Are you talking Tinkerbell internet influencer heavy…or the 450g to 550g arrow that the vast majority of experienced bowhunters use?
All of the experienced bowhunters I know- inc a couple shop owners, guys with all of the NA species, guys with hundreds of animals with an arrow- all shoot arrows between 430g -530g.
Be careful where you get your advice…
No need for the small diameter shafts that seem to be the "In-Thing" right now as you don't need to worry about cross-wind drifting at 40 yards or less.
There are an almost limitless number of viable options however...
I am talking the 5 mm version.
ElkNut
I tend to shoot “woodgrain” carbons, 500 spine, cut 27” and topped off with a couple inches of 2117 and a standard aluminum RPS insert. That with a 200 gr FP comes in around 485 grains. 2 more inches of shaft gets you to 500 gr, near enough.
Altitude Sick (to the best of my knowledge) has tested this kind of thing much more thoroughly than most.
I don’t think you need to spend anywhere near what it is easily possible to spend to get set up for what you have in mind to do. Your money, your choices. I guess if you basically never take a shot at an unmeasured distance, you probably only damage your arrows when you get a Robin-Hood or either 1) get a pass-through and hit a rock or 2) don’t get a pass-through and the animal breaks your arrow.
I keep thinking that I should do as Jay did - buy some beef bones and shoot them until you have identified the weak link in your arrow.
For me, so far it has been using a short (steel) glue-on adapter with a 125-grain Ace standard (about $35 per SIX).
This was the 125, which I understand uses dinner still in the main blade than the 160 that I am planning to stick with here.
Let me kill a few dead cow bones and I’ll let you know how it all works out
So though I like an arrow on the heavier side (450-550) a 2 blade works with any weight arrow.
Example; In the last 2 years of the 12 animals I shot with my 47# recurve, 10 were passthrus- inc an 800# moose last fall. 553g arrow.
Not to say that other BHs don’t work…they do. My advice is that if you do go with one of the inefficient designs, bump up your arrow weight to help that head perform.
Now if all you are shooting is thin skinned whitetails- anything works.
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Shot placement is a really big factor in it all also.
You can hobble a Monster Contraption with an inefficient BH at $35-$50 or more/head or you can blow through stuff with a good 2-blade design that’s been working since the Depression at $36 for a half dozen. Choices and priorities.
It just gets Silly when people start looking for equipment that will haul their butt out of the fire no matter how bad they screw up. Unless you’re hunting something that will take exception to being shot and come kick your ass out of spite, you just need to put clean holes through both lungs and get an exit, then give it 1/2 hour to let it run (or walk) off to die (if you don’t see it fall). Been working just fine for 10,000 years or so. Nothing in modern archery has changed the fundamental equation except to make to easier for anyone to succeed with less time & effort invested.
The thing about the big, solid bones that we all worry so much about is that there is rarely anything worth hitting behind them anyway, unless you’ve gambled on a foolish angle. If you smash through a humerus or the thick end of the scap, you may not accomplish anything more than ensuring that the animal that you’ve lost will die a bit sooner, rather than later, but unrecoverable either way.
They used to figure that animals wounded by arrows would likely recover (unless gut-shot), whereas bullet wounds tended to kill… no matter how slowly. Seems to me that modern “advances” may have increased lethality on poor hits without improving recoverability on fair-to-good ones. Might make the easy ones easier, but it seems to me that recovery rates plummet once an animal has been bumped from its first bed, regardless of the head that’s used. Not as if anyone here has ever said that on a marginal hit, you should wait 4-6 hours if using a conventional 2-blade but only 1-2 hours if using a big mechanical.
That made me lol, Beendare!
The Axis set up comes in at 475 grains and another set up (Bkack Eagle shaft) I shoot comes in at 550.
Like others have said, it appears the 450 to 475 gr is the sweet spot.
Just shot a nice moose at 40 yards 3 weeks ago. Centered a rib on entry and the hide caught it on the backside so no exit hole. Had a decent blood trail but he went down in a few seconds 40 yards away. OK performance, which has been typical with the setup using an accurate over the top expandable broadhead on quite a variety of game.
As per needing super heavy arrows and two blade single bevel heads, don't think you need 'em for the 29 species we get to hunt around NA with your draw weight and length. And I like the blood trails and results from 3-blade or 4 -blade heads. Without a doubt I'd shoot the bleeders on the Iron Wills if that was my choice of heads.
Thats still his logo right? I don’t follow the guy….
