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Are these good Blacktails
Mule Deer
Contributors to this thread:
Jerry Leblanc 19-Aug-22
bowhunt 19-Aug-22
'Ike' 19-Aug-22
Bearman 19-Aug-22
molsonarcher 19-Aug-22
Jerry Leblanc 19-Aug-22
JohnMC 19-Aug-22
spike78 19-Aug-22
Treeline 19-Aug-22
LKH 19-Aug-22
t-roy 19-Aug-22
BOWUNTR 19-Aug-22
'Ike' (Phone) 19-Aug-22
Treeline 19-Aug-22
BOHNTR 19-Aug-22
Jerry Leblanc 20-Aug-22
Treeline 20-Aug-22
Jerry Leblanc 20-Aug-22
Tilzbow 20-Aug-22
Jerry Leblanc 20-Aug-22
badbull 20-Aug-22
badbull 20-Aug-22
badbull 21-Aug-22
Jerry Leblanc 21-Aug-22
Grey Ghost 21-Aug-22
Jerry Leblanc 22-Aug-22
shakey 26-Aug-22
19-Aug-22

Jerry Leblanc's embedded Photo
Jerry Leblanc's embedded Photo
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Saw this bachelor group and was wondering how good these ones are.

From: bowhunt
19-Aug-22
Yep!

From: 'Ike'
19-Aug-22
Every day of the week and twice on Sunday!

From: Bearman
19-Aug-22
Yep, and the one is a VERY good one.

From: molsonarcher
19-Aug-22
Absolutely!

19-Aug-22
Unfortunately unhuntable. Right in the middle of Yosemite. Not a care in the world.

From: JohnMC
19-Aug-22
Treeline does think so. ;)

From: spike78
19-Aug-22
Hell those would be good whitetails.

From: Treeline
19-Aug-22
They would be good blacktails if they were blacktails…

If they are in Yosemite, they are mule deer. They are way east of the blacktail/mule deer boundary.

The tail on the one that is visible is definitely a mule deer tail. Those are mule deer.

From: LKH
19-Aug-22
Yes, but the big one is a nice muley.

From: t-roy
19-Aug-22
Why did the muley buck cross the road?

Because he wanted to be a blacktail…

From: BOWUNTR
19-Aug-22
Some might argue that those are Columbia Blacktails... follow the science. Ed F

19-Aug-22
Ah yes, left out your location at first...

From: Treeline
19-Aug-22
They could have some blacktail genetics, and it would be interesting to see how much they have in that area but they are a pretty significant distance east of the line.

From: BOHNTR
19-Aug-22
You should see my giant Tule Elk I have……from AZ! :)

20-Aug-22
Learn something new everyday. I stand corrected. I thought that deer in the Sierras were Blacktails. Sorry I am from the East.

From: Treeline
20-Aug-22

Treeline's Link
Here are the Boone and Crockett species boundaries. Pretty interesting.

20-Aug-22
Thanks for the info

From: Tilzbow
20-Aug-22
I’ve lived in Reno a long time and travel through the Sierras several times each year. I regularly see Blacktails or hybrids in areas around and on the way to Grass Valley,CA. Most sightings are on highway 20 between I-80 and Grass Valley in the transition zone where conifers and hardwoods start to mix. They’re definitely not pure mule deer and look much more like Blacktails than mule deer. That said deer in most other areas of the Sierras I frequent are regular old pure strain mule deer. I guess my point is there are likely other pockets where the two are intermingled and as far as B&C, they've got to draw a line somewhere…..

20-Aug-22
Thanks for the info

From: badbull
20-Aug-22

badbull's embedded Photo
Blacktail hybrid ?
badbull's embedded Photo
Blacktail hybrid ?
Those hybrids in that area can grow some big antlers. Pretty sure l have a nice set of antlers from a rifle killed blacktail buck from that area many years ago.

From: badbull
20-Aug-22
Sorry about the pic orientation as I tried to rotate it but it didn't work.

From: badbull
21-Aug-22
After reading all the posts on this thread, l am not so confident that the pic I posted is a hybrid. Would welcome any opinions as to this buck's genetics.

21-Aug-22
Thanks for the info

From: Grey Ghost
21-Aug-22
The deer in the OP’s pics look like plain old mule deer to me judging by their body size, tail, lighter and longer face, and length of antlers.

Badbull, I’d guess your antlers also came from a mule deer, but without genetic testing, I doubt anyone can say for sure.

Matt

22-Aug-22

Jerry Leblanc's embedded Photo
Jerry Leblanc's embedded Photo
Here is a picture with a tail if that means anything.

From: shakey
26-Aug-22

shakey's embedded Photo
shakey's embedded Photo
Here’s s my daughters, just west of Yosemite. She passed 4-5 bigger to shoot this one on the last day.

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