty of permitted activity that is going to stay sidelined.

Drycreek’s comment about labor is spot on too - we laid off about 40% of this industry over the last five years. You can just flip a switch and turn back on that capability. Even if you could, there’s major hesitation about growing too, big too fast.

No one thinks prices are going to stay above $100/bbl for long. Most companies are still screening projects WAY below $100/bbl. If it’s profitable at say $50/bbl, everything else is just upside. Last thing you want to do is start ramping up and bringing the marginal projects on (those that are profitable above, say, $90/bbl), only to have prices drop out of the sky again.

Been there, done that. Shareholders are making sure we don’t make the same mistake again.

From: Beendare
11-Mar-22
Good post Z.

Do we really have to define Energy independence for you BEG?

We could put a small surcharge on the oil we have to help fund the build out of a reliable grid with Nuclear and Renewables.

Nuclear is not the same as the reactors built 40 yrs ago- technology has come a long way. Compare a 1980's car to one of today...night and day difference.

.

11-Mar-22
Mod’s please zap the 8% thing…

11-Mar-22
Why did wind power go from zero to 70,000 turbines in 40 years? Is it that profitable compared to traditional methods?

From: bigeasygator
11-Mar-22
Do we really have to define Energy independence for you BEG?

Yes. If it’s being a net exporter of petroleum products, that’s a terrible metric to measure the health of our domestic energy supply. We were a net exporter in 2021 and likely going to be a net exporter in 2023. Are y’all gonna applaud Biden when that happens again?

He has essentially nothing to do with it and it doesn’t mean much at the end of the day, but the way y’all fawn over Trump for this country being a net exporter in 2020 (in a year when domestic consumption hit 25 year lows and oil production dropped by a million barrels a day), I can’t wait to see what happens when we hit all time production records and are a net exporter of petroleum in 2023.

Does that mean Biden will have redelivered energy independence?

From: LBshooter
11-Mar-22
Glunt, the reason as I see it is because the government got involved with subsidies. Just like the college loan scandal, government take over and anyone gets money to get a degree in whatever they want regardless If their career will earn them enough to payback the loans. Colleges saw the opportunity to raise tuition and took full advantage.

From: LBshooter
11-Mar-22
Glunt, the reason as I see it is because the government got involved with subsidies. Just like the college loan scandal, government take over and anyone gets money to get a degree in whatever they want regardless If their career will earn them enough to payback the loans. Colleges saw the opportunity to raise tuition and took full advantage.

From: Michael
12-Mar-22
Glunt,

I can’t say if wind is more profitable then other energy sources. But I have worked in wind construction since the late 90’s. A lot has changed in that industry over the years. We went from putting up .75 MW units in the 90’s to 5 MW units today. Hub heights in the 90’s were around 60 meters. Now days projects are looking at hub heights in the 130 meter range. The higher you go the more wind you have.

There are numerous variables that control investors ROI. Turbine type, maintenance contracts, PPA’s, land leases etc. The investors I have talked to are looking for a 7% ROI after 30 years.

12-Mar-22
What is the ROI when the units start to "kick" the bucket around 20 years; not your 30? NYS wind outfits have to return the wind fields back to 'as were' condition when the lifetime of the field ends? Lets be frank.....it is NOT currently possible to 'wind,solar,EV your way out of the necessity to have fossil fuel generation of electricity. I don't care what timeline you put on it. You will kill the key transportation that links this country...tractor trailers. Hydrogen would help but most current hydrogen generation requires electricity...Duh... I will not live very much longer; thus I will not see the decline and fall of this country as it has already started....that's HISTORY.

From: TonyBear
12-Mar-22
Biden has nothing to do with the energy issues? Right just like API has changed its tune and is fully supportive of alternative energy sources.

People have absolutely no clue on how much we use petroleum for energy and non-energy product needs in the US.

Elections have consequences, Joe is doing exactly what he proposed, just like his opponents will swing it the other way if they get elected. Some are saying the mid-terms will be a white wash for the Dems(if it's a fair election).

I just drove through Iowa yesterday, the majority of the wind turbines had to be shut down due to the high winds, So cold isn't the only issue that will shut down that type of "green energy" grid. Petroleum is then the backup (below zero again today). Global warming for mid-March...what is the optimum temperature of the Earth again???

From: Beendare
12-Mar-22
Diesel holding here at $6.69- for the last 2 days anyway

Its going to add $1,000 a month to my one companies Direct OH…and apx another $1,000 in material cost surcharges. According to Biden I am supposed to eat that and not pass it on to Clients.

Record inflation that many young guys here have not seen in their lifetime, Mr Biden…Whats your plan?

Driving slower hasn’t moved the needle…..

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12-Mar-22
My gas bill this last week, for my work trucks, hit almost $600. Thats local driving.

From: Woods Walker
12-Mar-22
May as well change the name of this country to the "United States Of Chicago/Baltimore/New York", or any of the other DEMOCRAT run s*** h***s.

And guess what gang? IT'S JUST BEGINNING!!!! A year from now this will seem like the good 'ol days.

Democrats couldn't run diarrhea.

From: bigeasygator
12-Mar-22

bigeasygator's Link
This article about sums it up.

Oil companies regularly lose money. In four of the past ten years, the oil industry lost money. Big oil lost $76 billion just two years ago. Therefore, they are proceeding with caution. They are maintaining more capital discipline. They aren’t rushing to do projects with the assumption that oil prices will remain above $100/bbl. They are doing projects with the assumption that in a year or more when the projects might pay off, oil prices will have retreated to well below $100/bbl.

12-Mar-22
Diesel actually dropped here, holding right at $6…I think we’re suppose to be happy, thanks Joe! You ol bastage! Go play in the road and take Nancy with you….

From: BowenAero
12-Mar-22

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BowenAero's embedded Photo

12-Mar-22
My neighbors have farms to run, to feed the nation, most of you, including the President are brain dead

From: Bake
12-Mar-22
$5 diesel today in Springfield, Missouri. I don’t know the solution, but someone needs to find one.

If North America has oil that’s not being exploited, that seems like a good place to start.

From: Native Okie
12-Mar-22
100% Jason. I’ve been in the downstream industry for 17 years, we don’t set prices and frankly Uncle Sam gets twice the cut we do. We spend most of our capital on new tightened regulations that are tied to climate change theory. In recent years well over half our capital has went towards regulatory related projects. The industry has spent 100’s of millions in marginal gains for regulatory purposes.

For those that think the Keystone “XL” would of fixed this are wrong. That was only the final leg from Cushing to the Gulf. Those refiners would of benefited from the better price feed stocks.

Refineries are not real profitable assets right now. They are hard to run, expensive and come with high risk. Shell divested 100% of their assets the last two years. The RFS which requires ethanol blending costs these companies millions annually. You know why? Because the rule was implemented when we though we needed to blend ethanol to save oil. Who pays for that? All of us.

So ask yourself, why do we still blend ethanol? Politics, simply politics.

If any of you have noticed, nobody is building “new” refineries if anything the number is getting smaller.

From: Woods Walker
12-Mar-22
I like that horse! Maybe has a little draft blood in him? We have two horses at our place and I was thinking of maybe having to do the same! Looks like he "marked his spot" too!

12-Mar-22
Prepare for a new bounce up, as Iran fired missiles into Iraq tonight near US facilities…SMH

From: Woods Walker
12-Mar-22
Oh don't worry, Biden will send "giggles" Harris over there to straighten them out.

Lord help us!!!

From: Beendare
13-Mar-22
My life long Democrat neighbor has gone from making excuses for the current crop on Dem politicians…to admitting they are screwing things up. A promising sign for elections down the road.

The immediate future looks bleak for more inflation with no viable solutions from any of our politicians, Dem or Reps.

They all piled in on the $1.5trillion bill last week- 600 add ons jacking that up is only going to exacerbate inflation. NY’s Schumer added 59 all by himself- shameful! They are spending like a bunch of drunken sailors ( my apologies to all sailors)

I’m positioned in energy, mining and commodity ETFs, not so much to make money but to hedge the losses we are sure to see in everything else. I did buy a 2x inverse ETF on the European index last week on the uptick which surprisingly has yet to payoff in a big way, its only been a few days. Im 50% in cash and a bunch of tech stocks and ETFs are in my buy range but I’m on hold. As I said in the previous stock thread, I think its going to get worse for the US economy and it could get a lot worse.

If anyone has ideas on how to hedge the upcoming recession, Im all ears. Installing a Diesel tank at my construction yard is not an option.

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14-Mar-22
I found gas for $0.10/gallon & $1.41/gallon this week.

Unfortunately it was in Venezuela and Russia.

From: Michael
14-Mar-22
Just filled up the Tundra in Fergus Falls, Mn. $3.89 a gallon.

$116 to fill it. I love my truck but I hate it. Lol

From: BowenAero
14-Mar-22

From: RK
14-Mar-22
Micheal. Know how you feel. Filled my 18 tundra sat. 114.00 Terrible gas mileage but I love the truck. Gas came down 5 cents today on the Third coast

From: Beendare
14-Mar-22
Dang those Democrats have become the party of excuses. Started with blaming Bush, then Trump…now blame it on Putin- its never Dem policy responsible for Inflation (over 7% before the Putin invasion) high crime, floods of illegal immigrants, etc. Sad to see how far they have fallen.

FUEL; Its holding at $5.99 for regular 87 octane here, $6.69 diesel

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From: Mule Power
14-Mar-22

Mule Power's embedded Photo
Mule Power's embedded Photo
No honey I think that’s our economy!

From: Grey Ghost
15-Mar-22
"Going to $190-200brl near as i can tell."

Hey, Shawn Magyar, did you notice crude futures are around $96/barrel this morning? That's just a little shy of your prediction. LOL!

Matt

From: Scrappy
15-Mar-22

Scrappy's embedded Photo
Scrappy's embedded Photo
Reality

From: BowenAero
15-Mar-22

From: bigeasygator
15-Mar-22
Hey, Shawn Magyar, did you notice crude futures are around $96/barrel this morning?

Down ~30% from peak in just a week. Future contracts at year end going for closer to $80-85/bbl. This volatility is why you’ll see continued capital discipline on the part of the oil industry.

From: azelkhntr
15-Mar-22
The Saudis and the UAE are not taking slow joes calls. The Saudis are seriously considering only trading their oil in the Yaun. If that happens the dollar will be near worthless. Hard to believe it's worth much now as is. Farmers cant make a living at these fuel prices and will park their equipment. Better get some staples in the pantry.

From: Krieg
15-Mar-22
Hahaha

Omicron in China dropping demand. China shutting down and locking up. That would be just like part my quote like FNN! Guess you like that assessment?

Our Top General Mark Milley told congress and the world Russia would take Ukraine in 3 days! This guy is Military counsel to Potus!!

Does not bother me a bit the folks wont have to 10/gal gas thanks to Chinese Omicron.

Do very well when oil stays at 50 or over.

With Raskin out of Fed Chair position now. Fossils fuels are much safer for all. Thank Joe Manchin!

Funny how Russia sanctioned sanctioned Milley, Hillary, Joebama, Austin, Hunter.

Thank goodness oil prices are coming down.

From: KSflatlander
15-Mar-22
"I was wrong...again" would have summed it up.

From: Beendare
15-Mar-22
We were fishing in the SF bay out of Emeryville and when we got back to my buddies new Ram pickup, there was fuel all over the ground. His 36g tank was empty. WTF? Someone drilled a hole in the plastic gas tank to fill their gas can…and then let the rest just run out on the ground.

Its worth having a tube of 5200, the marine sealant in your truck around here.

From: RK
15-Mar-22
ks lots of people were wrong, Always are.

Some of you need to go get shawn exorcised from living rent free in some of your heads. Kind of embarrassing I would think

From: Krieg
15-Mar-22
Guys are pulling up in 250 Vans over the fuel station filling tank caps. Drill or cut thru from bottom of van and filling 200-400gal fuel cels in the van.

Lots of folks getting plastic tanks punched in cities while they are at work. Time to put a 1/4” steel skid plate around bottom of tank!

Flex seal baby. Get you home!

From: Krieg
15-Mar-22
Thats good RK.

Cuz the Gvt thought giving 100% and then some for so long they do let me live Rent Free.

Then of course i took care the rest. Lets see what market does after the Fed chairs two day conference? The car i have in Hawaii has a 10gal tank EV hybrid. Think ive burned two gallons in 250 miles. Perfect timing for highest has blip in history.

By time i get back maybe the cChinese Omicron be bad enough itll drop oil demand like Covid did?

Drop it lolw low so we all can hit the High Country with single strings in September!

From: elkmtngear
15-Mar-22

elkmtngear's embedded Photo
elkmtngear's embedded Photo
And, while we were (and still are) struggling, Congress handily slipped themselves a double-digit raise into the 2,700 page Omnibus Bill. Largest raise (21 percent), since it was permitted in 1996 (wasn't that Bill Clinton's term)?

Inflation is just for "regular" people...this Congress thing sounds like a really great gig!

From: Grey Ghost
15-Mar-22
RK, you’re right, I get far too much enjoyment from pointing out Shawn’s idiotic predictions and hypocrisies. They’re obvious for anyone who is paying attention, after all. I’ll try to work on that.

Matt

From: Krieg
15-Mar-22
Hard to a single string legend off yer frontal lobe, huh?

See you at Worlds this summer? Dollar a point ? $20 a point in shoot-offs Titterbaby? Single strings only in WV?

Liver shots may get you an 8 at elk sized targets?.

From: RK
15-Mar-22
No Matt. I have to disagree

Shawn bothers you and some others. Which in a free country is ok

But there is not much enjoyment that is evident in your posts to Shawn

No worries either way. He ain't going anywhere and you and others will continue to care about that

On another subject that actually counts. When do you head for Florida to chase Tarpon? Did you get the live bait artificial worked out? I still have problems with redfish on artificials. Live bait is easy but I just can't make the soft baits work on the big ones. Trout all day long, LOL !

15-Mar-22
Hey Beendare, Gruesome is going to give us a Gas Card....Lol

From: Grey Ghost
15-Mar-22
Case in point,RK. Who’s living rent free, again?

Matt.

From: KSflatlander
15-Mar-22
From calling other posters phones to racist posts to bragging about being a part of the January 6 riots to attacking other poster’s family members…Shawn deserves all the grief he gets. He’s been banned over +50 times for good reason. Bowsite does have sponsors.

A complete narcissist. Look at his last post.

From: RK
15-Mar-22
GG. Sorry missed that one. No worries. In reality none of this matters. Nonsense at best. I hate when I get caught up thinking anything different. When I get bored this stuff seems fun. But it really is not. Filler between life's events. LOL !

From: RK
15-Mar-22
KS. Could be true. Why are you wasting your time with it. He owns you There are hundreds of people that meet those criteria. You worried about them also??

From: KSflatlander
15-Mar-22
“There are hundreds of people that meet those criteria.”

So that makes ok? Just accept it? Maybe people need to stand up to the unempathetic BS behavior and call it out. Maybe the world would be a better place and there wouldn’t be so much division in this country if people call it out. If you stay silent with the divisive rhetoric then your are part of the problem as much as those that push divisions IMO.

From: RK
15-Mar-22
I'm out KS. Good Luck to you

From: KSflatlander
15-Mar-22
You too RK

From: Beendare
18-Mar-22
Diesel back over $7 here in the east bay today, Regular gas is $6.19.

18-Mar-22
Gruesome and Dems shot down chance to resend the ‘gas tax’ here! #ucknewsom

20-Mar-22
We need to do what we can to cut ties with bad guys quickly and import oil from friendly places (like our neighbor to the north) while we also encourage production of our own energy. Not just to be energy independent. We should go beyond that to be a supplier to the world market. It would be a win for our economy, our security, our friends and the environment. We extract cleaner than a lot of the world does. I don't want price controls but fuel is what drives our country and we need to make affordable fuel a priority. We may get to a place where renewables replace fossil fuels but we certainly won't do it if we become an unsecure country with a poor economy.

The things we are doing are the opposite of solutions. Its not incompetence. There's plenty of that in government but we are far beyond just making stupid decisions. Normal goals like America being free, prosperous, secure, a great ally and a terrible enemy aren't shared by people making decisions for us.

From: Woods Walker
20-Mar-22
The only goal Biden has is making sure he gets to Delaware on the weekend with his ice cream cone. He's pathetic.

20-Mar-22
Glunt...well spoken!!!....3x

20-Mar-22
Glunt nailed it again.

From: BC173
20-Mar-22
Glunt for the win!!

21-Mar-22

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'Ike' (Phone)'s embedded Photo

From: Beendare
23-Mar-22
Biden and the Dems doing more to jack the price of gas; Biden couldn’t get his BBB through so he and Eliz Warren are attacking the oil companies through the SEC filings, article on Zero Hedge.

Then the Dem geniuses in Congress are proposing printing money to give people a rebate ( blatant pandering for votes and sure to make inflation worse. Hey dumbasses, you kicked off inflation with your last free money handout during Covid)

Another proposal is to jack the oil companies taxes for their gouging which is an obvious, “ don’t look at our crummy policy, look at THEM)

With idiots like this running the country it’s going to be a miracle if we don’t go into a major recession.

23-Mar-22
Guys laughed at me, months ago, when I said, it would go 130..... Its on the Futures market, its a dice game, 40 years ago, single and young, I made and loss money on Futures, but I could afford it..... My sister was a commodity broker, she was a millionaire that went into real estate,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Still there are those that think the Oil Companies set the price,,,,, I will bet a dollar, most of Washington politicians, on both sides, still think this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, dumb asses

From: Woods Walker
23-Mar-22
And most of them have never had a real job either, but yet they think they can tell those of us who've actually had, how we should do things. Classic case of this was Obama telling us that if we, "Had a business, we didn't build that, someone else did it for us." Good advice from a "Community organizer".

Now we have Gropin' Joe, who's been a DC hack for his entire working life. What could possibly go wrong?

I'll take mean tweets ANYDAY!!!

24-Mar-22

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#uckbiden

From: bigeasygator
24-Mar-22

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The Dallas Fed is out with their Q1 2022 Energy Survey questions. They polled 139 oil and gas executives to get a read on the market. Lots of good data on what's going on in the domestic O&G industry, including industry economics and break-even prices, production plans, labor outlook, etc. Also, lots of good comments in at the end of the survey.

When asked for the primary reason publicly traded oil producers are restraining growth, pressure to maintain capital discipline was overwhelmingly at the top of the list (~60% of respondents labeled it as the main reason). Government regulations came in last on the list with ~5% of respondents saying they're the primary reason for the lack of production growth.

From: Grey Ghost
24-Mar-22
C'mon BEG, are you telling me you're gonna believe oil and gas executives over the Bowsite experts? You foolish lad. ;-)

Matt

From: bigeasygator
24-Mar-22
You’re right, Matt. I’m sure they’re part of the #deepstate and are just working with the Biden administration to downplay the impact of new regulations in an effort to sabotage their own industry.

From: Beendare
24-Mar-22
BEG, You keep trying to find excuses for Biden. At the root of all this is his policy.

Of course oil execs are worried about Capital discipline…don’t you realize that is politically driven? Biden could drop the price of oil with a simple policy switch- Nope, instead he is going to unleash high prices and more inflation on the avg person.

Now; Giving $400 checks for gas rebates like the IDIOT proposal from Newsome is only going to juice inflation and do nothing to help gas prices….

Unfortunately, many voters aren’t smart enough to see whats happening here………and they are easily fooled.

.

From: Grey Ghost
24-Mar-22
Exactly which "policy switch" would result in a drop of the price of oil in the near future?

Matt

From: bigeasygator
24-Mar-22
BEG, You keep trying to find excuses for Biden. At the root of all this is his policy.

His policies are terrible. I’m not making excuses for them. I’m saying - along with the vast majority of oil executives - that they have very little to do with the current supply situation in the country. You, for some reason, continue to fight this fact despite people far more in the know telling you this is what is driving the current situation.

Of course oil execs are worried about Capital discipline…don’t you realize that is politically driven?

This has nothing to do with politics. It has everything to do with shareholder expectations and the fact that the industry generated terrible returns to their investors while in growth mode from 2010-2020.

Biden could drop the price of oil with a simple policy switch

And what policy switch would instantly bring millions of new barrels to market in the next few months?

From: LBshooter
24-Mar-22
Now the ever so wise democrats want to give gas money to those who need the assistance. So they want to put more money to the economy, and keep inflation raging. Another way to look at it, is democrats who in their ignorance caused the rise in oil do to their dumb and misguided policies want to continue to make bad policy, god help us.

From: Grey Ghost
24-Mar-22
Gas money stimulus checks are a terrible idea. That said, how many of you tore up your Covid stimulus checks?

Matt

From: bigeasygator
24-Mar-22
Gas money stimulus checks are a terrible idea. That said, how many of you tore up your Covid stimulus checks?

Glunt seemed to be jealous of the gas prices in Russia and Venezuela in his post further up, so there's likely at least one person on here in favor of government subsidized gasoline.

From: bigeasygator
24-Mar-22

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Here’s what current contracts are going for. Nowhere near as bullish on price than what you’re showing Shawn.

From: Beendare
24-Mar-22
Heres a stat for all of us.

Independent producers, defined by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) as those with less than $5 million in annual retail oil and gas sales or with less than an average of 75,000 barrels of crude oil refined on a daily basis, are responsible for producing 83 percent of America’s oil and 90 percent of America’s natural gas. Unlike their larger corporate rivals such as Exxon, these comparatively small producers are ill-equipped to adapt to the cascade of taxes and regulations from the Biden administration to keep their operations sustainable. (comment from these small producers) “There are 4,621 permits to drill awaiting approval by the Department of Interior’s Bureau of Land Management. Your appointees could approve these permits now, enabling communities to [move] forward with development,” the coalition wrote. “So, yes, Mr. President, your administration is ‘holding the industry back’ in direct contradiction to your statements last week when you said your administration was not… We stand ready to assist in any way possible.” [Article From The Federalist, "Smaller Oil And Gas Producers Blast Biden’s Blame Game On High Energy Prices"]

UNBELIEVABLE; The Biden admin didn't invite input from the folks responsible for 83% of the supply....thats good leadership? Heck, they don't even understand the problems they are creating......

Biden had an E car summit...and didn't invite Tesla. Anybody seeing a trend here?

It reeks of the Obama quote, "You didn't build this" and the Dems prevailing loathing of business in America.

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From: bigeasygator
24-Mar-22
And where are those 4,000 permits located, Beendare? And how are they different than the 9,000 approved permits that are currently not being used to increase production? If all 4,000+ permits were approved tomorrow, where are the capital, rigs, and workers to execute these projects going to come from? You realize only about 10% of oil and gas production in this country is subject to the federal regulations you keep blaming prices on, right? There’s a reason there’s a huge backlog of industry projects - it has more to do with industry’s desire to execute them than it does regulation holding them up.

And Shawn, you clearly need to do more research to understand the relationship between spot and future prices. You do realize they converge as they reach the future contract’s delivery date, don’t you?

From: Beendare
24-Mar-22
BEG, your TDS is off the chart....I thought you were "An industry insider".

You post a Market Watch internet chart like that tells the story-OMG, Dude, its embarrassing.

The Capital issues you copied are POLICY RELATED.....you don't seem to be getting any of this. Granted its a complex issue and Biden and the Dem's in Congress are only part of the problem....but they are a big part.

Please explain; How is the democrat solution of giving out Billions to people going to solve the fuel crisis and high prices without Juicing inflation?

From: 70lbDraw
24-Mar-22
“And how are they different than the 9,000 approved permits that are currently not being used to increase production?”

From what I understand, those permits are approved but they’re in the “less than desireable” locations, so there isn’t much value in drilling on those permits. Hence the lack of desire to execute them.

From: bigeasygator
24-Mar-22
You post a Market Watch internet chart like that tells the story-OMG, Dude, its embarrassing.

That chart had nothing to do with you. It was directed at Shawn’s prove predictions, which are way more bullish than what the market thinks.

The Capital issues you copied are POLICY RELATED.....you don't seem to be getting any of this.

I encourage you to stop listening to politicians and start listening to company executives, industry analysts, and institutional investors as they are the ones whose voice matters on this. It has nothing to do with politics. Investors don’t want free cash dumped into growth - they want it returned to them.

Please explain; How is the democrat solution of giving out Billions to people going to solve the fuel crisis and high prices without Juicing inflation?

I never said it would solve anything. I think it’s a bad idea.

From what I understand, those permits are approved but they’re in the “less than desireable” locations, so there isn’t much value in drilling on those permits. Hence the lack of desire to execute them.

And hence my comment about the unapproved permits. It’s very likely that even if they were approved tomorrow they’d sit unused like those 9,000 permits. Some would be deemed not great opportunities. For the attractive ones, companies would very likely pace investment (again, capital discipline) in a way that left them more resilient to any future price shocks and kept employment and other supply chain variables stable.

From: TRnCO
24-Mar-22
One thing that is holding the oil drillers/producers back is man power. They downsized/laid off such a huge numbers of laborers do to covid and low oil demand that it'll take time for them to re-hire and train enough staff to get oil rigs back in motion. And a lot of those rigs have been sitting idle for a couple years and will probably need service to even put them in motion costing man power, time, and money. But do they, the oil companies, dare stick their necks out and go full motion into doing those things when they have an administration that is not friendly, who from all sides, seem to be the enemy to all things oil?

From: Grey Ghost
24-Mar-22
Shawn posts spot market oil prices, and claims they are the definitive forecast of future oil prices. Too funny.

Matt

24-Mar-22

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Don’t worry, we’re in good hands…Ol Joe will get us out of this!

From: RK
24-Mar-22
Yes he will ! He is the Scranton Scrapper ! LMAO !!!

25-Mar-22

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From: bigeasygator
25-Mar-22
Shawn posts spot market oil prices, and claims they are the definitive forecast of future oil prices. Too funny.

*Predicted* spot prices. And after one day, they’re already off 8%.

26-Mar-22
Bounced from $5.99 to $6.25 today! Nice…I did hear Saudi had something happen, a huge explosion at a refinery…Didn’t think we were getting anything from them though!

31-Mar-22
The big guy is opening the National Reserve…Finally! To little, to late…

31-Mar-22
Opening the reserves won't help much and eventually when we change teams we have to refill it.

He did propose more financial penalties on producers which should make prices drop...hey...wait a second????

From: Woods Walker
31-Mar-22
25th Amendment...NOW!!!!!!!!

31-Mar-22
Glunt, for the best posts of 2022 so far. It isn’t even debatable. Someone second me and we’ll call it a wrap.

From: Woods Walker
31-Mar-22
X2!

From: JJjr
31-Mar-22
The 25th is in full open use in remarks now on the Networks.

Worst quarter on markets in two years.

New tax increase in budget would be largest ever in US history

NG double in price, Oil tripled in price, helium has sky rocketed in price

New budget wants to tax fossil fuels even more

new Polls for Joseph Biden at 35-39%

Powell refuses to raise rates the required 5% over current inflation rate to curb it and are still printing QE money.

This is about as bad as American's have ever seen it in 90 years

Wants to remove title 42 right during the high illegal migrant travel season.

JJ jr

From: Beendare
31-Mar-22
Didnt Trump push for the Energy dept to purchase oil for the SOR when the price of oil was around $30/ barrel?

There are so many examples of Trump making strategic pro active moves…where this current admin is totally ‘Finger to the Wind’ reactive.

31-Mar-22
Beendare as runner up!

From: Woods Walker
31-Mar-22

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We need a 25th Amendment that covers ALL the Democrats currently in office!

These hacks couldn't run diarrhea! Just look at any Democrat run state or major city....clusterfarces....EVERY one of them!

31-Mar-22
I just listened to, both advisors, from Obama and past years from Clinton, CNBC buisness news,,,, even they think Biden is nuts

From: bigeasygator
31-Mar-22

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Didnt Trump push for the Energy dept to purchase oil for the SOR when the price of oil was around $30/ barrel?

He did, but it was meant as more of a handout to the producers getting hammered during the pandemic as an attempt to keep them afloat. Still ended up with record oil company bankruptcies under his watch.

“The small to midsize oil producers, which are the focus of the initial crude oil purchase, employ thousands of Americans,” said Under Secretary of Energy Mark W. Menezes. “These businesses have been particularly hard hit by recent events but under President Trump’s leadership, we are taking swift action to assist hard hit producers and deliver strong returns to the taxpayer.”

From: scentman
01-Apr-22
It can only reach a certain top off as truckers can't afford filling trucks at 2500-3000 $ plus rising insurance costs... shipping businesses would go broke in no time... colossal problem going into midterms, they think American's are stupid... they over played their hand.

From: azelkhntr
01-Apr-22

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01-Apr-22
Who cares why he was proposing buying it. It made good sense to do so at such low prices. Are we to believe his only intent was to help producers under his watch. Or, maybe he was helping America too by buying so cheap.

But, I suspect you know that BEG. Which is why you had to counter the good by claiming record failure rates of oil companies under bud watch. What a flippin’ one sided political pendent you are.

Let’s not blame Covid or liberal policy during Covid for the downturn. Let’s blame Trump. Atta’ boy.

From: Jim Moore
01-Apr-22
Furnace Creek Commiefornia is charging 8.94/gal for regular, and 10.20/gal. For diesel. That is per gas buddy.com today.

01-Apr-22
Still waiting for my Gas Rebate card from Gruesome…He’s awesome, like Joe!

From: bigeasygator
02-Apr-22
What a flippin’ one sided political pendent you are.

LOL that’s rich. You guys remember when Republicans actually believed in fiscal conservatism and didn’t applaud government bailouts? I miss those days.

From: JJjr
06-Apr-22
Tres Sec Yellen just spilled it. The fact that with Russia out the Oil and Gas business it will spur much higher energy costs and global disruptions worldwide and will likely cause a recession soon. May be time to rename or restart this thread.

JJjr

From: Beendare
06-Apr-22
Remember who sold us this inflation- Biden And he paraded a bunch of Economists out there to help peddle it,

Article from “The Hill”, excerpt:

Last September, as the Build Back Better legislation was being considered in Congress, many members worried about the inflationary pressure of injecting an additional $2.4 trillion into the economy on top of the $4.1 trillion committed to the American Rescue Plan and the Cares Act.

When it looked like the Democratic majority might include enough deficit hawks to scuttle the bill, Nobel Laureate economist Joseph Stiglitz rounded up another 16 of the 36 living American Nobel Prize economists to declare, in an open letter, that whatever upward pressure on prices all this new money might bring there was no threat of inflation. Forget what government statistics were already signaling. Many non-Nobel economists recognized that a clear case of demand-pull inflation was already underway. The price of used cars, the vehicles people buy when new cars seem unaffordable, led a clearly rising consumer price index.

The Nobelists’ letter showed that those signing had bought Team Biden’s novel argument that its enormous expansion of social welfare programs really was just a different form of infrastructure investment, just like roads and bridges

WRONG!

From: Shawn
07-Apr-22
JJ the russian oil business is a alive and well, the sanctions have done nothing as none involve their oil. The russian currency is now back to pre war levels. The bills the Putin was due to pay and everyone thought he would not be able to, were paid with the 381 billion dollars he made in the last month on the very russian oil you mention. I will still drive my 1400 plus miles to hunt this fall and pay whatever they are charging for diesel and take it in the butt like everyone else. It just pisses me off because it doesn't that to this way!! Its a shame what our once great country has become!! Shawn

From: Shb
21-Apr-22

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CA west of Vegas 3 weeks ago.

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21-Apr-22

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Laramie WY Tuesday

From: bigeasygator
21-Apr-22
California gas prices are the equivalent of high-fenced whitetails.

From: Rocky D
29-Apr-22
$5.19 at the end of the screet! Bahaha bahaha bawaa!

From: azelkhntr
29-Apr-22

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29-Apr-22
Still 5 and change for diesel in Massachusetts

29-Apr-22

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1week ago, Finger Lakes region upper NYS. No foolin’.
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1week ago, Finger Lakes region upper NYS. No foolin’.
That’s $9 Canadian??

29-Apr-22

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Honestly, I think somebody screwed up the programming on the pump, but I needed 15 gallons at the time so…

I even mentioned it to the cashier, and she was like “meh…”.

This is what I paid two weeks ago in Jersey

30-Apr-22
Diesel is back to well over $5/gallon. Gas is around $4.50/ gallon. This is awesome. No relief in sight either. But, government policy has no affect. Because that’s what the smart people say.

01-May-22
Seems like it changes every other day around here…We’re back at $6 for diesel!

02-May-22
Hey, 33Bil to Ukraine though…Screw you common folks! Lol

From: buckhammer
03-May-22
Due to a colder than normal spring here in the Upper Midwest 2 of my neighbors didn't have enough fuel oil to heat their homes till we get some warmer weather. They each bought 150 gallons from 2 separate suppliers in the last couple of weeks. One neighbors bill was $720 the other $726.

From: DanaC
05-May-22
Headline I saw this morning - India Wants Russia to Discount Its Oil to Below $70 a Barrel .

Apparently they think Russia will become desperate for cash.

Gasoline yesterday at $4.239 here. (Central MA) Diesel is over $6/gal.

Was talking to a heating oil delivery guy a few days ago, their price per gallon jumped last week, a lot. Good thing the weather is warming up...

From: Beendare
05-May-22
There will be Diesel shortages on the East Coast this Summer. The east coast stockpiles are at 32 yr lows according to website oil price.com

BIDEN AND THE DEMOCRATS TO THE RESCUE. Just in; The Biden is floating proposals to BUY BACK OIL this fall for the SPR that he just released. This immediately jacked the price of oil to $110/barrel.

The current crop of Democrat politicians in charge are clueless.

Can anyone be this stupid? Sell SPR….then buy back higher……or are they actually screwing us on purpose because you literally can’t initiate worse policy decisions if you tried.

From: Beendare
05-May-22
Its a relative certainty that fuel prices will be much higher this fall, plan accordingly.

From: Swampbuck
05-May-22
Paid $5.79 for diesel yesterday. PBC Florida. 2020 in February it was $2.10

05-May-22
#ucking Biden!

From: bigeasygator
05-May-22

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Its a relative certainty that fuel prices will be much higher this fall, plan accordingly.

That’s not what the market believes. Good news is you can put your money where your mouth is as futures contracts are all priced lower than current spot prices.

06-May-22

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The Market?!? We’ll see….

06-May-22

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06-May-22
Does anybody recall the price per barrel when Dubya was filling up the SPRs in response to spiking prices after we went into Iraq…. and drove up oil prices???

Why we filled up the reserves at top dollar… I have no non-cynical ideas….

I just love the way you guys can spot every bad, corrupt or self-serving decision when anyone from “the other party” does something vile or stupid…. and turn such a blind eye when it’s one from your own party committing the offense.

From: bigeasygator
06-May-22
We did that when Oil was worth zero a barrel in 2020. Your statement is hard to rationalize. If this were the case and the data were true? Then, Buffet would up chit's creek because he went heavy on CVX

No clue what half of this statement even means, but it’s quite hilarious you talk about competent energy investment while at the same time implying CVX’s current valuation (or any oil company) is based on current spot prices. They are not, which is why folks like Buffett still see CVX as a buy even if oil prices come off these highs.

And Ike, care to share what a “fair” amount of profit for these companies to make is? Their margins are about 10%…far less than most industries. So how much should their profits be when they’re spending $150-200+ bln to fund their business?

From: KSflatlander
06-May-22
Give him time BEG. He has to search social media for another stupid meme to post.

07-May-22
Volume dictates profits. Not margins. And, profits for oil might average 10%. But, they take what they can get. When they can get it. And, have zero interests in making less profits.

Nothing is going to change for the better for a while. Plagiarized capitalism will see to that. Established political parties have done well enslaving every single American alive.

These are the same idiots saying policy isn’t affecting your fuel prices. We will see come fall. But, it’ll be something else then. Not policy. SMH

From: Swampbuck
07-May-22

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Up $.10 in two days. Don’t know how the working people do it? Oh wait that’s me! Gonna have to get the locking fuel caps soon, damn I feel old saying that

From: bigeasygator
07-May-22

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Volume dictates profits. Not margins.

Simply put, no, it doesn’t. All you have to do is take a look at the BEP of various basins and realize margins matter. If they didn’t, all of these lines would be the same height. Yes, more volumes can deliver more profit, but it often comes at eroded margin as companies will take the good stuff first.

And I haven’t seen anyone say policy doesn’t matter. The only idiots I see are the ones who think policy is the reason for the current pain at the pump, yet can’t point to any policy that is actually limiting production. For the hundredth time, it isn’t. I encourage you to google “oil industry capital discipline” and see where that takes you. There’s a quarterly report from the Dallas Fed that surveys energy executives. Feel free to see what they are saying about the primary reason they’re not growing production. But hey, I’m sure you know more than me (a petroleum engineer who has worked in the industry for 20 years) and you know better than the countless executives running these oil businesses, WVM.

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07-May-22

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07-May-22
BEG, you are the dumbest human being I know. You truly are. The dumbest.

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07-May-22

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Haha k.

Two more charts. Here’s the company I work for showing quarterly production vs profit and margins. As you can see quite clearly, volumes do not dictate profit. Anything else you want me to show you’re wrong about?

07-May-22
well my observation is this.... most can not care much about the cost of fuel, when you watch the majority drive.............. Tailgate, then stomp on it, to get around you, race like hell, and all in vehicles that really dont get much for mileage,,,,,, Everyone is going 20 over on the interstates, etc.................... Truck drivers use to be the best in the world, now most of them, drive 2 feet off someones rear, got to go, go, go........

07-May-22

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Here you go KS! Lol KMA!

From: Jaquomo
07-May-22
One positive in all of this - it has priced aznonhntr out of coming to Colorado. Thanks to all the contributors to high fuel prices!

08-May-22
6.20 today in MASS for diesel

09-May-22
Prices in SoCal…

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09-May-22

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09-May-22

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From: Beendare
10-May-22
Big easy comment; That’s not what the market believes. Good news is you can put your money where your mouth is as futures contracts are all priced lower than current spot prices.

Hmmm, and prices are going up as I predicted…..

Time to reevalute what you think you know, eh?

FYI, its a terrible situation that costs the avg American dearly. I’m not trying to rub your nose in it, just trying to warn folks to plan accordingly.

There is a lot more going on here than meets the eye. Today, Biden made the waery claim, “There are xxxxx oil leases that aren’t being used” trying to blame the oil companies for his own terrible policy.

Bidens policy statements before he was inaugurated caused the price of oil to move. Then it continued to move up in the $80 plus range which put enough money in Putins pocket that he could invade Ukraine. The other thing Biden ( actually its Obama, Soros and ? that are really calling the shots) did was restrict supply so Putin knew that if he invaded the price of oil would jump even more giving him another 30% of profits.

A double Bubble as the Brits call it. Trump knew that when the oil is flowing worldwide, the price per barrel moderates. Russian cost per barrel is $42 or so. Trumps policy kept Russian (and Saudi, Venezuelan) profits low. Putin didn’t have the funds to invade anyone or at least it would be tougher. Biden giving him a $40 per barrel profit and later $80/barrel profit…..it tipped the scales in Putins pocketbook.

Policy is a key driver in price at the pump….no matter how much Biden tries to claim otherwise. Biden claims to open the market…but his liberal progressive Fed agencies stonewall anything fossil fuels.

.

From: TRnCO
10-May-22
Speaking of Biden, I tried to watch his speech today. Good lord, the fool can't put a coherent sentence together.....BUT by God he's here to fix inflation if the dang Repubs. would get out of the way....

From: bigeasygator
10-May-22
Bidens policy statements before he was inaugurated caused the price of oil to move.

No they didn’t.

The other thing Biden ( actually its Obama, Soros and ? that are really calling the shots) did was restrict supply

In the short term, no he hasn’t. We are producing more oil as a country now than when Trump left office. That said, neither of those two men (Trump/Biden) have much of anything to do with that fact.

Biden giving him a $40 per barrel profit and later $80/barrel profit…..it tipped the scales in Putins pocketbook.

You can thank a strong economy and increased demand for $80/bbl, not Biden.

Policy is a key driver in price at the pump….no matter how much Biden tries to claim otherwise. Biden claims to open the market…but his liberal progressive Fed agencies stonewall anything fossil fuels.

No, it’s not. You clearly have minimal knowledge on the timescale associated with impacting the crude oil supply to market. The only policy that has been enacted has been on lease sales, and any production affected by that would not hit the market for years or even decades. These policies are terrible, but they are not impacting current supply or demand.

They. Have. No. Impact. On. Current. Prices.

From: bigeasygator
10-May-22
East Coast Distillate Inventories are not field level crude oil production.

From: Beendare
10-May-22
Gator, you post the futures price …but the actual price at the pump keeps going up as I stated……Do you ever admit you are dead wrong?

Why does the east coast pay apprx double for the same nat gas as the balance of the US? Clear and simple, Its stupid Democrat policy.

Hey, lets release a bunch of oil from the SPR to lower prices…..and of course it didn’t move much because folks are smart enough to know thats a very short term fix. The announcement that inventories were building dropped the price more than that SPR release a week earlier. ( which makes the SPR release look even dumber.

Then what does idiot Biden do right after the release, he announces he will be looking to buy it all back in the fall….instantly prices shot back up. A president couldn’t screw this up any worse if they tried….which is looking more and more like thats what they are actually trying to do while blaming everyone/everything else.

Its either massive stupidity….or intentional. Its like selling your car…and telling the buyer you really want it back. Sure, its yours but its going to cost you.

59 bear posts relevant info of shortages, that has a direct affect on the price at the pump….contradicting your theory that futures contracts control everything.

There are many factors…your boy Biden and his puppet masters are a big one.

Deny all you want…but policy has an effect on prices. We have been living through it. You are saying its just a coincidence that during Trump The price at the pump was lower than both with Obama and Biden? Ridiculous.

When you do put the pieces together and realize Bidens policy opened the door for Putin to invade Ukraine. POLICY that handed Putin exorbitant profits with the promise of even more if he invades…….then you will be as mad as the rest of us.

10-May-22

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From: Rocky D
11-May-22
Biden just said that Putin’s war and once in a lifetime pandemic caused the inflation. More importantly be aware of that ultra maga group of terroirst.

Hmm, I wonder if these terrorist are spreading misinformation about the gas prices be a result of the Biden administration’s policies.

Let’s go Brandon!

From: Rocky D
11-May-22

From: bigeasygator
11-May-22
Gator, you post the futures price …but the actual price at the pump keeps going up as I stated……Do you ever admit you are dead wrong?

You said the price at the end of the year was going to be higher, I said that’s not what the market thinks. The futures price is merely a view of the market about what’s going to happen, not what has.

The actual price at the pump doesn’t keep going up. It dropped from March to April. Regardless, I never said prices aren’t high. I said the things you point to - namely Biden - aren’t the reason.

59 bear posts relevant info of shortages, that has a direct affect on the price at the pump….contradicting your theory that futures contracts control everything.

That datapoint - distillate inventories - means nothing without context. There is no evidence that the changes in inventories have anything to do with supply shortages. In fact, if you google distillate production you’ll see supply hasn’t changed much at all under Biden. Again, these are inventory levels (not production) of a refined product and mean next to nothing when it comes to prices you pay at the pump. They are a lagging indicator and without context are irrelevant to this conversation.

If you have questions about crude oil supply (which matters to the price of oil, which is the biggest contributor to the price of gasoline), the answers lie in looking at actual crude oil production and other data like active rig counts. That is relevant data, not distillate inventories.

And where did I say futures prices control everything?? They don’t “control” much of anything at all. They are an outcome of the views the market has on the balance of supply and demand for crude oil. The collective market believes prices are coming down. You have a different opinion which goes against that consensus. You may ultimately be right - I’m merely pointing out that it’s a contrarian view.

You are saying its just a coincidence that during Trump The price at the pump was lower than both with Obama and Biden? Ridiculous.

Yes, that’s the point. Despite what politicians want to tell you, oil prices are moved by many things but it’s rarely the person in the Oval Office at the time of the price swings. The lowest retail price for gasoline in the last 25 years was when Obama was in office (in 2009). The price of gasoline rose every year Trump was in office until the pandemic hit.

If you want to know the reasons for those low prices google the following and report back:

“Oil price crash 2008”

“Oil price crash 2014”

“Oil price crash 2020”

Let me know how many times energy policy shows up as the reason for those events. Yes, policy matters and depending on what it is can have an effect. But just like (*spoiler alert* if you haven’t googled what I told you to google) policy wasn’t the reason for those price crashes listed above, it’s also not the reason for the current spike in prices.

From: bowhunt
11-May-22

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“ The actual price at the pump doesn’t keep going up. It dropped from March to April. Regardless, I never said prices aren’t high. I said the things you point to - namely Biden - aren’t the reason.”

Multiple news agencies reported that us average gas prices hit a record high yesterday . Gas price have definitely been “trending” higher since April of 2020 with a few dips here and there. That March-April dip ended April 18 and prices have been going up since then to reach yesterdays record high.

From: Rocky D
11-May-22
We have an administration that is not responsible and only has excuses.

In the army we had a saying that “the maximum effective range of an excuse is 0 meters.”

I guess this doesn’t apply to the Commander in Chief!

From: bigeasygator
11-May-22
Your lopsided theory is flawed in my understanding.

And as per usual, Shawn, your posts are 90% unintelligible and the 10% that is left makes no sense or has no relevance to the conversation.

Multiple news agencies reported that us average gas prices hit a record high yesterday

I said March to April. I didn’t say April to May. It was to put out the fallacy of speaking in absolutes like saying it the price keeps going up when, no, it doesn’t. It fluctuates. The trend overall has been upwards since they crashed during the pandemic. Give it enough time and I bet the longer term trend will move the opposite direction.

From: Mint
11-May-22
Lenin had a term for Biden apologists, useful idiots. These are the same people that thought complaining parents at school indoctrination were domestic terrorists. Accounting 101 is that regulations always make costs go up and as soon as Biden was in office he reversed Trumps executive orders cutting regulations and issued even more regulations. Inflation of course makes oil more expensive and Biden has fueled inflation and wants to fuel it even more.

From: Beendare
11-May-22
Im flummoxed that anyone would believe a word out of Bidens mouth from his speech yesterday. Shame on news media like CNN,MSNBC parroting his comments without any fact check. Biden is hinting that he will step in to lower oil insinuating price control and hammering big oil companies….almost guaranteeing higher prices.

Biden changed the guidelines that his environmental agency NEPA uses to approve fossil fuel projects; pipelines, refiners, etc. The new rules essentially make ANYTHING fossil fuel a No Go. That one change in policy killed the industry driving up prices.

Biden keeps saying, “I released all of these new oil leases….” But then his fed agencies stonewall development along with initiated much higher royalties to the gov. Then factor in the bulk of our oil production in the US is not well funded big multi natl oil companies but small guys. Bidens POLICY statement that they will be all EV by 2035 makes it difficult for these smaller companies to get financing.

Would you spend millions now for a house that you have to give away in 12 years?

Biden continues to try and fool the avg Democrat voter into thinking its everyone elses fault. The scary thing is that they are intentionally driving up these fossil fuel prices…..To make their horrible California based energy policy look good. Power companies across the US recently came out saying they cannot keep up with power needs.

Business needs a reliable power supply- and Biden is steering us down a road where thats not going to be the case. The Democrats are literally tanking the US for their Globalist vision.

Lets hope the avg American sees through this terrible policy in the next election.

.

From: bigeasygator
11-May-22
Accounting 101 is that regulations always make costs go up and as soon as Biden was in office he reversed Trumps executive orders cutting regulations and issued even more regulations.

Sure regulations can add costs, but it’s a matter of how much and when. The people that think these regulations are having a meaningful impact on the current supply and demand of oil, which is all that matters when it comes to current prices, clearly don’t understand what Biden’s EOs have (and haven’t) done and don’t understand the way the oil industry works.

You can also think Biden and his policies suck (they do, for like the tenth time) and also realize they don’t matter much when it comes to the current situation we find ourselves in (supply, demand, prices, etc).

From: KSflatlander
11-May-22

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"Biden changed the guidelines that his environmental agency NEPA uses to approve fossil fuel projects; pipelines, refiners, etc. The new rules essentially make ANYTHING fossil fuel a No Go. That one change in policy killed the industry driving up prices."

As someone who writes NEPA docs for energy projects this statement is 100% false. Biden reversed a Trump policy and added climate change as cumulative resource analysis back into the process (which is one of many factors analyzed during the NEPA process). A projects effects on climate change weighs no more heavily on a NEPA decision than public need for energy or the many other factors on the record of decision.

See the attached link for some NEPA documents and decision/approval in 2022. So no, Biden did not "NO GO" all energy projects through NEPA.

By the way, NEPA is not an agency but a law. All federal agencies or any private projects with a federal nexus (needs a federal permit, on public land, or is federally funded) must complete the NEPA process unless it is categorically excluded.

11-May-22
Current prices are due to many factors. I can't blame the Biden handler's terrible policies and general attitude toward fossil fuels for all of it. Profit taking and world events are a part as well.

What I can blame them for is not trying to fix it. They don't want to fix it. There is plenty the executive branch and congress can do to encourage supply increases and reduce the impact of unfriendly countries on supply and pricing.

What investor would be excited about exploring and new extraction infrastructure when your government is exclaiming they want you gone?

We need to encourage production. We can go green on a parallel path and let it gain presence based on merit. In the mean time, we need to have a strong and healthy country and economy along with the freedom and security to innovate and take risks. Third world countries aren't where advances in alternative energy come from.

11-May-22

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Glunt nailed it…This administration has said, it wants Americans to suffer! Besides, the ‘big guy’ rides for free! #uckbiden

From: bigeasygator
11-May-22
What I can blame them for is not trying to fix it. They don't want to fix it. There is plenty the executive branch and congress can do to encourage supply increases…

That’s a fairer challenge, Glunt. There are things that could be done, but I don’t see much having an effect in the short term. He can open up leasing and decrease the royalty rate, but it won’t have much of an immediate effect on supply. The same way Trump’s policies were great for coal, but ultimately didn’t do much to change the industry - the same can be said for actions taken on oil and gas by the Biden administration.

In short, you can’t force companies to spend money - oil companies have been burned too often as of late (see 2008, 2014, 2020) and no one is keen to ramp up and get burned again.

What do you think Biden can do about this, Glunt?

11-May-22
“ In short, you can’t force companies to spend money - oil companies have been burned too often as of late (see 2008, 2014, 2020) and no one is keen to ramp up and get burned again.”

Yes, but they sure don’t mind making it off us! Lol

From: bigeasygator
11-May-22
Were you celebrating the time periods (see 2009, 2015, 2020) when we were losing billions and laying off hundreds of thousands of people, Ike? When did capitalism become such a negative thing to so many of you. I’ll ask you again, Ike. If I spend $200 bln a year on my business, what’s a “fair” profit in your mind?

11-May-22
Big picture: Stop with trying to force alternative energy and commit to embracing traditional energy as the backbone of everything (because it is) until better solutions and technology prove themselves.

Shorter term: Not really "short" because it's not a faucet but the sooner we start the better. Meet with Industy leaders and get a list of "wants" that would prompt Operation Oil Warp Speed. I won't claim to be an expert but take away obstacles and add incentives. Green Light projects like pipelines and natural gas export facilities waiting approval. It won't drop prices next month but when you are in a hole, stop digging first, then start climbing out.

At least act like they want affordable energy. Which is hard because they dont. I don't expect this Admin to do the right thing. People in power rarely act against their self interest. High fuel prices fall into the "plus" column for them. Instead of the "problem" category except for how it effects them at the polls.

11-May-22
BEG, you're way off, I didn't and don't celebrate our Oil workers being laid off...I grew up in the oil business, my grandfather and dad before he went into DF&G...I'll be just fine, thank you...

Show me the 200Bln they're supposedly spending on their business!

From: bigeasygator
11-May-22
Agree with your big picture, though there isn’t a ton of forcing anything going on currently in this country. Government should continue to let the market dictate the pace of the transition and stay out of things.

Regarding Operation Oil Warp Speed, I don’t think anything is really going to push the industry to deliver more in the short term. We’re more worried about longer term industry security and making sure we’re free to operate through the transition. To that end, yes, continue leasing rounds, green lighting projects, etc all deliver that - but this is for longer term industry security (think 5, 10, 15, 25 years from now).

There’s been a big shift in the industry in terms of our approach to growth, and you’re seeing continued capital discipline. I think it persists for a long time, and there isn’t really much that can be done to change that.

From: bigeasygator
11-May-22

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Show me the 200Bln they're supposedly spending on their business!

See above. It’s all right there in their financial statements. So again, Ike…what’s a “fair profit” since apparently we’re making too much money?

From: Beendare
11-May-22

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KS Flat- So you work for FERC?

Maybe you can explain this new ruling then taken right off of your website at link and explain why so few of these pipelines are approved under Biden?

from the FERC ruling PL21-3-000; UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION [Docket No. PL21-3-000] Consideration of Greenhouse Gas Emissions in Natural Gas Infrastructure Project Reviews(Issued February 18, 2022)AGENCY: Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.ACTION: Interim policy statement. SUMMARY: This interim policy statement describes Commission procedures for evaluating climate impacts under NEPA and describes how the Commission will integrate climate considerations into its public interest determinations under the NGA. ....Commission staff’s NEPA documents have included direct GHG emission estimates from project construction (e.g., tailpipe emissions from construction equipment) and/or operation (e.g., fuel combustion at compressor stations and gas venting and leaks).22 Starting in late 2016, the Commission began to conservatively estimate indirect downstream GHG emissions by assuming full combustion of the maximum annual volume of gas that could be transported by the project.23 For indirect upstream, production-related GHG emissions, Commission orders during that time period relied on Department of Energy studies to calculate broad estimates.24 For upstream impacts, the Commission generally indicated that these analyses were not required by NEPA because the Commission lacked detailed.......

Sounds^ exactly as I described.

Questions for you; How long on avg does it take from start to finish to get one of these pipelines approved?

How many pipelines have been approved since Biden was elected? And how many denied?

From: KSflatlander
11-May-22
Don’t change the subject. You made the statement and it’s false. I posted a link that had many projects that completed the NEPA process since Biden has been in office. By law, you can’t “No Go” any project or industry outright through NEPA. It’s just a silly statement and it’s not true. Nothing you posted says anything about No Going all fossil fuel projects. Climate change is again one resource area in NEPA like it was prior to Trump.

No I do not work for FERC.

11-May-22
Hey BEG, would you at least concede that government policy has a huge impact on the benefits of that capital discipline?

You could end all this by simply admitting that.

From: Old Bow
11-May-22

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From: bigeasygator
11-May-22
Hey BEG, would you at least concede that government policy has a huge impact on the benefits of that capital discipline?

I’m not sure I know what you’re referencing, WVM. The biggest benefits from the capital discipline approach IMO are:

1) we’re returning more cash to investors instead of reinvesting it in the business, raising the shareholder value proposition in the short term and

2) by moderating our growth, we’re protecting our business from exposure to any future down cycles.

So saying government policy has a big impact on increased shareholder returns and building a more financially resilient company doesn’t make sense to me. I’m sure you had something different in mind though.

From: bigeasygator
11-May-22

From: bigeasygator
11-May-22

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Most if not all US future experts are calling for Sept highs never before seen in history.

No they aren’t, Dick (aka Shawn).

From: bigeasygator
11-May-22

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Remember when you posted this prediction quoting the “experts,” Shawn?? Well your experts were only off by about 40%.

From: Bearman
11-May-22
I'm almost to the point I don't even wanna waste a breath talking to ANYONE THAT voted Democrat unless they admit they f$&ked up. That includes friends/family. If your truly that brainwashed and stupid, well....

11-May-22
I bet you don’t.

To simplify in your terminology.

“ Jason, are you suggesting that government policy has no impact on investment planning for oil producers?”.

Please don’t play dumb.

From: bigeasygator
11-May-22
Sorry, I’m not following your line of logic, WVM.

No, I’m not suggesting government policy has no impact on investment decisions.

You mentioned government policies impact on the benefits of capital discipline. Yes, the whole regulatory framework is relevant to any business. But the current regulatory environment has next to nothing to do with the benefits that currently come from returning cash to shareholders (ie, improving your attractiveness as an investment) and creating more financial resilience (ie, protection from the impacts of any future downturn).

You clearly have something different in mind and I’m asking you to clarify what it is or ask your question in a different way.

11-May-22
Thanks for the break down BEG, glad to see their spending our money wisely! ;-) Not sure where you got that ‘I care’ what they make…One thing for sure, we’re in for a long hot summer…

From: bigeasygator
11-May-22

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Not sure where you got that ‘I care’ what they make…

Perhaps posting memes about oil company profits with the hashtag #corporategreedtakingfromthoseinneed?

12-May-22
So, you admit wha everyone knows and is stating in their own way. Then say it is having no impact on this situation? SMH.

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
I don’t know how I can be any more clear.

Oil price is high because demand is outpacing supply. The biggest reason impact on the supply side is that the oil and gas industry is moderating their growth. The reason for that is shareholder/investors have demanded companies show discipline with their money and provide them better returns on their investment. The reason for this is returns have been terrible due to cash going to growth and three major price crashes impacting valuations over the last dozen years.

None of this has to do with Biden’s actions or the current regulatory environment. Biden’s actions (cancelling lease sales, nixing the expansion to the Keystone pipeline) only touch a fraction of the oil produced in this country and will not influence supply during the timescale to influence current prices (these are barrels that would be produced years or even decades from now).

So yes, policy matters, and if current policy holds it will impact price years down the road when the funnel of leases to exploit dries up - but it is doing next to nothing to the current supply mix right now and has little to nothing to do with the reasons oil companies are moderating growth currently - and therefore next to nothing to do with current prices.

These things are not mutually exclusive. Biden’s policies can be bad (they are), they can impact prices down the line (they may), and they can also have nothing to do with the current supply equation and current pricing (they don’t).

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22

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One reason. If we were using product at pre pandemic rates it would but demand is way off

Demand is down considerably

Not sure where you all get your information, but demand is not down. We are consuming crude oil at essentially pre-pandemic rates.

Global oil demand roared back in 2021 as the world began to recover from the coronavirus pandemic, and overall world consumption potentially could hit a new record in 2022 - despite efforts to bring down fossil fuel consumption to mitigate climate change.

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22

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Demand is DOWN. China lockdowns, Russian disruption, Opec pumping at same levels.

Q1 2022 with all of the pressures you described was essentially flat from Q4 2021 (although only one was demand oriented, with the China lockdowns). You can say that pressures will push demand lower over the course of the year, but demand has been rising, China lockdowns haven't had a significant impact globally, and any dips in consumption have been negligible.

It's really funny, because on one hand, Shawn, you're arguing that demand is down and will continue to drop. Oil supply is rising and will continue to do so at a moderate pace at these prices. Yet you're predicting record high prices. Sorry, but not surprisingly, these things don't add up.

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
Semantics. They revised their demand growth forecasts downwards. They are still predicting oil consumption growing, just not as much as they previously thought. It's literally right there in the first link in your screenshot.

"Opec said demand would rise by 3.36 million barrels per day."

This is down from their previous estimate of 3.67 million barrels per day of growth this year.

If your house is worth $100K and is predicted to be worth $175K at year end, and then a month later it's predicted to be $170K instead, would you say housing prices are down and prices are falling?

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
LOL...so two of the top three hits on your google search of "q1 2022 crude oil demand down" don't even mention demand, and the other one mentions a tick down. If you clicked on that link it is referencing a week-on-week dip of 1% in demand. This is not a trend. This is a blip. You need to look at trends. Keep trying, but your assertion that we have "low petroleum demand" is patently false. It's historically near record highs. It is forecasted to continue to grow by the likes of OPEC, all the banks, the EIA, etc. To say we have "low petroleum demand" because of a minor week-over-week dip is just hilarious.

From: Beendare
12-May-22
BEG its baffling how you think Biden policy has nothing to do with the price at the pump.

I was hoping Flatlander would chime in with info on all of the pipelines they have approved lately…and how quickly these projects get expedited- Not!

Heres another example - cut and paste- from the Larry Kudlow article today, his comments in Fox business. ( according to KS Flat he is lying)

Well, you would think that, but unfortunately, you'd be wrong because no matter what President Biden may say about short-run this or short-run that, the reality is his administration's new NEPA permitting rules will basically stop new oil and gas production and new pipeline building.

Of course, the Keystone XL pipeline is gone, thanks to Biden. Alaska drilling — gone. Other smaller pipelines — gone. Those decisions have already been made by Biden's Energy and Interior departments and his EPA. But just a few weeks ago, after bragging that at least a small amount of leases on federal lands will become available, the White House Council on Environment Quality put out the most restrictive, onerous infrastructure regulations in history.

Any new infrastructure projects — be they fossil fuel-related, or pipelines, or even bridges, roads highways, tunnels — will be subject to direct, indirect and cumulative environmental impact reviews. The social cost of carbon and its cumulative impact could go back 100 years and forward 100 years, all one gigantic roadblock.

Those new regulations actually neuter the trillion-dollar infrastructure bill that was passed months ago and supported by the Biden administration. Under these new rules, we won't be able to help Europe, nor will we be able to help the U.S. Ironically, we won't even be able to help the greenies, because a lot of their projects to build wind and solar and electric charging stations and EVs will be stopped by these radical environmental regulations.

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
BEG its baffling how you think Biden policy has nothing to do with the price at the pump.

Biden policy that is being referenced has nothing to do with the *current* price at the pump.

Even your referencing of new NEPA requirements, whether they are mischaracterized by anyone here or not, has no effect on current supply, and current demand. It is on projects that wouldn’t impact supply for years or decades. Prices at the pump right now are not materially impacted by something that may or may not happen five years from now. It’s not how the crude markets work. It is about the relationship between supply and demand at the current moment.

Tell me how a project that isn’t projected to deliver barrels to the market for, say, five years impacting barrels being produced today (5/12/2022)?

From: Orion
12-May-22
So your telling us that you will admit the current prices are reflective of Obama's crappy policies he put on the industry while he was in office that Joe is replicating?

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
What policies? He didn’t really do anything meaningful that has stuck.

12-May-22
He isn’t going to tell you anything like that. He’s going to stick to game of semantics because he likes short term.

Oil producers aren’t going to increase production. In any means but a snails pace. That’s reality. There is no incentive too. But, none of that is policy related.

I realize that sounds dumb. But, that is what the business master BEG is selling. SMH

From: RonP
12-May-22
words spoken by the POTUS are some of the most influential on the planet. when you (and/or your spokesperson, transportation and EPA secretary) say or your actions support canceling oil and gas pipeline projects and leases, and transitioning to other sources of energy, you have an impact on price and availability.

as biden would say, "period" . :)

12-May-22
LMAO...

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
Demand is down

Current demand? Forecasted demand? What are you talking about here. And down compared to what? Last months actual consumption? Last years actual consumption? Last months forecasted year-end demand?

If you’re talking about the week on week drop in demand, sure. If you’re talking about the forecasted end of year demand decreasing from the prior forecasts, sure (though all these forecasts show consumption rising through year end and a year-on-year increase in demand).

Not to mention Biden just as we speak denied a host of offshore Oil leases today

I’ve said this is bad policy. That said, do you know the typical timeframe from lease acquisition to production from an offshore well. For leases that are pure exploration plays, we’re talking decades (20 years). For leases with nearby infrastructure, you’re talking 5-10 years minimum. You think this matters to supply right now? It doesn’t.

Not surprised you’d think 59 nailed it. Assuming both of these accounts are Shawn Magyar.

From: Orion
12-May-22
Really Bigeasy you think Obama was oil and natural gas friendly? Curious how far back you look at policies to have an affect on current prices.

From: KSflatlander
12-May-22
“I was hoping Flatlander would chime in with info on all of the pipelines they have approved lately…and how quickly these projects get expedited- Not!“

The link I provided had a 2022 list. I guess you missed that.

“Heres another example - cut and paste- from the Larry Kudlow article today, his comments in Fox business. ( according to KS Flat he is lying)“

He’s not lying, he just doesn’t understand NEPA…just like you. Again, Biden reversed Trumps executive order and added climate change cumulative impacts back into NEPA analysis like it was before Trump. Were there any oil pipeline or leases approved prior to Trump? Yes, there were many and the NEPA analysis included climate change as a cumulative impact analysis. No different than now.

As usual, right wing talking heads will feed you fear and you will gobble it up because it fits your narrative and spread it without researching it yourself. Mindlessly…

You can NOT predetermine the results of NEPA based on one resource impact over another. If that were the case then oil companies could sue and they would win easily.

Larry is spreading fear and you are eating it up.

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
I look as far back as I need to. As this is my job, I have a good sense of how the regulatory framework has changed for E&P operations over my career and the effect they have had on the business (I started work in 2002). To that end, the largest lasting impact of changes to the regulatory framework under Obama had to do with well permitting requirements post the Macondo blowout in the offshore space and the regulations on methane emissions.

Neither of these have moved the needle much in terms of limiting supply? Do they add costs and red tape? Of course. Would I deem them meaningfully impactful? For a host of reasons, no I wouldn’t. I never said he was friendly to the industry. I said he didn’t impact much of anything.

But I may be missing something. Are there Obama era regulations that you think have had a lasting impact on the industry and are currently keeping production levels meaningfully curtailed, Orion?

From: Orion
12-May-22
I believe the added costs and miles of red tape along with all the other hoops needed to jump through during the Obama years definitely curtailed and had an adverse effect on production. Many companies cancelled projects with not wanting to deal with all the new b.s

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
Care to share specific examples and quantify those curtailments?

In the offshore world, permit requirements increased about five fold under Obama and requirements for things like Worst Case Discharge calculations added what I would say a man month of work. For wells that typically cost $75-100 mln and take multiple years to assess, select, design, and execute, all of these requirements are in the noise in terms of additional resourcing.

From: Orion
12-May-22
Lots of companies here in the San Juan Basin cancelled projects and decided it was cheaper and easier to pay the fines for not meeting minimum flow agreements that were supposed to come on our system from new wells.

From: Beendare
12-May-22

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KS Flat, OK...so you are saying its no different...so you are saying the NEPA guidelines did not change at all under Biden? Biden himself stated he was reworking these guidelines.

Can you give us an idea of how long it takes to get one of these fossil fuel project through and how many have been approved since Biden took over?

FWIW, I am for environmental guidelines.....but I've seen cases where these projects get stalled and stalemated for years. Recently, on March 25th, Manchin had to come down on your outfit FERC in a congressional hearing that was stonewalling these fossil fuel projects. That would contradict what you are saying.

Heres the report from my link at Energy.gov- Washington, DC – Today, U.S. Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV), Chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, released the following statement after the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) reconsidered the policy statements on natural gas infrastructure projects it issued in February.

“Today’s unanimous vote during FERC’s open meeting was a course-correction from their previous partisanship and I appreciate their willingness to address the significant concerns raised by many members of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee. I was also pleased to see them approve three additional pipeline projects. Energy security for America and our allies is dependent on FERC’s ability to move much needed energy infrastructure projects forward. To do so they must maintain clear and predictable policies that strike the right balance between energy security, affordability and environmental considerations. I will continue to seek a bipartisan path forward to ensure they do.”

In February, Chairman Manchin criticized FERC’s decision to add unnecessary roadblocks to the permitting process for natural gas projects. On March 3, Chairman Manchin convened a hearing to review that decision and blasted it as a short-sighted measure that put American energy reliability, security and independence at risk.

From: KSflatlander
12-May-22
“Can you give us an idea of how long it takes to get one of these fossil fuel project through and how many have been approved since Biden took over?“

That depends on hundreds of factors. The size and distance of the line, what it’s carrying, where it’s at, what resources is it affecting, routing and siting, land acquisition, funding and on and on. The environmental part is just one part. NEPA is done once the field data is collected. It can take a pipeline 1 year to 20 years to get built. Anyone of the steps above can delay a project. The environmental work is usually done ~2 years prior to construction on average…which is admittedly a Guesstimate because it varies based on the factors above..

I don’t know the total number? You said all fossil fuel projects were “No Go” via NEPA. I provided a link that showed that your statement was false. Your own link says 3 projects were approved.

“Manchin had to come down on your outfit FERC in a congressional hearing that was stonewalling these fossil fuel projects. “

Again, I don’t work for FERC or the federal government. Nor do I know any specifics about these projects. But you can just keep with the straw-man arguments. What you posted is still false.

Everyone wants fossil fuel infrastructure built ASAP until it’s in their (thanks Ike aka the racist meme idiot) back yard.

12-May-22
Their, their back yard...

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
Lots of companies here in the San Juan Basin cancelled projects and decided it was cheaper and easier to pay the fines for not meeting minimum flow agreements that were supposed to come on our system from new wells.

During what time period are you talking?

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
Very very evident demand has deceased

Again, a question that you ignore...compared to what? Not sure why this is so hard for you to understand. Demand growth has decreased. Overall demand is still increasing. You're painting a different picture that is not accurate.

From the IEA on May 12th: "The Paris-based group predicts global demand at 99.4mn b/d this year, the same forecast it gave in its previous report, for year-on-year growth of 1.8mn b/d."

From JP Morgan on May 5th: "We now see total oil demand averaging 100 million bpd, 400,000 bpd below 2019 levels. This is a downward revision of 1 million bpd, and represents expected demand growth of 2.4 million bpd on a year-on-year basis."

From the OPEC forecast you reference on May 12: "In its latest Monthly Oil Market Report (MOMR), Opec expects world oil demand growth at 3.4mn b/d in 2022"

Simple question Shawn, do you predict more oil consumption in December 2022 relative to May 2022?

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
Dont know Shawn

K, we'll see. Another screen name showing up with no history on this site espousing the same nonsensical theories with the borderline unintelligible language and structure at times that I will almost guarantee will be wiped clean here in the next day or two.

That said, you didn't answer the question. Thanks Shawn.

From: Orion
12-May-22
Big easy 2009-to early 2014.

12-May-22
BEG, those figures are what’s out there floating around the big ol wide web! If companies don’t care or mind what they make (which they shouldn’t!), why get all butt hurt over it! Government doesn’t care what they do to us…

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
If companies don’t care or mind what they make (which they shouldn’t!), why get all butt hurt over it!

Is this bizarro world? You are literally the one who posted the meme criticizing Big Oil companies for making the profits they do.

Big easy 2009-to early 2014.

During this period oil and natural gas production in this country increased by 40%. Oil production in the basin tripled, despite the relative unattractiveness when compared to other basins in the area (Eagle Ford, Permian, etc) from a margin perspective (which I would think would have been a bigger factor in shelving projects).

Not saying it (multiple projects cancelled 2009-2014) didn't happen, but I don't understand how those decisions were related to Obama and it's not on trend with what was happening in the basin during that time period.

12-May-22

'Ike' (Phone)'s Link
Like I said BEG, that’s just what’s floating around…Where did I criticize it? Merely passing it on! Just like this lil tid bit…You may have already covered it! Up!

After dropping slightly last month, gas prices hit an all-time high on Tuesday, with Americans all over the country paying more than usual to fill up their cars.

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
Where did I criticize it?

The picture literally is posted with the hashtag Corporate Greed Taking From Those in Need. If your intention was just to educate us on the magnitude of oil company profits, I'd recommend picking a different source for the information and providing a bit more context next time.

From: KSflatlander
12-May-22
He doesn’t really read memes, he just cuts and pastes all day long with no real thinking on his own.

12-May-22

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KS did you have anything useful to say?!? Didn’t think so…Lol I’ll keep that in mind BEG! Here you go KS, KMA!

From: Beendare
12-May-22
Seems to me, the only projects getting approved are the ones Manchin stepped in and told the bureaucrats to approve them.

I see a there are a couple of CNG facilities approved…BTW, that send the gas overseas.

I don’t see pipelines from Canada getting approved……or from the Appalachians to the east coast where it is most needed. The mostly conservative Gulf Coast is humming…the liberal Dem east coast not so much.

Flatlanders stance of ‘ Nothings Changed’ just doesn’t jibe with whats going on politically- Biden changed his mind on the AK areas again.

Why would companies NOT want to get at all of that oil? The obvious answer is its investment risk, with an antagonistic Democrat regime and gov restrictions.

From: KSflatlander
12-May-22
“KS did you have anything useful to say?!?“

Oh the irony meme guy. It is bizarro world.

Here is something useful…BEG schooled you yet again.

Beendare- pipelines crossing state lines iss a federal issue no matter where it is in the country. International pipelines require a presidential permit. And I never said nothing changed. I clearly stated that Biden reversed Trumps EO on NEPA and put it back were it had been for decades pre-Trump. Still, there is NOT a standing order to NO Go all fossil fuel projects as you stated. It’s once again still false.

From: KSflatlander
12-May-22
How low do you have to be to have 2 fake registers to pat yourself on the back. Shawn…what a tool.

From: bigeasygator
12-May-22
It’s undoubtedly psychotic, KS.

From: KSflatlander
13-May-22
“Demand is down as most large News Agencies are reporting. RG*“

Shawn/Static/59bear(all the same person)- compared to what? Yesterday? Five minutes ago? Certainly not compared to the height of the pandemic in 2020-2021.

You seriously take on two handles to complement yourself? A conversation with yourself? Really?

From: KSflatlander
13-May-22
Sure Shawn. Narcissist sociopath.

13-May-22
LMAO oh KS, glad you've found a buddy to hang out with!...

Still holding right at $6ish

From: DanaC
13-May-22

DanaC's Link
"Saudi Arabia’s energy minister said that a refining crunch — rather than any shortage of crude — is driving the surge in fuel costs to unprecedented levels. He added that the world is running out of energy capacity at all levels. "

13-May-22
6.43 for diesel today in MA

13-May-22
The last time we really cut consumer demand the government said the price increase was due to low sales volume. The truth is an elusive critter.

From: Beendare
13-May-22
I'm done arguing with KS Flatlander and BEG.

BEG says prices aren't going up....then we get another new high today.

KS Flat is talking in circles....anyone with 1/2 a brain can see things have changed with Biden policy including the docs and links I posted.......hell Biden told us many times he was going to war with the oil companies...and he did.

From: KSflatlander
13-May-22
“KS Flat is talking in circles....anyone with 1/2 a brain can see things have changed with Biden policy including the docs and links I posted.......hell Biden told us many times he was going to war with the oil companies...and he did.”

Said the guy that thought NEPA was an agency. You want to create your own alternate reality…go for it.

From: bigeasygator
14-May-22
Demand is real low when there is zero supply

That’s not how demand works.

BEG will tell us the direct opposite of what the nation is feeling and why

No, I’m giving you the reasons why the country is feeling what they are. Everyone else wants to point the finger at Biden and think all of our problems start and end there.

Yes, there is a diesel “shortage,” but the reasons why are many faceted. It is largely regional in nature (Northeast) where refining capacity has shrunk and there is increased demand domestically and abroad (see Europe) for diesel. These combined factors result in a “shortage” and are why prices are what they are.

14-May-22
Policy restricting refineries are why we are where we are. That’s just the simple truth. That started long before Biden. But, he’s done nothing but reenforce it with his attitude and policies.

I don’t blame him for it all. But, I don’t have my lips permanently glued to his posterior either.

The POTUS is supposed to represent the best interests of the citizens of this country. Not enact policy that further curtails our quality of life.

From: KSflatlander
14-May-22
“Demand is real low when there is zero supply.“

I think this is the dumbest statement I’ve seen in decades.

From: bigeasygator
14-May-22
Agree with all of that, WVM.

14-May-22
“ I think this is the dumbest statement I’ve seen in decades.”

Said a guy whose been hammered on other threads for the same thing! Lol…We’ll see what Memorial Day weekend brings, as for traffic, I see the same amount and then some….Lowest for Diesel right at $6.11 highest was $6.69 at least around here!

From: KSflatlander
14-May-22

14-May-22
I have read all of this..... None of you who disagree, are going to convince the other,,,, You have your beliefs and you are dug in,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, But here is the reality, from a successful investor,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I can and try to make money, no matter who is in charge, but will admit, the current regime, is not too smart,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

They could open all of Alaska and the entire United States tomorrow, and it will not make a difference, because no one is going to invest, in all that needs to be done, under an administration, that could cancel it all out at anytime............ Currently this regime, has decided, that we need to rid ourselves of fossil fuels, of course they have no alternatives yet.....................................

Currently those who are 10 years or less out from retirement, are getting hit the hardest..... My young daughters, are buying cheap, and can make it thru....... Those on fixed retired incomes, will gain the most, I mean look at what an I bond or T note is paying right now, and CDs will rise quickly................................

Their are morons on both sides, but this administration, is the worst I have ever seen in my 73 years of life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I believe it will change around, but we are living in dangerous times,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Biden is so radical, he does not even like Susan Rice, who behind the scenes, knows he is mishandling the border......................

From: Beendare
14-May-22
Good post GH 50.

There are so many scenarios where this can turn really bad….and the Dem politicians started this ball rolling. The EU is now saying they will boycott Russian oil…even Germany. No comments on nat gas …many in the EU are terribly dependent on that as its hard to substitute.

What happens with the commodity traders hedges? Russian commodity traders had their assets confiscated right? What if they say we can’t pay? How many of these commodity traders are leveraged- the problem here is we have no idea. What happens if Russia cannot sell to enough oil to where they have to cap wells…its my understanding they don’t have a massive storage infrastructure?

There are so many ways this could go really bad….and look at the idiots we have in Washington?

Im holding a bunch of cash with much of my investments in energy that are way up already. I hate buying high but I might have to increase that this next week.

14-May-22
I'm buying regular diesel at the pump for less than our normal supplier's price to deliver offroad diesel for the farm. Customers are wanting to get expected pricing for this years crop. All I can tell them is be prepared.

From: bigeasygator
15-May-22
I haven’t given any tips. I’ve told you all why prices are high. I haven’t argued they aren’t high.

For a multitude of reasons, I promise people are better served listening to me than to you, who is simultaneously making the argument we have low demand and high prices and who made probably the single most ignorant statement on this thread (“Demand is real low when there is zero supply”). You clearly have zero idea what you’re talking about and don’t understand the basics of supply, demand, and their effects on prices.

15-May-22
I may not like it, but I listen to BEG! ;-) Not like anyone can do anything about it...It is, what it is!

From: bigeasygator
15-May-22

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Opinion pure and simple and the facts to lower demand on oil is helping decrease world price

Again, you show your cluelessness. All of the benchmark crudes move more or less together. Oil is a globally traded commodity, and as such price movements trend each other (unlike natural gas, where the differences between geographic markets are much larger as the logistics in moving gas are much more complex and expensive).

There is no “global” price and “USA” price. There are different benchmarks (Brent, WTI) which garner different prices (due to quality and minor differences in logistical costs to bring to market), but they will trend nearly identically and the price discrepancy is relatively small. “Global” prices are not falling. They are doing exactly what they are doing here in the USA.

15-May-22
All I really care about is how much it will be starting in August and September…As that’s when I’ll start hunting! I’ve already added rising fuel cost to my budget, simple!

From: bigeasygator
15-May-22

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All I really care about is how much it will be starting in August and September…As that’s when I’ll start hunting! I’ve already added rising fuel cost to my budget, simple!

Current future prices show a slight decrease towards the end of the summer (~5%).

From: bigeasygator
15-May-22
There sure is if refinement slows. If you think refinement will speed up form Joe this election cycle or next your clueless.

What “sure is”?? Per usual, your responses are unintelligible and make no sense, Shawn.

Ever pour WTI straight in your tank?

If you don’t understand the elements that go into the price of a gallon of gas and the outsized role the price of crude oil plays in that equation, you’re even more clueless than I thought. Temporary dislocations aside (hurricanes, etc) movement of the price of crude is nearly all that matters when it comes to movement in prices at the pump.

From: bigeasygator
15-May-22
If you have not seen this in this business you have not worked long in it.

Only 20 years, Shawn. Again, you seem to have no idea of the decision making process around the integrated oil/gasoline supply chain and what motivates companies. You can’t make money if you’re shut down and shut in. Pretty basic stuff there, bud. That’s why you do these things when seasonal demand is lower. It’s a reaction to the market, not a way to manipulate it.

15-May-22
I am budgeting for 6.00 a gallon, in the fall, from the UP, to Iowa and points west, and south

From: TRnCO
16-May-22
Just heard on the radio that gas prices hit a new high of $4.43/gal.

Yee Haw...Thanks Joe......for doing all you can do to lower the prices....

From: RK
16-May-22
Two things that are impossible to find these days, cheap gas and anyone that will admit voting for Biden.

Hard to believe 81 million people can hide so well

From: Orion
16-May-22
I agree RK haven't seen one Biden bumper sticker. I did see lots of Hillary ones and still do on occassion but have yet to spot one Biden sticker or sign anywhere.

From: Beendare
16-May-22
I'm done arguing with KS Flatlander and BEG.

BEG says prices aren't going up....then we get another new high today.

KS Flat is talking in circles....anyone with 1/2 a brain can see things have changed with Biden policy including the docs and links I posted.......hell Biden told us many times he was going to war with the oil companies...and he did.

From: Orion
16-May-22
Yeah not sure why guys are arguing when Biden has been on record and publicly stated he was going to war and wanting to end fossil fuels.

From: bigeasygator
16-May-22
I'm done arguing with KS Flatlander and BEG. BEG says prices aren't going up

I said they are likely to trend down over the course of the year, I didn’t say they will never ever increase ever again which seems to be what you think I’ve said.

16-May-22
if you think this was inevitable and would have happened under Trump you are fos.

16-May-22
Just wish they'd pick a number and stick with it, preferably lower...Lol Topped off this morning at $6.11, just went by and it's now $6.21...

From: Orion
16-May-22
That's rough guess i shouldn't complain about our 4.49 this morning

From: RK
16-May-22
$4.09 texas coast this morning

16-May-22
4.19 today,,,, Wisconsin...................

From: Jeff Durnell
16-May-22
New record. 4.69 today in Butler Pa... and CLIMBING! Things are bad. I'm sad.

Slo-joe and his team of anti-American miscreants OWNS this.... whether the dumb#×@£ knows it or not. And this is just the tip of the iceburg. It will get worse. We WILL return fire, jerkoff. UltraMaga, loser.

Treason much?

16-May-22
Short term gentlemen. Short term. That’s the basis for ignorant talk and expectations.

16-May-22
Primary here on June 7th, not holding my breath...

16-May-22
$4.89 n central Wyoming yesterday morning ...Toyota doesn't care at all....$100 bucks to billings n back. Feel the suck!!!!

16-May-22
^^^That’s about the funniest thing I’ve read about this. ^^^^^

I feel your pain brother.

From: Jaquomo
16-May-22
$3.85 at the Costco in NoCo.

17-May-22
^^^ I remember those days…Lol

From: Knifeman
17-May-22
$4.49 at West Bend WI Kwik Trip yesterday afternoon. Its even starting to hurt me in my little work van with a 12 gallon tank.

From: Rocky D
17-May-22
Don’t worry, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos have pinned the tail on donkey!

The U. S. cannot figure out the huge disparity of prices within the country nevertheless what controls the world market.

You have to give BEG credit for his Psakiesque performance.

In reality his information was more factual and thus more believable than hers.

From: bigeasygator
17-May-22

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Oil at a seven week high. Spot from March are almost dead on.

This sentence makes no sense. Spot prices are the current price of an asset. There is no such thing as a March spot price. Spot prices in March fluctuated between $90-115/bbl. Again, the sentence above makes literally no sense.

We now just below alltime record crude prices. Yeah, BEG new what he was talking. Here’s a prediction he made “prices willl go down”.

This coming from the guy who predicted $200/bbl. Let’s see who’s closer at the end of the year.

Thanks for that. Got a graph for us? Sure you work on an oil derrick?…

Yep, He could make one believe USA is pumping more fields, refining at 200% Warp Speed, and new leases in every coast.

A derrick is part of a rig. Nobody would say they work on a derrick. And no I don’t work in the field.

Rig count is rising, production is rising, and will continue to do so with prices at this level. Again, given the fiscal discipline shown by the industry, it’s not going to rise at the rate it was and with elevated demand, the market will remain tight and I (along with the market) expect prices to fall only modestly.

From: Nemophilist
17-May-22
"The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them".

From: KSflatlander
17-May-22
Kind of like Trump telling everyone he represents middle class Americans…

From: Rocky D
17-May-22
“ Kind of like Trump telling everyone he represents middle class Americans…”

The left has turned enemy to the people with their constant tribal politics which on division!

After all the proven heinous behavior how can you still support the left?

From: bigeasygator
17-May-22
Well look at that, supposedly “not Shawn” aka Static aka 59bear just had all “their” posts deleted…weird. *rollingeyeemoji*

From: KSflatlander
17-May-22
“After all the proven heinous behavior how can you still support the left?“

I don’t. I support the candidate that is the best choice or the least of 2 evils is more like it lately.

I swear for those (like Shawn) who rail against socialism (mostly a scare tactic)…they sure don’t like capitalism either. They want the government to step in the market and run the oil companies. Some people are not happy unless they are mad. LMAO.

From: Rocky D
17-May-22
“ I support the candidate that is the best choice or the least of 2 evils is more like it lately.”

If you voting candidates instead of platforms in these times you may want to reconsider your strategy.

17-May-22
Bottom line to all the Trump haters,,,, most did not like his personality etc, but liked his policies............... Simple truth is,,,,,,, Quite complaining about Trump,,,,, Man up, he is not in charge....... Your boy Biden is and the country has rejected his progressive policies

This country is not better off, and even the biggest dope in the world knows it.....

A moderate, commone sense Democrat, would not even taken us, where we are. this dope has not been right on anything, for 50 years. He has been carried by his state, to do a useless job in Washington, like many, others..........................

their are useless political whores on both sides.............. Lindsey Graham is a prime example,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

This country needs leadership,,,, who will step up,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and I dont care what side they come from........................

From: KSflatlander
17-May-22
Seriously…you think all Rs and Ds vote the party platform? I think maybe you should reconsider your strategy. Was the Trump biggest socialist spend in U.S. history part of the R platform? Should I name others on both sides. What’s his name? Manchin?

Back to gas. You all say Biden is doing nothing to bring gas prices down immediately. You want the government in the oil market forcing companies to invest capital and start pumping? What about capitalism and smaller government?

The low demand through the pandemic and the rapid increase in late 2021 and 2022 drove the price up. BEG stated that and backed it up. Nobody else can back up their BS. And WV cheerleading is not backing it up…BOOM! LMAO.

17-May-22
And then we have your girl friend, Kamala,,,,, We all have to be together, to face this all together, as we are together, to win this together,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Would you hire her to lead at your company,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I think not

Bottom line, the American people will vote, and speak,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, thats all we got

Those who believe in what we have, have their heads in the sand, but thats okay,,,,, The rejection will come,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

From: Rocky D
17-May-22
“ I support the candidate that is the best choice or the least of 2 evils is more like it lately.”

If you voting candidates instead of platforms in these times you may want to reconsider your strategy.

From: itshot
17-May-22
if we can make safe smoking kits available quick , we can certainly do more for the desperate normal folks like the pregnant men that need to get to their ob/gyn appts, and the pregnant women that need to get to their fetal cell elimination appts

demand free transportation for pregnant citizens NOW! Come on Joe!

From: KSflatlander
17-May-22
Itshot- it sounds like you are in menopause. The hot flashes will pass soon.

17-May-22
“ Well look at that, supposedly “not Shawn” aka Static aka 59bear just had all “their” posts deleted…weird. *rollingeyeemoji*”

Ha, no way…Think they missed one though, Lol

18-May-22
$5.59 Reg $6.25 Diesel…As of today!

From: Mint
18-May-22
If Biden is for middle class Americans please bring back Trump since i'm getting killed by all of Biden's help.

Seriously, I'm lucky enough to make a great salary but a lot of middle class Americans are really hurting. For the first time in a long time I've seen people put $10 and $20 at the pump rather than fill up the tank. Same thing with the grocery stores.

as for Biden helping out oil companies, No i want him to get out of the way, stop putting his hand on the green energy scale and stop strangling them with regulations. As a CPA/Controller/CFO I've seen how excess regulations add excess costs without accomplishing anything at all.

18-May-22

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From: KSflatlander
18-May-22
What about “he’s a cut and paste meme posting idiot?” That works too…I mean it doesn’t take a whole lot of brain cells.

18-May-22
Oh flatbrimmer, is that all you have?!? Pretty weak! Coming from you though, fits the bill…LMAO

“ Some people are not happy unless they are mad. LMAO.”

You were talking about yourself! Anyone getting worked up over memes has some serious issues, but we already knew that about you! You’re to serious, maybe you should try getting outside, maybe even hunting…Life is to short and you’re not going to make it out alive…

From: Beendare
18-May-22
Well if we’ve learned anything we learn it’s not what they say it’s what they do.

Biden spoke last week saying he is fighting inflation. Today Gensler the SEC head is proposing a bunch of additional regulations for businesses in the US to combat climate change and all of the other Obama policy items making an end run around the senate.

The Biden admin- which by now is there any doubt that its really the Obama admin in disguise- who weaponized the CDC, the Energy dept, the FBI, the EPA is now going to exacerbate the already terrible inflation by hammering American business.

This will drive up the cost of everything…or at least keep prices elevated, inc fuel.

I swear, you couldnt wreck this country any worse than this current puppet admin. Thankfully, Xi has his hands full in China or we would probably be taking it in both orifices right now.

From: scentman
18-May-22
MTPA, Make Trump President Again! The Great Maga King... I love it!

From: Beendare
20-May-22
Senate hearings with (worthless) The Sec of Energy;

And this is the result…

Interior Secretary Deb Haaland struggled to explain a memo from HER department calling for the shut down of new oil leases during a hearing on Biden’s 2023 budget request before the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee.

Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) on Thursday confronted Haaland: “The US Department of Interior just put out a statement and the statement basically says, a proposed program is not a decision to issue specific leases or to authorize any drilling or development. This is from ya’lls office, so it looks like you want to shut everything down…did you know your office put this out?

Secretary Haaland sat in silence and looked like a deer in headlights before muttering a few words.

“I am sorry, and am sitting in this hearing and not….” My God! This shuts it down!” Manchin said looking around the room in shock.

.

From: Rocky D
20-May-22
“ Interior Secretary Deb Haaland struggled to explain a memo from HER department calling for the shut down of new oil leases during a hearing on Biden’s 2023 budget request before the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee.”

Jaquomo, called her out early with a post and the libs caterwauled!

From: Beendare
20-May-22
Again watch what they Do…not what they say.

Obama/Soros puppet appointed the Halaand with no qualifications only because she was a woman and a Native American.

He appoints that Rachel Levine to sec of education the transvestite or whatever you want to call him.

The AG Garland is more concerned with going after PTA members and MAGA folks than terrorists.

This new press secretary is clueless

His ministry of disinformation did not last very long with the woman that was the queen of disinformation running it.

This Homeland secretary turns a blind eye to millions of immigrants flooding the border along with enough fentanyl to kill every American 5x over, cocaine and other drugs

Literally every person he appoints is to destroy America.

Sorry for the rant. I think what shocks me the most is there’s a big percentage of Democrat voters that literally don’t see whats going on.

.

From: bigswivle
20-May-22
JP Morgan expects fuel to be over 6.20 by august which probably mean 7$ diesel fuel. Will change what I do for a living for sure, food prices this fall will be even more crazy if this continues.

From: scentman
20-May-22
Big changes coming to American families, the likes we haven't heard of since the Great Depression.

20-May-22

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Topped off today at $6.25…The other stations! We don’t go there…Lol I’m lucky to have a high volume station close by and somehow they’re keeping prices somewhat normal I guess…

20-May-22
I believed in Trump policies and voted for more of them. I do not like Trump's personality, but that has no bearing on conducting business as president. Peace through strength! Too bad so many of you are in love with the lib/socialist soccer moms, rather than hockey moms. Toughen up!

From: BowSniper
20-May-22

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If you are fed up, Amazon delivers....

From: Dano
20-May-22
Fuel stations on west coast are preparing station price placards for a second digit to the left of the decimal place. Guess they know something is coming. Dano

From: grizz
21-May-22
As I sit and watch the eminent destruction of our country and the insertion of a police state, I’m amazed at the seemingly intelligent hunters and property owners on here that are too stupid to see it happening. Do you seriously think you’ll have any rights left if we don’t stop this shet from happening. Put your dumbass charts and graphs away and open your eyes to what’s happening around you. I realize communist are brain dead and can’t be reasoned with, so I’ve probably just wasted the last three minutes.

From: grizz
21-May-22
As I sit and watch the eminent destruction of our country and the insertion of a police state, I’m amazed at the seemingly intelligent hunters and property owners on here that are too stupid to see it happening. Do you seriously think you’ll have any rights left if we don’t stop this shet from happening. Put your dumbass charts and graphs away and open your eyes to what’s happening around you. I realize communist are brain dead and can’t be reasoned with, so I’ve probably just wasted the last three minutes.

21-May-22
Sure Grizz, what are ‘you’ doing about it?!?

From: grizz
21-May-22
At my age, I’m a voice crying in the wilderness. I cry out loud and make no apologies.

From: Beendare
21-May-22

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Yeah…but according to BEG it has nothing to do with Bidens policy

21-May-22
Anyone who voted for Biden (or a no vote), has to feel pretty stupid about now. You let America down.

21-May-22
GasBuddy is your friend…

From: buckhammer
22-May-22
If energy prices stabilize or continue to rise the pain that consumers are experiencing now is nothing to the pain they will experience this coming winter when it is time to heat their homes.

With the rising cost of everyday living expenses these homeowners have no disposable income left at the end of the month. Very few homeowners have ever budgeted for home heating as it historically has been cheap. Specifically natural gas. It was that disposable income at the end of the month that paid the heat bill. The days of heating your home on the cheap are over with.

I have 2 neighbors that heat with fuel oil. They both purchased fuel oil the first week of April. Each took the minimum delivery of 150 gallons and bought from 2 separate suppliers. The one neighbors bill was $720 the other neighbor $726. If you include taxes and delivery in figuring the average per gallon that makes it $4.80 a gallon. I asked them how long 150 gallons would last during the coldest part of winter. Neither one would give me a specific answer. They just said "not long."

Another friend of mine heats with natural gas. Her natural gas usage was the same in March of 22 as it was in March of 21 yet her bill was 30% higher.

I heat with firewood but all of my appliances are propane. I use around 280 gallons every 8 to 9 months. Late last summer I locked in a delivery for March of this year for $1.99 a gallon. I don't have any specific numbers from my supplier for this year but I have read on other forums that I visit that there are people being quoted propane for this years delivery in the $3 to $3.50 range.

22-May-22
$5.18 for home heating oil #2 .. $4.21/gal for propane …. $5.46 if you don’t use the minimum per year

From: scentman
22-May-22
Everyone knows that Global warming has greatly reduced the severity of our winters... furnaces and wood stoves will be things of the past, along with gas vehicles. What are you guys worried about, don't you trust Uncle Joe? I mean he grew up in Scranton.

From: 'Ike'
22-May-22
Spoke to soon...$6.11 last week to $6.31 this weekend! Diesel

22-May-22
Ike i just paid 6.49 in Massachusetts for diesel…this is getting old fast

From: Woods Walker
22-May-22
And....it's only just BEGINNING!!! In a year this will seem like the good 'ol days.

What else do you expect when your country is being run by a lying, corrupt, anti-American political party who HATES us and all we stand for and believe in?

22-May-22
Right on Lou !

22-May-22
Yeah MA, most around here are at your price or higher, right in the $6.69 range…I’ve just been lucky with the station that’s closest to me! The other one, which is Costco is at $6.19!

From: Orion
22-May-22
Come on guys you know Biden and all the these dems in office right now all love and support fossil fuels. This is because of demand because nobody traveled or used gas before COVID. Let's not even get started on the natural gas racket.

22-May-22
$191.00 and change to fill up my diesel this morning. Let me repeat that. $191 and change to fill up one of my work trucks.

Government policy is one of the sole reasons we are here. And, don’t let anyone convince you differently.

What is the federal tax on gas and diesel? That’s the first sucker punch right there. Add in a party/ government that fully intends to punish Americans for driving cars fueled by fossil fuels, and this is what you get.

Green energy. Cars run by batteries charged by fossil fuel created energy. That’s the sense of this horse crap. And, everyone knows it can’t be done. But, pawns we are to the interests of our lobbied politicians. Had enough yet?

I bet the mean ole orange man wouldn’t have played along with this so nicely. But, a totally incompetent man, who has twice failed at being elected president, who couldn’t get enough people to show at his rallies to even have them, supposedly beat the one guy in the last 30 years that promised to ensure these coincidences weren’t a way of life. Sound about right?

From: bigswivle
22-May-22
What could this administration do to make it cheaper? Short term? If gas is still 6$+ in august, the Dems are really gonna get smashed in mid terms. That’s got to be in this administrations mind, this is not sustainable

22-May-22
Nothing, they can do nothing right now and that’s been pointed out…Now in CA, Gruesom could waive our outrageous gas tax, but not going to happen…People argue, but it really does seem as they (Dems) just don’t care…

Diesel guys, are you running any additives? I’ve used Opti-Lube pretty much from the beginning…Summer Blend adds Cetane, plus a host of other advantages especially with the CP4 pump…Has added to MPG as well!

22-May-22
I add a bottle of Howell’s diesel additive every oil change. And a quart of two cycle oil. It’s for lubrication. Don’t know why my motor builder advised that. Just know so far, he’s built a great motor.

22-May-22
No additives in use for me ike

22-May-22
That’s pretty interesting WV!

From: bigeasygator
23-May-22
What could this administration do to make it cheaper? Short term?

Short of forcing companies to start spending money and producing accelerating the rate at which production is ramping up…pretty much nothing. The forces at play here have little to do with the man in the Oval Office and there’s little he can do to actually make gas cheaper.

23-May-22
Any oil company CEO that spent on exploration and speculation under the Biden admin should be fired by the board. He is openly hostile to oil. That’s why they won’t expand production any time soon.

I wish Biden would use the same tactics with university’s. Instead of the government loaning money to prop up higher and higher tuition and professor salaries. His answer is to have tax payers pay for someone’s 5 psychology degrees.

Instead of going after big oil. Perhaps he should go after big education. Which has owned the Democrats for decades. Teachers unions through the University’s

From: Rocky D
23-May-22
“ Short of forcing companies to start spending money and producing accelerating the rate at which production is ramping up…pretty much nothing”

How about a moratorium on federal gas tax and a recommendation for states to do likewise or at least some of it.

I guess do nothing will do nothing unless his supporters something from the big guy…

I mean you did say nothing but sadly leadership is an amazing thing and I totally disagree with you and your week azz president!

He could change his messaging and address the problem with a sympathetic tone instead of buckle up for the ride.

He could step down and say that he is not up to the task!

From: bigeasygator
23-May-22
Moratorium on what?

From: Rocky D
23-May-22
Federal and state gas taxes

From: Rocky D
23-May-22
“ Instead of going after big oil. Perhaps he should go after big education”

Absolutely, the get a degree mantra is not meeting the expectations. Just saw some survey where they asked college students what their first job will pay and the average was $103K.

From: bigeasygator
23-May-22
Federal and state gas taxes

Would love to see it. Would save about 18 cents off of current gas prices, so not sure it’s really easing the pain much. Also there’s the issue of Congress having to do it, not Biden.

And, again, I didn’t vote for him. He’s your president as much as he is mine, Rocky.

23-May-22
Rocky, Even worse, look what the inner city kids get for an education in this country. We spend far above any other country on socialized education. I think we all know it’s by design. Keep people down so they need a savior to vote for.

23-May-22
Who here are the losers that voted for this administration, or wasted their vote on a candidate who had no chance to win?

From: Rocky D
23-May-22
“ nstead of going after big oil. Perhaps he should go after big education”

Absolutely, the get a degree mantra is not meeting the expectations. Just saw some survey where they asked college students what their first job will pay and the average was $103K.

From: BowSniper
23-May-22
Remember during all this Biden is dumping a million barrels a day from the strategic reserves.

Imagine the price tag to refill THAT later!!!!

From: Woods Walker
23-May-22
"What could this administration do to make it cheaper? Short term?"

Resign, move to Canada and put Trump back in office.

But that's about as likely as Biden doing a single ****ing thing to help Americans!!!!!!!!!

What we should have done is had Biden's fingers chopped off so the SOB couldn't sign any executive orders!!!

From: scentman
23-May-22
I totally agree Bigswivle, we all know this administration is all for getting rid of fossil fuels and support the wind and solar experiment that Al Gore "created" ;0) We must come to the conclusion that prices will be higher at the midterms, thus starting the process to have Trump back in office come 2025... by pushing this insane notion that electric is the be all solution to energy will be the demise of the Democrats for coming elections.

From: Woods Walker
23-May-22
Well...not unless with get rid of mail in ballots and ballot harvesting. These bastids will stop at NOTHING to get the power they crave over the people they hate.

From: Dano
23-May-22
Got to many Never Trumper Boomers here. Lots of these lessons were learned in the mid 1970's with Democrats and oil shortages. The Jimmy/Joe Lessons Learned should of applied here. Jimmy tried to tax his way out of the mess. Joe just created one and clearly made it a bunch worse but Putin helped him with Joe's Woke war on Fossil Fuels.

Look at all the similarities with Jimmy/Joe administrations. Weak Liberal=Aggressive Russian Invasion+Iranian Mullah's emboldened. This has all been played out before and it always ends when a sane conservative US government projects power, security, and a strong economy and dollar. All which are lacking with Jimmy?Joe.

Will we see Joe tax oil well heads like Jimmy did next? Dano

From: scentman
23-May-22
Lou, I had that in the back of my mind while typing my post, but if that happens again irreparable damage will be done to our great country... pray good prevails.

From: Woods Walker
23-May-22
Will do!!

23-May-22
BEG, summer still looking the same, any changes?

From: bigeasygator
23-May-22
BEG, summer still looking the same, any changes?

Futures contracts for the summer months are down a few percent (3-5% based on the month) from last time I posted them a few weeks ago.

23-May-22
Thanks...

From: Dano
23-May-22
Lets talk refinement shut down and maintenace. Exxon has one part shut down til June. I will guess several more will go down and a hurricane shutdown or two.

The price of oil distillates was cheaper when the barrel was selling for $123/brl. Joe did this. Dano

23-May-22
How did Slo Joe cause a shut down for maintenance...Every year occurrence...Lol I am waiting for a refinery breakdown, we usually see one this time of year in the Bay Area…Hopefully not though!

From: Dano
24-May-22
Joe just came out and said what we all here been saying for awhile now.

This has all been the plan from his administrations start to drive up the price of everything thru the war on fossil fuels. What was his line other day ?

"Here’s the situation. And when it comes to the gas prices, we’re going through an incredible transition that is taking place that, God willing, when it’s over, we’ll be stronger and the world will be stronger and less reliant on fossil fuels when this is over"

Pretty clear there.

The oil companies will give a July-Oct surprise to ol lunch Box Joe and we will be the ones paying for it.

Dano

24-May-22
The rapid fuel price inflation was the plan, that drives alternative energy sources. Some of you idiots voted for this pre planned rapid inflation, now live with it!

24-May-22
Others voted for independents and wasted your votes, you really enabled Biden to win. Worse yet, some did not vote at all. Live with it my friends!

From: Lawdog
24-May-22
If oil is going the way of the dodo bird, we'll be looking to build more electric (battery) vehicles of all types. Those all use lithium. The supply of lithium is also finite and apparently more finite than oil and fossil fuel. Some report a maybe 50 year supply. Then what?? I have to agree with Dano on his point. Escalating the price of oil is the plan. I question the result. Whether we like it or not, the price of fossil fuels affects the price of almost everything else. And, China is the elephant in the room as the largest producer of lithium batteries. China has also been buying up the mining interests for lithium. Stronger, more secure America and the world? I'm not seeing it. But, I'm sure China is applauding the U.S.'s foresight (sarcasm).

24-May-22
I get that idea of being frustrated that people voted for Biden. I feel the same. But, it glosses over the reality that according to the actual facts of this past presidential election, Biden likely didn’t have the votes to be elected.

I’m sure there are many who don’t believe that. And, I’m not interested in what state supreme courts ruled. It was contradictory to the evidence that tampering was highly likely. The courts just didn’t have enough character to uphold the obvious.

So, anyone to blind to even consider connecting the dots that all this is much more likely to be an orchestrated plan versus coincidence, is frankly to ignorant to warrant as relevant.

And, I frankly believe most Americans would agree with that.

From: bigswivle
24-May-22
Over 10$ a hundred getting cattle out of Florida now. Get ready for 50$ hamburgers

From: Beendare
24-May-22
We will never have a legit government that is, “For the People” until we have an educated voter base.

A little bit of research goes a long way. Biden had never done anything significant in half a century of politics. None of those that voted for him asked, “ Why are they hiding him?”

We need voters to understand the economics. A $5Trillion dollar social spending bill now is borrowing against our standard of living down the road.

Its unfortunate but; This high inflation will educate many- the hard way- into realizing the realities of massive gov spending and more government. The Dems try to obfuscate and confuse voters with divisive politics so they will take their eye off of whats important.

Hopefully we will get smarter as a country….

From: KsRancher
24-May-22
Bigswivle. I wish that inputs for feeder cattle affected the price of live cattle. The high fuel will affect meat prices in the store, but not what the fat cattle bring. Like you said meat prices are high, but fats are flat or coming down a little

From: bigswivle
24-May-22
I agree ks. Retailers are gonna make up for inflation on there end, unfortunately in the produce business farmers can’t just hike up prices. My input cost went up over 20% this year and my product sold for less money than last year but in the store they were charging more than last years retail price. When we ask for a little help the response is “we’ll just get it from Mexico”

From: Dano
24-May-22
New National fuel record high today yet again. Hard to think that 42 gal barrel is 100 times more costly under Lunch Box than under 45? Dano

24-May-22

'Ike' (Phone)'s embedded Photo
'Ike' (Phone)'s embedded Photo
Traded it, straight up! I can get 70MPG on this hog...Soon, very soon...LMAO

From: Dano
25-May-22
Went from surplus oil trading at zero $ a barrel to these Joe Prices. People are pissed. Lots of Joe stickers on gas pumps all over. Like the ones when you pull the handle out the pump flap falls and there's Joe "i did that" pointing at you.

Where's that 75$ per barrel oil at? Dano

From: Mad Trapper
27-May-22
The press has reported that Biden is begging opec and the South American producers to increase production. Presumably that would help. The press has also reported that the keystone pipeline would have been able to supply nearly a million barrels a day? upon completion. Biden stopped it. Presumably that is something that he could do. I would rather get oil from Canada than opec and the South American dictators.

27-May-22
Old news Mad…OPEC won’t take Slo Joe’s calls and yes he has been trolling around in Venezuela…Or was!

From: bigeasygator
27-May-22
Went from surplus oil trading at zero $ a barrel…

If you think oil trading at zero dollars a barrel is good for anybody (which is what you seem to be implying), you’re even more clueless than I realized, Shawn.

From: bigeasygator
27-May-22
Went from surplus oil trading at zero $ a barrel…

If you think oil trading at zero dollars a barrel is good for anybody (which is what you seem to be implying), you’re even more clueless than I realized, Shawn.

From: RK
27-May-22
Dang. I did not realize Daño was Shawn. I thought the cancel Nazis got rid of Shawn. Congrats for slipping past the Demons at the gate. Have a meaningful Memorial Day !!

From: Dano
27-May-22
Plenty of Twatwafflers out there that think they are experts on any given sunject but they are in their bubbles like in WA DC, Hollywood, ECO Lab's, Twitter Feeds. Often miss the reality on the ground.

You could of watched any energy futures expert on any the MSM outlets and got the information on the Oil Situation. They often know or have the knowledge to know all the global impacts, political impacts and human impacts of the difference in the base Oil barrel price and what we all will for Oil distillates and those prices. Dano

From: Mad Trapper
27-May-22
The press has reported that Biden is begging opec and the South American producers to increase production. Presumably that would help. The press has also reported that the keystone pipeline would have been able to supply nearly a million barrels a day? upon completion. Biden stopped it. Presumably that is something that he could do. I would rather get oil from Canada than opec and the South American dictators.

From: Orion
27-May-22
People like bigeasy and ksflatlander seem content that we are negotiating with communist crap holes for oil production.

From: buckhammer
27-May-22
It appears that $4.50 a gallon gas is not a deterrent for peoples travel plans. The roads here in Michigan were bumper to bumper with people traveling north.

Lots and lots of pick up trucks pulling a travel trailer, boat or flat bed trailer packed with UTV's or ATV"s.

I could not see any difference in the amount of traffic today compared to when gas was $2.50 a gallon a couple of year ago.

27-May-22
No .10 bump today that I thought we might see…Not complaining mind you! Yeah, traffic is pretty steady here too…

From: bigeasygator
28-May-22
People like bigeasy and ksflatlander seem content that we are negotiating with communist crap holes for oil production.

I never said that. To me it’s silly to look to increase production beyond our borders before we attempted to do so within them. With that said, the administration can’t force domestic producers to spend more money if they don’t want to so I don’t see a way that Biden can really do anything to bring more oil to market (in a substantial way during the short term). The oil production in the likes of Venezuela, Iran, etc are actually state controlled and the government can indeed do something about their production output. Again, output in the USA is all controlled by private entities.

From: Rocky D
28-May-22
“ To me it’s silly to look to increase production beyond our borders before we attempted to do so within them.”

BEG, come on man, put your thinking cap on!

Come on man, you mean to tell me that you see no way that that the U. S. Government in which Biden controls both the house and the senate has zero means of incentivizing the oil industry!

Come on man, you are telling us that Biden couldn’t attempt to cutdown on government controlled red tape!

Come on man, you mean to tell us that the Biden administration cannot adjust there strategy on global warming. Let’s be honest they don’t even have a viable solution without China and India on board!

Come on man, with all the historical events that past administrations have overcome you cannot see any way for this administration to impact oil production in a positive way?

Come on man, please do not tell us that you voted for an administration that you think has zero effect on impacting oil production in a positive manner!

Come on man, obviously you are into standard engineering practices instead of truly creative engineering if you cannot come up with one potential solution to the problem other than supporting an administration who are currently trying to execute a strategy doomed for failure without the help of two of the largest Co2 producers!

Come on man, I guess the the old saying of “that the foundation of disappointment is expectation” applies so nothing expected equals no disappointment for BEG!

COME ON MAN!!!

From: Rocky D
28-May-22
“ To me it’s silly to look to increase production beyond our borders before we attempted to do so within them.”

BEG, come on man, put your thinking cap on!

Come on man, you mean to tell me that you see no way that that the U. S. Government in which Biden controls both the house and the senate has zero means of incentivizing the oil industry!

Come on man, you are telling us that Biden couldn’t attempt to cutdown on government controlled red tape!

Come on man, you mean to tell us that the Biden administration cannot adjust there strategy on global warming. Let’s be honest they don’t even have a viable solution without China and India on board!

Come on man, with all the historical events that past administrations have overcome you cannot see any way for this administration to impact oil production in a positive way?

Come on man, please do not tell us that you voted for an administration that you think has zero effect on impacting oil production in a positive manner!

Come on man, obviously you are into standard engineering practices instead of truly creative engineering if you cannot come up with one potential solution to the problem other than supporting an administration who are currently trying to execute a strategy doomed for failure without the help of two of the largest Co2 producers!

Come on man, I guess the the old saying of “that the foundation of disappointment is expectation” applies so nothing expected equals no disappointment for BEG!

COME ON MAN!!!

From: bigeasygator
28-May-22
Come on man, you are telling us that Biden couldn’t attempt to cutdown on government controlled red tape!

I love the crowd that says “get rid of red tape” that literally has zero idea what regulations even exist in the industry. Go ahead and tell me what red tape is holding back significant amounts of oil production right now? Until you can answer that, the rest of your questions are irrelevant.

And the candidate I voted for didn’t win, so, not surprisingly, your assumptions and accusations are wrong again, Rocky.

Come on man, obviously you are into standard engineering practices instead of truly creative engineering if you cannot come up with one potential solution to the problem other than supporting an administration who are currently trying to execute a strategy doomed for failure without the help of two of the largest Co2 producers!

I’m not supportive of the administration. Their energy policy sucks. But it has next to nothing to do with current prices and there ain’t a whole lot they can do to change the current situation. As much as you and others like to end your critical thinking at “Biden bad!”, the reality as it pertains to oil supply and demand are far more complex than “Biden did it!”

From: Dano
28-May-22
I love guys that have worked the so called biz for decades and cant figure out what the Twatwaffle sitting the Sec of Interior is going to do with leases, lands, and regulation.

There is nothing this Woke Wabbit administration has not touched that not disintegrated. Solid BSers here Have refuted BEG's colorful pic's, bar graph all pointing to how Oil will slip back into normal price rhythms. Then, you have ear to the ground guys who been like Johnny said "every where Man" and have predicted the glide path of China Joe's War of Fossil Fuels to within a few dollars of the Friday's close.

Rocky this one will never get it until Nov 9th. Dano

From: bigeasygator
28-May-22

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Hilarious coming from the guy who predicted $160/bbl oil by the end of May and $200/bbl by the end of the year. Convenient all your posts get deleted, Shawn, as the record of how wrong you’ve been is generally lost. Generally, but not completely…

From: Grey Ghost
28-May-22
I saved that post too, Jason. Shawn was so proud of that chart, he even sent it to me in a PM. LOL!

Fuel prices don’t seem to be affecting vacationers in South Florida. Sanibel Island has been as busy as I’ve seen. The number of boats on the water this weekend is insane.

Matt

From: Rocky D
28-May-22
BEG, glad to hear how you feel!

Biden is bad much like Orange Man is bad!

When you are in charge that’s where the buck falls!

From: Rocky D
28-May-22

From: KSflatlander
28-May-22
I love when posters like Orion and Shawn (Dano) stand for capitalism then demand that the government control the price of oil.

Orion- your starting to sound like Shawn and that should alarm you.

I know…I know…forest fire.

From: bigeasygator
28-May-22
I love when posters like Orion and Shawn (Dano) stand for capitalism then demand that the government control the price of oil.

It’s almost as hilarious as when they claim that oil trading at record lows from demand plunging during the pandemic related economic collapse are a sign of strong policy.

From: Rocky D
28-May-22
Why is it so hard to believe that disgruntled, misinformed, common Americans wouldn’t be all over the place when they hear the leadership tell them to get ready to buckle down during this transition…

From: Beendare
28-May-22
I’m with you Rocky!

This puppet OBiden admin comes out of the gate attacking oil companies on every front…..Of course that will affect prices. The Democrats WANT high oil prices….so their Green initiative proposals look more palatable.

Europe is in a bad way with their energy security dependent on a Commie dictator.

Has anyone stopped to think where most of these solar panels come from? China. So O’Biden wants to make us dependent on China for the green initiative? Bad idea. ( reports of huge qty of Malaysian and Vietnamese panels originating in China to avoid tariffs)

This is the current Democrat party policy. They dont think anything through. They are modeling their policy after California and California has one disaster after another specially energy related.

Heres an example; CA’s Newsome decides to buy poor votes by letting everyone ride metro busses for free. The problem is, now all of the homeless are living on the busses and the seats have feces on them and the bus stinks so bad…working class folks don’t like using them.

This ^ is the current Dem party at work. Every policy decision is based on trying to buy votes.

.

From: Aspen Ghost
28-May-22
The underlying reason that the oil companies will not significantly increase production is Joe Biden and his crony's "Incredible Journey". The government is committed to reducing oil usage in this country. So obviously oil companies are not going to increase production. They will just enjoy the larger profit margin and wait. Over the next few years it's going to get bad unless there is a clear policy change.

From: 70lbDraw
28-May-22
“I love when posters like Orion and Shawn (Dano) stand for capitalism then demand that the government control the price of oil.”

True capitalism includes competition. Competition promotes reasonable pricing structure. Big oil currently has an open invitation to gouge the hell out of us.

From: bigeasygator
28-May-22
Big oil currently has an open invitation to gouge the hell out of us.

When oil was trading at record lows in 2020, and oil companies were going bankrupt and laying off thousands upon thousands of people, why didn’t oil companies just raise prices?

(Hint: it’s because oil companies have next to no control over what the price of oil or gas actually is, now or then)

From: KSflatlander
28-May-22
“The Democrats WANT high oil prices….so their Green initiative proposals look more palatable.“

You really think so lol. It’s going to cost them dearly in 2022 and likely in 2024. Anyone who draw the false choice of clean energy vs fossil fuels is full of s#%t. The future will always be both until renewables can be stored efficiently in the long term. Otherwise, oil and natural gas will be a part of our national energy policy.

Rocky D and Beendare- you sound like a Fox News, OANN, or Newsmax recap with every post. Think for yourselves and stop being hacks. Beendare sounds like bizzaro AOC.

From: Dano
28-May-22

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Dano's embedded Photo
Very common knowledge what drives oil prices besides to two main types of extraction. Dano

From: Orion
28-May-22
Big easy do you actually think getting oil from these third world communist crap holes is really going to drop the price at the pump? Do you also think these countries are going about as clean and regulated as we are in the U.S.?

From: KSflatlander
28-May-22
“Very common knowledge what drives oil prices besides to two main types of extraction. Dano“

Shawn- were those same price pressures there last year or the year when oil was way down? Absolutely. Then why was the price so low? Gee could it be a huge drop in demand through the pandemic.

28-May-22
KS,,,, I may not disagree with you, but following your posts, that may also reflect on yourself,,, who is no different........................ I am guiding a guy right now on steel head, who worked for Shell for 37 years,,,,, most of you, have about half truths out there.....

No one is working harder on renewables, than many in the industry,,, Why, because its the future, but you can not also just shut off the spigpot.........................

From: Orion
28-May-22
Flatlander was demand low in 2018, 2019, or early 2020 before COVID?

28-May-22

'Ike' (Phone)'s embedded Photo
'Ike' (Phone)'s embedded Photo

From: RonP
28-May-22
"“The Democrats WANT high oil prices….so their Green initiative proposals look more palatable.“ You really think so lol.""

Yes, I do and I don't watch or get my talking points from Fox, OANN (whatever that is?) or Newsmax. I simply listen to them when they speak about their agenda. Obama talked openly about wanting to shut down the coal industry and Biden recently within the last week or so talked about the transition away from fossil fuel.

It was/is their strategy for nationalized healthcare too. If anyone has saved $2500/year in healthcare cost because of and since the ACA passed, please speak up and post.

From: Rocky D
28-May-22
KS, I do not watch news because all that they are political talk shows.

I do not need any news agency to shape my thoughts on the Afghanistan withdrawal, assault on fossil fuels, and the establishment the climate strategy as the overarching strategy that all subordinate strategies must align with and support.

Do you really think that I want to here Pete Hegspeth talking world politics? A company commander doesn’t make you an expert on international relations or strategic military objectives. I want commentators to stay in their wheelhouse.

I can say the same thing for the Joy Behar show and the Reid out!

As far as being a political hack there is only one president and he has proven not only to be obstinate and ineffective but a colossal failure in sixteen months!

I can figure this out without any complex analysis. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck then more than likely it’s a duck!

Please show me where your comments show such profound objectivity or higher level critical thinking!

I will say you express yourself well but that is not critical thinking or complex analysis.

We listened for four years of bullshit about Trump but you damn sure do not want to here four years about Joe Biden!

From: bigeasygator
29-May-22
Big easy do you actually think getting oil from these third world communist crap holes is really going to drop the price at the pump? Do you also think these countries are going about as clean and regulated as we are in the U.S.?

No and no. I never said either of those things.

No one is working harder on renewables, than many in the industry,,, Why, because its the future, but you can not also just shut off the spigpot

This is very true on multiple fronts, groundhunter. The transition is going to take decades, and you need fossil fuels in that time period. Not only because you need the actual physical product and the energy they provide, but for you need the cash oil and gas generates to be able to find the next generation of low carbon technologies that are going to make the transition happen. That is our strategy at Shell (I wonder who you’re guiding - if he worked upstream for 37 years I probably crossed paths with him).

Now having said that, it’s also not quite as simple as that. We just sold our Permian assets to ConocoPhillips for $9.5bln last year. Did we use that money to grow oil production in other areas? No. Did we take that money and invest it in New Energy (renewables, etc)? No. We returned $7 bln of it to shareholders in the form of buybacks and dividends and used the remaining $2.5 bln to pay down debt. These are the types of decisions many producers are making to keep shareholders happy.

From: Dano
29-May-22
We dont run lead mines anymore what makes anyone think we will start mining Lithium whole hog for batteries. Any one with a couple brain cels knows you cant keep pushing everything to electric. We have no grid for it and even if so you would plenty standby fossil fuel burning turbines to create power when grids overload. No, fossil fuels and nukes are the only way to keep grid functioning as we move toward cleaner alternatives. The way this Administration just chopped the Oil and Gas industry with regulation is just backwards and probably hurt the successful transition to cleaner energy. As many here have said, BuckFoeJiden has not got anything right and it still on a path to catastrophic failures in all sectors of economy.

So you are a Shell empolyee. That sale at closing was more like 8.5 billion. Then they turned around and sold some of that staket o MNR, 144,00 acres. So, what? They will move oil out that land. Now Conoco wants to sell another huge chunk of their permian assets. So what? The auction process will go the best company to develop those assets. Buffet is in deep now with Oil. You can bet his holding company will be in on this auction. Matbe a good thing for USA.

Dano

From: KSflatlander
29-May-22
“ The way this Administration just chopped the Oil and Gas industry with regulation is just backwards and probably hurt the successful transition to cleaner energy.”

What new regulations are you speaking of?

From: Dano
29-May-22
What is ramifications of Shell's sale in the Permian you speaking of? Dano

From: bigeasygator
29-May-22

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The point was we didn’t reinvest that $9.5 bln to grow either our oil and gas business or our renewable business. We distributed the vast majority of it to shareholders. This is the whole point I’ve been making on why supply is only growing at a slow to moderate pace given these prices - it’s because companies are taking their excess cash and giving it back to investors, not growing the business. Our Permian deal and what we did with the cash is a microcosm of what the rest of the industry is doing with their cash now, whether a it’s being generated from operations or asset sales.

From: KSflatlander
29-May-22
That’s was I thought Shawn/Dano. You’re full of hot air and never did much thinking on your own. You know making stuff is also called lying. I thought Rangers had honor.

From: Dano
29-May-22
No answer to Conoco selling its stake in the Permian? They bought it and will auction a very large portion. Have already sold a big lot of it. So, what? Oil company cant do much if its not solvent and making $. Are you not the T_atwaffle that says "Oil companies make a lot less and spend alot more to do what they do"?

Even the AAA is saying $6/gal avg is likely buy end July. BOA and BH are out on paper as $120/brl in June. You should be happy yer a Shell guy. Seems yer not happy when Oild is zero $ a barrel or when Shell is making huge money on their Oil. So which is it? Your pocket cant square with your ideology? Green New Dealer making a fortune in the Oil business.

Russian getting rich of these Oil prices. Best thing we could do is unleash our Oil companies, frackers, pipelines and get these prices down! Will make Russia poor again and keep the war machine on the dump heap of history.

Wanna talk OPEC ? Demand is going to go up even with prices high. Jimmy Carter found that out the hard way. Opec even if it dumps another 500,000 barrels/day into production it will not change much. It will keep demand high and supply at current levels. They gonna ride this Broken Buck Foe Jiden donkey for the full eight seconds. They been here before. Demand will continue to rise as China comes outta lockdown and the world continues to return to pre Wuhan China Virus status. Opec not going to fight amongst themselves in the soft underbelly world of Buck Fiden.

Tighten them boot straps. The distillates refineries are going to slow up the process as they have a part to play in this as well. They need outcomes in November and short term pain will turn the voter away from the Green New Sqweel. That refinery slow down is right in BOA's analysis of short term Oil in their investment holdings. Thats the politics of Oil prices that out Liberals friends never see as they rage war on fossil fuels.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
29-May-22
Once again, your posts are borderline unintelligible, Shawn (no worries as “Dano” will be gone along with all these posts soon enough - though I’m sure to be replaced with another account that’ll be easy to pick out for the nonsensical garbage you post). Never said I wasn’t happy with oil prices - all I’ve said is they have little to do with Biden. The rest of your post either (1) makes no sense or no clear point, (2) is irrelevant to the conversation, or (3) is just flat out wrong.

From: Grey Ghost
29-May-22
Put $200 in my buddy’s bay boat this morning. Didn’t even look at the price. Whatever it was, it was worth it.

Matt

From: Dano
29-May-22
Yes, and you will at $10/gal. What Jimmy Carter found out the hard way in 1977. You cant make it to expensive for some Americans but it will be for a entire class of people. Your lack of empathy does not surprise us. Most people just shffle along and say this does not affect me until it does then their hair is on fire. They are called Liberals.

Now we did not think the Big Erroneous Gator would refute the hard facts of ever rising oil today did we? Dano

From: Dano
31-May-22
Highest Memorial Day week end fuel prices in the the history of the USA. Funny how those FEB price estimates are almost Spot on for end of May. EU markeys open at around 123/brl this morning. China going to start back up and EU gonna stop using Russian Oil. Cant wait til Hurricane season. Dano

From: bigeasygator
31-May-22

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What estimates are you talking about, Shawn? Cause the last predictions you made are off by about 30% right now. You’ve been calling for oil well north of $150/bbl by now and we’re predicting $200/bbl later in the year.

From: Dano
31-May-22
Seeing 2023 estimates and forecasts in the 240/brl ranges. Why Buffet bought in Oil heavy even at 100/brl. There was some decrease in demand at these prices. Let see what AAA has to say after the weekend. EU has cut all ship bound Oil from Russia but still pipelines pumping. They turn the spigots to off on those and prices will spike yet again and on top of what we have now. Then, add China's ramp back up after the current lock downs and we may se yet more increases. Dano

From: 'Ike'
31-May-22
Now the guy is from Arkansas! Never ends....Lol

From: Dano
31-May-22
Your gas is getting cheaper out there in Wokeville, USA? New AAA USA record high today for fuels!!!

Just had a bud tap out on a MT B tag hunt late season. Guy has killed more elk than anyone i know over the years. Buck Foe JIden got him to tap, said "the hunt is not worth the stretch".

Dano

From: azelkhntr
31-May-22
Sorry Dano. The only way I'd go on an out of state hunt today is sharing the ride and expenses with 3 others.

From: Dano
01-Jun-22
Still waiting o the data from the Holiday weekend. New record high for distillates.

Still looking for a benzine station that is making gas with 75$/brl oil. No luck however.

Got a trip planned soon from Fort Smith to Alabama for the Howard Hill Classic. We had to double up. We taking four shooters and two camps basically in one rig so we dont get scalded at Buck Foe Jiden fuel stations. Yeah, we are hauling the motor cycle box trailer to fit all the gear but better than running two separate rigs. FBF Dano

From: Dano
01-Jun-22

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Very close !

No sure if theres room for $80/brl on this price chart today?

Dano

From: BowSniper
01-Jun-22

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Cost me a $100 to fill up this weekend. Actually $90 in gas, plus $10 in little Biden stickers from Amazon.

01-Jun-22
Short term. It’s da bomb. $201 and change to fill up a flippin’ diesel pickup truck today.

From: Dano
02-Jun-22
On the road today.

Thank’s Buck Fiden

Dano

From: TRnCO
02-Jun-22
gased up Tuesday for $4.16/gal. Yesterday the same station was at $4.39/gal.

Yee haw. Thanks Biden for doing all you can do to lower the costs for everyone.

04-Jun-22

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Good times…AAA statewide prices!

From: Dano
04-Jun-22
Lucky today at The Howard Hill Shoot i won enough cash in finals to pay my four day trip in full. Kept em in the 10-12 ring .

Sweet.

Dano

04-Jun-22
June 21st, we’ll see….

From: Old Bow
04-Jun-22
California Governor is laughing all the way to the Bank and gonna put mask mandate back on , it’s gonna get ugly this fall .

From: Grey Ghost
04-Jun-22
Some of you hand-wringers crack me up. We just returned from a month long vacation in Florida. 5k total miles in my Tundra, which gets 16 mpg on a good day. Total fuel bill was $600 more than I’ve paid in the previous 2 year’s trips The house we rent cost us an extra $1000. We offset those additional expenses by eating out less, and I was more frugal with my fishing expenses. Overall, the additional costs amounted to roughly the cost of a NR elk tag.

Some of you make it sound like you’ll have take out a home equity loan to afford to hunt this year. If that’s the case, maybe a priority adjustment is necessary.

Matt

From: Dano
04-Jun-22
Bubble Boy.

Guess you just did not see all the posts saying it was not feasible for them to spend or make the haul this year.

What outta state / country NR tags you hunting on?

Got us a Hollywood bubble hunter here. “I did all this travel and NR fishing, Im great and we got plenty funds. Whats the big deal”?

Tone deaf.

If i remember right he was the guy who used his PP’s in CO to pull area 10 Then, said the state should change PP rules.

ChickenHawkish.

Wheres that 80/brl oil at for July Travel season?

Dano

From: Old Bow
04-Jun-22
Grey Ghost when the printing press runs out of ink you’ll understand.

From: Old Bow
04-Jun-22
Grey Ghost when the printing press runs out of ink you’ll understand.

From: Dano
04-Jun-22
Eeeeeechoooo’s

Virtue Smoke Signals

Dano

04-Jun-22
Lol…Oh boy! I’m more interested in seeing if the OP’s premonition comes true! Hell, I drive a Diesel and will continue to…

From: Norseman
04-Jun-22
Pampous

From: Mint
05-Jun-22
"Some of you make it sound like you’ll have take out a home equity loan to afford to hunt this year. If that’s the case, maybe a priority adjustment is necessary."

A lot of people are making a priority adjustment on whether they can eat or fill up their car for work these days. I'm lucky, I make a good salary and can wait out my investments improving in the long term but people are really hurting right now. Heating oil price per gallon is over $6 a gallon and people are going to be in a panic when they have to fill their oil tanks this year. Under Trump I filled mine at $2.18 a gallon. Obviously the Democrats could care less about the working middle class.

From: KSflatlander
05-Jun-22
“Lucky today at The Howard Hill Shoot i won enough cash in finals to pay my four day trip in full. Kept em in the 10-12 ring . Sweet.

Dano“

Congrats Dan Ames from Fort Smith, Arkansas. We will look for your name when they post the results.

You didn’t think that one through did you, Shawn Magyar? LMAO

From: Babysaph
05-Jun-22
I bet the Dems get elected again. After all lots voted for him and economy has rebounded from the COVID stuff. And the jobless rate is great. Just read that yesterday

From: Beendare
05-Jun-22
GG, Gotta love your, Let them eat cake attitude. Have some compassion for the less fortunate.

Fuel may not affect us so much but it slaughters the poor working folk with long commutes. Its been shown that fuel is a disproportionate high percent of family budgets among the lower class.

Summers here, 87 octane hit $6.39 here today and diesel is $6.99…so much for lower prices in the summer.

.

From: bigeasygator
05-Jun-22
Under Trump I filled mine at $2.18 a gallon

In the middle of a pandemic when demand cratered. And because of this, oil companies were going bankrupt and laying off tens of thousands of workers across the country. This is the root cause of why gas is now priced the way it is.

From: Dano
05-Jun-22
If that were true BEG AramCo would be a worthlass entity. Try again.

Are you really in Oil business? Come on Man. Dano

From: bigeasygator
05-Jun-22
If what were true? Are you arguing the pandemic pandemic didn’t crater demand causing record low oil prices, plummeting gas prices, and increased oil company bankruptcies and layoffs? Google is your friend, Shawn. With statements like that and previous ones like “if there’s no oil produced demand will be zero,” it’s becoming clear you have no concept of what actually moves oil prices.

And LOL to Aramco being a worthless entity. You clearly do not understand the production, reserves, and - most importantly during low price periods - the war chest that Aramco is sitting on. They do have a higher break even price than many other countries and operators, but they’re not even close to a worthless entity. Try again.

From: Dano
05-Jun-22
Thats right and if zero dollar barrel had hurt US Oil it would have them as well. Just wrong, you have not been right on oil or distillates here ever. I took a huge risk with them. During the slow down. Glad i put them on the balance sheet almost as much as CVX. Those two with probably save my ass through the Lost Buck Fiden era alone!

Just eyewash charts for the Wokies and Twatwafflers.

Come check in when you can tell us when our $2 benzine is coming back.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
05-Jun-22
Who said it didn’t hurt them? It hurt the whole industry. Again, that’s why companies went bankrupt, layoffs skyrocketed, spending plummeted, and production declined. Aramco’s profit slumped 50% in 2020. They have pretty cheap operating costs and a massive war chest (it was ~$500 bln) - they can ride out low prices like most large oil companies can. Doesn’t mean they - along with the rest of the industry - didn’t feel the pinch of 2020. It’s really hilarious that somehow you’re arguing they didn’t get hurt during the pandemic, but also highlight the the fact that their recovery since the pandemic lows are paying dividends for you.

From: Aspen Ghost
05-Jun-22
BEG, you are only recognizing part of the story. The Pandemic is over and there is not sufficient refinery capacity and oil production to support a normal economy. In fact, the limited energy supplies/high prices are actually restricting recovery of the economy. The need for energy after the pandemic is and was obvious. Under normal circumstances oil companies would be investing to increase production.

But they are not. And it is not because they are worried about another pandemic. And it is not because they are worried about a decrease in demand due to an economic slowdown (the supply limits are actually a key cause of the slowdown, not vice versa).

The reason is because of the "Green New Deal" agenda and what Biden in his own words excitedly calls the "Incredible Journey". By doing so Biden admits that high gas prices are his goal. Because that is the only way that so called green energy can compete.

And oil companies can see this agenda clearly. So there is no way they will invest in additional production when they know that the government is working against them to prevent additional demand. Would you? They can see the regulations requiring electric cars in the very near future. They can see the regulations requiring shut down of electric power plants that are fueled by oil/gas. It is painfully obvious to almost everyone it seems.

From: bigeasygator
05-Jun-22
The reason is because of the "Green New Deal" agenda and what Biden in his own words excitedly calls the "Incredible Journey". By doing so Biden admits that high gas prices are his goal. Because that is the only way that so called green energy can compete.

And oil companies can see this agenda clearly. So there is no way they will invest in additional production when they know that the government is working against them to prevent additional demand. Would you? They can see the regulations requiring electric cars in the very near future. They can see the regulations requiring shut down of electric power plants that are fueled by oil/gas. It is painfully obvious to almost everyone it seems.

I’m literally in on these conversations, AG. I understand exactly the motivating forces behind decisions companies are making.

The Green New Deal has no chance of passing anytime soon. And regardless of Biden’s thoughts around this “incredible journey,” the market is going to be the one that ultimately paces things. Despite what you all think about Biden being in charge and Democrats controlling the legislature, thanks to the likes of moderates their agenda will never get through. And if anything does, we’re one election cycle from reversing course. If anything, the name of the game has been “gridlock” and that’s just fine. Furthermore, given what we’re seeing play out in Europe right now, we all feel there’s far more hesitancy to accelerate the transition at the expense of energy security. This journey will take decades, and that’s how the industry is approaching things in this country.

If anything, this is motivating my company to accelerate activity as we (1) want to monetize our assets sooner rather than later and (2) we need the cash from oil and gas to fund the transition. However, given the recent crashes, we’re still moderating this growth.

Looking at large to the broader USA, most of the production increase we saw came from smaller shale players operating on private land. They don’t give a rats a$$ about being players in the energy transition. The reason rig counts are still suppressed and activity hasn’t picked up commensurate with prices has everything to do with the fact that these players were burned twice recently and don’t want to be burned again. They’re sending cash back to shareholders and investors instead of putting it back in the business. No one expects prices to stay high like this for a longer term, so there’s huge hesitancy to ramp up to take advantage of it - things are good now and operators want to remain resilient in the face of the inevitable fall in price.

05-Jun-22
Going to be great…Grid can’t even handle the average load here, I can’t wait! Lol

From: shade mt
06-Jun-22
You folks can argue all you want, point fingers, make excuses.

But fact is fact, and the reality is, things are going downhill fast. The answer?.......wisdom.

This world is full of knowledge, but wisdom is scarce........knowledge without wisdom, can easily lead us down the wrong paths......look around folks......we aren't in Mayberry anymore.

From: Dano
06-Jun-22
Shade is correct.

Anyone can see that when you come into Office the first week and Exec Order things that were helping the nation in regard to energy away out of Idealogic spite you have failed your oath.

Obiden has listened to people like Kerry and the leftover Obama Admin and its been to our detriment.

In other News new Gas record high but were pumping millions of gallons of Oil. Sure, Aramco just raised their prices on Oil. They goin gto pump a few barrels more but with demand increasing it wont change a thing. With price hike you'll price go up here at home. See 120.00 for WTI I would expect. Right wheere Joe's green Gang want it.

If you think the high price of fuel will not curb peoples actions and habits your fooling yourself. Dano

From: KSflatlander
06-Jun-22
Dan Ames- post those Howard Hill Shoot results. We want to see your name listed since you say you placed.

From: Dano
06-Jun-22
Back to the Buck Fiden mess. Ol Buck be already gone if we did not have a Flatbacker in the VP seat. She could not lead Campfire Girls in Kumbaya with out having to stop for a time out for CRT, Racism and Reparations rant.

I did not place. I shot for top shot on a side bet. Guy missed I did not. A selfbow did win Topshot out of all the finalists however. Now Wheels, no sights at the H Hill. Dano

From: KSflatlander
06-Jun-22
“Lucky today at The Howard Hill Shoot i won enough cash in finals to pay my four day trip in full. Kept em in the 10-12 ring .“

Wait a minute Mr. Ames. You said you were in the finals?

From: Dano
06-Jun-22
Yep Topshot. They will post the winner of topshot. The girl who shot was good and the Selfbow guy who won blew the crowd away! Think he was from Tennessee somewhere. You have i can see have never been to any of the 18 Howard Hill Classics I take it. Do you even have a bow? Dano

From: Orion
06-Jun-22
BEG I was paying below 2.20 a gallon before the pandemic hit so gas was low before the pandemic. Also oil bottomed out before the pandemic so many companies were hurting before COVID

From: Grey Ghost
06-Jun-22
Shawn/Dano, you’re not fooling anyone with your lies. It’s just a matter of time before you get deleted…again.

Matt

From: Grey Ghost
06-Jun-22
Once again, Orion makes sh!t up to suit his narrative. The price of crude oil bottomed out, actually went negative, on April 20, 2020 at the peak of the pandemic.

Matt

From: bigeasygator
06-Jun-22

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BEG I was paying below 2.20 a gallon before the pandemic hit so gas was low before the pandemic. Also oil bottomed out before the pandemic so many companies were hurting before COVID

You're right that things weren't great pre-pandemic for oil companies. But the height of the pandemic was most certainly the low point for oil and gas prices during the last decade.

From: bigeasygator
06-Jun-22

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BEG I was paying below 2.20 a gallon before the pandemic hit so gas was low before the pandemic. Also oil bottomed out before the pandemic so many companies were hurting before COVID

And as crude oil is the biggest determining factor in gas price movement, gas prices followed a similar trend. National average was about $2.60-2.70/gal prior to the pandemic.

From: Dano
06-Jun-22
Yep, about the time i took every bit of immediate cash i had on hand and bought Into Big US Oil.

GG has has not had a legitimate comment to add here on this thread.

Still waiting on $80/brl oil.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
06-Jun-22
Still waiting on $80/brl oil.

First future contract I see trading below $90/bbl is December 2023. So the market's current view is you've got awhile to go, Shawn.

From: Dano
06-Jun-22
Im seeing estimates there and up to and over 200/brl.

Was not hard to see distillates were going way up.

Which makes Everything go eY up.

I love those Flyin J, Loves and Pilots. Highest prices on the road in four states this weekend. Criminal. Dano

From: Dano
06-Jun-22

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FBF
Dano

From: Dano
06-Jun-22

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CVX says.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
06-Jun-22
Im seeing estimates there and up to and over 200/brl.

There are currently no contracts trading anywhere close to $200/bbl. People may be estimating that, but that's not where the market has futures priced.

From: bigeasygator
06-Jun-22
Agree with everything he says. Especially...

"Wirth reiterated the industry view that oil and gas producers take a long view of the market fundamentals of supply and demand when settling on capital expenditures. And according to Wirth, it takes years for decisions made today to result in oil.

The unique circumstances of the past two pandemic years have only sought to exacerbate the lag between demand and supply as industry workers fled the industry and wells and refineries were taken offline—some never to return"

In short...the pain we're feeling now is the result of actions taken years ago and there isn't much of anything that can or will be done in the short term (call it less than a year) to materially impact current supply.

From: Orion
06-Jun-22
Gut shooter I mean grey ghost WTI hit a low in 2019 that hurt most companies and it never rebounded fully so the effect was already felt before the pandemic

From: Dano
06-Jun-22
He a Liver shooter i will remind you. That's with a Vertical Wheel String Rifle.

We were shooting 75m in 1975 with wood Lam limbed , plastic wheel bows with bicycle cables. Rasy put 10 outta 12 arrows in a 10” paper plate back then. What’s a bulls killzone ? Gotta be at least 16x16” broad side. Do that with a primitive bow to 45-50yds with BHs.

To add, at that time 1975 fuel about doubled if not more and the US freaked out. We about to see the same again. Dano

From: Mint
06-Jun-22
Does anybody really think Biden's and the Dems anti oil/natural gas/fracking agenda is not causing the price to increase? Is it all of the increase of course not but it is a major component. Same as the frosty relationship with the Saudis keeps them from increasing supply while in the past they would open up the spigot.

From: Dano
06-Jun-22
Spot on.

Saudi just Obliged Buck Fiden. Going to pump 550k/fay more but the jacked price on him.

Lunchbox will think he got a good deal while we lose are @sses. Brain dead. By Wed he ready to fly back up to Delaware for his weekly blood cleansing treatments.

From: Dano
06-Jun-22
Spot on.

Saudi just Obliged Buck Fiden. Going to pump 550k/fay more but the jacked price on him.

Lunchbox will think he got a good deal while we lose are @sses. Brain dead. By Wed he ready to fly back up to Delaware for his weekly blood cleansing treatments.

06-Jun-22

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Couple weeks early, but close enough for Government work...NorCal

From: KSflatlander
06-Jun-22
“Lucky today at The Howard Hill Shoot i won enough cash in finals to pay my four day trip in full. Kept em in the 10-12 ring .“

Wait a minute Mr. Ames. You said you were in the finals?

From: Dano
06-Jun-22

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Today in CA. Multiple stations at almost $10 gal.

Yer smart guys BEG and GG says there’s $80/brl oil for July.

Dano

From: Norseman
06-Jun-22
Time to edit the Thread title.

From: Dano
06-Jun-22
They will have to change all signage on west coast when it goes over $10/gal Dano

From: bigeasygator
06-Jun-22
Yer smart guys BEG and GG says there’s $80/brl oil for July

No I didn't. I never once said that. Making things up again I see.

Hilarious though as you mentioned you were planning for $160/bbl by now.

From: Grey Ghost
06-Jun-22
BEG, the thing is, unlike Shawn’s posts, everything we’ve posted is still documented, so his lies about us are easily exposed. Neither of us ever predicted $80/barrel oil by July.

Watching him trying to save face for his $190/barrel predictions is hilarious.

Matt

From: Dano
07-Jun-22
National Avg 5.91 this morning . . . . . . New record 28th of 29 days of records under Lunch Box Joe.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
07-Jun-22

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You’re only off by a dollar, Shawn.

From: KSflatlander
07-Jun-22
Shawn’s BDS is showing again. Remember when Shawn/Dano said Trump would be re-elected based of the number of Trump yard signs he seen. LMAO…he was wrong but that was a good one. Remember the AZ recount/audit and cyber ninjas prediction? Resulting in more votes for Biden. That was a Shawn Maygar/Dano classic.

Post those Howard Hill Classic results Mr. Ames. We want to see your name in the marquee.

From: Dano
07-Jun-22
Typo. I was on AAA this morning.

Cuz socialists care about spending and decimal points for you grand children so much.

Dano

From: Dano
07-Jun-22
Now we will talk about what really matters with fuel prices. The BEG wizard of Oil should have told you all from the git go that price of Distillates and price of a Barrel of oil has but just a little to do with what you will pay for your #2 heat oil, keroseen, aviation fuel, JP-4 & 5, diesel. etc.

Soon you will see prices at pumps they would reflect oil prices under a normal Administration conditions of $160/barrel. Oil will not hit that this summer (unless Joe wants that) but you will pay the equivalent to this out your pocket.

If we have some storms in gulf? Well, all bets are off and you could feel the pump price equivalent pricing of 200/brl. The big banks and wall street have said this and are planning with this ramped up gap in Oil prices vs Distillates prices in mind.

Buck Fiden is now going to be fighting off the same rage folks had in mid 1970's every day in every way. Every time he steps to a mike of his minions do it will High Cost of Energy your Policy has created.

The Mules thought they helping you to Woktopia.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
07-Jun-22

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Now we will talk about what really matters with fuel prices. The BEG wizard of Oil should have told you all from the git go that price of Distillates and price of a Barrel of oil has but just a little to do with what you will pay for your #2 heat oil, keroseen, aviation fuel, JP-4 & 5, diesel. etc.

I would never say that because that's not true. Currently the price of crude oil is accounting for roughly 2/3 the cost of what you are paying at the pump for gasoline and over half of what you pay for diesel (note the graphic above is out of date from today but in the ballpark).

"The primary factors impacting gasoline prices are global crude oil cost (61%), refining costs (14%), distribution and marketing costs (11%) and federal & state taxes (14%), which are generally reflected in the wholesale costs that gasoline retailers pay to distributors.

The cost of crude oil is the largest factor in the retail price of gasoline. Because of this, changes in the retail price of gasoline typically track changes in the global crude oil price. Crude oil prices are impacted by geopolitics, global market fundamentals, including supply and demand, inventories, seasonality, financial market considerations and expectations."

From: Bowfreak
07-Jun-22
BEG,

I haven't read the whole thread so if this has already been answered I apologize.

Crude prices were about 50% higher in 2008, but we didn't see $5/ gallon gas.

Why are we seeing that now since the biggest factor for gas prices is the price of crude?

From: WYOelker
07-Jun-22
Haha. The stupid is strong with some on this thread. The mental gymnastics that some go through to excuse our idiot president, is truly impressive.

No matter what this is on Joe and his administration. The same administration that has not correct course and whose every move is making the situation worse.

But hey there are still a couple here who would pony up and be the little spoon while touching old Joes leg hair.

From: WYOelker
07-Jun-22
Haha. The stupid is strong with some on this thread. The mental gymnastics that some go through to excuse our idiot president, is truly impressive.

No matter what this is on Joe and his administration. The same administration that has not correct course and whose every move is making the situation worse.

But hey there are still a couple here who would pony up and be the little spoon while touching old Joes leg hair.

From: Dano
07-Jun-22
Exactly BowFreakyz.

We a normal Administration. Read the Goldman Sachs write on what they conclude what Buck Fiden has done.

Warning: the end state is rather bleek for us regular folks!

Oil distillates should not be this costly. Use the production formula for diesel and its 1/3 over desired profit margins.

This is all O’biden Kerry crap.

Dano

From: Grey Ghost
07-Jun-22
“ Crude prices were about 50% higher in 2008, but we didn't see $5/ gallon gas.”

The average crude oil price in 2008 was around $100/barrel.

Matt

From: Dano
07-Jun-22
Yes young Wy elker it is.

Really?. Always can count on a dose of the blindingly obvious from the Great Liver Shooter. Dano

From: Grey Ghost
07-Jun-22
Apparently it was obvious to Bowfreak per his question, Shawn.

Matt

From: Bowfreak
07-Jun-22

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Matt,

Based on this chart taken from the link below....from March of 2008 to September of 2008, oil was above $100 per bbl. In July it was the highest in history at $147.47per bbl. Oil was roughly 50% more expensive at that time but currently gas is 20% higher than the period of time with the highest oil prices in history. $4.107 then $4.919 now. Why wasn't gasoline $7.00 or $7.50 in July of 2008?

There is more to it than the price of oil. So what is it?????

From: bigeasygator
07-Jun-22
Crude prices were about 50% higher in 2008, but we didn't see $5/ gallon gas.

Crude peaked at about $140/bbl in June of 2008 (for context, it was down to $40/bbl by the end of the year). During that same time frame, gas prices peaked at about $4.12/gal. Now we're at $120/bbl and gas is averaging about $4.90/gal.

So yes, there's about a 15-20% uplift vs. the price of crude when looking back on the price of gas in 2008. It's mostly coming from increases to the refining and distribution costs associated with gasoline.

So the relative contributions of these factors has increased over time. But crude oil is still the dominating factor when it comes to price movements. As the link I posted above from the API (American Petroleum Institute) discusses, since 2020, 90% of gasoline price movement can be linked to changes to crude oil.

From: Grey Ghost
07-Jun-22
Crude hit $128/barrel in July of 2008. That translated to a national average of $4.11/gal for gas. When adjusted for inflation , that was over $5.00/gal in July of 2008.

So, what’s your question?

Matt

From: Grey Ghost
07-Jun-22

Grey Ghost's Link
In case your search button is broken.

Matt

From: Dano
07-Jun-22
Thats benzine look at Diesel for same timeframe excuse makers.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
07-Jun-22
No one is making excuses, just pointing out facts. Here's another fact.

"The national benzene content of gasoline today is about 1.0 vol%"

No one affiliated with petroleum products in any meaningful way calls gasoline "benzene." It's more proof that you don't really know what you're talking about at all.

Regarding diesel, crude oil is still by far the dominant factor with respect to diesel price movements. Other supply (reduced diesel refining capacity, increased input costs, ban on Russian diesel) and demand (increased demand for diesel and distillates) factors are pushing prices even higher.

From: Grey Ghost
07-Jun-22
No excuses, just facts, Shawn.

And since I know you lack comprehension skills, I’ll make it simple for you. Using todays dollars, we paid more for a gallon of gas in the summer of 2008 than we are now, and the world didn’t come to an end.

BTW, name one other consumable good that has remained roughly the same price for decades. Why is it assumed that fuel prices should be immune to inflation, when nothing else is?

Matt

From: Rocky D
07-Jun-22
“ And since I know you lack comprehension skills, I’ll make it simple for you. Using todays dollars, we paid more for a gallon of gas in the summer of 2008 than we are now, and the world didn’t come to an end.”

Why have a conversation with multiple personalities…

Do you really want to use today’s cost versus 2008. You are smarter than that!

Currently gas prices suck, period!

“ Why is it assumed that fuel prices should be immune to inflation, when nothing else is?”

I guess gas prices increasing 50% to 70% is inflation. If you believe that I’ve got some swamp land to sell you.

From: Grey Ghost
07-Jun-22
Rocky, please try to keep up with the thread, if you’re gonna call me out. Bowfreak asked about 2008 prices versus today’s. I just supplied the facts relating to his question.

I don’t like $5/gal gas any more than you do. But, I also realize we’ve been here before, and we survived. As we will this time.

Matt

From: Bowfreak
07-Jun-22
Matt,

We haven't been here before. By BEG's calculations we are seeing prices relative to the price of oil that are 15-20% more than 2008.

Also....crude went over $140/ bbl in July of 2008.

From: Dano
07-Jun-22
Twatwaffle bubble boy cares not for any of you hunters. He only cares about backyard liver shooting!

You gonna take that from a bubble boy that never been outta the land of the round door knob Rock?

Virtue signaling fence post straddler. The kind who freezes in the headlights of ground truths.

Dano

From: Rocky D
07-Jun-22
“ And since I know you lack comprehension skills, I’ll make it simple for you. Using todays dollars, we paid more for a gallon of gas in the summer of 2008 than we are now, and the world didn’t come to an end.”

Why have a conversation with multiple personalities…

Do you really want to use today’s cost versus 2008. You are smarter than that!

Currently gas prices suck, period!

“ Why is it assumed that fuel prices should be immune to inflation, when nothing else is?”

I guess gas prices increasing 50% to 70% is inflation. If you believe that I’ve got some swamp land to sell you.

From: Dano
07-Jun-22
Love this. You got three Biden voters left here on BS and they still think they voted for a winner.

The rest deny they voted for him. Others say they are independent party members.

Sweet.

Dano

From: RK
07-Jun-22
Dano

Nobody here thinks they made the right decision. They all are just not honest enough to admit it

Pure Liberal liars

From: Dano
07-Jun-22
:)

Dano

From: Dano
08-Jun-22
Pre trading Oil price over $120this morning. If it opens there its a ………New Record

Our BS Biden supporters are the guys who told us oil would flatten out at 80-90/brl this summer.

They better have those farm tanks full because when China ramps back up these fuel prices are going up.

Look well Bowsiters. Look at what these mules and Obiden’s did to us.

Dano

08-Jun-22
I about fell off my chair this am.... I was watching the morning talk shows, and bouncing around. Here I watch MSNBC and they are crying about why we dont have Nuclear Power Plants,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Maybe because all you Extremists, screamed about it, 10 years ago,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, The Progressives have no answers, they never had any to begin with................................ Moderate / Sensible Democrats are gone,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, There best is Joe Manchin, and they hate him

From: bigeasygator
08-Jun-22
Our BS Biden supporters are the guys who told us oil would flatten out at 80-90/brl this summer.

Let’s get some facts straight, Shawn.

Biden is terrible. His energy policies are terrible. I didn’t vote for him.

No one on this thread said anything about oil going to $80-90/bbl this summer. You’re making that up.

It is okay to think Biden sucks and also recognize that he doesn’t have much of anything to do with current gas prices, and there’s not much of anything he can do to “fix” things. In fact, doing so makes your assessment that Biden sucks (again, he does) more credible.

Speaking on that last point, I read the Goldman note last night. It basically is saying everything I’ve said.

1. Not enough supply in the market to lower prices. Oil companies continue to show capital discipline. Companies that missed their CAPEX targets sold off in the last earnings season.

2. Demand is still outstripping supply and likely will continue to do so until oil hits $140/bbl.

3. This $140/bbl will feel equivalent to $160/bbl as it pertains to gas prices thanks to refinery constraints. The capacity that was lost was lost during the height of the pandemic. This is the 15-20% premium vs. 2008 we talked about yesterday.

From: Dano
08-Jun-22

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Even the French did not abandon their Nuke Power. The woke suk but these idiots let them run their party. Now its time to let the cards fall where they may.

They San Fran voters just ran out the DA there last nite. This fall could be a less deadly version of the French Revolution for Libs. I dont see Nancy being elected as House Minority Leader. It has to be another elite Lib thats all thats left.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
08-Jun-22
Read the Goldman Sachs write on what they conclude what Buck Fiden has done

Yeah. You aint been right on squat Big Erroneous Goober.

Did you even read the Goldman note or did you stop at a headline? As I highlighted, the Goldman note tells you exactly what they think is behind current prices and where they're going. And it literally makes the points I've made on this thread - capital discipline is the biggest barrier to new supply (particularly in the USA), demand is still strong at these prices, and prices need to go higher before we see balance in the market. Guess who they don't point figures at in the GS note regarding the current market dynamics and pricing? (hint: it's Biden).

So to be clear - you hold up the Goldman note which says everything I've said and then say I haven't been right about squat. LOL Can't have it both ways, Shawn.

From: bigeasygator
08-Jun-22
I'll give you credit, Shawn. Even though you rarely bring anything of any intellectual merit to the conversation, you're always good for a laugh...and we can always use a good laugh. "Read the Goldman note, it's great!" A day later, "The Goldman note's crap!" No different than your flip-flopping on everything else (is demand for oil strong or weak today?). And I still laugh at the comment "There will be no demand when supply is zero." LOL...thanks for always lightening up the mood.

And sorry, I don't own a crossbow.

From: bigeasygator
08-Jun-22
The three of you have never been anywhere to even begin to understand the world or its geopolitics much less supply/demand economics.

You know nothing about me, and it shows. But it does say something about the arrogance of a person who would tell someone who has the degreed background and spent their entire 20+ year career working globally on a specific industry that they know nothing about it. But I'm sure you learned much more about the industry I work in as an Army Ranger.

From: Dano
08-Jun-22
I would say that sentiment is mostly true and reciprocal.

I know enough ;)

Dano

From: Dano
08-Jun-22
BEG you have a huge social media footprint. I can probably tell you where you bought that ring and what mine it came out of.

You must got me mixed up with someone else friend.

I notice you only talk about Oil. Whats Chicago elite Liberal doing mining for gas and oil?

Dano

From: bigeasygator
08-Jun-22
BEG you have a huge social media footprint. I can probably tell you where you bought that ring and what mine it came out of. You must got me mixed up with someone else friend.

I notice you only talk about Oil. Whats Chicago elite Liberal doing mining for gas and oil?

That's right I have a huge social media footprint. For anyone that wants to follow me, it's Jason Sheridan in New Orleans on Facebook, and jason.a.sheridan on Instagram (my last account, bigeasygator, was hacked and Instagram won't give it back, so don't follow that one). I don't hide who I am, Shawn.

Regarding "Chicago elite Liberal," that's just you not doing your homework. I'm not from Chicago. I only got my MBA from the University of Chicago - Booth School of Business. You know, birthplace of the Chicago School of economics. Home of Milton Friedman, George Stigler, Eugene Fama, Ronald Coase, Gary Becker, etc etc. I wanted an MBA from a top ranked program, was attracted to the fact that it is a quant heavy program, and aligned ideologically with the Chicago school (free markets, economic liberalism, efficient markets, etc).

I got my MBA while working through their Executive program, so I've spent my whole career in oil and gas - which is why I chime in particularly on the oil threads.

From: azelkhntr
09-Jun-22
June 9, 2022. Mark the date. For the first time avg. cost for a gallon of gas is now $5 nationwide. fjb!

From: SteveB
09-Jun-22
Regarding Goldman Sachs....I am a client and get ALL of their communications, and while they try, they don't have a track record of being right on very much lately. Truth is, no one knows what the cause and effect of this all is and we won't until we see it. Only way gas prices retract is with an uptick in production. Period. That won't happen util there is conservative house and senate along with a conservative president.

From: bigeasygator
09-Jun-22
That won't happen util there is conservative house and senate along with a conservative president

It's not Washington, it's Wall Street. Until shareholders and investors ask for more production and not dividends/buybacks companies things will remain tight. But you're right...no one knows where it's headed.

From: SteveB
09-Jun-22
BEG - to your old post that said production increased under Biden...... In the months leading up to the Covid-19 pandemic, U.S. oil production hit an all-time high of just below 13 million barrels per day (BPD). As the pandemic unfolded, demand collapsed, and production followed. By May 2020, oil production had dropped by more than 3 million BPD to 9.7 million BPD following demand.

The problem now is that demand is back and production is not. Simple math. Production is increased compared to Trump yes, considering the 2020 pandemic timeline, but not relative to normal (non-pandemic) economy. In fact as the above statement says, it was near an all time record under Trump prior to the pandemic.

From: bigeasygator
09-Jun-22
That's all 100% correct, Steve. We're at about 12 mln bopd of US production right now, about 10% off of the record highs. Again, you can't force companies to spend money on growth if they don't want to.

From: Beendare
09-Jun-22
Biden isn’t going to solve squat…thats a fact.

There is solutions on the horizon if we had a common sense administration;

1) Publicly put the ‘Negative on fossil fuels’ on hold. Announce a sea change extension in the Green initiative time line and instead putting a priority on energy security.

2) immediately give the green light on fast tracking a couple new oil refineries and pipelines…in fact the US gov can partner with oil companies to get this done just like Trump did on Covid vaccine development. Those vaccines came to market in record time due to his presidential order in Sept 2019. ( something many of the Trump haters don’t know)

3) mandate the EPA to get this done instead of sitting on it like they have been doing. Heck, Manchin had t9 drag theEPA into a Congressional inquiry a few months ago to call them out for their stonewalling.

4) Fire that turd John Kerry…..the oil he uses In his plane tooling around wringing his hands like Chicken little is enough to power my companies fuel req for a decade.

Heck, OBidens approval rating would go up 20%.

From: bigeasygator
09-Jun-22
We lost about 5% of this refining capacity in this country in the time period following the pandemic. These are refineries that were already under operation that required relatively little capital. They shuttered because they weren’t making money, and they haven’t come back to the same level because they are still viewed as too financially risky. There is not some backlog of refineries waiting on federal approval. Comparing this situation to the COVID emergency is apples and oranges. The last thing this situation needs is government subsidization.

From: Dano
10-Jun-22

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Still looking for that 80-90/brl summer 2022 oil.

Dano

From: Rocky D
10-Jun-22
“ It's not Washington, it's Wall Street. Until shareholders and investors ask for more production and not dividends/buybacks companies things will remain tight.”

I see Washington and Wall Street as the hand and the glove!

If Washington changes their then Wall Street will follow suit. This maybe over simplification but how can investors have confidence in the oil industry with a Washington directed death sentence on its future.

From: bigeasygator
10-Jun-22
Still looking for that 80-90/brl summer 2022 oil.

Nobody on this thread or anywhere else has predicted that. You’re gonna be waiting for a long time for $80/bbl.

From: bigeasygator
10-Jun-22
Post the quote. Unlike you, everything we have said is right here on the board. Put up or shut up.

From: Mint
10-Jun-22
Biden needs to fire Treasury Secretary Yellen. She hasn't been right yet. the problem is the Democrat leadership always wanted high gas prices but didn't want to be blamed politically for it. At this point they haven't a clue on what to do. The really sad part is that all the money spent on the American "rescue" plan was just a democrat wish list and caused inflation to skyrocket. When will moderate democrats take their party back from the progressives?

From: bigeasygator
10-Jun-22
Rather than own up to how wrong you’ve been, you have to lie about what people have said in an attempt to save face. So yeah, bring the goods.

Of course you won’t, because they don’t exist and nowhere did GG or anyone else predict $80/bbl oil this summer. No surprise there. All hat, no cattle.

From: RK
10-Jun-22
Well I have absolutely no skin in this thread whatsoever.

But do agree with one thing BEG has said, that is NOBODY knows what will happen

And I have no idea of who said it or exactly what thread it was said on but Dano is right. In reference to futures for the summer someone forecasted $80-90 oil prices

I have no interest nor the time or energy to page through multiple posts trying to ferret out what someone said to prove some nonsensical point

Having said that, it’s time to gear up for a hot fishing weekend

Enjoy the weekend boys and be safe !!

From: TGbow
11-Jun-22
Come on now fellas, Joe said he wanted to make America like California...he is doing are stand up job!

We all know his Marxist agenda with prosper if they could only get rid of what's left of our Constitution.

11-Jun-22
At over 8% inflation with the inability to raise rates high enough to bring it back into check, I’m betting a long term recessions is the only outcome that looks realistic.

11-Jun-22
$6.85 for Diesel, but most of the others around are already over $7 with $7.29 the highest I’ve seen…Premium is close! I’m still waiting for the traffic to die off, but no luck…Lol

From: TGbow
11-Jun-22
It's Trump's fault you know

From: azelkhntr
11-Jun-22
$6 a gal. by Independence Day. Yesterday slow pedo joe called inflation the Putin tax. I guess Vlad the Bold is the one who actually controls the US economy.

11-Jun-22
Imagine if the left had been able to implement all there plans instead of just a bunch of them.

From: TGbow
11-Jun-22
Don, the sad thing is some folks would be paying 80% of their income in taxes and living in cookie cutter government housing and still be proclaiming how their Marxist leaders are making this country so prosperous. The old square wheel will work if it's designed right mentality

From: Old Bow
11-Jun-22
Diesel $7.05 a gallon at Pilot in Dunnigan California.

From: bigeasygator
11-Jun-22
Told everyone that was coming

Seeing as gas has been selling for over $7 at certain stations in California for over a year, you really went out on a limb there Shawn.

From: Old Bow
11-Jun-22
Diesel $7.05 a gallon at Pilot in Dunnigan California.

11-Jun-22

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From: Tilzbow
11-Jun-22
Diesel and has increased 80 cents per gallon here in Reno the past week and are now $6.09 at most stations with premium at $6.51. At this rate is $10 a gallon at of the question?!?!?

The 6 mile per gallon diesel pusher motorhome and 400 HP Mercury Verado powered fishing boat I bought back when diesel and premium were about $2.50 per gallon are looking like pretty silly toys at this point…..

Thanks Joe!

From: Dano
12-Jun-22

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^^^^^

Dano

From: Blood
12-Jun-22
Biden is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. Green New Deal…….make gas, oil and diesel so expensive that people need to buy electric cars, wind farms etc. Thankfully my job pays for all my gas, but I feel really bad for high school and college kids that are working minimum wage jobs and aren’t even making enough to fill their tanks every week. :(

From: Dano
12-Jun-22
EV's "The Great Rip Off". Lets see whose making them?

That's why Job rate is declining folks are quitting, taking summer off and waiting their weeks to get unemployment. Not paying just to drive to work. Folks will tighten up, keep that bill fold and purse shut. Which is going to make this Oil Crisis worse, Shrink-flation worse, and Inflation worse and personal debt Soar.

Joe going to turn more food into ethanol and make food shortages worse. Yep. nest stop is coming On The Last Train from Woke Hill. Will pull into Riot City in late summer.

Dano

From: BC
12-Jun-22
Biden now begging the Saudi’s to ramp up production. He could have done that here at home, created jobs, kept gas prices reasonable. Doesn’t make sense.

From: RonP
12-Jun-22
the vast majority of people pay for a gas with a credit card and do not pay the balance in full in each month. the cost per gallon becomes much higher when interest on the borrowed amount is added.

a strategy to consider is to rack up thousands of dollars in loans for fuel, similar to student loans, and hope that uncle joe steps in and pays off the balance. why should we have to pay it back? this is predatory by the credit card companies and big oil, not to mention big baby formula.

From: Dano
12-Jun-22
What the strategy seems to be by all accounts. They are already using the CC for everything anyway. Personal Debt is soaring under Buck Fiden. If GVT is going to pay Oil Debt? Hell, just let em take over all Big US Oil bet that will make everything perfect, right? Get price down, no competition, bring in all new GVT employees, fire the evil Big Oil employees, cap wells, Go Green NOW. Yeah, that'll work.

All from the guy with 5 Nam Draft deferments and a medical when he graduated so they could not take him as an Officer. Asthma Baby. Hey, I know a Dem congressman who got 9 deferments and was Gov and a Congressman forever. Real stand up Lib. Dano

12-Jun-22
Ron right on with the formula. My step sister can’t find any anywhere and y brothers expecting in a few months. Glad I’m not in their boat right now and my formula days are over

From: bigeasygator
12-Jun-22
Biden now begging the Saudi’s to ramp up production. He could have done that here at home, created jobs, kept gas prices reasonable. Doesn’t make sense.

I can promise the administration is meeting with and begging domestic producers to increase supply.

From: bigeasygator
12-Jun-22
this is predatory by the credit card companies and big oil

More of the “capitalism and free markets are bad” crowd I see. Hey Ron, why didn’t oil companies raise prices when they were low? It’s because they have no say what they were then, and no say what they are now.

12-Jun-22

From: Dano
12-Jun-22
Why would uS oil spend big $ now?

You got Buck Fiden wanting to tax them for buying stock back.

Why would big us oil build more refinement capability? With all these new EV’s when they dont know how it will effect demand in near future.

No this demand out pacing supply is what we will continue to see.

Looking buying a bunch of Shell soon. Like that dividend and price.

Dano

12-Jun-22
Ron right on with the formula. My step sister can’t find any anywhere and y brothers expecting in a few months. Glad I’m not in their boat right now and my formula days are over

12-Jun-22
Ron right on with the formula. My step sister can’t find any anywhere and y brothers expecting in a few months. Glad I’m not in their boat right now and my formula days are over

12-Jun-22
If you were told you only have 10-20 years for a big sector of the industry you are invested in to pay off, you maximize returns and minimize long-term infrastructure investment. You start directing future investment in to what the industry will look like. We are a very long way from not using oil and gas. It gets used for a lot more than gasoline and diesel. But, when that huge sector of demand is being regulated away, its not rocket science to see why increasing supply and long-term supply infrastructure is on the back burner. Hard to start expensive new projects when the stroke of a pen causes billions of dollars in loss.

Oil companies are now "energy" companies. They want to be positioned to be suppliers of whatever type of energy the market and regulations dictate.

From: RonP
12-Jun-22
Fish on!

Beasy, relax. I know how sh*t works. It was tongue in cheek.

From: Dano
12-Jun-22
Dead on Glunt.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
12-Jun-22
If you were told you only have 10-20 years for a big sector of the industry you are invested in to pay off, you maximize returns and minimize long-term infrastructure investment

The thing is, most of the infrastructure relevant to this issue is already in place. Additionally, given the timeline on many major projects, those are already being spent on and companies aren’t going to stop now. The big delta from now to what was happening pre-pandemic is really around rig counts and bringing new short cycle oil to market. There are labor and supply chain issues to deal with, but it comes down to choosing cash payouts at the expense of growth. The growth opportunities are there - I’ll make a prediction that we will set production records by the end of 2023. But it likely won’t be enough to rebalance markets for quite some time given the strong demand.

But, when that huge sector of demand is being regulated away, its not rocket science to see why increasing supply and long-term supply infrastructure is on the back burner.

Again, demand is essentially at pre-pandemic levels. Nothing noteworthy has been done or is being done to alter the demand equation right now.

Oil companies are now "energy" companies. They want to be positioned to be suppliers of whatever type of energy the market and regulations dictate.

This may be true of the likes of Exxon, Chevron, Shell, BP, etc. But it is not true of the vast majority of producers and the vast majority of production in this country. It comes from companies who are oil companies and will never be anything but oil companies. This includes companies like Occidental and Pioneer and even smaller companies. These are the ones truly driving the swing production in the shale plays, and this is where investment and activity has really cooled off from where we were in early-2020.

From: Dano
12-Jun-22

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To summerize. They will keep demand above supply and make good $ doing just that same as Opec.

All the while refinement will lag keep prices up.

For Buck Fiden to say Exxon not paying taxes is a joke. He wants the bigs to pay more taxes when they buy back their own stocks? Why dont he just mandate Big and Small oil to pay 50% tax more on well heads and really phuk us over. Was tried once and how did that work out?

Big Rasy’s prediction is a no brainer. Once GOP takes over in Jan they will urge US oil to ramp up and offer incentive and give them a reason drill baby.

Heck, maybe they promise to rid nation of Buck and Heel Up at same time?

Dano

From: goelk
12-Jun-22
HEEE i can fly while you drive paying the same price for gas and get there sooner!

From: bigeasygator
12-Jun-22
Once GOP takes over in Jan they will urge US oil to ramp up and offer incentive and give them a reason drill baby.

What incentives is a Republican legislature going to be able to offer?

The implications of what is going on now are profound for the future of oil production in this country. There is no greater incentive to drill than $120/bbl oil, yet production is only ramping up modestly.

At the end of the day, it’s truly an indictment of the US shale business. Unless you have the best acreage, it isn’t a great economic play. I’ve heard the shale business called a Ponzi scheme by some pretty high-ups, and it’s absolutely clear they were right. All the spending and all the growth delivered zero returns over the last decade. It’s truly telling how marginal it is.

Don’t get me wrong, you’re going to see growth and you’re going to see massive profits, but the growth will never be commensurate with what it was when we were kicking off the shale revolution way back when Obama was in office, and you’re going to continue to see more of those profits going to shareholders as opposed to growth.

From: TGbow
12-Jun-22
I've never seen a leftist that didn't want to increase taxes whatever way they can. Maybe some folks think the government should just take over the oil companies...most of us can imagine how that would turn out. Honestly , it blows my mind how anyone could think Obama and Biden did anything to help the economy. BEG, keep believing in that never never land of Marxist Utopia...it might just work out but then again pigs may fly one day also.

From: Dano
12-Jun-22
Incentives come in that first level of what influences the price of oil. Vvvv

Politics: Oil availability and the necessary means to access that oil may result in political conflict between domestic and international jurisdictions.

Politics ,Thats How.

Just as it was politics used to make the price skyrocket.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
12-Jun-22
TGBow, I have no clue what you’re talking about. Where have I advocated for taxes or said Biden was anything but terrible? And never did I say Obama did anything to help the economy. My whole point was that none of these guys have had hardly any influence on the industry - good or bad. And that’s the way it should be.

Shawn, again your posts are too unintelligible to tell if it even makes any sense or not.

From: Dano
13-Jun-22

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10% inflation dead ahead.

What they call it when prices get so high people in mass cub their behavior.

Demand Destruction

This is square in the windshield now.

We are in Oil and Financial Crises’ .

Dano

From: Orion
13-Jun-22
Hit $5.00 for regular unleaded here for the first time ever, over $6.00 for diesel. Hearing rumors for $6.00 regular unleaded by 4th of July weekend. Fun Times

From: Dano
13-Jun-22
Could be? Could slip some if folks cant afford fuel?

So do you take kids and momma to beach this summer of take yourself to the Mts in Sep-Nov?

Dano

From: bigeasygator
13-Jun-22
That is such a poorly written and worded article on that webpage (commodity.com) it's not even funny. Here are some much better articles describing the balance of factors influencing oil price:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/15/what-drives-oil-prices.html

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/determining-oil-prices.asp

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesbooksauthors/2021/01/25/factors-that-influence-pricing-of-oil-and-gas/?sh=50485838338d

https://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas/energy-primers/gas-prices-explained

It is as simple as supply and demand and everything else is , Shawn. Yes, there's a lot to unpack in terms of what goes into supply and what goes into demand, but there current situation is fairly straightforward. Supply is "down" because of the pandemic and because of the poor returns provided by the industry over the last decade. This is exacerbated by the supply related issues associated with the war in Ukraine. Usage is up globally as we deal with a recovering economy and the pent up demand associated with years of a limited economy. Subsequently, markets are tight and price is up.

From: Orion
13-Jun-22
Fortunately I can do both. Have noticed a lot less tourists around here so far though. Usually we are pretty inundated with out of state license plates by now, but it definitely seems to be down

From: Michael
13-Jun-22
With summer here the boat will be left in the garage for awhile. Never have been a fan of fishing when it’s hot. That will save an average of 80 gallons a week for the supply side of things. Lol

From: Dano
13-Jun-22
Yep, called Demand Destruction.

Exxon did not pay enough in Taxes for BuckfoeJiden. He and Woke Hill Gang think they make to much and all Oul must be taxed into oblivion.

Big Sleasy: who gives a chit how its written. You aint bin right yet. Stick to wrapping chain on the derrick and drill us some crude.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
13-Jun-22
Big Sleasy: who gives a chit how its written. You aint bin right yet. Stick to wrapping chain on the derrick and drill us some crude.

I give a chit how it’s written. It’s poorly worded and it ignores or downplays the true forces moving oil prices. No wonder you’re wrong half the time and unintelligible the other half of that’s the kinda sources you’re cutting and pasting from. FYI, your phone autocorrected “wrong” to “right,” Shawn. You might wanna get that checked out.

And no one throws chain on Deepwater rigs, which is my area of operations. When we need input on how to register fake accounts on Bowsite, we’ll seek your counsel. Otherwise, you can let the people that actually know what’s going on handle things.

From: Dano
13-Jun-22
And we gives a chit about big sleasy anything why?

I just finished wiring fence on the farm this morning and who gives a chit.

Fuel will be way up there come July. Said on ten different threads on BS. Big picture whives a phuck?

You got both Buck Fiden and Bernie Sanders on consecutive days in the middle of an oil , food and economic crisis saying Windfall Tax Oil Companies.

What more do you need to get it?! These are Socialists.

Dano

From: Babysaph
13-Jun-22
As long as the social issues are addressed I’m good with the gas prices

From: Dano
13-Jun-22
Oil up sharply.

Consumer sentiment is at all time low 50.2.

Here comes the boom folks. Dont panic folks keep your head. Even big Oil gettin hammered today.

Demand destruction,

Low supply

Behind on refinement.

Buck Fiden World is here. Powell and Fed needs to just go away.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
13-Jun-22

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This article sums it up and offers a look ahead.

Why there’s no relief in sight for soaring oil and gas prices

…President Biden is reportedly agonizing over sky-high energy prices that threaten to wreck his presidency. But it’s not a U.S.-centric problem, and there’s very little he can do. Biden, like many others, wants U.S. oil and gas producers to drill more. U.S. production is growing modestly and likely to hit a new record next year. But energy producers have been burned many times in boom and bust cycles, where prices rise, they drill more, then prices crash and they lose money.

“High prices aren’t good for us,” Mike Wirth, CEO of Chevron, said during a June 7 event sponsored by the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “They never last. In our industry, demand always moves faster than supply. Incentives are there for the producers to produce. This is not always the most popular thing, but allow markets to work.”

That may sound disingenuous, given that Chevron is one of the oil majors booking huge profits right now. But many industry executives point out that U.S. energy firms overproduced for years leading up to the 2020 COVID recession, which turned into a bloodbath for the fossil fuel industry as demand collapsed and oil prices even went negative for a brief spell. That was a searing experience energy firms and their investors don’t want to repeat.

From: Dano
13-Jun-22
You may wanna look what Jimmy Peanut did and he did a bunch. Most of it was Woke Hill 1976 but he did a couple things that worked. Little different SitRep here and now.

OK, Some I am going to take a big bite of this sh!t sammich tomorrow or Wed. Going to buy more Oil stock and some Energy ETF's. Thye aint making it no more and if it bumps down again OK, I catch it it on the up swing next time.

I can officially say without my Oil investments and some are very old. Those withstanding and seperate I have lost all my Black since Dec 2020. Obiden has train wrecked this baby and there is no denying that.

FJB

Dano

From: Dano
14-Jun-22
Knew Opec would not come thru. Output down in May …… Hmmnnn

As i said “they will keep supply below demand. Not hard to figure and i dont squat about oil production. Just common sense.

What was thread Get Ready ?

Bush hogged and laid fence. Glad i filled those tanks in March.

Dano

From: Dano
15-Jun-22
Hey, we good news. Buck Fiden is going to use emergency powers to make Oil Companies refine and or pump more oil and produce more distillant's for America.

Because Executive Power regulations always. If LunchBox does this we are truly phukd!

You cant make it much worse i hear folks telling me all over. I respond "you wanna bet? Your talking about O'biden. He can turn anything into a huge pile of chit. Look what he has done to the country in 18 months."

Dano

From: TGbow
15-Jun-22
Dano, some people will make excuses for Biden no matter what he does. Biden made it very clear before he was elected what he was going to do... pertaining to the oil companies and other issues as well. He has made a mess of everything he has touched, a person would have to be ignorant, naive or delusional to deny it.

From: Dano
15-Jun-22
I daw his Anti Oil soapbox rif during the Dirty Dem Primaries.

Now he wants to Regulate Oil with Emergency Executive Power. The sure recipe for disaster.

I warned all BS that we will have to buckle up because Oil Co’s not doing Joe Poopy Pants any favors until the Sanity Party takes over.

Bowlib’s all tapping out on here. Looking for big bouldrs to crawl under until GOP sweeps in Nov.

Then, they will come out swinging. Some may show here during riot season to tell us its Maga doing the burning.

Like telling Portland residents that its not Antifa , its Liberty Botz doing it all. Uh Huh, right.

Dano

From: TGbow
15-Jun-22
Yep, the regular leftist/Marxist tactics.

I have to say I don't have much faith in the Republican leadership since the NeoCons seem to be pulling the strings. The laim stream media will be fighting the fight for their side as usual. Desantis is the only one I can think of that might be a good choice if he will steer clear of the Bushite/Republicrats

From: bigeasygator
15-Jun-22
Dano, some people will make excuses for Biden no matter what he does.

I don’t see anyone here either making excuses for Biden or even supporting any of his policy. I’ve said multiple times his policies are terrible (even if they have little to do with the current supply crunch). And you’ve finally got one thing right, Shawn. He can cry and moan and stomp his feet all he wants, but - as I’ve also said multiple times on this thread - he can’t force companies to spend money if they don’t want to. Right now, they don’t want to for reasons entirely independent of what party is control of the White House or Congress.

From: Dano
15-Jun-22
Not what im hearing from my Representative.

He has same authority Carter had and used against Oil well head owners and producers.

May want to read some history of the failures of Carter that Buck wants to relive.

We will let BS determine who got this Oil Crisis correct. Big Sleazy Bowlib can tell us where oil is but cant tellus much after it hits markets and the politics of that.

The Prince is in the catbird seat. Lets see what deal Joebama can make in Saudi. Jobummer will dance a jig but may well get not much fir it.

Back to reality. New Record high for distillates. Keep listening to Big Sleazy your heating oil bill will be $2/gal soon.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
15-Jun-22
Not what im hearing from my Representative.

What isn't what you're hearing? Be specific man.

He has same authority Carter had and used against Oil well head owners and producers.

Which was what, Shawn?

We will let BS determine who got this Oil Crisis correct.

Cool. They can either vote for the guy who said oil would be $160/bbl by now and predicted $200/bbl later in the year and who has provided such insights like "demand will be zero if supply goes to zero." Or they can vote for the guy who works in the industry, who is telling you exactly why prices are high and why markets are likely to remain tightly supplied.

15-Jun-22
Policy has a huge affect on gas pricing. Non-debatable. We’ve all said that. Arguing over short term affects and who’s to blame is disingenuous. It’s ridiculous.

Because government policy is to blame. And, bidens policy is nothing more then a smoke and mirror game. He’s sticking to the plan like glue too. There is no debating that.

So, what are we arguing about then?

From: Dano
15-Jun-22
Who would vote for Bowlib who keeps calling me Shawn.

Who could be drscribed as a high IQ Citiodit.

If your in Oil biz and dont know how Dems addressed the oul crisis under Carter i wiuld look for work on the boat ferrying biz. Call Cpt Obvious.

Dano

15-Jun-22
Why is he not gone yet...SMH

From: Dano
15-Jun-22
You a cancel culture pony running off Woke Hill and gonna triple down on Buck Fiden in 2024 Eichmann?

All Bowsiters beware. Its these bowlibs who got you into this kimchee bowl we’re in.

Be advised. Where’s all those Bowlibs who decried they voted for Jobama????

You cant find any now. Hmmmmnnnnnn?

Hey Lil Easy

We closer to $150/brl or $80 brl?

Dano

From: bigeasygator
15-Jun-22
If your in Oil biz and dont know how Dems addressed the oul crisis under Carter i wiuld look for work on the boat ferrying biz. Call Cpt Obvious.

You said it, I asked you to enlighten us all. It's a simple question. Biden doesn't have the same options. We don't have price controls like we did under Carter. So tell us what power does Biden have that Carter used to incentivize spending? What are you hearing from your Rep?

We closer to $150/brl or $80 brl?

No one here said anything about $80 right now.

From: Dano
15-Jun-22
Ask your Rep. see what there opinion is.

You have to ask your Potus what he can do.

We closer to 80-90/brl oil or 140-150$/brl? Tell us Lil guy.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
15-Jun-22

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Ask your Rep. see what there opinion is.

You said it, enlighten us. I said Biden can’t do anything to make oil companies spend money. You argued that he’s going to do what Carter did.

Simple math. Spots are $116 and change right now. We’re closer to $90/bbl than we are $150/bbl. Futures prices still showing decreasing contract prices over the rest of the year. Still have no clue why you’re so fixated on this $80-90/bbl number. You’re the only person on this thread that has talked about that price range.

From: Dano
15-Jun-22
Yer full of chit. Never send that. Said je has same powers Carter had.

If sure by now youve gone nack and read what Carter did. What help what did not. I lived it.

BLUF :Until oil prices come down its a big sh!t sammich and we are all taking a bite.

Your worried about Biden symantics?. Cmon, man

Folks are laying off folks out the azz. Rates are over 6% we are seeing inverted yield curves now. Banks and new home starts are in the gutter.

Powell will open his mouth in a minute and your going to see markets dive again.

But im in. Buying Great day to make a killin. In early and took a great ride into black.

Dano

15-Jun-22
LMAO…

From: bigeasygator
15-Jun-22
I said Biden can whine, moan, and cry about oil companies producing more, but he has no power to make them spend money. You said, and I quote: “Not what im hearing from my Representative. He has same authority Carter had and used against Oil well head owners and producers.”

I asked you to clarify and specify. You’ve done neither. Now you’re saying you never said that lol the funniest thing is you’re trying to argue with me after saying essentially what I said (“ Oil Co’s not doing Joe Poopy Pants any favors”).

From: Dano
15-Jun-22
Im not yer butt boy do your own history lesson.

Tell how oil at 120/brl is closer to 80/brl to open day. Dano

From: Beendare
15-Jun-22
Biden playing the blame game- now its the Oil companies.

The industry org came out with 10 policy decisions reversing Obiden’s bad policy that is exacerbating this mess. ( spoiler alert- many I have already posted )

1. Lift Development Restrictions on Federal Lands and Waters

The Department of the Interior (DOI) should swiftly issue a 5-year program for the Outer Continental Shelf and hold mandated quarterly onshore lease sales with equitable terms. DOI should reinstate canceled sales and valid leases on federal lands and waters.

2. Designate Critical Energy Infrastructure Projects

Congress should authorize critical energy infrastructure projects to support the production, processing, and delivery of energy. These projects would be of such concern to the national interest that they would be entitled to undergo a streamlined review and permitting process not to exceed one year.

3. Fix the NEPA Permitting Process

Your administration should revise the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) process by establishing agency uniformity in reviews, limiting reviews to two years, and reducing bureaucratic burdens placed on project proponents in terms of size and scope of application submissions.

4. Accelerate LNG Exports and Approve Pending LNG Applications

Congress should amend the Natural Gas Act to streamline the Department of Energy (DOE) to a single approval process for all U.S. liquefied natural gas (LNG) projects. DOE should approve pending LNG applications to enable the U.S. to deliver reliable energy to our allies abroad.

5. Unlock Investment and Access to Capital

The Securities and Exchange Commission should reconsider its overly burdensome and ineffective climate disclosure proposal and your administration should ensure open capital markets where access is based upon individual company merit free from artificial constraints based on government-preferred investment allocations.

6. Dismantle Supply Chain Bottlenecks

You should rescind steel tariffs that remain on imports from U.S. allies as steel is a critical component of energy production, transportation, and refining. Your administration should accelerate efforts to relieve port congestion so that equipment necessary for energy development can be delivered and installed.

7. Advance Lower Carbon Energy Tax Provisions

Congress should expand and extend Section 45Q tax credits for carbon capture, utilization, and storage development and create a new tax credit for hydrogen produced from all sources.

8. Protect Competition in the Use of Refining Technologies

Your administration should ensure that future federal agency rulemakings continue to allow U.S. refineries to use the existing critical process technologies to produce the fuels needed for global energy markets.

9. End Permitting Obstruction on Natural Gas Projects

The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission should cease efforts to overstep its permitting authority under the Natural Gas Act and should adhere to traditional considerations of public needs as well as focus on direct impacts arising from the construction and operation of natural gas projects.

10. Advance the Energy Workforce of the Future

Congress and your administration should support the training and education of a diverse workforce through increased funding of work-based learning and advancement of STEM programs to nurture the skills necessary to construct and operate oil, natural gas, and other energy infrastructure.

The question is - will the Biden administration do any of them?

From: Dano
15-Jun-22

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From: APauls
15-Jun-22
We are at $8/gallon here. Thankfully my EV6 came in 2.5 weeks ago. My last 1,000km have cost me a total of $1.94. I don't believe mining lithium is great for the globe, but it is better for my personal financials. I used to do minimum 70km's a day during the week in my F-150. Now it sits and I put up the km's in the EV.

From: Dano
15-Jun-22
How much your EV cost? 40-50k unless its Gvt subsidized?

Must be nice to chit out 40 G’s in middle of a recession?

Good for you though. Some guys need a diesel to tow equipment and do work. Stuff like feeding the country. Just small stuff like that.

Nice to see one guy not hettin Ffff’d over by Joe.

Dano

Dano

From: Beendare
15-Jun-22
Funny how all of the recommendations by the Petroleum institute is pointing out exactly what most of us know, its Obiden admin's BAD POLICY that caused a lot of this mess and for sure is making it worse.

The Liberal Dem news media and couple guys here hanging on to the claim that the president can't influence oil prices- Funny. First of all- it happened, its a reality. Second, The Petroleum institute clearly points out where he went wrong with his policy.

The problem for Americans is that Biden may never admit he is wrong and we will have to suffer with the high prices and more inflation for a very long time.

Bidens doing nothing but spending and trying hard to pull us into a war. The Fed reserve will have to drive the country into a recession........or Stagflation trying to lessen the demand for oil in an attempt to solve Bidens mess....but of course the Biden apologists will blame that on something else too.

The midterms cannot come fast enough.....

From: bigeasygator
15-Jun-22
Funny how all of the recommendations by the Petroleum institute is pointing out exactly what most of us know, its Obiden admin's BAD POLICY that caused a lot of this mess and for sure is making it worse.

By my count, six of the ten items on that list were issues well before Biden took office. Only recommendations #1, 3, 5, and 9 involve significant changes from the Trump to Biden administration. Regarding the "current mess," these are all recommendations that won't have any immediate effect on price. I support all of the API recommendations, but they are all aimed at ensuring the long-term security of the industry (which is part of APIs mission) and will do little for current prices at the pump.

From: Dano
15-Jun-22
3 things going on late today and getting kicked around DC with Buck Fiden and US Oil

1. Price Controls

2. Windfall Profit Taxes

3. Gvt take over of Oil thru Emergecy/ Def Production Act.

Yes Sir good old LunchBox Joe the Merry Progressives.

Hard to believe These phukwads like Kerry And Rice are whisper chit like this into Bucks ear. Ok, i know it goes straight thru but they are running the show. So, this is gettin serious.

I van see it now John Kerry in charge of the US Gvt nationalizing Oil!!!!! Dano

From: Michael
15-Jun-22
Oil sure didn’t like the Fed raising rates by .75%.

How much does ESG way in on future drilling? I don’t see banks loaning any money for oil projects with that crap.

From: Dano
15-Jun-22
Well big banks can do purty good when rates get high enough that people with liquid assets put $ into them!

I spend part of each fay in front of several monitors

Today was a good day. Lots a folks made big $ today.

Oil is making a good buck even at $60brl and thats why you see oil companies buying back stock around that price and a little more.

With prices this high they can up that price to buyback.

Dano

From: bigeasygator
15-Jun-22
You want a prediction, Shawn? None of those things will happen. Windfall profit tax would be the only one I give a remote chance to. And I mean remote.

How much does ESG way in on future drilling? I don’t see banks loaning any money for oil projects with that crap.

It’s had more to do with those banks losing money on oil bets over the last dozen years than it has to do with ESG. In fact, you can see a lot of the ESG momentum reversing course with current prices. Look at some of the recent statements coming out from the likes of Blackrock and others on their shifting feelings towards ESG.

From: Dano
15-Jun-22
Hey LilSleazy , Again this is what Riden with Biden folks are saying not me.

Im with ya Lil guy. Buck is out on a plank with a double chocolate cone and its 102 degrees.

Dano

From: Dano
21-Jun-22

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Idaho today, bear hunting.

FJB

DanO

From: Dano
21-Jun-22

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21-Jun-22
I'm in Scotland right now on vacation. Gas is $9/gallon here.

21-Jun-22
That stinks. Scotland is one of Europe's biggest oil producers.

From: bigeasygator
21-Jun-22
That’s what those Scots get for voting Biden #sarcasm

I was just there for two weeks, Idyllwild. Edinburgh, St. Andrews, and Inverness. At least the dollar is ridiculously strong. Was about 25-30% cheaper thanks to the exchange rate versus my last trip there.

From: Dano
21-Jun-22
In the 20’s last nite at 8700ft. Travel light freeze at night.

Some passes still closed.

Some Gas and diesel over $7/gal. We reached the thread threshold in high country.

FJB

DanO

From: Rocky D
22-Jun-22
“ Retirement accounts lose trillions in stock rut Americans are feeling the pain when they look at their 401(k)s”

I guess Joe B. has nothing to do with this either! First declared no fault presidency ever!

From: Dano
22-Jun-22
Lotsa Bowlibs voted for this Loser.

Thankful i got into Oil a long long time ago. Saved my arse in this Buck Fiden depression!

DanO

From: Axel
22-Jun-22
The cabal that pulls creepy Joe's puppet strings (it isn't just Joe, nearly any member from the Democrat Socialist Party and many from the other Party) have everything to do with today's oil prices. They want to end all fossil fuel usage and soon, soon being in the next few decades. What they don't want is for any sheep to actually wake up, so they want lower pricing for right now. What they have done in terms of shutting down active drilling (in Alaska and the Gulf as these leases need to be renewed) and what they have done in terms of regulation for transportation (pipelines), refining and fracking is an absolute attack on our very own economy. In the meantime we will become more reliant on Arab and Russian oil during the "transition". All part of the "fundamental change" we were promised over a decade ago now. Well it's being fully installed from A-Z. Of course electric vehicles will solve all of this, they get their energy from the magic wall!

From: bigeasygator
22-Jun-22
Thinking Oil Companies ate going spend extra to ramp refining up along with energy companies to do same

Huh?

Regardless...a gas tax holiday would be a horrible idea. Pretty sure that UPenn did a study that said suspending it would save the average family $18...in total. All it would do is generate more demand, adding further imbalance to the supply/demand equation. So any savings from the tax are essentially wiped out by increased demand for oil/gas that comes along with it. Obama was right when he called it a gimmick.

From: Axel
22-Jun-22
Suspending the gas tax would maybe buy you a tank of gas over the summer. Literally. This is the cabal's attempt to placate the sheep and nothing more.

From: Dano
22-Jun-22
“Thinking Oil Companies ate going spend extra to ramp refining up along with energy companies to do same”

Huh

Huh?

DanO

From: Beendare
22-Jun-22
I previously posted 10 things Biden could do that would help fix the problem.

Goldman Sacks posted 3 things Obiden can do right now to lower gas prices....but of course he won't do it as the environmentalists would have a cow. They doubt the Dem Congress will approve the gas tax moratorium.

FROM GS; Regulatory changes which the White House could make without Congress, including issuing Reid VaporPressure (RVP) waivers, and which would allow the sale of cheaper winter-blend gasoline during the summer

Jones Act waivers, which would allow generally less expensive foreign vessels to transport fuel between US ports

Easing the Renewable Volume Obligation (RVO), which has seen increased compliance costs for refiners as Renewable Identification Numbers (RINs)—the credits purchased to comply with the program—have traded substantially higher over the last two years.

22-Jun-22
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…This administration has said ‘we’ need to suffer!

From: bigeasygator
22-Jun-22
Goldman Sachs isn’t wrong. Those items would probably knock 25 cents of the current price of gas.

From: Dano
22-Jun-22
How about increasing supply?

How about approving refineries without 5 years EIS then 5yrs of lawsuits of the EIS’s.

Use Def Prod Act to fast track refineries builds. Still take a few years.

DanO

22-Jun-22
How about abandoning all the new green deal garbage, embrace fossil fuels as our ticket to prosperity, influence in the world, and security.

Then go "green" the smart way using the free market and innovation that comes from free and prosperous people.

From: bigeasygator
22-Jun-22
How about increasing supply?

By doing what?

Use Def Prod Act to fast track refineries builds. Still take a few years.

Look at Shawn calling for Socialism.

From: RK
22-Jun-22
You know BEG Shawn has not been spot on with his assessments. But in all honestly neither have you

You agreed with GS But yiu did not initiate that either

That’s just an observation on my part and it means nothing I spend a fair amount of time fishing and hunting with I guess would be regarded as some hitters in your industry and they keep me up dated with lots of issues.

You may be the BS PETROLEUM expert but you seem to be short on some issues.

That is not important. It’s just an internet archery site. Nothing more or less And thus should not be deemed to important

From: Dano
22-Jun-22
What happens when yer in a bubble. Cant see outside the bubbles umbrella.

Cant blame him. Best golfer in world lost 3 times as much and he won.

Only thing big easy an expert on is …… well nevermind.

DanO

From: Michael
22-Jun-22
To add to the bad idea of a gas tax holiday. Those tax dollars are needed for either current road projects or future road projects. What happens when there isn’t funding for them?

From: bigeasygator
22-Jun-22
But in all honestly neither have you

You may be the BS PETROLEUM expert but you seem to be short on some issues.

Go ahead and elaborate on both points, RK. What have I not been spot on about? Where issues am I short on?

23-Jun-22
“ To add to the bad idea of a gas tax holiday. Those tax dollars are needed for either current road projects or future road projects. What happens when there isn’t funding for them?”

Haaa, come to CA and see it in person…Total BS, that’ll help or improve the ‘road projects’!

From: RonP
24-Jun-22
“ To add to the bad idea of a gas tax holiday. Those tax dollars are needed for either current road projects or future road projects. What happens when there isn’t funding for them?”

It'll be another guvmint induced crisis where we are pounded non stop by the MSM with stories of how mothers and newborns are not getting baby formula, monkeypox is spreading because of it, PPE is not getting delivered to hospitals and nurses are forced to wear garbage bags, children are not learning in schools because of the lack of supplies, etc. One thing for sure is some minority 'community' will be disproportionately effected and they'll be in front of the camera.

Yeh, it'll be something along those lines. Take your pick. :)

From: Dano
27-Jun-22

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Prolly be the high price the country has ever seen for July 4th

DaNo

From: Dano
27-Jun-22

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^^^^^^

From: Babysaph
27-Jun-22
I don’t mind the high cost of fuel as long as social issues are being addressed lol. Once we get electric cars we will be fine. Besides gas cars are bad for the environment. I heard a guy say they would pay $10 gal as long as Trump wasn’t in the Whitehouse.

From: JL
27-Jun-22
Saturday I paid $5.99 for rec gas. I was saying it was still too expensive at $3.99 not too long ago.

From: Old Bow
27-Jun-22

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It’s the best economy ever

From: Dano
27-Jun-22
Thats LBGTQ for ya. Nat chit nutz.

DaNo

From: Dano
28-Jun-22
^^**

What we all knew would happen under Buck Fiden

HH~

From: Dano
28-Jun-22

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From: bigeasygator
28-Jun-22

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Upstream part of the industry has been busy growing under Biden after shedding 25% of industry jobs under Trump.

From: Dano
28-Jun-22
You mean during Covid!!

Yer such a Lib

CCI index lowest since 1913.

800 point swing into the red and day not over yet. Oil up almost 3%.

You may get something tight but it aint going to be today!

HH~

From: bigeasygator
28-Jun-22
And we weren't still experience COVID related supply and demand impacts in 2021??

Registered Libertarian, so thanks, Hedgehunter.

28-Jun-22
I think gas prices should be higher in predominantly Democratic states. Especially California and New York. :)

From: bwhntr1953
28-Jun-22

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Some may remember this. November 18th, 1956. Fast forward 66 years. I was yet a lad but I remember this very well.
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Some may remember this. November 18th, 1956. Fast forward 66 years. I was yet a lad but I remember this very well.

From: Dano
28-Jun-22
Really

What state has a Parrish that has a Libertarian Primary?

When i hear that lame affiliation i chuckle. Its like self identifying as a perennial loser. Its a feel good indentification.

Tell me how many Libertarian Party members hold any elected office in WA DC?

Maybe you can run.

HH~

From: Dano
29-Jun-22

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Cant wait to see what this welfare does to supply and fuel prices!

HH~

From: Dano
30-Jun-22

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Tagged me another

HH~

From: Grey Ghost
30-Jun-22
Nice to see you come out of your closet, Shawn.

Matt

From: Dano
30-Jun-22
By the Pic you can see these colors dont run but toward gunfire as i have done since i was just a kid.

Draw Fire Yardbird

Sua Sponte’

HH~

From: Axel
30-Jun-22
Creepy Joe under orders from his babysitters declared war on the oil industry immediately upon taking the stage. Futures traders have much to do about oil prices. The cabal was heard clearly. We have more coal than any other nation on the planet. China is going big on coal, dirtier coal burning by far than what we have. Germany is now making a move back to coal, although they meekly claim it will be temporary. We have enough oil and nat gas to supply energy to this country for hundreds of years at todays demand level. As soon as we get a new administration that applies common sense and actually works for the better of the USA and its citizens you'll see a long term downward adjustment to oil prices and gas at the pump. This America hating hybrid socialist cabal presently in power has been a disaster for America on every issue.

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