Mathews Inc.
Kansas Live Hunt 2022
Whitetail Deer
Contributors to this thread:
Pat Lefemine 06-Nov-22
Bowboy 06-Nov-22
Michael 06-Nov-22
Bowfinatic 06-Nov-22
Thornton 06-Nov-22
steve 06-Nov-22
BigOk 06-Nov-22
Pat Lefemine 06-Nov-22
Scrappy 06-Nov-22
Pat Lefemine 06-Nov-22
EmbryOklahoma 06-Nov-22
Errorhead 06-Nov-22
WV Mountaineer 06-Nov-22
t-roy 06-Nov-22
MA-PAdeerslayer 06-Nov-22
Bou'bound 06-Nov-22
Hancock West 06-Nov-22
Thornton 06-Nov-22
Pat Lefemine 06-Nov-22
Bowfinatic 06-Nov-22
Bowfinatic 06-Nov-22
Ambush 06-Nov-22
EmbryOklahoma 06-Nov-22
Thornton 07-Nov-22
steve 07-Nov-22
APauls 07-Nov-22
Brotsky 07-Nov-22
Rut Nut 07-Nov-22
Shiras42 07-Nov-22
greg simon 07-Nov-22
KB 07-Nov-22
Duke 07-Nov-22
Rut Nut 07-Nov-22
Old Reb 07-Nov-22
Ambush 07-Nov-22
x-man 07-Nov-22
ki-ke 07-Nov-22
t-roy 07-Nov-22
JohnMC 07-Nov-22
Ned mobile 07-Nov-22
steve 07-Nov-22
Bou'bound 07-Nov-22
Z Barebow 07-Nov-22
molsonarcher 07-Nov-22
Grey Ghost 07-Nov-22
Hancock West 07-Nov-22
fastflight 07-Nov-22
WV Mountaineer 07-Nov-22
JohnMC 07-Nov-22
JohnMC 07-Nov-22
Z Barebow 07-Nov-22
Z Barebow 07-Nov-22
Bou'bound 07-Nov-22
Bowboy 07-Nov-22
buckhammer 07-Nov-22
Grey Ghost 07-Nov-22
t-roy 07-Nov-22
BigOk 07-Nov-22
Ambush 07-Nov-22
Jim McNamara 07-Nov-22
ROUGHCOUNTRY 07-Nov-22
Nick Muche 07-Nov-22
Rgiesey 07-Nov-22
Bearman 07-Nov-22
TMac 07-Nov-22
drycreek 07-Nov-22
MA-PAdeerslayer 07-Nov-22
Grey Ghost 07-Nov-22
Hancock West 07-Nov-22
Zbone 07-Nov-22
Buffalo1 07-Nov-22
Ron Niziolek 07-Nov-22
Hancock West 07-Nov-22
Nick Muche 07-Nov-22
APauls 07-Nov-22
Michael 07-Nov-22
GhostBird 08-Nov-22
FORESTBOWS 08-Nov-22
goelk 08-Nov-22
Jethro 08-Nov-22
Hancock West 08-Nov-22
RK 08-Nov-22
Ambush 08-Nov-22
Jrhendricks 08-Nov-22
tobywon 08-Nov-22
Brotsky 08-Nov-22
jmiller 08-Nov-22
Bowfinatic 08-Nov-22
Rut Nut 08-Nov-22
Boreal 08-Nov-22
Shiras42 08-Nov-22
Stekewood 08-Nov-22
Stekewood 08-Nov-22
Pat Lefemine 08-Nov-22
njbuck 08-Nov-22
bigswivle 08-Nov-22
Corax_latrans 08-Nov-22
ROUGHCOUNTRY 08-Nov-22
tracker980 08-Nov-22
hdaman 08-Nov-22
Lewis 08-Nov-22
APauls 08-Nov-22
Smtn10PT 08-Nov-22
Old School 08-Nov-22
iceman 08-Nov-22
WV Mountaineer 08-Nov-22
Zbone 08-Nov-22
Bou’bound 08-Nov-22
devozoo 08-Nov-22
Hawkeye 08-Nov-22
APauls 09-Nov-22
Bou'bound 09-Nov-22
Beav 09-Nov-22
Groundhunter 09-Nov-22
Huntiam 10-Nov-22
Blood 10-Nov-22
midwest 10-Nov-22
Bou'bound 10-Nov-22
CTBobcat 10-Nov-22
Pat Lefemine 10-Nov-22
Bou’bound 10-Nov-22
ROUGHCOUNTRY 11-Nov-22
Bowbender 11-Nov-22
bowhunt 11-Nov-22
12yards 11-Nov-22
Rancher 17-Nov-22
deerhunter72 17-Nov-22
Catscratch 17-Nov-22
t-roy 17-Nov-22
RD in WI 17-Nov-22
Pat Lefemine 17-Nov-22
Mark Watkins 07-Dec-22
RJR 17-Jan-23
From: Pat Lefemine
06-Nov-22

Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
We're back in Kansas, follow and discuss our Live Hunt
Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
We're back in Kansas, follow and discuss our Live Hunt

Pat Lefemine's Link
Big first morning with a shooter showing up! Check out our morning update. Heading right back to that stand to see if he's gonna come back this afternoon.

As usual, we will be posting an update at least daily, sometimes twice a day. Baiting is legal and we utilize it on this hunt. Get over it.

From: Bowboy
06-Nov-22
Good luck they should be rutting by now.

From: Michael
06-Nov-22
Good luck Pat!!

I have always enjoyed the semi live hunt. One of these years I need to get back to Kansas.

06-Nov-22
Your last line made me chuckle Looking forward to your updates!

From: Thornton
06-Nov-22
That escalated quickly. I can't seem to find a buck that big anywhere around here lately.

From: steve
06-Nov-22
Good luck maybe a blood trail too !!!

From: BigOk
06-Nov-22
Good luck

From: Pat Lefemine
06-Nov-22

Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Now this is a new one. That’s a badger feeding alongside a bunch of does.

Things are most definitely out of whack.

From: Scrappy
06-Nov-22
Pat you really shouldn't assume that badger is a badger. It's clear by your pic it self identifies as a doe.:)

From: Pat Lefemine
06-Nov-22
I may be a little late on my update.

06-Nov-22
“Get over it”. LOL! I’m thinking one Kansas resident won’t. :)

From: Errorhead
06-Nov-22
Or he got a shot?!?!

06-Nov-22
My buddy killed a bruiser out there this morning. Said it blew wide open yesterday. Good luck.

From: t-roy
06-Nov-22
Badgers?…Badgers!….We don’t need no stinking badgers!!

06-Nov-22
I have a feeling pats tracking a big 9 that he stuck a slick trick into…

From: Bou'bound
06-Nov-22
Either that or the bears followed him south and he’s dealing with them at the sites running the deer off.

From: Hancock West
06-Nov-22
Waiting on bowsites finest to complain about the baiting for like the 5th year in a row

From: Thornton
06-Nov-22
"Bowsite's Finest" passes up more bucks than most :)

From: Pat Lefemine
06-Nov-22
I may be a little late on my update.

06-Nov-22
=) hancock.....I was going to post something similar lol

06-Nov-22
Pats tracking a trophy badger

From: Ambush
06-Nov-22
He's busy taking a bunch of misleading pics for the Blood Trail Challenge.

06-Nov-22

From: Thornton
07-Nov-22
You need my hound? I'm 3.5 hours from your exact location. $599.99

From: steve
07-Nov-22
Still looking ??

From: APauls
07-Nov-22
lol. Sounds like a day 1 tag notch to me!

From: Brotsky
07-Nov-22
Had to carry in the buckets of corn by hand? :)

From: Rut Nut
07-Nov-22
It’s 11:05 am EST and patiently waiting for an update! ;-)

From: Shiras42
07-Nov-22
Yep Rut...Thinking we have a story coming...

From: greg simon
07-Nov-22
Gotta draw it out for a few more clicks. We understand!

From: KB
07-Nov-22

KB's embedded Photo
KB's embedded Photo

From: Duke
07-Nov-22
"LOST" Season 7... In this season Pat has been abandoned in the Sunflower State. He encounters various friends and foes alike ranging from Dorothy (also lost) looking for her pet pup, a 6'9" Jayhawk named Jameer looking for a game of hoops, an eagle named Walsh looking for home, and a QB also named Pat, looking for another ring. Stay tuned...

From: Rut Nut
07-Nov-22
I think he’s just messing with us now guys! : )

From: Old Reb
07-Nov-22
Why are you in Kansas now? This is the best rut week in Ohio. Especially in having a farm like yours to hunt.

From: Ambush
07-Nov-22
If its been this long, it’s not looking good. Might be the Blood Trail Challenge that no one solves, even Pat.

From: x-man
07-Nov-22
That badger won't let him out of the tree.

From: ki-ke
07-Nov-22
Thats great Ambush!

From: t-roy
07-Nov-22
I’m betting Pat is at the ER, getting treated for a rash caused by a negative reaction to aflatoxins.

From: JohnMC
07-Nov-22
Troy you saying the corn has gone bad?

07-Nov-22
If ur lost in a standing cornfield Pat, just follow the rows until u come to the end. (Inside kind of advice)

From: steve
07-Nov-22
Can’t be good !!!!

From: Bou'bound
07-Nov-22
He’s giving us the old switcheroo and posting it on a political site to get more viewership

From: Z Barebow
07-Nov-22
Bou

I thought Bowsite was a political website?

From: molsonarcher
07-Nov-22
The next we hear from Pat, he will be in a treestand in Ohio, with a bloodtrail challenge that stretches from Kansas to his food plots in Ohio.

From: Grey Ghost
07-Nov-22
I’m still hoping for a positive outcome. The Bowsite could use it, IMO.

Matt

From: Hancock West
07-Nov-22
The blood hounds must of been called in.

From: fastflight
07-Nov-22
Not looking good. We Habra all lost one before though. I am used to people leaving us hanging but not Pat. Lol

07-Nov-22
Pat may have tried Nick Muche’s trick and attempted to kill that badger with a shovel. But lost instead.

From: JohnMC
07-Nov-22
I think it is he dropped his phone from stand and also decided all day sits are for weenies so staying in stand day and night in stand for duration of hunt.

From: JohnMC
07-Nov-22
Pat has update page. I'll just a deer was not killed yesterday. ;)

From: Z Barebow
07-Nov-22
Bou

I thought Bowsite was a political website?

From: Z Barebow
07-Nov-22

From: Bou'bound
07-Nov-22
Wow. That’s amazing. Leave it to pat to make a memory! Now we just need him to share it with you all.

From: Bowboy
07-Nov-22
Congrats Pat and great buck!

From: buckhammer
07-Nov-22
Has Pat ever mentioned if there are any Amish nearby his Kansas retreat?

From: Grey Ghost
07-Nov-22
Congrats, Pat.

Matt

From: t-roy
07-Nov-22
I was on pins and needles, on wether you found him or not ;-) Congrats!

From: BigOk
07-Nov-22
Congrats!!

From: Ambush
07-Nov-22
Shoots a great buck, gets drunk and sleeps half the next day away while we hang there!!

May all your racoons turn into bears.

From: Jim McNamara
07-Nov-22
Though the last live hunt was much more entertaining what with the bears and such that's one fine deer! Congratulations.

From: ROUGHCOUNTRY
07-Nov-22
Congratulations!

I’ll be hunting in that area soon……..never seen Amish but Mennonite’s own good hunting land in the area.

From: Nick Muche
07-Nov-22
“ Pat may have tried Nick Muche’s trick and attempted to kill that badger with a shovel. But lost instead”

There are two things you must know about killing a badger with a shovel.. First, it’s going to take more than one swing. Second, after the first you’re committed!”

Nice looking buck, Pat!

From: Rgiesey
07-Nov-22
Good looking buck!

From: Bearman
07-Nov-22
This whole thread should vanish. Stupid!

From: TMac
07-Nov-22
Great buck congrats! Congrats to Matt as well. I would never have guessed 170 from the pic.

From: drycreek
07-Nov-22
Oh yea of little faith !

Great buck Pat ! Pity it had to end in one day, but I’d take it !

07-Nov-22
Nice buck pat! We definitely didn’t get our moneys worth on those hunt story! Lol

From: Grey Ghost
07-Nov-22
The Kansas Livestock Hunt is always a classic on Bowsite. If Pat's happy, so am I. My hunting ethics don’t matter to anyone but me. If it’s legal, and satisfies you, go for it.

Matt

From: Hancock West
07-Nov-22
Pat, what time were the deer moving in the morning hours? Daybreak or midmorning?

From: Zbone
07-Nov-22
NICE BUCK, way cool, many CONGRATS!!!

Even though he was scraping, he didn't seem real interested in those does, kinda make ya wonder how hard he rutting....

From: Buffalo1
07-Nov-22
Very nice bucks there- Congrats to you hunters.

Now hoping the 3rd hunter scores as well.

Tks for sharing with us.

From: Ron Niziolek
07-Nov-22
Congrats Pat!

Nice comment Grey. A$$hat.

From: Hancock West
07-Nov-22
I knew it was coming, just a matter of time.

From: Nick Muche
07-Nov-22
Grey Goatass, why even comment then? What a G Bag…

From: APauls
07-Nov-22
Congrats Pat!!! What a great buck and great shot.

From purely a logistical standpoint I’m curious how much bait a site like that would go through. There was a lot of deer plus coons and badgers! Gotta be half ways as bad as keeping a bear bait stocked! Did they say how much a spot like that goes through and how often they stock it? How did you not get busted with that many deer around did none of them go downwind? That’s gotta be hairy just thinking something could get behind you at any moment…it’s own batch of challenges. Thanks for sharing

From: Michael
07-Nov-22
Wow nice buck Pat!

Congrats!!!

From: GhostBird
08-Nov-22
Congratulations Pat... good buck.

08-Nov-22
Beautiful deer! Hope you get rid of some of these guys!

From: goelk
08-Nov-22
congrats! I really like the interaction of the racoons

From: Jethro
08-Nov-22
GG - " My hunting ethics don’t matter to anyone but me."

Just thought it was worth repeating.

Great shot Pat.

From: Hancock West
08-Nov-22
GG when your out catching those fish in the sea you really shouldn't use any bait or lures. Its just not very ethical.

From: RK
08-Nov-22
Pat

VERY nice buck ! Congratulations. Hope the last hunter is successful too

From: Ambush
08-Nov-22
Ghey Ghost, maybe it was your projection of your ethics that drove that young man you mentored out of your life. Maybe ponder that it may have been more you then him.

From: Jrhendricks
08-Nov-22
Great Buck Pat, any rumblings of CWD and EHD in that neck of the woods? I've heard other parts of Kansas are getting hit hard.

From: tobywon
08-Nov-22
Nice deer Pat, congrats. Which direction did he run?...what organs did you hit?....and how long did you wait in the tree after the shot? Just asking for a friend, a PM will suffice :)

From: Brotsky
08-Nov-22
Congrats Pat! Beauty!

From: jmiller
08-Nov-22
Nice shot! Love those raccoons getting their fill of corn too!

08-Nov-22
Great bucks!

From: Rut Nut
08-Nov-22
Very nice buck Pat! You headed back East to catch the Ohio Rut?

Once again Grey Ghost can not help himself and drops a condescending comment about baiting........................give it a rest dude! ;-)

From: Boreal
08-Nov-22
Congrats Pat! Sometimes it all just lines up!

From: Shiras42
08-Nov-22
Congrats! I love a buck with a big frame like that.

Any more pics of Matt's deer?

From: Stekewood
08-Nov-22
Beautiful buck Pat, and great shooting. Congratulations. Always enjoy following along on your Kansas hunt.

From: Stekewood
08-Nov-22
Beautiful buck Pat, and great shooting. Congratulations. Always enjoy following along on your Kansas hunt.

From: Pat Lefemine
08-Nov-22

Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Matt’s 170” buck rack
Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Matt’s 170” buck rack
Here’s Matt’s buck. It’s one of those racks where pics just don’t do it justice. The complete opposite of ‘ground shrinkage’

From: njbuck
08-Nov-22
Congrats on two great bucks Pat!

From: bigswivle
08-Nov-22
Great deer, congrats

08-Nov-22
Is that some mule deer influence there?

From: ROUGHCOUNTRY
08-Nov-22
That field pic of Matt's buck and the rack pic is mind boggling.......looks so much smaller on the body? Gnarly buck for sure!

From: tracker980
08-Nov-22
Congrats! The younger buck you saw first thing in the morning looks like it could be the offspring of Matt's buck.

From: hdaman
08-Nov-22
A couple of beautiful bucks! Congratulations on a great hunt in Kansas!

From: Lewis
08-Nov-22
Congrats to the hunters you got er done great looking bucks Lewis

From: APauls
08-Nov-22
Congrats Pat!!! What a great buck and great shot.

From purely a logistical standpoint I’m curious how much bait a site like that would go through. There was a lot of deer plus coons and badgers! Gotta be half ways as bad as keeping a bear bait stocked! Did they say how much a spot like that goes through and how often they stock it? How did you not get busted with that many deer around did none of them go downwind? That’s gotta be hairy just thinking something could get behind you at any moment…it’s own batch of challenges. Thanks for sharing

From: Smtn10PT
08-Nov-22
Congrats on the hunt!

Id have a half dozen DP traps at each bait site

From: Old School
08-Nov-22
Congrats Pat. I would’ve never guessed your buddies buck would go 170”. Pictures must not do it justice.

From: iceman
08-Nov-22
Congrats, guys! Great bucks!

08-Nov-22
Congrats on a great buck buddy!

From: Zbone
08-Nov-22
jmiller - "Nice shot! Love those raccoons getting their fill of corn too!"

I noticed the racoons too, they were setting on their butts like seating at a dinner table, reminded me of the geico raccoon commercial, best commercial ever...8^)

From: Bou’bound
08-Nov-22
its amazing how you do it year after year there! Well done.

From: devozoo
08-Nov-22
Hey guys, Matt here - the guy hunting with Pat. To be honest, I hoped my buck would go 155. I was shocked when we scored him. The mass, trash, and G1’s made all the difference in his gross score. Appreciate the encouraging comments. I have been super blessed to hunt with Pat the last five years and have learned exponentially! Wish everyone had the opportunity. I will also tell you that Rob Nye (Saskatchewan) and Kent Jarnagin are top shelf!

From: Hawkeye
08-Nov-22
Great bucks guys. Congrats!

From: APauls
09-Nov-22
Congrats Pat!!! What a great buck and great shot.

From purely a logistical standpoint I’m curious how much bait a site like that would go through. There was a lot of deer plus coons and badgers! Gotta be half ways as bad as keeping a bear bait stocked! Did they say how much a spot like that goes through and how often they stock it? How did you not get busted with that many deer around did none of them go downwind? That’s gotta be hairy just thinking something could get behind you at any moment…it’s own batch of challenges. Thanks for sharing

From: Bou'bound
09-Nov-22
Pat I believe a couple years ago you talked about them using corn not as much as an main attractant, but it’s a way to keep the deer there and get position for a good shot

These are set up in area where they would already be feeding or transitioning through.

Is that recollection accurate and if so would you say that that’s still the practice and Intent with the outfitter.

From: Beav
09-Nov-22
Congrats to you both on two great deer!

From: Groundhunter
09-Nov-22
Where's the picture?

From: Huntiam
10-Nov-22
Congrats ..I’ll agree the skull cap on the floor pics don’t do it justice if it’s a 170

From: Blood
10-Nov-22
Bou, you’re funny.

From: midwest
10-Nov-22
Beauty of a buck, Pat! Congrats to all!

From: Bou'bound
10-Nov-22
Pat I believe a couple years ago you talked about them using corn not as much as an main attractant, but it’s a way to keep the deer there and get position for a good shot

These are set up in area where they would already be feeding or transitioning through.

Is that recollection accurate and if so would you say that that’s still the practice and Intent with the outfitter.

From: CTBobcat
10-Nov-22
awesome bucks. Cant believe they come into the corn during daylight?

From: Pat Lefemine
10-Nov-22
There’s crops all around us so the bait just gives them a chance to get a quick bite before heading to the big Ag fields. It definitely improves the chances of getting a shot, but those deer are there regardless. They are probably 85% shot opportunity for PY bucks, without bait I’m sure it would be 1/2 that rate. It definitely improves success rates but we’ve all agreed, every one of us would still book that hunt even if baiting was outlawed.

From: Bou’bound
10-Nov-22
Thanks for the response. Makes total sense. They have it figured out for sure. Have it down to a science.

From: ROUGHCOUNTRY
11-Nov-22
Did the 3rd guy not get a deer?

From: Bowbender
11-Nov-22
“… but we’ve all agreed, every one of us would still book that hunt even if baiting was outlawed.”

That’s like being a billionaire and complaining you don’t pay enough federal income tax. You can always send in more $$s. Just like you can ask the outfitter not to bait.

From: bowhunt
11-Nov-22
Congratulations Pat

Great buck!

After your last hunt you were probably ready for some big buck action!

From: 12yards
11-Nov-22
Congratulations Pat! That's a beauty!

From: Rancher
17-Nov-22
Pat,so sorry for all the comments on your Kansas deer hunt.I hunted SE Kansas,and with the hot temps it was a tough hunt.I was looking forward to how your hunt played out,but i understand your not posting with all the "keyboard cowboys" comments.Cliff

From: deerhunter72
17-Nov-22
Congrats to you both! Some great bucks. We judge each other way too much on here, but I bet Pat can tune out the noise. Whatever trips your trigger is good enough for me!

From: Catscratch
17-Nov-22
Did I miss something? I saw a pic of Matt's buck (awesome deer btw!), but not Pat's buck. Several people congratulating him though.

From: t-roy
17-Nov-22
Cat…..go to Pat’s link in his first post to see his hunt on video and hero shots, as well.

From: RD in WI
17-Nov-22
Excellent shot on that buck. Congratulations on a fine deer.

From: Pat Lefemine
17-Nov-22

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Pat Lefemine's embedded Photo
Here you go. Super buck. Grossed 157 and nets 145.

I don’t care about the baiting comments. Guys are entitled to their opinions. I’ve been doing this a long time and it wouldn’t be a Kansas live hunt without the baiting remarks. ;-)

From: Mark Watkins
07-Dec-22
Congrats Gents!

Two great bucks!!

Mark

From: RJR
17-Jan-23
Awesome Bucks!! The waiting list to book a hunt Cimarron River Outfitters must be a least 20 years.

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