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Making Atko taller?
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Contributors to this thread:
DonVathome 10-Oct-22
DonVathome 11-Oct-22
fdp 11-Oct-22
Bowfreak 11-Oct-22
DonVathome 12-Oct-22
DonVathome 14-Oct-22
DonVathome 14-Oct-22
Grey Ghost 14-Oct-22
DonVathome 14-Oct-22
Ermine 14-Oct-22
fdp 14-Oct-22
Nick Muche 14-Oct-22
Matt 14-Oct-22
DonVathome 15-Oct-22
DonVathome 15-Oct-22
DonVathome 17-Oct-22
Nick Muche 20-Oct-22
Ermine 20-Oct-22
Ermine 23-Oct-22
vodgfoge 26-Oct-22
vodgfoge 26-Oct-22
vodgfoge 26-Oct-22
From: DonVathome
10-Oct-22
My Hillerberg Atko is not tall enough. Because of this wet snow builds up until tent collapses - which causes the 2 layers to touch and instantly transmit water that has built up on the inside of the outer layer.

Also I am 6' tall and I am not able to sit up straight anywhere inside, or even in the foyer.

It seems to me that it could be taller. I have tried to adjust it but cannot. The only pole is long enough, and if it were to flex to make it higher, and then less wide it would be perfect.

I will measure the inside height soon and post what it is here to see if everyone else has the same inside height.

From: DonVathome
11-Oct-22
The center height inside my tent, at the tallest point, is 34"

From: fdp
11-Oct-22
Have you talked to the manufacturer?

From: Bowfreak
11-Oct-22
Am I missing something? Wouldn't the smart this be to just buy a tent with the dimensions to meet your needs?

From: DonVathome
12-Oct-22
To some extent yes. I love the tent and yes I emailed the manufacturer. Their website claims it should be 2" taller inside. IT is a good, $600, quality 1 man tent. I know I am missing something. It seems highly unlikely that they make a tent, and have for well over a decade, that collapses under wet snow.

I played around some more yesterday and got it a little taller. What was "odd" was tightening the ropes that extend of either side, attached by the only pole) pulled it back down. I had to leave them loose. Never used a tent that set up with loose ropes. Ever.

I need wet snow to see if what I did helps.

From: DonVathome
14-Oct-22
A really dumb response from Atko:

Hello Donald,

Thank you for your email. We are sorry to hear about the issue you are having with the Akto.

Are you able to send us a photo of your tent set up? A picture of the whole tent would be great.

Have you had a chance to sit down on a chair or floor and have someone measure you from the ground to the top of your head. Some folks are more legs, some are more body, this will affect on the room available at the tallest point of your tent.

We look forward to hearing back from you.

My email to them:

My Hillerberg Atko is not tall enough. Because of this wet snow builds up until tent collapses - which causes the 2 layers to touch and instantly transmit water that has built up on the inside of the outer layer. I am 6' tall and I am not able to sit up straight anywhere inside, or even in the foyer. It seems to me that it could be taller. I have tried to adjust it but cannot find a way to make it taller. The only pole is long enough, and if it were to flex to make it higher, and then less wide it would be perfect, but the tent itself does not let it get taller. The center height inside my tent, at the tallest point, is 34"

Your website says it should be 36" inside, any ideas how I can get the extra 2"?

From: DonVathome
14-Oct-22
There response is silly. My height makes no difference on the Atko shedding snow. It also makes no difference the my tents assembled height is 2" shorter then the advertised assembled height.

From: Grey Ghost
14-Oct-22
You might be expecting too much from a tent that weighs less than 3 pounds.

I looked for the setup directions to see what you might be doing wrong, but I couldn't find them. I hope you figure it out. That's a pricey tent to not be completely satisfied with it.

Matt

From: DonVathome
14-Oct-22
True GG! I just know I am doing something wrong. No way this tent does not shed most wet snow (mine never has). Very dangerous if you are not inside and tapping on the top of tent every so often to cause the snow to slide down. I was in AK last year and woke up to HARD snow. Bottom of tent had collapsed on my feet/sleeping bag, bag got wet. I had to set an alarm for every 10 minutes in case I fell asleep and tap on the tent to cause snow to slide off. From 3am - 6am.

I doubt the tent should do this and simply making it a little steeper would solve the problem, and me measuring 2" below factory specs implies my setup is wrong I jsut cannot figure out how. The pole "seems" impossible to make steeper, the design/layout of the tent simply prevents it from getting much taller.

I kind of got it closer but will require 2 more stakes, or rocks to stop each end of pole from "popping" out - thus making peak lower.

I do get it is a light tent and other then this love it. Outside of wet snow I trust my life to it.

From: Ermine
14-Oct-22
Not a fan of the akto. I like the niak better

From: fdp
14-Oct-22
Ermin do you not care for the Auto because of the roof/snow issue?

From: Nick Muche
14-Oct-22
Atko is basically a coffin. Much better and even lighter options, especially if you go floorless.

From: Matt
14-Oct-22
Hilleberg's response makes perfect sense as snow build-up and being 2" short could both be due to an issue with how the tent is pitched. There is a video on how to properly set it up on Hilleberg's website.

From: DonVathome
15-Oct-22
I di follow the video and instructions. I do like the tent - and will keep it for life because i trust it and know it well kind of:)

If I were younger I and going to be backpacking for more then 10 more years there are lighter, taller options. I agree it is a coffin. If it weighed less then taller alternatives that would be different. Still a great tent but if I were starting over I would pick another tent.

Matt, true I just thought the how tall am I question was silly.

Hillerberg actually called me and left a message - offering assistance fyi

From: DonVathome
15-Oct-22
I would live then tent a lot more if it were 4" taller then when I pitch it (2" taller then specs). I have spent around 3-4 months of my life in that tent and never being able to sit up straight gets more annoying as I get older.

From: DonVathome
17-Oct-22
I did manage to get it a little taller, will test when I am in snow again. Hillerberg called me and emailed me several times and even offered a refund if I wanted (I did not). IMO they made a huge effort to make me happy fyi.

From: Nick Muche
20-Oct-22
But did they make the Atko any bigger?

From: Ermine
20-Oct-22
fdp- I prefer free standing and more room of the niak. The akto was heavy for what it was and a coffin

From: Ermine
23-Oct-22
fdp- I prefer free standing and more room of the niak. The akto was heavy for what it was and a coffin

24-Oct-22
Keep the tent for early bug season. And buy a Black Diamond Mega Lite. Or other quality teepee. For height and snow. We have had up to 4 people in one in very cold and snowy weather . It does decent in wind too, if staked properly. Cheap, and a little over 2 pounds.

Just like everything else, tents are designed to be either a Jack of all trades or a specialist. If you need 100 mph wind protection. It should be low pro. The bent pole tents like yours won’t hold wet heavy snow without some sag and or an occasional broken pole

I know none of my blathering helps give the missing 2” Hillibergs have good resale value. Maybe it’s too small for you. .

Trade offs and conundrums:>)))

24-Oct-22

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There are lighter teepee shelters. But they are pricy. There are some with bug pro. also.

From: vodgfoge
26-Oct-22
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From: vodgfoge
26-Oct-22
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26-Oct-22

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