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Been waiting for someone else to start this, was hoping Robert would;-)
Tried to be open minded, here’s my take so far. The partisan committee has not proved Trump organized this debacle; however, he ignored multiple pleas to put an end to it, and his words might have incited some into thinking trump wanted them to take action.
Unless the narrative changes as the hearings progress, I do not see anything he can be prosecuted for but I hope they agree to a ban on him being elected again.
Hopefully the same committee will look into Hillary’s lies regarding Russia collusion, just out of fairness.
8.6% inflation for the month of May. Accelerating at the fastest pace in 41 years. Nobody gives a rat a$$ about Jan. 6.
Go have some double stuffed Oreos and milk. Start a thread a thread bow related instead of politics.
Well at least as of late, the Community Forum is definitely back!! Thanks Pat!! lol!
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LOL. Ban from being elected?? Hysterical, got anymore 1 liners.. the ladies love jokes.
Liz Chaney for President.
fun fact.... for seditious conspiracy, treason, and other like charges. "not doing anything" is in fact punishable under said laws. Especially so if you are the president who isn't doing anything.
IE... you're informed of xyz coup/overthrow happening, and you choose to do nothing. That's a crime.
Shawn- She can call a spade a spade and she has integrity. She’s got bigger balls than you LMAO.
Who is Ray Epps, and why won’t the democrats talk about the video tape of him inciting a riot?
The only thing right now that has a direct link to a comment and violent action is schumer's recent sedition against two sitting SCOTUS justices.
It's amazing how educated people actually have fallen for the conspiracy lies of the liberal media and Jan 6...
Only a Trumper would demonize someone who voted with Trump 95% and chose country over politics.
“It's amazing how educated people actually have fallen for the conspiracy lies of the liberal media and Jan 6...“
Screw the media. Just watch the raw footage. Nuff said.
It’s amazing that so called “patriots” would trade any politician over country. Especially a con man.
Soccer mom, “fun fact.... for seditious conspiracy, treason, and other like charges. "not doing anything" is in fact punishable under said laws. Especially so if you are the president who isn't doing anything. IE... you're informed of xyz coup/overthrow happening, and you choose to do nothing. That's a crime.“
How about declining the use of the National Guard’s protection THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY REQUESTED BY SAID PRESIDENT BEFORE THE RALLY EVEN HAPPENED? Is that a crime or just absolutely stupid. Also, I seem to remember an appearance from the president live on television telling them to go home and leave the capital grounds. How convenient we forget those “fun facts”.
“Also, I seem to remember an appearance from the president live on television telling them to go home and leave the capital grounds. How convenient we forget those “fun facts””
3 hours after they breached the capital.
“3 hours after they breached the capital.“ Oh but no rebuttal for Nasty Pelosi denying the use of National guard ahead of the rally? Oh I know why… because there just isn’t one. Plain and simple.
Inflation and high gas prices are fleeting in the context of our 243 year-old republic. Reading some of the posts above is the equivalent of watching kitten bat around a ball of yarn. Wool yarn.
“The Washington Post and USA Today have both debunked Trump's claim. USA Today wrote that Pelosi's office was never contacted by the president regarding such a recommendation, and the Pentagon has denied having record of the request. Additionally, the Department of Defense's timeline of the events leading up to the Capitol riot also makes no mention of a National Guard request, and the former House sergeant-at-arms said he had no discussions with congressional leaders about the matter, according to USA Today.”
No chance Trump lied…nah. Im sure the committee will cover that…with evidence and testimony.
Just more leftie propaganda to distract from gas prices and inflation.
"inflation..." "oil shortage..." "Ray Epps..." "gas prices..."
Deflect. Deflect. Deflect. Deflect.
Sorry, nothing is going to deflect attention from Trump attempting a coup. That's not "leftie propaganda", it's HISTORY.
Look what's become of the "Bowsite".
Get out of doors, life's too long to waste
Hee Haw Hee Haw! They're getting ready to declare war on Christians and Conservatives. The msm is already calling out whites for their Nationalism and intolerance of democracy. They aim to kill us. fjb!
We should hold all the democrats responsible for allowing and encouraging all the riots to happen. Crickets on that one. Let’s hold the Dems responsible for encouraging all these young kids into thinking they are the opposite gender from how they were biologically born. Let’s hold the Dems responsible for encouraging all these idiotic identity pronouns. Let’s hold the Dems responsible for the idiotic idea of green energy.
I’m seriously worried about our country. I would choose 20 Trump’s over any woke Democrat President.
Hard to believe idiot hunters exist who voted for Biden.
Just like it’s hard to believe so many brush off Jan 6th like it was just some good ol’ boys havin’ a little fun.
I do not agree with the events of January 6th, but I sure as hell am not stupid enough to have voted for the current state of affairs. Biden is doing exactly as he promised to voters pre election, why do so many act surprised? It can only be stupidity.
So when are the hearings for Ashli Babbit's murderer? Wait, I know, right after Hillary's.
Im sure the committee will cover that…with evidence and testimony."
they had "evidence and testimony" that insisted trump was colluding with russia too...so whats your point.
"Sorry, nothing is going to deflect attention from Trump attempting a coup. That's not "leftie propaganda", it's BULLSHIT!"
There, I fixed it for you.
I'd rather watch reruns of the Democrat riots and mayhem during the Summer of Love
But Jaq, they were "mostly peaceful"! Just ask CNN!
Many people could have called in help including Pelosi who is actually in charge of house security. Just another waste of money and a joke. Just like anyone who actually believes there is something to it.
“they had "evidence and testimony" that insisted trump was colluding with russia too...so whats your point.“
The point is they were both constitutional processes and they will present evidence and testimony. We will see if it’s enough for the DOJ to charge Trump. I doubt it but we will see..
“I'd rather watch reruns of the Democrat riots and mayhem during the Summer of Love“
I love the mental gymnastics. Justifying January 6 due to the George Floyd riots. Pretty simple, they are both wrong and unpatriotic. But most of you won’t admit that.
Don't care and neither does the majority of the country.
Q: does Schumer's comments about SCOTUS amount to instigating insurrection against our 3rd co-equal branch of Government?
Explain the difference to me .
Hageman is not for Wyoming, we do not want her in office. Trump picked the wrong person to back. She is not public land friendly or a public land hunter ally.
All they did was introduce key points. Making a case for anything off the introduction paragraph of an article doesnt make sense - nor does it make sense off the intro of a hearing/presentation like this.
That said, thus far, a few tidbits surprised me, despite having tried to read a lot to stay on top of developments with it. The reality is that the guy lost the pop vote 2X (16 and 20) and the EC 1X (20). The other reality is that before, during and currently, he's determined to tell you that fraud is the only way he can lose, yet every time - including when HIS PEOPLE - investigate said fraud, there is so little, that you have better odds of dying from covid AND THEN coming back to win powerball than either of his elections being steered by fraud. He's also never articulated how during all this massive fraud, his was the only fraudulent election. Not the lady who is an R that won some local / state race on the same ballot or the guy who won a fed rep seat etc... Those were all totally cool, just his was stolen. That's rhetorical, his wasnt and theirs wasnt. He lost. Had he just said as much, and even weakly accepted defeat, it's incredibly hard to believe the capitol riot would have happened. Strains credibility for me to believe otherwise.
So, is the riot in the capitol with folks smearing their feces on the wall and trying to stop (momentarily succeeding) a normal function of the US government a really really really bad thing, and at the feet of the guy, who at the time, was in charge? Yes.
Strawmen are poor arguments. I fall into using them at times in an attempt to create an analogy, and it's frustrating when I realize it. Here is a fun example:
BLM riots were ok but not a riot in the capital? Strawman argument alert.
Not remotely the same and both can be bad and good.
Good to peacefully protest, yes.
Bad to riot, yes.
The causes of both are different, as are the fixes. Similarly, those destroying property in a riot, should be found, charged, prosecuted for what they did - and hundreds were for the BLM protests.
How about the womens March on DC in 17. Why not use that in your strawman? Is it because that was an almost complete zero burger despite massive numbers of people?
Why not use the white nationalist rally in VA in whatever year that was17 or 18. That was a group of either epically radicalized people OR A-holes. Why not use their chants as a comparator?
Yeah, groups of people get together and protest. Sometimes, emotions are so hot, people lose it and do / say dumb stuff. And when that happens, they should have consequences.
This thread, is about whether the former president's lying lead to a bunch of Americans being radicalized enough to push reams of false info and to try and overturn an election where he lost. For many of those folks, their lives are ruined now with felony arrests, big fines, jail time, etc. Why were they there? If they had been told the truth - that the other candidate won - would they have gone to the capitol?
Now, I dont know if there is evidence to totally prove he did that (motivated people to disrupt gvmt) to the point of a conviction of some sort... But I know he sure didnt try to tamp it down, he sure lost in a way that most parents would find horrific if their child mirrored his behavior after a loss (actually, most would be mortified if their child acted like he did in debates in 16 as well)... And I know he factually fundraised to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars pitching a bogus idea that he'd had his re-election stolen.
Does that mean he is responsible for trying to stop the normal proceedings of the US government? Not sure. It feels very hard to argue his words, actions and rhetoric didnt heavily contribute.
So, I dont know what happens in the end. My hope is that the guy crawls into a hole at Mar a Lago and quietly golfs away the rest of his days excitedly hoping on his social media company's page to talk about super golf shots. He wont though.
I know mine is the unpopular opinion here, and that's ok.
Speaking of constitutional process.... didn't the house Dems already impeach Trump for inciting an insurrection??? Went to trial, Trump was acquitted. Case closed.
So then ask yourself, what is their goal now. Hmmmm?
Not to mention the “peaceful protests” in all the major cities in 2020 and everything about COVID.
Total lack of control nor concern with safety of US citizens by swinging the floodgates open at our borders.
Shut down petroleum exploration and production to go from a net exporter to a total cluster.
Induce massive inflation (really another tax) by dumping massive amounts of money in bills called Covid relief that sent more money overseas than to help Americans and impacting the global supply chain across the board.
Illegally give up US sovereignty and rights to the WHO.
Pull out of Afghanistan and leave behind civilians that had helped the US, US citizens, and billions of dollars worth of taxpayer funded equipment for the Afghans to sell to the Chinese to reverse engineer.
Push sexual deviancy on children in public schools all the way down to elementary school.
Push a fictitious narrative of the 1619 agenda to be taught in public schools.
Continue to support corrupt Marxist organizations like BLM and Antifa while harassing parents at school board meetings with the FBI and calling them terrorists.
Labeling US citizens who believe in the Constitution and rule of law as terrorists and threat to the country.
And on and on and on.
Any US citizen who supports the Democratic party in its systematic destruction of our once great nation is either an idiot or traitor. Possibly both.
"We will see if it’s enough for the DOJ to charge Trump. I doubt it but we will see.."
they already had "enough" to impeach him and all the "evidence" turned out to be lies. same shit different election.
Whatever we do, we have to get rid of the democratt, took just over a year and they have destroyed our country. Also put term limits out there, also an age limit. Sorry but in both parties we have a bunch of senile old farts making decisions. Shawn
"I may know a lttle more anout the event than you.
Crowd had heavy Woke, BLM, foreign intel, Antifa in it everywhere. "
And how do you know that? Were they wearing the wrong color armbands? Paisley face masks? Mis-matched camo? Cause frankly, 'Dano', you're about the LEAST objective, reliable, trusted 'observer' one could imagine.
"Scared to death of him. "
The only ones 'scared to death' of Trump are the Republicans who don't have the balls Liz Cheney does.
This lopsided show trail is all about one thing….trying to prop up sagging dem pol numbers for November.
If they weren't scared of a candidate Trump this wouldn't be happening.Biden bragged on tape about his quid pro quo but no talk of impeachment.Much less his scumbag son funneling payoffs to "the big guy".Schumer threatened insurrection at the SCOTUS and nothing will be done.
Adam Shief sitting on any committee concerning truth and justice is insane. The group that was with Trump had never reached the Capitol when the crowds were LET in. Schummer ,Shief , Nadler and Pelosi should be hung as traitors. Jan 6 will be nothing compared to what is coming if the government stays as corrupt as it is- for evil to exist good men do nothing.
“"inflation..." "oil shortage..." "Ray Epps..." "gas prices..." Deflect. Deflect. Deflect. Deflect.”
Dana, I don’t know about the rest of your points, but Ray Epps is a crucial player in this. Perhaps you can explain his motive and help us understand why he would be on tape calling for entry to the Capitol?
I’m curious as to whether you’d be so passive of potential evidence if it was YOU that was in the hot seat? I don’t support what happened, but I damn sure support using the proper investigation methods to find the truth and punish the perpetrators. The problem we have here, is that Trump was not the sole perpetrator. You know that as well as the rest of us do. Certain facts are being ignored to make it look one sided. Did you scream this loudly when someone almost killed Steve Scalise? I suppose you have evidence that would justify using a sniper to kill your political enemy.
So please satisfy my curiosity and tell me why Epps is not worthy of a simple questioning.
It gets really easy to brush off January 6th after watching the country go through chaos all summer long.
Then we fast forward to today and we have protesters outside judges houses. Which is by the way against the law and the powers that be don’t do anything about it.
Liz Cheney won’t even win her next election. Integrity ? Must have changed the meaning of the word.
At a friends fairly liberal office Thursday:
Coworker 1: "You guys going to watch the hearings?"
Coworker2: "I think they are over and Johnny Depp won"
Coworker1: "No the Jan 6th hearings"
Coworker2: "................. Doubt it"
"It’s amazing that so called “patriots” would trade any politician over country. Especially a con man."
We both with biden...
And right out of the gate Cheny lied about Trumps tweet that he had made in real time. She only read half of it. She omitted the last line where he said go home with love and in peace. Remember this day forever. If you lie at this show in your first words, we see this shit for what it is. Its all theater and will not change the sinking demonrat reality.
Without having both side of issue investigated it is just a stage show.
Chaney is face of the Never Trump Party. She will make a true ass of herself in 2024 when she tries to run for potus. Will look alot like C Booker, Harris, Beto , etc for Dems in 2020
For the record... this partisan show trial is for ONE purpose only. The Dems are trying to connect Trump in any way to 'an insurrection'... where they can pull a 14th Amendment gimmick and try to legally prevent Trump from being on the 2024 ballot at all.
That's all. The Dems are so afraid he will win, soooooo afraid that the people will choose Trump over Feeble Joe that they plan to take that option away. To deny you even the choice.
If you think the last election wasnt 'free and fair', imagine not even being permitted to choose!! And I don't think 'the people' are going to take kindly to that....
The LAST thing these DC swamp creatures want is a "free and fair" ANYTHING. The hate us, who we are, and what we stand for and will stop at NOTHING to crush America.
They keep whining about an "insurrection". Watch what you wish for libs and TDSers....you may actually get it!
"Not remotely the same and both can be bad and good.
BLM thanks you and wants you to know the check is in the mail.
You know what's really REALLY stupid !!! Is a country that tries to find a scapegoat for its problems.....
It's Trumps fault....it's Biden's fault...it's this it's that...one big soap opera with far to many people putting their faith and trust in a mere man.
Biden.....good grief people, look at the guy , his family, his morals, his historic habit of lying....and you put your trust in him?
Trump....I voted for him, did I think he was everything and a box of candy? NO, did I like his personality?No...But you know what I did like about him....he had the guts to tackle the clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, etc....head on.
This isn't about Trump...this is about a lot of Americans that are fed up to the point that they did something stupid like breach the capital...
Donald Trump, is not the reason I'm opposed to what is going on in this country, he didn't incite me to question an election won by Joe Biden when Joe Biden seemed to lack the support they claimed...I didn't need Trump for that, I could see it with my own eyes!!...nobody showed up at his rallies!....I saw far more trump signs than Biden..now that may have been different in philly, chicago, NY, los Angeles...etc...But we don't all live in Democratic citys....and yes we had questions....that were not answered to many satisfaction.....you don't ignore that many conservative Americans!
Donald Trump does not have anything to do with our desdain, watching things get swept under the rug, for the clintons, and Obama, our disdain for the rioting in the citys...the take over of Portland...the making hero's out of crimminals...Donald Trump is not the reason we hate what they are trying to teach our children etc...
It is time people quit putting their trust in a mere man, and vote for men that have and gain their wisdom from a much higher power than themselves...namely, "In God we trust"
Donald Trump....the scapegoat?...you can blame him for eveything, convict him and prosecute him.......But nothing will have changed....And this country will still be led by fools.
^^^^^“This isn't about Trump...this is about a lot of Americans that are fed up to the point that they did something stupid like breach the capital”
Shade, you nailed it! Where else but the capital and who else but the greasy politicians should feel the pain and fear.
They would prefer that you protest and burn your own building and cities. Letting the mere commoners live in fear. How dare anyone make them feel fear.
After all, the citizens exist to give politicians ruling power over us and provide them wealth and power. In their minds. Somehow the Jan 6th protesters got it backwards. Who works for whom.
The "hearings" should be about the black cop who murdered white, female, unarmed army vet Ashli Babitt and got away with it. If that had been downtown Seattle and a white cop shot and killed an unarmed black protester in cold blood, while storming the police precinct HQ, well........
Funny thing is, this will all be relived in the 118th Congress with more Biden/Hunter/Jan 6th investigations than you can imagine.
Joe will try to impose Martial Law and get his azz 25th out of Office with an impeachment to follow that. In the meantime we all getting screwed by Buck Fiden policy the Congress cant change.
Not lookin good for USA in the Near Term. During times like this Dem's like to start big Regional Wars. Be fore warned.
I was going to post something, but Shade Mt. covered it all. 2000 Mules.
For Liz and Adam to agree in principle only... to go against your own party when the only person killed was an unarmed "protester" is the most despicable thing imaginable.
They not in GOP and never were. Chaney, the Halliburton Kid
RINO means just what it says.
Shade hit the 12 ring!!!!
Shade, thanks for summing it up nicely.
How can ANYONE think a hearing is fair when there isn't some kind of rebuttal. The left's new favorite, Bill Barr said trump did not commit a crime.
I can't wait when Trump wins in 2024 by landslide. LOL
Prime-time hearings have not been done since Watergate if I remember correctly however the Dems have given the Repubs a great idea. The next prime-time hearings will be concerning a laptop and a current sitting president in the next 12-18 months.
There are voters who are either right or left no matter what. It’s the undecided people in the middle, who decide who wins or loses. I voted for Trump both times, but he has become a poison pill for people who want a republican in the White House.
If we want republican leadership it has to come from somebody else. Donald Trump has turned too many undecided voters the other way. Conservatives will not win if he is the candidate. He has become what Hillary was in 2016.
Tell that to all the Millions of new GOP voters since Buck Fiden took over.
Ryan: I' m ashamed every time I see Kansas on your posts.
More akin to the "Salem Witch Hunts"... smh.
We have a real problem in this country that's unsolvable.
Fully half the population falls below average intelligence. That's simply statistics. When I was in school, anything below 60% was a failing grade. If you use that criteria, 60% of the population has a failing level of intelligence.
The problem arises because in our democratic republic, the vote of everyone counts equally, no matter their level of intelligence.
So, were back to 2/3rds of a man?
So, we do what. If you live in a single wide you 1/3 of a vote of a two story home owner?
First vote i would take is the liberal elitist like yourself.
Meanwhile, at the hearings
President Trump was at a minimum incompetent the week of January 6. Likely he knowingly created responsibility for the attack on property and persons. Speaker Pelosi never rejected a prompt offering of assistance from President Trump as there was none offered promptly. Pentagon as well as other timelines prove the assertion Speaker Pelosi reject assistance of armed personnel is a lie but Mark Twain was fond of saying a lie is halfway around the world before the truth can even get its shoes put on. Move the goalposts on January 6 if want to so can focus on inflation or other issues but that does nothing to reduce President Trump's responsibility to lead and he failed the week of January 6. That is the issue before the House and deserves to be heard. The GOP abdicated its available role in the hearings and that is a failure of their leadership to understand how law-abiding citizens want nothing to do with supporting the damage and injuries that took place. Rebuild the gallows and start stringing up those that did the damage. They were not patriots nor roles models. They were hooligans dressed up for CosPlay. Time to feel the wrath for those actions. As for the LEO that shot the woman, saves some time and rope.
The fact that there is no rebuttal to the testimony is proof they have no case. Have you ever heard Barr talk that much while in DOJ? He was singing more than the wren outside my window, I mean he had the floor and chirped away... chirp, chirp, chirp.
20 million people watched the hearings!!!!
But a closer look tells us this:
"ABC News, a former president of which produced Thursday’s show trial, drew 4.8 million viewers. NBC and CBS each pulled just more than three million. The legacy networks, then, pulled about 11 million viewers combined Thursday night. According to AdWeek’s latest analysis of weekly television news ratings for the week of May 30, the broadcast networks’ evening programs collectively averaged nearly 18 million viewers, 7 million more than tuned into Thursday night’s Democrat programming."
Dano. I'm confused. I made a non-partisan statement of fact. I made no connection between those facts and a person's economic status, nor their party affiliation, and stated up front that there was no "fix" for it. But it might be telling that you took it that way.
“They were not patriots nor roles models. They were hooligans dressed up for CosPlay. Time to feel the wrath for those actions. As for the LEO that shot the woman, saves some time and rope.”
If you support this circus at this point, without the ability to hear both sides and allow all evidence, then it’s likely that you are as dishonest and lacking of moral integrity as the goons currently in office.
What happened to ‘innocent until proven guilty”… due process? Most of you remember how the American legal system USED to work… right? Again, I don’t support the events of Jan 6. But I support the legal process by which we handle these types of things. I have no respect for people that support public lynchings without the ability to defend themselves.
Like I’ve said before; if it was your ass in the hot seat, you’d be screaming bloody murder to get your fair trial.
This whole "Jan. 6th hearing" is just a major attempt to distract voters from what's going on in real time around them. Only 19 million tuned in during prime time on many channels, but yet only 19 million. Thankfully enough voters see this as a distraction and nothing more. Stop looking and living in the past and actually start addressing the real problems this nation is experiencing right now. Good lord people, don't fall for what the Dems. are dishing out. It's nothing but an attempt to destroy Trump because he is an outsider and those in power are still scared of him and the chance that he may run again. At this point, I hope he does and I hope he wins. This country needs an outsider in the club to put fear in the power hungry suckers.
My wife watched and came in and told me she never thought the USA would would be like Venezuela which is where she is from. She said watching the hearings was just like watching Hugo Chavez. Thankfully she told me most of the American people know that it is a sham. On good thing to hopefully come from the hearings is when the progressives lose big maybe the Dems will speak up forcefully against the rioting that will hopefully not happen.
Just what was said “nobody watched”that fake hollywood trial.
I would say they were all in Kali who watched but lots have fleed to Red States now.
Its solvable just throw bums out of office. Its always Sanders types like AOC who would want the Communist Social Credit Score! So they can limit ones ability to survive, or become active in local Gvt. Just what China has. Is that what you suggest we should do here so you can simply cancel anyone out?
That left bull have a forked brow tine? !!!!!!
Where are the videos? You're telling me there aren't dozens of not hundreds of security videos? Bullshlit
Just another pussie not doing his JOB. Time for him to hit the bricks or face charges for lying to grand Jury.
"My wife watched and came in and told me she never thought the USA would would be like Venezuela which is where she is from."
That is ironic. I was neck deep in a work project when 1/6/21 happened and a Trump-disliking buddy texted me something obtuse about what was goings on at the capital. My response - "Did we must become Venezuela?" I didn't really mean Venezuela per se, but rather inquiring whether some of our citizens acted in a manner that was more expected of a 3rd world country than the US. Funny thing, I was right.
On a parallel note, there is a voting commission in Otero Country, NM that won't certify a recent election due to their belief that they cannot trust the result from Dominion Voting Machines. They bought the lies too apparently. No threat to democracy some say....
"Dano. I'm confused. I made a non-partisan statement of fact. I made no connection between those facts and a person's economic status, nor their party affiliation, and stated up front that there was no "fix" for it. But it might be telling that you took it that way."
That's just the predictable knee jerk response from some of the crew.
Voted for Trump twice but question anything he ever said or did? You are obviously a liberal
Use words, examples, or analogies they don't understand? You are obviously a liberal
"I didn't really mean Venezuela per se, but rather inquiring whether some of our citizens acted in a manner that was more expected of a 3rd world country than the US. Funny thing, I was right."
Yes you were! And the citizens you're talking about are the POLITICIANS who are acting EXACTLY like 3rd world Commie sh*t bags bent on taking and controlling power over us by ANY means possible. That's why they want to disarm us. Being a tyrant is FAR easier when you're not being shot it.
Just ask Venezuela.
Matt, quick question, are the rioters being punished fairly or do you think there is a political motive to their punishment? Solitary confinement, held without bail for simple tresspassing charges. I'm all for throwing the book at the ones that fought with capitol police. And yes, I thought when i saw the BLM riots night after night and the police and democrat mayors did nothing we were living in a third world country.
Everyone should at least watch the documentary, before commenting.
I know that I will get educated by all of you constitutional scholars on here. Forgive me if I am wrong , but I thought that the constitution guarantees every citizen due process. Which, much to the liberals surprise, is includes the right to defend oneself, the right to call witnesses, the right to cross-examine witnesses - all governed by the rules of evidence. The GOP did not get to name its participants on the committee. The two republicans are Trump haters. If Pelosie was not offered troops, why doesn’t she testify under oath to that fact??? This is just more of the Mueller hearing bs. More democrat lawyers deciding who gets deposed and what evidence gets presented. No opportunity to counter any of it. I get that many of you libs absolutely despise Trump , but you would cry like a baby if you were on trial under similar rules. I am tired hearing that Jan 6 is the biggest risk to our democracy. No, the bastardization of our justice system that we are witnessing with this hearing is a much larger risk.
MadTrapper, this is an investigative hearing, NOT a trial. If/when the findings are sent up for prosecution, then Trump will have the right to defend.
"The GOP did not get to name its participants on the committee." The GOP largely refused to participate. "The two republicans are Trump haters." The Trump lovers refused to participate.
Doesn't/wouldn't change the testimony being presented. Trump is being shown for the egomaniacal crybaby some of us - not just the liberals - have seen him for all along. But keep right on denying, deflecting and distracting (yourselves.)
Old timer. Relax take a deep breath. The committee is from the Gvt and they are here to help!
So, you know anit chit gonna happen but a huge waste $.
Three or four of that committee will be gone in a few moths so gear not Bowlibs.
Committee will have wrapped well before November. Trump will be too busy consulting his *sober* lawyers (not Stewed Rudy!) to shill for his butt-licking favorites.
PS don't be surprised when Rudy finds himself under the bus wheels and starts fingering Trump ;-)
Old timer you may want to take the mad hatter meds.
In Nov you either burned out of in West Warren buy Antifa or gettin yourself a beer with Liz Warren in the Woke State Crying Center. IE; theGarden for all ya all! You’ll need it. You can get a Bowlib box seat possibly.;)
Dano, Antifa could no easier find this little town than Liz could ;-)
Dana you come on hear wanting us to hate Trump. If Trump is so bad, why not present ALL the evidence under trial conditions and let the American people decide. Presenting a one-sided case will not convince anybody. Their hearing process has NO credibility. Sorry.
Im with ya Trap. Dana’s your bowlib!
Hey Dana let’s get the record straight. The GOP refused to participate after the GOP named two participants and pelosie through them off. Pelosie then named two known Trump haters. Just like the Mueller hearing. At that point it was evident to everyone that the purpose of this hearing was not to get the facts and the truth out for the American people to decide. No its one and only purpose was to hang Trump. And Trump haters like you are ok with the process. No credibility.
The libs see Trump the same way we see Hillary. They just want to see him burn…constitutional due process be damned. Now I know why I don’t associate with people that voted for China Joe. They have no integrity, and no respect for those around them. It’s amazing what they’re willing to do to someone that they’re scared to death of.
70, the only people 'scared to death' of Trump are GOP wannabe pols who think they need his blessing to get elected. THEY 'have no integrity'. I WAS sacred of him when he had actual power. Now I plan to do my level damnedest to make sure he never gets it again. This is one area where the Dems are spot on.
Bowlibs cried Trump got two deferments and a waiver from service.
They never told you China Joe got 5 and a fake waiver without any medical procedure!!!!
Phuk the Woke Hill Gang. Chitbaggers one and all.
Dana, Just face it bro…you’re an unscrupulous fraud! Lol!
Dano, deferments are the least of it. Trump systematically fired any advisor who disagreed with him. Always desperate to be the smartest guy in the room. You don't do that by firing the best and brightest, you *listen* to them. Egomaniacal crybaby has no damn business in charge of anything.
PD where's his tax returns? ;-)
You have a point there. Biden is definitely NOT the smartest guy in the room. Any room! BTW, publicly releasing your tax returns is voluntary, even for a president.
The sad thing is that if Joe Biden acted like the moderate he pretended to be his approval rating would be probably 50%. But he chose to go all in with the progressives like Dana and drove the country to ruin in less than two years.
"the progressives like Dana"
See, that's where Trumpers show their mettle - "anyone who opposes Trumpo is a liberal pinko commie progressive socialist democrat liberal!"
As if the very idea that someone can hold conservative views and dislike Trump is unthinkable!
Didn't Biden describe his son Hunter as the smartest guy he knew?!?!? LOL
My favorite part of this is that there are people out there that think that something will actually come of these hearings. The only thing they will do is convince even more people that didn't already know, that the left and the Republican establishment is scared to death of Trump
In my experience when someone you don't agree with on something starts calling you names instead of intelligent reasoning, you've won the argument.
Bowlib Alert. Last Train for Woke Hill Leaves BS today
A legit hearing tries to find the truth....This is a witch hunt.
We have something like 275 riots causing billions in damages....but this one they have a hearing on? Yes, if you destroyed property- prosecute...just like they should have done in these BLM incited riots and held those folks accountable. A friends business was destroyed in Ferguson and Seattle. Protestors destroyed whole city blocks in Minneapolis, Ferguson and Seattle.
J6 has hundreds of hours of video which is mostly peaceful...but the committee only shows the 5 minutes of window breaking. A fair assessment?
There were many rabble rousers dressed as Trumpers that were starting trouble- no mention.
Accusing Loudermilk (GOP) of Reconnaissance? Capital police shot down that wild accusation, a total fabrication.......
The verdict; Liberal Dems are on putting on a pretty disgusting display of partisan politics...
I do blame Trump for one thing. He turned in Christopher Wrays name to be the FBI director. Boy has that one bit us all in the A$$.
Ziek. That was an old wives tale. It actually just means someone wants to call someone a name
If it was true no Lib could ever argue anything
See, that's where Trumpers show their mettle - "anyone who opposes Trumpo is a liberal pinko commie progressive socialist democrat liberal!"
Let me fix that for you.
Anyone that wishes to forego the proper legal avenues to achieve their goal, is a liberal pinko commie progressive socialist democrat liberal!"
It doesn’t matter if it’s Trump, Kyle Rittenhouse, DUI Pelosi or Dana C. Due process is what this country currently has to at least resemble fairness in handing down a sentence.
In another thread, you said, “The only legitimate government is one that protects the rights of the individual.”
Really? Are you truly interested in protecting the rights of the individual? So tell us, which individual is in need of protection in this case? And, is our “legitimate” government currently providing protection of those rights to the accused?
Negative ghost rider, the pattern is full. Therefore I guess that also makes you a liar.
Anyone who is still defending what Trump tried to do on, and leading up to, Jan. 6 is an idiot. If the Vice President really had the power to unilaterally elect the President, Gore as VP should have just declared himself the new President. And the we can just forego the next election, and let the current VP declare who will be the next President.
These proceedings, and hopefully subsequent legal charges, are vitally important. Trump has unequivocally demonstrated his unsuitability to be elected to anything. It can be compellingly argued that he re-made the Republican Party in his image. Therefore, it has been corrupted.
I would love to see Trump on the stand trying to defend his actions. I wonder why that hasn't happened? Could it be Trumpublican obstructionism?
We got us a blueberry snaggle tooth pineapple express Bowlib.
Hang on to your hate for 45, it maybe the only thing that lets you survive The Lost Years of Buck Fiden!
Beendare. Trying to equate riots (civil unrest) to attempting to subvert the most sacred part of our Democracy demonstrates either a lack of intelligence or a deliberate attempt to divert attention from a far greater peril.
One of you Constitution loving "Patriots" please explain how you can still support a President that tried to subvert the Constitution at it's very core?
“One of you Constitution loving "Patriots" please explain how you can still support a President that tried to subvert the Constitution at it's very core?”
Nothing has been proven yet. What is it you guys don’t understand about our justice system? Vigilante justice is NOT due process.
Same as you Ziek giving a pass to Obama, Hillary, all those trying to subvert a sitting President with countless BS and fake impeachments and of course that silly Russian fallback shit that so many Dumbass Dems still believe.
Not only "not proven"... but Trump was formally impeached, tried, and acquitted for the charge of inciting an insurrection on Jan 6th.
It done, over. The subsequent Jan 6th biased hearings without cross examination or adequate bi-partisan rebuttal are an absolute joke.
But keep pushing. Push to the point where the persecution of political opposition and free speech is imposed by armed agents of the government... and see where that leaves the country.
I love it how all these TDS paranoids go on and on about pure BULLSH*T, and yet NOT ONE F***ING WORD about Ashli Babbit's murder.
But then again, it just shows who and what they really are.
Either way you look not one of the 18-20 rejects who were on the stage in 2020 for Dems has a chance to secure a Dem Primary much less a seat in Oval in 2024.
I did not honestly think Obiden could make one year without either blow a gusher are getting tossed under the clown bus by his Woke Pranksters.
Let see what Jan 2023 brings in the 118th Congress. Will he flip and pull a Slick Wille to secure his place in history and work with a GOP House or will he tap and be the next Jimi Peanut? Or play the blame game for stagnation and work an angle for Dems in 2024. either way its gonna be a long two years and you'll get sick of Hunter and Joe investigations, Ukraine Impeachment? Phone call Impeachment. Will buy stock in corn. . . . .Popcorn!
If we still have unverified mail in voting it'll just keep going like it is. It's the ONLY way these rotten bastids can stay in power and continue to strip us of our God given rights. And if we LET them continue to cornhole us, then we deserve it.
Judging from today's testimony, Mike Pence is the unlikeliest hero since Bilbo Baggins. Still betting on the dragon...
He's a political a-hole and just MORE proof that career politicians are the LAST type of person we should have as POTUS!!!
“ One of you Constitution loving "Patriots" please explain how you can still support a President that tried to subvert the Constitution at it's very core?”
This coming from someone who supported the Dems that tried to overthrow a sitting president!
Libs were complicit and they never held their party accountable and that’s the reason that we have the current turd setting in the Oval Office!
All want Trump’s head to ease their conscience.
Funny, Trump loved Pence until he decided to uphold the Constitution.
Trump lawyers were seeking pardons. Why? Unless they _knew_ that what they were doing was illegal? Making more popcorn.
Truth hurt? That 'political a-hole' saved the United States from a Trump putsch. Still not a fan but the US owes him, big time.
Woodswalker I would add that it is completely biased and one-sided…..
Yes bullshit. If you watched Pences lawyer in testimony. Pence considered not certifying the election.
They convinced him that if he did not there would a Civil War. So, he did. Dont think they did not weigh the options.
He did right thing it that situation. Not sure if it happened again the same out outcome would occur however.
Well, Pence is still a worm. But I distinctly remember back in '16 that a certain poster predicted that he'd be POTUS from '24-'32. Who knows, might even be right.
Huh?, theres 50 million folks in Gop that will never vote for him. Thats over.
To bad but thats how it played out.
Dem’s are truly phukd. They need a new middle of road guy/gal and there is only Tulsi and DNC will never let her win out. I say that in passing cuz she is very liberal from Oahu. She just sounds right of these loony freaks like Corey Bush, Bernii, and nut jobs like Clobucher, Booker, Buttigege, Warren etc.
"Huh?, theres 50 million folks in Gop that will never vote for him. Thats over. "
And there may be 51 million Dems who would ;-) Add in the indies and he might have a shot. Probably won't primary well, with Trump sniping at him - from Leavenworth.
You dont have 51 million legal voters .
So? No problem for Democrats. Just make them up as you go along. Stop the vote count in areas that you're behind in and then "create/find" the votes you need to win and all's good!
You know I'm surprised the Democrats continue to make mistakes and ignore the facts. The American people could care less about these hearings, only the far left idiots care. This is just like when the Republicans impeached clinton and then kept attacking him on that. Policy is what matter and the Dems are stuck on stupid! Their policies are destroying America and the American people are noticing. Let's hope the establishment Republicans don't screw it up too.
Many of you think Trump's lie about winning the election is true, and you call Dem's stupid?
"Stop the vote count in areas that you're behind in and then "create/find" the votes you need to win and all's good! "
I seem to recall a certain candidate for re-election insisting that state officials find him several thousand votes...
“Many of you think Trump's lie about winning the election is true, and you call Dem's stupid?”
What do you legal geniuses make of the border guards being placed in time-out for “strapping" illegal aliens?
You want an example of stupid? Read my link and tell us where the justification of this falls. Liberals see horses as nothing but methane makers. Obviously there is no one in the Dem. party that knows anything about horsemanship. Either that, or they ignored the facts in an effort to thwart the BP from doing their jobs.
So yeah, I call them stupid. But of course, I’m sure you have a perfectly good explanation for this particular act of stupidity.
Ziek calling people idiots and stupid after his own post stating that people who resort to name calling have already lost the argument……priceless.
Ron. LMAO. You beat me to it!
Anyone that participated in getting this shit show Biden Administration elected has zero room for calling anyone stupid.
"You dont have 51 million legal voters .
LMAO! Mybe that's what they're telling you on Faux and Altright.com but it just ain't so.
The Q baby.
If not 45 there are plenty of great folks ready for 2024.
I like Cruz & Desantis ticket of plenty good folks to choose from.
Unlike the Socialist party. Ran 20 turds and none will make grade in 24.
Imagine my surprise when I see a CNN story about J6. Not only does it admit that they’re trying to pump up the bogus charges, but they say don’t know if they can actually hold Trump accountable.
Lol! I don’t know…is it stupid to claim that someone blatantly broke the law, and then turn around and say you may not be able to hold him accountable? Uh…in other words, he did nothing wrong, but we’re trying to set him up so we can take him down!
Dana, you better get on the phone with the White House. You might just end up with Trump as YOUR president in 2024. If that happens, I’ll be happy to pay for your MAGA ball cap!
Move along now. There’s no stupidity here!
Danac forget that tactic. If anyone was going to use the law for anything Garland would have already arrested the morons protesting in front of the Supreme Court Justices houses
In addition so far the kangaroo court has not prove any of your wish list. A better case probably could be made right now against Biden and his administration trying to destroy this country with his policies
So you’re reminding us of the definition of seditious conspiracy?
Do you remember what the term ‘due process’ means?
From Wikipedia: “Due process developed from clause 39 of Magna Carta in England. Reference to due process first appeared in a statutory rendition of clause 39 in 1354 thus: "No man of what state or condition he be, shall be put out of his lands or tenements nor taken, nor disinherited, nor put to death, without he be brought to answer by due process of law." When English and American law gradually diverged, due process was not upheld in England but became incorporated in the US Constitution.”
It means ya gotta have damning proof. and your side just admitted that they don’t. A great example of damning proof would be…oh I don’t know…say maybe Hunters laptop!
70, again, why was Trump's lawyer looking for a pardon if HE didn't realize a crime was being committed?
It only takes TWO to form conspiracy. Trump and *one* other, a and it looks like Trump, Easton and Rudy are in on it. Any odds on which of them will roll on the other?
PS just because charges have not been filed YET doesn't mean they're not forthcoming. Garland has shown himself to be methodical, he'll wait until he has *all* the testimony.
Garland has shown himself to be a weak political hack
I know you are in love with this administration but for gods. Sake pull your head out
Trumps not going to jail. Guilt or innocence aside, that's not how things work.
They can't do anything to Trump based on the partisan J6 committee. Trump and his legal team would have to be given the right to challenge and cross examine ALL of those allegations before there could ever be a legal conclusion.
Something like the impeachment trial which already happened. Trump should start by citing double-jeopardy protections. LOL
Mittens did a great job not bringing Obummer’s pick of Garland for Scotus.
That guy was everything the Gop said he was. A large radical jurist.
Good job Mittens.
In the mid 90's when slick willy was pres and Janet Reno was At Gen. The background check was started, with the help of the NRA. At that time Reno wanted the names and ser. numbers to be permanant record. In other register that firearm forever like Hitler took advantage of. She went judge shopping to find one that would agree with her plan and she found one, judge Garland who is now our attorney gen. Kinda scary where these kinda folks are right now. Registration leads to confiscation.
Water levels are rising, but it it not due to climate change. It is due to most gun owners in America having lost all of their firearms in boating accidents!
Water levels are rising, but it it not due to climate change. It is due to most gun owners in America having lost all of their firearms in boating accidents!
"...partisan J6 committee."
It is partisan. So far all the witnesses that have testified are Republicans. ;-)
So when do we see Colberts staffers thrown in jail, hogtied, and cancelled into non-existence, for breaching Capitol security measures? I trust it will be part of the new and improved precedent that the left has set for punishing Capitol trespass offenders?
How about you Dana C…what should we do with those pesky miscreants?
Yes, people will say anything to stay out of jail, and most of this dog an pony show is hearsay and taken out of context... funny how Watergate and Jan. 6 are the only attacks on our constitution... not one Democrat President had any scandals... oh maybe slick Willy and that cigar DNA.
Had another insurrection in Capitol.
Libtards with Colbert Show.
Lock em up for a year or two!
I hear the puppet had a hand it.
"...funny how Watergate and Jan. 6 are the only attacks on our constitution... not one Democrat President had any scandals..."
There you go; equating a scandal with an attack on the very fabric of our Republic. And there is nothing funny about it. The main difference between Watergate and Trump's attempt, is the character of the majority of the "Republican" Party.
How about the dems and media attempting to bring down a duly elected President for his entire four year term...wouldn't this qualify as an attack on democracy?
There you go attacking and demonizing people who don't share your view... there were many bad actors at the capitol a potpourri of idiots you could say. I did not equate anything, you took it upon yourself to assume I did... chill.
“ The main difference between Watergate and Trump's attempt, is the character of the majority of the "Republican" Party.”
The character of the Democratic Party is on display every day and the Dem supporters are all in!
Please don’t give anymore lessons on character. Your conversation is enough to determine yours.
P.S. Silence is compliance…
Yall never disapoint.
Been busy killing tuna fish & the first time in a while on here & this thread is humorous as hell.
Perhaps im loosing my mind but I'm most certain that I watched Trump "live" on TV "suggest" to the crowd to go to the capital & (QUOTE) fight like hell !!!
Then later in the day I watched again "live" on TV the trumpers, patriots, rad righters & numerous other groups. Blow their wad like a 16 year old in his first puss !!!
To some it was meaningless & to others extremely significant Myself personally just wish Trump could have kept his big mouth shut.
Irregardless that day is undeniably a giant poop stain on the whitey tideys of this country.
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Like clockwork, Timex chimes in. ;0]
“Yall never disapoint. Been busy killing tuna fish & the first time in a while on here & this thread is humorous as hell.”
One thing is for sure. If I wasn’t working, and I was out fishing or hunting, I wouldn’t be wasting time here!!!
Dem never had a scandal?
You must be smokin some left handed chit.
Where do I start?
Wait till Jan where the Trials Start!
Timex you left out his words "peacefully protest"
Even Fox News has better reporting than this thread ;-)
Besides Liberals and their assorted minions is anybody watching these morons conduct this witch hunt?
Sure, Congress is collecting the data for the Impeachments of Gvt employees and elected Dems.
Dont have to worry about the Rino’s! They impeached themselves with their constituents.
Wasn’t a Hillary Democrat when she and her counterparts tried an unsuccessful attempt to overthrow a duly elected president in plain sight of the American people and the Dems cheered in support!
If you are still riding with Biden go on and crawl out of your hole and get some sunshine. The light may kill the fungus amongst us that is deteriorating your political brain cells!
Never forget the illicit Strzok/Paige/McCabe "insurance policy"....
Rocky, I suppose it was the Democrats who impeached Bill Clinton for getting a piece in the closet?
But you keep right on deflecting and distracting this conversation away from Trump and his minions attempting a baseless illegal usurpation of power.
How many poor bastards did Trump and Co. (please, sir, can I have a pardon?) try to drag into their silly-arse, illegal, unConstitutional scheme?
Not as many as Hillary drug into hers with the help of course but Obama and slow Joe
But we will never know on each one
The new Trials in 2023 will be a hit for the Lamestream media ratings.
RK, maybe, but we WILL know exactly how many people Trump dragged into his stupid world of denial. Even when they KNEW it was a bullshite plan they went along. The GOP is f*ed until they stop fearing this windbag.
And yeah, 'Dano', they may get a few seats this fall, won't do them any good in the long run, just put off the day of reckoning a bit. Sad, the country could use a *good* party.
Yer a dyed in wool Libtard, if you think anything in this country is better now than under 45.
Lyft those two fleshy masses that are cover your eyes up.
Yer a bubble boy live in Boston suburb. Like living in Woodland Hills of LA.
Smell the coffee Libtart. You got about a month or so before the SSS (Soros Snuff Squads) hit Riot Season with a bang.
When Dobbs and 2A decisions hit the street it gonna be primetime for crimetime and the SSS and Antifa.
"Libtard" - That all you got, 'Dano' ? Time was you could do better than silly 7th grade personal attacks. And 'suburb of Boston'? I ain't even in a suburb of Worcester ;-)
The only thing better about Biden is that we're taking time to lay out the entire case against Trump. Sedition. Treason. Goodbye Maralargo, hello Leavenworth.
Now, who ya running in '24?
Anyone tuning into this kangaroo courts proceedings is inadvertently lending them credence.
In the mean time…some of the clowns supporting this circus don’t believe Trump will even be charged. Still no damning evidence of his involvement!! Lol! But ya gotta agree, it’s the most important thing this country needs to worry about!!!
Remember those words.
How is a one-sided persecution, without legal defense and without cross examination, considered "a case" at all ???
Dems just preaching to their own choir, and singing the same old tune...
Worm has turned Old timer. Day of the Lib monkeys got shot on the wall.
Soccer Moms tried it and said phuk it.
They must be sharper than you. That prolly not to very hard.
Least you’ll have something to bitch about when yer medicare and SS dries up in a few years.
Get yer Means tested SNAP EBT card. You prolly receive 15$ a month. Goodbye golden years.
Go Buck Fiden
“Filing criminal charges against Trump in connection with his efforts to overturn the election “will very likely spark civil unrest, and maybe even civil war,” said Barbara McQuade, an NBC legal analyst and a former U.S. attorney.”
One can only hope!!! lol!
Shoots, thats a head fake.
The Soros Snuff Squads are waiting currently for the Dobbs case to hit the street.
These SSS already been paid and are waiting for green light! Riot Season almost here.
One more week max and back to our communist brethren again hit the streets Must be a proud moment for those that align with these democrats
The recap on national news of what happened in the “trial” each day is priceless
The whining, crying and outrage is incredible. People will do a lot to get out of trouble ??
It now looks like Adam Shiff ? Let the Cobert bunch into the Capital.
Impossible to stop the madness but someone should try. On both sides
If anyone thinks these "hearings" are honest and legitimate, then you've got your head so far up your *** that you're peering out your navel.
Ziek the biggest threat to our democracy are these one-sided hearings. No due process. Give me five minutes of cross examination of each witness. What are you afraid of??? Maybe the truth??
The Republicans in GA that testified to the immense pressure they were put under to change the outcome, are they part of the conspiracy also?
I bet they had a dilemma down in Fulton County!!
The will of a free election was stolen in middle of night.
Why you think they revamped State election laws after that chit.
RatPhuks down there in GA politics. Just look at the turd who somehow won a Senate Seat?! He about to het booted forever!
Hab, I respect your thoughts and opinions, I believe you are sincere... the 87 million that voted for this administration own this mess. Trump was asking for votes he believed were out there, he did not demand to create votes... if I thought for one moment Trump is corrupt I would support Bernie.
All the bleating about 'due process' and 'cross examination' is irrelevant deflection. This is not a trial, it is an investigative hearing. If/when the committee refers it to the Justice Dept. with a recommendation that criminal charges be made, *then* those being investigated will have their 'day in court'.
“All the bleating about 'due process' and 'cross examination' is irrelevant deflection.”
No, the deflection lies within the need to dupe the largest part of the left-wing-flock into believing the J6 charade. They don’t care about justice, due process, or integrity. They’re scared to death to see Trump run again, because they know he’ll win!!! After all, why would anyone want a president that actually gives a shit about what America was built on and stands tall on?!
If I'm a deplorable that bleats for due process count me in.
Thanks. I know Trump is corrupt, yet I still voted for him, twice.
Just me maybe, but I don’t believe people would put up with their lives being threatened to cover for a lie. Just doesn’t make rational sense. And I don’t believe Trump had any evidence of stolen votes, I am more inclined to believe his narcissistic ego is the only thing that prevents him from seeing he lost.
What’s the best way forward. I guess that depends on your end goal. I am starting to believe some/many are pushing the stolen election BS in hopes of starting another Revolution/Civil War. I am not one of those, and I would never vote for Bernie, he is a Marxist. I will take a corrupt capitalist over that:-)
Whew! For a minute there H4W I thought you had gone over to the dark side
“I will take a corrupt capitalist over that”. So sad and so true
Just don’t get to where Danac is. Trying to convince everybody he is a conservative independent when in reality he is as blue as any Sapphire that ever came out of India
Yea, I mentioned Burnie for shock value, we were never in danger with President Trump as we are with crash test dummy, no matter what the the MSN reports...you voted twice because you of sound mind and know what's best, all be it you held your nose is another matter. Life was easier with President Trump, but haters gonna hate, that's life. Good to see you posting again.
Hiding cuz he voted for mush head. When you live and play in the Progressive jungle of Taxachssetts you never know what is reality outside that bubble.
Remember yankees believe if you dont have a Boston or their accent your a dumbphuk.
Product of years of Woke where that place have us turds like Warren, Kerry, Romney ….. shall i continue?
Mass care and Obummer care in Mass. Why state and property taxes are out the whaazoo. Place suks trust me i know. Favorite sport of neighbors up there is Civil Law Suits. Highest in nation per capita.
Yes, Trump is narcissistic to the nth degree. I might loathe the person, but loved the results and accomplishments. He was not always right, who is, but what he did was doing for the USA and we the people. Not for the power establishment, the Party, or the globalist cabal. There is no doubt there was cheating, there is in every major election. The question is was there enough to throw the election. The Democrat Socialist Party did not have the sophistication to do it. They do have contacts with operatives who do. One thing is for sure, ballot harvesting should be outlawed. Drop boxes and curb side voting should go away. Full transparency at all election halls. 2000 mules is indeed a good watch. If you buy even a quarter of it, there is much to worry about. Remember, the hildabeast still believes she won in 2016 and never acknowledged Trump as winner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tQ5uLtA8QQ The link is an interview with Dinesh
As far as the hearings go they are nothing but a political sham. Jon Turley, a very well respected Constitutional attorney, has said as much. He said you might, just maybe, be able to prove Trump is a bad person or did a bad thing. But nothing illegal, and the omitting of evidence that would hurt their bias clearly obstruction. Their goals are very clear.
" I know Trump is corrupt, yet I still voted for him, twice. "
I guess I'm one of the deplorable too. As to the hearings (that is what HFH originally posted), it's not about the truth. After all Adam Schiff is in charge. Isn't that the same guy that continually lied about Russiagate-I've seen supporting evidence Schiff when there wasn't a shred of it? That guy? This is all about Trump running again in 2024. His mean tweets don't seem so bad now, and they certainly were not as bad as what is going on now. The entire hearing is nothing but a political farce. As long as a "mostly peaceful" riot occurs elsewhere, it's seemingly ok with the politicians. I did note that the J6 riot was "mostly peaceful" judged by the previous standard-except for that little incident where a police officer shot and killed an unarmed citizen. Wait, he was on the other side from us deplorables. Whatever became of that guy (sarcasm intended).
You have not lived around NYC as much of the people here. He has a pretty typical NY Yankee fan personality for the most part. You deal with it or you don't.
If you let personality into you 401K plan like now, hows that working for you? Middle of the Road Joebama has really taken us back to . . . .?? early Obummer years. But, but, but Mitt Romney and John McCain had good personalities . . . . . . They’re how we ended up with Obummer and Obummercare and race division and the Squad. Great going Rino's.
I retired from a large toy company that made wooden toys in NY... I was hired by a manager that was loathed by 95 percent of its employees, he had a Trump like personality and was feared by his staff... I challenged him when I thought reasonable, he respected that, but still reprimanded me in front of said staff. That man was the boss and took alot of punches , he maintained a huge campus and had many employees... at the time I disliked him but he paid me a good salary, benefits, and pension which I now enjoy. He never asked anything illegal of his employees, just do what I ask... no problems. My point... to this day most remaining employees say those were the good ole days.
"he is as blue as any Sapphire that ever came out of India"
Tell ya what - run a candidate who doesn't slime everything they touch and I'll happily vote GOP again. Otherwise I'll spend voting day on stand.
One would prefer a (on the surface) squeaky clean character such as Romney, a stinking liberal and power establishment pawn, to a President Trump? When Romney would continue the sell out of this country to the globalist cabal (but be squeaky clean!) and Trump would work only for we the people and the USA. Right or wrong, trying to do what's right for the USA.
So, you'd be happy with DeSantis, Pompeo, or Cotton?
Pompeo would suit me fine.
But yeah, I'd prefer Satan's cross-eyed lesbian sister to Trump. Too bad she's slated to be the next Governor here ;-)
Trump, for all his warts and there are many, is the best president this nation has had in the modern era. Loved Reagan too for the times, and he was a true statesman and gentleman, but he was beholden to the Party and the established power structure. That, is a negative. The ACU rated Trump clearly more conservative than Reagan on issues, and issues are what matters. How one parts their hair matters little in the end. Obama had promised us a "fundamental change" and hilda was supposed to finish the job. Trump put a great big hammer to their gearing. What we're experiencing in this country right now, from A-Z, is that change. Not from applesauce for brains creepy Joe, from the cabal who is actually running things.
^^^^ Axel your on it dog gone it.
Wouldnt listen to any turd burgler from Mass! Where Romney got turdified
It's a choice between two in the general. Never in my voting life have I liked either enough to be a big supporter. Every time in my voting life I have disliked one enough to vote for the better one. I use my little vote to send a message in primaries but once it's the Superbowl, there are only two in the game. Unlike sports, the outcome has a huge effect the country and my life so I can't just tune out.
Reply " I know Trump is corrupt, yet I still voted for him, twice. " 'Nuff said.
What it says is the alternative is worse for our country (now proven), and at a minimum at least as corrupt.
Dana, I see Hillary and the DNC in the same light as what the left criticizes trump for with regards to Jan6th…trying to prevent the will of the people.
I have in good faith tried to be fair, but any reasonable analysis of Hunter and Joe has to at a minimum question if their behavior was treasonous with regards to foreign income they received, but did not earn.
I get we disagree, I am ok with that.
I wish this guy would run
"...foreign income they received, but did not earn."
My concern is they did earn it and what "earning" it entailed.
Not to mention suppressing what they earned and how they earned it.... claiming the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation.... with corrupt deep state Intel agents creating that lie, and leftwing news pushing that lie, and leftwing tech giants hiding the truth about the laptop.
Polling has shown that if Dems knew the truth about the Hunter laptop, some 3 - 6% wouldn't have voted for Biden. Likely changing the election outcome.
But yeah, Trump sold crappy Trump branded water.
Wating on the Jan 6th 2023 Hearings to start on Huter and Buck.
deflection. typical. "Hillary! Obama! Laptop!"
The topic is still Donald Trump. Sorry. Today was 'interesting'.
Deflection…lol! The pro abortion folks tried the same stupidity in AZ. But when called out on it, the libs just say it’s an attempted deflection from Jan 6. Lol! You can’t make this stuff up. Yup, liberals are definitely stupid!!!!
Deflection. Typical. "Abortion!"
The topic is still Donald Trump. Sorry. Today was 'interesting'.
Secret Service does not discuss what happened in limo to aides or staff... hearsay and conjecture.
SS weren't the only one in the limo, and whether they 'discuss' is irrelevant if they are subpoenaed.
Trump was criticized for not attending the rally, now he is criticized for having the balls in trying to go. It’s one or the other Dana.
Wow, you mean to tell me that someone is paying attention to this deflection of a hearing.. LOL!! Cracks me up but apparently there are fish in the water biting at the bait.
Was a lie. They have two SS that will testify that Cassidy Hutchinson Beotch was lying her sphincter off.
Was a good fictional show today.
Danac. 18 months and you still Hate Trump
That is some kind of Stupid for sure
Stay with it you are fully invested at this point. LMAO
Republicans have gained more than 1M new voters in the past year attributable to returnees that Trump caused to defect and moderates who have become disillusioned with the the Democrat’s increasingly progressive agenda. It will be interesting to see how this trend is influenced based on state-level reaction to the reversal of Roe v Wade.
Way more than one million . More like 10 million and those are just the legal voters.
Prolly have 5 million more illegal voters who’ll pull the handle for GOP this Nov.
Buck Fiden and Dems are skrewd.
What does a real government for the people look and feel like?
I know, I know, been 18 months since that.
"It will be interesting to see how this trend is influenced based on state-level reaction to the reversal of Roe v Wade. "
"What does a real government for the people look and feel like? "
Government for *which* people? There's the question.
"18 months and you still Hate Trump
That is some kind of Stupid for sure "
Try 30 years I've despised the cretin. Mounds of evidence and you still give him credence? That's a special kind of stupid. Will you still adore him when he's being perp-walked?
“Mounds of evidence and you still give him credence?”
Some of us prefer to SEE the evidence before we hang someone. Even if we don’t like them. But then again, some of us believe in due process.
“ Try 30 years I've despised the cretin. Mounds of evidence and you still give him credence? That's a special kind of stupid. Will you still adore him when he's being perp-walked?”
If there was any evidence trump has done anything remotely illegal he would’ve been in jail the day after Biden took office. Good thing lawmakers are wasting still wasting our time and money on the past while this country goes to shit
Big Nothing Veggie Burger.
Just want to try and keep him off ballot in 24 which will make him wildly popular with more people. As times goes along they would have been better to just let him lay.
But. . . . . With his very popular Truth Social they figgered he's going to get the news coverage on The Truth some they went forward.
That freak Hutchinson testify yesterday was the Cheey on top of the Woke Loser Cake. Changed Lawyers they day before her testimony, everyone in that chamber knew she was lying her @ss off. She looked like an idiot. They must have paid her a grundle sh!tload of cash to make up thaat stupid story.
"With his very popular Truth Social..."
As of late April 2022, MarketWatch reported that Truth Social had around 513,000 active daily users, in comparison to Twitter's reported active daily userbase of 217 million.
lmao. Don't confuse your little cult of Trump with the world.
Danac. Absolutely. Question is will you still love Biden, Obama, Hillary when they are taking that same little walk?
I don't 'love' them at all, I simply *prefer* them to Trump. And I'm still happy Biden kicked Trump out of power. I've said it repeatedly, if and when the GOP nominates a GOOD person I will happily support them. Nominate cretins, kiss my vote goodbye.
And yes, this is 'personal' as opposed to voting the party ticket or voting on 'principle'. My vote, my priority, my choice.
Why does the supposed star witness suddenly appear after a year and a half.... and it's another gal, emotionally wounded and bitter that Trump beat Hillary. Not impressed.
They need to change the names of these proceedings from "Hearings" to "Hearsayings"........
“My vote, my priority, my vote”
As I suspected you are a bitch too ! Lmao!!
So, they get this dizzy menstruating person to testify and it sounds like she is either lying or more dizzy than she even appears. Secret Service personnel are begging to testify to completely refute her testimony. This political sham is beyond laughable.
With any luck, she’ll be brought up on charges of falsifying her statement.
Can you even falsify heresay? She could have mis-heard someone incorrectly recounting someone else's mis-statement.
Thus the reason it hardly qualifies as evidence of anything other than a one sided witch-hunt towards a predetermined conclusion.
“ And yes, this is 'personal' as opposed to voting the party ticket or voting on 'principle'. My vote, my priority, my choice.”
This world is no place for weak and feeble people…
No place for sheep who vote straight party line ;-)
This nutjob will be up before a new 6th hearing in Jan 2023.
Hope her lawyer of 24hrs gave her good advice. Hope her Soros check was large. She going to need it.
They'll subpoena everyone she referred to. Just a matter of time.
“No place for sheep who vote straight party line”
It’s not even that. It’s for one man over country. They eat their own if you aren’t on the Trump train. One con man and his dog whistles over the constitution. You can even vote with Trump 95% of the time but they will still eat you alive if you call out Trump for his fraud and lies.
And then they b#%ch about other peoples morals as icing of the cake.
Patriotic my #ss.
“You can even vote with Trump 95% of the time but they will still eat you alive if you call out Trump for his fraud and lies.”
Cuz you’ve got no EVIDENCE yet. But the crown jewel that you voted for is responsible for luring immigrants to come here illegally, and doesn’t say a word about 53 of them dying in a hot semi trailer. I suppose now that I think about it, what’s more patriotic than lying to immigrants and murdering them?
" doesn’t say a word about 53 of them dying..."
That is false. A quick search of 'Biden truck deaths' will find his remarks on the tragedy. And a lot on the Texass Governor making cheap political hay of the situation.
They have Biden on a VM to his son saying that he thinks he is in the clear after being compromised by a Chinese spy. Also wiring him thousands of dollars that he then sent to Russian hookers which you know were definitely tied in with the new KGB.
You know you're dealing with the blind when they mention President Trumps..."lies" No mention of creepy Joe or slick Willy or his partner the beast. No mention how this political sham of a tribunal has cherry picked it's evidence removing any video that might paint a different picture they're try to create for their sheep. The globalist power cabal that is running this leftist circus has one goal, to make sure President Trump can't run again. They fear him because they can't control him. He won't follow their America hating lead. As Jon Turley said, President Trump maybe can be found guilty of doing a bad thing or being a bad person. But nothing illegal. He did nothing criminal in any way. What we have is obstruction of justice by this very tribunal.
“A quick search of 'Biden truck deaths' will find his remarks on the tragedy.”
…and a quick agreement by Biden to continue securing the border would likely have prevented it all together. Much like the fentanyl epidemic we have here. Your boy is responsible for all of it…
“And a lot on the Texass Governor making cheap political hay of the situation.”
Yeah, asking for a secure border is nothing but “political hay”. But alas, I keep forgetting that there is NO border crisis. Red herring right!? Lol!
Apparently, mrs. Hutchinson forgot about Trumps abhorrent behavior on Jan 6 th. Because she applied for a job with his company on January 14th.
Yeah, that Woktopian is in trouble.
I love Trials where Hearsay is all you need for a Blockbuster witness testimony.
Move along, draw fire yardbird.
Good to see you have not folded up like most Libs. Waiting on Nov FlatKS? Or you still enjoying digging up dirt over there on the Kansas thread on fellow residents?
Axel, *this* topic is about Trump. (He'd probably appreciate that ;-) )
What a kangaroo Court no cross examination,hand picked Trump hating republicans and refuted hearsay testimony.Its an embarrassment just like the attempted impeachment.Americans are smarter than Democrats think.
They got him now boys!!!! They got him! Trump got some ketchup on the wall and a staffer says she heard a guy say something and heard about some other people saying something and somebody who knows somebody said something may have happened. Forget about the secret service guys in the car saying none of this went down.
Yep, they got him. DanaC should be dancing a jig right now.
From Hearsay Dem Party!
Like I said from Day # One.
Joe will get us in a new war as all Dem’s do and then tell Americans “you cant change horses during a war we could be compromised in the Combat Zone”
If you have no heard Joebama is slowly deploying more and more CBT BDE’s to Germany, Poland, and other EU nations.
He is quietly going to build up our forces in east block. Any 9th grader could see that coming.
We need this guy gone before he starts a huge regional war in the EU! Save the earth but start a War thatll put more carbon in atmosphere than China would in 100yrs.
Buck Fiden for you!
Shaft2Short, I'll dance when Trump does - waltzing into Leavenworth ;-)
Shaft2Short, I'll dance when Trump does - waltzing into Leavenworth ;-)
I feel like you’re the guy on welfare that takes 100$ every week and plays the lotto………never gonna win
No, I'm the guy on SS who maybe gambles $10 a week and understands that some things (like this forum) are *entertainment* ;-)
Danac this is anything but entertainment. Good try but you Hate Trump so much that the subject is nothing but serious. For most of us it is entertainment You and others like KS it’s deadly serious. What fools you guys are are
No, I'm the guy on SS who maybe gambles $10 a week and understands that some things (like this forum) are *entertainment”
Lmk if it works out
Every one on that bullcrap hearing bench are making at least 175/yr plus who knows how much for staff and support and counsel.
Its criminal and a sham.
You like Apples KS, how ya like Hedge Apples?
There expert witnesses crumble on inspection
Danac what the hell is going to happen now. With this bitch not able to tell the truth. How do they get Trump in handcuffs from here??
She reminds of that college girl went before congress to keep birth control pills free some years back... she is about as honest and trustworthy as that Ford woman they pulled out of the slime to go against Kavanaugh, and lastly that portly fellow they got to say Trump made a bad phone call to Zelensky who now gets free money just like Hunter.
RK, the only people I hear impeaching the witness (so far) are the usual "I get all my news from alt-right-hardcore.com" guys here. I suspect more will be corroborated than refuted.
PS take a hard look at the 'character assassination' going on here and elsewhere since Tuesday. Hardly a valid counterpoint to be heard. "She's a slut, no let's deflect back to Biden!"
"the subject is nothing but serious."
The *subject* is serious, the discussions here are a clown show. I got popcorn and a good seat ;-)
“ The *subject* is serious, the discussions here are a clown show. I got popcorn and a good seat ;-)”
DanaC, throughout all of this you have been adding your satire and you have admitted that your dislike for Trump overrides any objective thinking when it comes to him.
If you want a serious discussion then you have be serious to begin with!
“ The *subject* is serious, the discussions here are a clown show. I got popcorn and a good seat ;-)”
DanaC, throughout all of this you have been adding your satire and you have admitted that your dislike for Trump overrides any objective thinking when it comes to him.
If you want a serious discussion then you have be serious to begin with!
DanaC - the end game here is that the Dems are going to claim Trump promoted an insurrection to try and declare he can't run for office again under the 14th Amendment. They couldn't take him down with 2 impeachments, so now we have this political theatre.
The reality is that the more the Dems try to prevent Trump from running, the more they look afraid of him winning, and the more Trump supporters will want to vote for him again.
Now it comes out the configuration of the vehicle they rode in can in no way have happen as described. Potus was in back seat and partioned.
We have a camera hound looking for 15min of fame!
No Dano, she said she heard the President say something to the effect " I call shotgun" as they got Into whatever vehicle... thats a mystery.
I would love to see the taxpayer tab for all the swamp creatures in that room. sickening.
Danac. As so often you are wrong. I saw one report on msnbc and two others on one San Antonio local news (liberal) and one Corpus Christi local news outlet (liberal). I was told by a good fried in the valley that a dissing of the witness was done by the news outlet in Mexico You can discount that one as its second hand hearsay like the testimony of this bombshell Jan 6 commission witness
It's amazing how the media has so many ignorant followers that believe whatever agenda they push. Nobody has yet to produce any evidence that Trump encouraged Jan 6th. Whether you like Trump or not it would take a delusional person to not see how bias the media is. Look how they down played the riots and how they ignore inflammatory comments Mad by leftist. The vast majority of the crowd that day on Jan 6th condemned what happened but the media doesn't talk about that. I figure the GOP will end up putting their support behind some Neo Con, I hope I'm wrong.
It’s my understanding that if you want truth, a fair trial, and expect due process, then you are simply “DEFLECTING” from the reality of the situation. Evidence isn’t required when working with the experts like the ones on the J6 committee. That’s why Hunters laptop isn’t considered real evidence.
70, I fervently HOPE there's a fair trial, with due process etc. etc. But as usual you deflect from the simple fact that this is not a trial but an investigation, and gloss over the difference. If and when Trump is actually tried, I'll make more popcorn, call a bookie and bet hard.
https://www.senate.gov/committees/ you read that?
This is an investigation that has not and will not provide any evidence of a crime.
I wish there would be charges formerly filed. This would force discovery, cross examination, defense…etc. These witnesses would completely crumble and fall apart. Just like the Ukrainian phone call. One, only ONE fact witness who had to answer Jim Jordan’s question, “What did Trump say he wanted from the Ukraine?” The answer, “nothing, I want nothing. No quid pro quo.”
Trump is not guilty of anything and will not be going to jail let alone even face charges.
Stormy Daniel's and her perv lawyer took Trump to court... and lost. I think she owes Trump $300k now, and the perv lawyer went to prison. And she is way past her prime for earning now.... lol
Dana, I must say with the exception of a couple other posters that may come close, you are the most passionate and emotional bowsiter at present... unless false evidence is presented, Trump did nothing illegal. I believe you would bet your house away to have the satisfaction of Mr. Trump in shackles... emotional betting is exactly that... betting on your emotions. I just did a Kamala Harris! ;0)
Just look for the Peckar Gnats. Sure sign that this thing is a booger fest.
Representatives Raskin and Schiff did not appear confident or believable during their television appearances in reference to Ms. Hutchinson's testimony. Additionally, if it was known that her testimony conflicted with the statements and testimony of others, (like the note she claimed she wrote) there should at least be a declaration of that circumstance. Not a good look for the Committee.
In the belly of the Beast.
Any time a witness uses the phrase “to the effect of” you know they are not being totally truthful. Not only did she do it once but twice.
Another interesting take is she referenced the limo. However video from that day shows Trump in a suburban.
She was only testifying to what she heard. So unless they can get her hearsay witness to deny they told her that statement she cant be prosecuted.
So, whats that say for this Donkey Pox Show? Waste of time.
I know two things for sure, some are going to say Trump is guilty no matter what and some say he's innocent no matter what. I'll wait till the end of the ninth inning and I'll guess. : )