Big 8 pointers
Whitetail Deer
Who here is a fan of big 8 pointers?
Well check out this 8 pointer Wade Robinson shot in Iowa. They say it goes 188. Not sure how much of that is stickers and that drop tine.
Stud of a buck!
T-Roy probably passes on them:)
Yep…..all those stickers makes it too hard to dust the mount….Knarly lookin buck, for sure!
Wowza! Gotta love those big 8’s
Dang that's huge, but most of us would shoot him for being so ugly ;-)
Very nice "Typical 8" with extras. NO insult there that I can see!
Wow!!! Congratulations to Wade.
Here in Arkansas that is a 27 point!!!
Some see all the sticker points and drop time. They then add up all points and that’s what the deer is.
While others over look the stickers and drop tine and focus on the 8 point frame.
Although that is technically a base 8 I picture something cleaner looking than that if I am going to call it an 8 pointer.
Them I-oh-way boys got some big bucks. Give him another year !
It’s gonna be scored (if it does get officially scored) as a typical mainframe 8 point, with a bunch of nontypical points. Looks like it has plenty of nontypical inches to qualify as a nontypical, as well. I would describe it exactly that way, if I was explaining it to a friend. The typical aspect of the frame looks to not have many side to side deductions, as well.
Another interesting thing about the deer is they say it was a clean 8 point frame last year and they had him at 140’s. Pretty good jump in 1 year of total inches.
I call those an "8 with trash (or stickers) and a drop". If it had a main point broken off I would call it a "broken up 8".
Whatever you call it I think it's an amazing buck! Very cool!
t-Roy exactly why you never see the majority of tv guys officially score animals… It’s just easier to say 200” when it’s 185 if ya don’t have it verified…
Beautiful buck either way… but not 188” 8 point…
Any other views of the buck, Michael? My guess would be that the typical part of the rack would tally somewhere in the mid-150s, possibly a touch better. Hard to tell on the beam length, from the pic. I wouldn’t be passing on him unless I knew he was a younger deer. Lots of character on him.
EDIT: …..we were typing at the same time, Shug. I agee. I’m not seeing 188”, unless he has several additional points on the back side of the bases/beams.
I do think “mainframe” 8 is a more appropriate term for this buck. I have a good friend who killed a non typical 220” mainframe 8 that had matching 12” drop tines and a bunch of other “trash”. This is a very impressive buck no matter what you call him!
t-Roy exactly why you never see the majority of tv guys officially score animals… It’s just easier to say 200” when it’s 185 if ya don’t have it verified…
Beautiful buck either way… but not 188” 8 point…
T - Roy I can look if need be. I just seen the video the Drurys did on You tube of the deer and found that pic to post here.
I was thinking if the deer had a total of 188 it didn’t have much over 30” of stickers and that drop tine. That would put the frame in the high 150’s. To me an 8 that is over 150 is big. If I remember right they said the deer was 6.5 years old. To each there own.
t-Roy exactly why you never see the majority of tv guys officially score animals… It’s just easier to say 200” when it’s 185 if ya don’t have it verified…
Beautiful buck either way… but not 188” 8 point…
Looks like that Wade fella likes to post up his deer pics. He has few decent ones.
I glad he’s got long arms
Looks like a 188"to me Such a cool looking buck Agree would add a main frame 8pt as the descriptor Congrats to Wade that's a hammer
Definitely not an 8 pointer. But here is one. My legit IL public land 8 pointer from 2014. The passenger side nub is <1” so not score-able. Grossed 162” P&Y.
Beautiful animal, many congrats to the hunter!
Speaking of scoring basic main frame 8-points, I think there is only a handful of true clean 4x4s in B&C, but there are gobs of 5x4s where the G4 is a wash...
Great deer Zim, nice taxidermy work too
Still ain’t saw a 8 pointer on this whole thread . Zim c’mon that’s an inch
Here is a true 8 point, Alabama buck. Not a giant, but made P&Y book, 129 1/8.
Very cool buck and a great one to shoot, but Even with all the non-typical points I don't see that deer going 188. I am coming up with low to mid 140's for typical 8 score. and there are not that many inches of non-typical score. He is really long arming in the pic and the camera is really close to the deers head so that makes it very hard to accurately tell.
Here’s a nice 11 pointer I shot several years ago. I took it down to the Deer Classic and had it officially scored………Ironically, they scored it as a typical 8 pointer….Go figure!
BTW. It’s the one on the right….
Zim, that's a great looking mount. Great mass and tine length. Looks to be just almost a 9 pt.
t-roy, great looking mounts. I don't see an 8 pt rack though! Guess I don't know enough about official scoring regs.
For you scoring folks......at what point or deciding factor does a rack become defined as typical or non-typical?
I'd call the buck in the OP a main frame 8 with a bunch of extra stickers and a drop tine. Not that it matters what you call it. It's still one helluva buck.
Matt
It's a main frame 8 with trash and a drop. I have no problem calling it that to hunters who know what I'm talking about and understand.
If I was describing it to a non-hunter I'd call it a 20 pointer. But I try to never talk hunting with non-hunters. Just ticks me off. "You could deer hunt off my back porch." "I killed one with a car." Hardy-har-har-har. . . . . I'm going to just start saying "You obviously don't get what drives me. And I don't want to talk to you anymore."
That’s where I was going with this thread. I have always been impressed with big 8 point frames.
I am with the guys that see an 8 point frame with a bunch of stickers and drop tine.
This deer just adds to the “they tend to trash up when they get some age on them.”
Here is a "true 8" for you'all
Here is a "true 8" for you'all
I would still consider Wade's a main frame 8 Mine officially scored 169 6/8"
My word Bowfinatic, now that is a true 8 pt! Seems like I remember reading a thread about that deer. Congratulations again
Looks like at least an 11 pointer to me!
I'm a western guy so not sure how you describe whitetails. I always thought it was just a total of all the scoreable points.
Cool buck
The OP's picture is a main-Frame 8 with "Non-Typical" points and a drop. I don't call it a sticker if it's longer than 1". At least that's the way I was taught to measure, but, I'm not an official measurer so...
Some gorgeous bucks on here. I’ve had the pleasure of hunting some “big 8s” as you mericans call em. This one ended up getting poached on my land. I have his dead head, and it scores within an inch of his sheds
One year later, this was within an hour of being shot with a rifle in an archery zone off the road
Shot this guy in 2010, as a 9 (split brow) he scored 164", 162" as an 8. 27" beams and over 40" of mass with both bases of 6 4/8 & 6 7/8. It's also on the magnus homepage
My other big 8 that scored 163" with a split G2, 161" as an 8. 24" inside spread.....wish i had shot him with my bow though!
8 point on right: 142 3/8 - 20" inside spread - 6 1/2 years old. (Left buck 170 5/8 Gun.)
Some mighty fine 8 pointers guys.
This was my biggest 8 point (okay 7, broken brow) :) SE Oklahoma and tooth aged at 6.5 yrs.
Probably the most satisfying deer I’ve killed, because of the hunt, and the way it all transpired. Big 8’s are cool!
Here’s another EIGHT POINTER, with some trash. Dressed 245 lbs.
"Still ain’t saw a 8 pointer on this whole thread. Zim c’mon that’s an inch."
No it's not. Was measured & entered by P&Y scorer at 7/8". I would not have posted it in this thread otherwise. Photos can be deceptive.
Dang Bowfinatic, that buck just missing B&C by 2/8" validates how big a true 4x4 has to become a Booner...
M.Pauls - What did that poached dead head score?
On the hoof
On the hoof
Dang, shame, buck deserves to be a Booner...
By chance, did they age him?
I didn't He was 5 or 6 We had been following him for 3yrs
Couple of incredible 8 pointers on this thread. Thanks for sharing.
152 3/8 - Massachusetts - Dressed 198 on a very old rickety scale…he was definitely 200 on a digital scale I’d say
Here's my best archery whitetail kill that's a " what if " big 8-point frame. Southwest Kansas buck with 26 inch beams, 6 inch plus bases, 14.25 inch G2's and grosses over the magic 170 mark. However, the flyer/fork on his left G2 and the in-line/non-typical G4 on his right antler keep his net score just below 170.
Nice bucks above!
Maybe we need a 10+ thread......
... or maybe a 6 point thread...................
t-roy, hang in there and stay with it bud...maybe one day you'll kill a big whitetail...
A 6pt thread works too....
We already had a 6-pt thread in the past, there were more non-6 pointers than there were actual 6-pointers posted it seems. Kind of comical. See link.
Love me some big 8's!!! But in Canada we call em 4x4's. My biggest grossed 158 if memory serves. 14" G2's, 21+ spread and unreal mass helped him.
I don't see any "8 pointers". I see a lot of nice 4x4s. :)
I have a 150ish" 4x4 from a few years ago. Can't seem to find the picture right off hand.
T...roy What was that bucks name? Biggie somethin or other, I'm guessing. You get rather creative with naming your boys...what a stinkin' tank.
Hey ki-ke! Haven’t seen you on here for awhile! Good to see you on here again, brother!
Actually nicknamed that guy “Harley” (Fatboy) Only had a couple of pics, and one sighting of him, before I killed him on Halloween morning. The pics were taken with one of the old style 35mm trail-cams. He was a big bodied rascal, for sure. His body kinda made his rack look a bit smaller that it really was. He grossed 163”. Biggest bodied whitetail I’ve ever killed.
I’ve got one on camera that I think would possibly go 260-275 dressed. Unfortunately, he would probably only score 130” or so. His nickname is, of course, “Fat Bastard” ;-)
Fat Bastard
Fat Bastard
Another basic 5x4 appears on a 4x4 thread...8^)))
Bowfinatic - Curious, your huge 4x4, is that the same buck, different year you posted over on the 6-point thread? If so, his rack change configuration a bit... Thanks,,,
Negative zbone that buck was from 10 years ago. He changed between a 6 and 7 point. I killed the 8pt last year
I think he identifies as an 8, zbone…
Thanks, Bowfinatic...
No t-roy, he's a 5x4 with the G4 a wash as stated in my post above: "Speaking of scoring basic main frame 8-points, I think there is only a handful of true clean 4x4s in B&C, but there are gobs of 5x4s where the G4 is a wash..."
The point I was trying to make was hoping to view some nice true clean basic main frame 4x4s (small stickers okay) , but every time a thread like this comes up, people post main frame 5x4s... Oh well, so much for 4x4s...
Here’s a big one from Connecticut of all places!
I killed him the following year
Zbone….I posted the pic of Fat Bastard to show the size of his body. I’m fully aware that he’s a typical 9 pointer.
I killed this one in 2015 148 and change gross 145 and change net
Speaking of main frame 5x4s, I think it was the Hole-in-the-Horn buck's official score was changed when panel judged as a main frame 5x4 dropping it from number 1 to number 2 in B&C... I think that's how it went, but my memory ain't so good anymore...8^)))
This 8 is clean which is unusual for our area, 24 1/4" inside, 159 3/4"
Here's my best 8-pointer taken in Rhode Island.
Cat and mouse game with the biggest 8 I ever had the chance to chase back in 2012. Only laid eyes on him once, but there was too much brush for a shot. He was killed by a neighbor about a mile away during the gun season. Can’t confirm, but was told he scored 162”.
My best 8, does have the stickers. Nebraska public, 159 2/8 and 149 net.
My 2011 public land, 40 yard,rifle kill. Scored in the 160"s. The left g2 is 15". My taxidermist said if his points were straight up, instead of angled inward, he'd be the biggest 8 point he'd ever seen.
Bowfinatic that is an awesome 8 pointer.
Could never catch up to this guy. The drop tine was only there the last year he showed up. Never a daylight pic.
Never scored, but i was incredibly happy with this buck.
What is interesting now that i think about it...both of those bucks were on the same farm at the same time. One i had multiple pictures of and never actually saw him. The one i killed had zero pics and killed first time i saw him on 11/1.
This is my heaviest buck, 255 pounds field dressed and also an 8 point. I'm 5'11", 200# in this pic for perspective. I hung him upside-down in my garage with a 10' ceiling, his hooves were touching the ceiling and his nose was touching the floor. This is the kind of bucks northern Wisconsin produced before wolves wiped them out.
I had this nice 8 on my property for a couple years but I never caught up with him.
T....roy
I'm here all the time! You dont pay attention. I LOVE Fat Bastard! That 8 you posted looks like he was a fawn eater in his later years for sure. No other way to pack on that kind of poundage. What a critter. Please send some current photos when you get a chance and updates on the ones you didnt kill last year....
Hope all is well!
Wow, you guys killed some dandy 8-points, CONGRATS!
With these 8-point and 6-point threads main beam 4x and 3x antlers, have a question for measurers - On a 4 point main beam, there are 5 circumferences' measured, right? One between base and brow, one between brow and G2, one between G2 and G3, and since there is not a G4, one halfway from tip to G3... Is this correct? And on a 3 point main frame, one between base and brow, one between brow and G2, and halfway from tip to G2 gets counted twice?
Zbone…..You only get 4 circumference measurements per side, irregardless if it is an 8 pointer or a 10-12-14 etc pointer. I’m not certain about a 6 point, but I think you get four as well.
I am not a measurer. However, there are only 4 circumference measurements for each side. I believe this applies to all the deer, sheep, pronghorn, etc. 4 per side, always.
Oops, I counted wrong... Yeah, 4 not 5, my bad... So a 3-point main beam one between base and brow, one between brow and G2, and halfway from tip to G2 gets counted twice... That counts 4...
Say on a big forky, one between base and brow (G1) , and the halfway from G1 brow to tip, multiplied 3 times... On a giant spike 8^)))), halfway from base to tip 4 times...8^)
I can’t tell if this guy should go in here or whether I also need to start a “Big 5 pointer” thread…ok, I couldn’t resist :)
Where’s the Big 4 point thread?
2022, going on the wall, not to shabby for FL deer
I’m not sure if this qualifies for a big 8, but my biggest 8
Lots of big 8's that have more than 8 points on this thread! Here's my biggest clean 8
Playing cat and mouse with this guy now
Playing cat and mouse with this guy now
So there was a question earlier on in this thread of what determines whether an official measurer will measure as a typical or non-typical. The rule for the Pope and Young club states that a whitetail deer must have 15” (5” for coues whitetail) of abnormal points to meet the requirements for non-typical and that if it meets that 15” threshold, then it must be entered as a non-typical.
Was going through computer files looking for something else and came across this photo... It was over 20 years ago, (that's how far back I was into the files...8^)) and can't remember how I acquired the photo and don't have much info on it, only the year 2001, Hillsdale Co MI, highest scoring 4x4 at the time, netted 180-3/8"... I assume it was a gun kill... If correct, there has since been a least one another that scored higher...
I assume this one is the top 4x4... Notes I had on it - the buck’s net score of 183-1/8 would rank as the largest 4x4 ever submitted to B&C... IL gun kill...
This is how impressive this monster was on hoof...
I remember that IL gun kill well. Incredible buck.
My dad killed this 8 Pt back in the 70s up in N Minnesota. I had it remounted and it hangs in the local Sportsman’s Warehouse.
I’ve never scored it - any thoughts about what it would score?
Brad…..I’d guess around 125”, give or take a few inches.
Zbone, that thing doesn’t even look real. My lord
Article about the big IL 8 pt
Here is a great 9 point in a terrible picture from many years ago. It scored as an 8 point. It went into P&Y at a little over 166. It grossed a little over 170. It was extremely symmetrical. It had the same number of inches on each side. It took 4 inches on one side and put it on a 9th point.
Last years 8
Last years 8
Two dogs mobile. I was curious if that was shot in Ks and if so, what county
My biggest 8 142” gross 138 3/8 net
Killed this nice eight this SEP.
My biggest is an 8. Killed right out my back door. Never scored it. The beams are bladed. Wide and thick. Any guesses on the score? I’ve always been curious.
Going through old computer files again, ran across this... Don't remember the story or how I came across these pix... Only info I have: Oct 2009, all time biggest 8-point...
Zbone….pretty sure it was poached in Minnesota.
Could be, I have another pic of a wildlife officer holding it... Do you know what it scored?
Supposedly grossed a shade over 190” and netted 185”. Unbelievable 8 pointer, for sure!
I know of a 182" 8-point from northern Wisconsin that never got entered into any books.
This is the buck poached in Mn. It would have been the largest 8 pointer ever scored. It went 188”. If I remember right the guy used his wife’s tag on the deer. The deer was shot by Cannon Falls MN. Just SE of the twin cities.
There are a number of articles to be had on the web of the deer.
I can’t tell if Zbone’s pics are the same deer or not. They look different to me.
I think the last one was taken via 22 if my memory serves me.
I have a pic somewhere of me holding that record whitetail rack. Yes it was poached. enforcement supv friend of mine had the rack taking it to the Governors deer opener event that weekend. I remember saying after holding it, why am I even going hunting tomorrow!!
Same buck, Michael. Easiest way for me to tell is comparing the the right g3 In both pics.
I stopped by a taxidermist shop, just today. He had a clean 8 point mount on his wall, that he said it grossed a touch over 180”. From the looks of it, I don’t doubt it.
Here is a link to the Star Tribune that did an article on the deer and the hunter.
Yep Michael, that is the same buck... Thanks
I wanna play, had almost no deductions.
Never got him killed
Never got him killed
Took an 8 point in 92 that grossed 150 1/8, and netted 147 1/8. He dressed 219.
Need a big doe thread cuz well you can’t eat the horn and my pecker is big enough.
That explains the content in your thread, Anchor point. Obviously, most of the blood is not reaching your brain…
Anchor- that’s what people say when they never shoot mature bucks, even though they want to
Some beautiful mainframe 8s here guys! We targeted and took this 8 out of the gene pool a couple weeks ago - didn't use string but right at or just shy of 140 gross. Can't let those genetics get spread around any more.
