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Whergo with 7 CO PP
Mule Deer
Contributors to this thread:
Starfire 24-Mar-22
Beendare 24-Mar-22
Grey Ghost 24-Mar-22
Treeline 24-Mar-22
Jaquomo 24-Mar-22
badbull 24-Mar-22
FORESTBOWS 24-Mar-22
Pop-r 25-Mar-22
Jahvada 26-Mar-22
Treeline 26-Mar-22
Jahvada 26-Mar-22
sticksender 26-Mar-22
lineman21 26-Mar-22
cnelk 26-Mar-22
JohnMC 26-Mar-22
cnelk 26-Mar-22
Quinn @work 26-Mar-22
Jahvada 11-Apr-22
Teeton 11-Apr-22
Treeline 11-Apr-22
Kurt 11-Apr-22
Grasshopper 12-Apr-22
Grasshopper 12-Apr-22
Treeline 12-Apr-22
JohnMC 12-Apr-22
Teeton 12-Apr-22
From: Starfire
24-Mar-22
I have just spent about 4 hours going over the CO stats. It's very confusing with all the hunt codes but it seems like most units are 0-2 PP or 21 (unit 10) which I will probably never get to. Is it worth buying anymore?

From: Beendare
24-Mar-22
The million dollar question.

Personally, I gave up on Co when I realized I would never get drawn for Bull Moose, Sheep- so I drew out on a cow tag. When I correctly figured that it would take me almost 2 decades to draw the elk unit that I hunted back in 2010 I just said forget it.

From: Grey Ghost
24-Mar-22
Personally, I think an eastern plains tag is the best CO deer tag you can have. It's a 3 month long season (minus a few weeks during rifle), and you can hunt the rut. The down side is, you'll need private access (not likely), or you'll need to book an outfitter.

If you want a DIY mountain hunt in Sept on public land, throw a dart at the map, and hope you see one deer for every 10 hunters you see.

Matt

From: Treeline
24-Mar-22
Nope. The units that take the most points do not have the populations nor the top end of most of the lower point units.

From: Jaquomo
24-Mar-22
PM sent

From: badbull
24-Mar-22
PM sent

24-Mar-22
Unit 35

From: Pop-r
25-Mar-22

From: Jahvada
26-Mar-22
Eastern pains…. With the flat out chitty season dates or Co now has the worst starting date for any western state for archery deer. We lost the best 5-6 days to the “elk only cba”.. This has lead to extreme crowding and made the high country hunts less than desirable. Or moving the season made it so in some units you have 3 days before rifle hunters are chuckin 600-1000yd shots and the deer that are alive are in the trees 24 hrs later.. Other places muzzy hunters will be scouting while you are hunting as the seasons are stacked right on top of each other..

Fair to say loosing the best 5-6 days of hunting had a giant impact on hunting the high country.

Kinda sad to see how archery deer season was degraded to the point of now it is fair to say the experience of high country mule deer has gotten to the point that the best place is eastern plains.

I honestly am looking at lower country/burns on the front range as with the late dates, ease of getting licenses, late dates, and crowding the high country does not have the appeal it once did.

Thanks again cba!!!

From: Treeline
26-Mar-22
Have to agree, high country deer hunting has been really messed up in Colorado by the new season dates and the CPw war on mature bucks. A lot fewer big bucks now up in the high country where I hunt than at any time I can remember.

It is far worse these days than it was when all the sportsmen got together and pushed for limiting all deer tags in this state to bring back our deer back in the late 90’s. Our deer herds have been and continue to be decimated by mismanagement…

From: Jahvada
26-Mar-22
I hear you tree.. This might be the first year in quite a while I do something that was incomprehensible just 3 years ago or I am thinking of using my points on a rifle hunt.

Archery deer has gotten that bad in Colorado… Sad scene when archery deer hunters opinions do t matter at all to not only the cpw but also totally disregarded by the cba..

From: sticksender
26-Mar-22
I could be mistaken but I thought the CBA proposed to have archery-only high country deer seasons run the 2nd half of August, but it didn't fly with the CPW. I doubt there's any member of the CBA who wouldn't want that. Of course the CBA or any other group doesn't get to dictate CPW's decisions.

From: lineman21
26-Mar-22
I was in no man’s land last year and cashed in my points on a “lesser” unit. Had the best hunt I’ve ever had. PM me if you’d like to hear more about it.

From: cnelk
26-Mar-22
I used 7 PPs on a 3 PP unit a few years ago. Best hunt ever

From: JohnMC
26-Mar-22
Jahve how are you coming to that conclusion?

From: cnelk
26-Mar-22
Jahvada/ColoradoV has had a stick up his ass about the CBA for years.

From: Quinn @work
26-Mar-22
Sticksender don’t lent facts get in the way of Jahvada’s anti CBA rant.

He only surfaces a few times a year mostly when he doesn’t get what he wants.

From: Jahvada
11-Apr-22
When it came down to it cba choose to push a agenda to take the best days from archery deer to enhance elk hunting only. The cpw said they were willing to stick w status quo but cba was not. Truth……….

In the end a spade is a spade the cba elk only choice cost deer hunters the best 5-6 days and the cba could care less. As it is only about otc elk w them.

Doubt it will change but again a spade is a spade. And this “rebel bastard” will continue to call a spade a spade. I only come in here a few times a year as it has gotten quite stale/boring listening to the same 4 posters who I guess just love living in forums and have nothing better to do in real life I guess ?????

Enjoy your late days elk hunters caus ya flat screwed over other hunters in the process to get em.

Also don’t worry I will be back 3-4 times a year to well call a spade a spade.

From: Teeton
11-Apr-22
I'm setting on 23 deer points. Was going to start looking at areas for 2023 or 2024. Was thinking of drive rv out and take the atv to get in on forest service roads. From there, 2 /3 day bivy Hunts.

Only thing that would change my plans would be if I found anyother guy that had enough points to do a hunt together.

I was thinking of a August vaction this summer to check out some areas. But at 6 or 7 miles to a gallon in the rv, not quite sure about that. Being that it would be a 4500/5000k around trip.

From: Treeline
11-Apr-22
Ed, you might be better off to fly out and get a rental vehicle…. That is a ton of points! Although it is painful, you can draw much better hunts for deer quality with 20 less points than if you focused on the units that take that kind of points…

From: Kurt
11-Apr-22
CO archery season is certainly a lot better than BC where we have a 9 day archery (includes cross bows) deer and Jr rifle (any weapon) deer season the first 9 days of September, followed by a 3 month rifle/any weapon OTC season. This combined with unlimited First Nations hunting, including at night is not a good system to produce very many big bucks....Ambush excluded.

From: Grasshopper
12-Apr-22
Actual true facts will never be used by Jahvada, worse then CNN.

Fact: CBA had CPW staff support for early deer west of I-25 for most of the BGSS proceess, until a new director was appointed and declined his support.

Fact: The whole push for moving the season dates as they were adopted was commissioner Robert Bray. He was in support of all the dates we have now, and was the sole reason for the change. The rules are set by commissioners, not the CBA, or Jabba.

Fact: I believe all CBA members are deer hunters, our member survey showed wide support for early deer, and we represented that. Go listen to the audio. Our chairman, is a die hard mulie hunter.

Fact: Never seen a person so bent on axe grinding, that has the facts 100% wrong, and no clue how the process works or went. Get a clue, and get off the weed.

What is it with people who just need to place blame constantly? It is always someone elses fault.

From: Grasshopper
12-Apr-22

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Here is the written testimony for early deer to the PWC. Let me know when you will be apologizing.

At one point the proposal was to start deer mid August, but CPW support was not there.

From: Treeline
12-Apr-22
Was at several meetings with CPW. The CBA was trying hard for a mid-August start for deer and a September 1 start for elk. It seemed like the CPW was OK with that. Got shot down with the Commission for some reason…

From: JohnMC
12-Apr-22
Jahvada as a board member of the CBA. I must say you are mistaken. As Lou said our chairman is a mule deer nut. The archery seasons are incredible important to the CBA. There are members on the board that have great relationships with those at CPW. Had you been at the CBA board meeting recently held before the banquet or the question and answer section. There is much discussion about seasons including the timing of deer seasons.

I think many CBA members and the board would love to see moving deer season west of I-25 to coincide with pronghorn season dates. There are a lot of conversations being had about what we would like to see in the next 5 year structure. There also a lot pressure to separate the archery and muzzleloader seasons. That is also a top issue keeping the number of days with have during the season.

With all that said the CBA does not make the rules for archery hunting in CO but works very hard on behalf of our members. If you would take a second look at what the CBA does I think you would see a group of highly passionate bowhunters, that are doing a excellent job representing bowhunters in CO. They are a group that give a tremendous amount of their time to fight for what you are knocking them for not doing. If you are willing to re-examine your thought on the CBA I think you might have a change of heart.

I’d encourage anyone that hunts CO or wants to in the future to join. For your membership you get a magazine that rivals any hunting magazine out there. It is a great way to keep up with issue the CBA are working on.

From: Teeton
12-Apr-22
Treeline, Doing my research into it. But once you start getting points you kinda dont want to stop. Things as you change, and what could of took 5 point for a nonres. Could take 10+ points a few year later. I dont know what it even takes in points, to hunt the highest point unit.

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