Trump is in the 2024 Presidential Race
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sundowner 15-Nov-22
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From: sundowner
15-Nov-22
President Donald Trump announced tonight that he will again run for President. I will send him money and vote for him if he's nominated. I hope he will pick Desantis to run as VP, even if Desantis loses to Trump in the primary. If not Desantis, perhaps Kari Lake of Arizona, or Christi Noem of South Dakota. It's possible that Desantis won't enter the primary because of his loyalty to the citizens of Florida.

How do y'all think it will pan out?

From: JohnMC
15-Nov-22
I am betting Stix is tripping on his magic mushrooms tonight.

15-Nov-22
Moron.

I’m surrounded by the Deep Blue Sea, and I know plenty of people who would take just about anybody with a pulse and a normal EEG over Biden…

As long as it ain’t Trump. Or anyone who backs him.

Once every 4 years, I have an opportunity to cast One vote that might Matter. Republican Primary.

As a life-long Indie voter turned registered Republican, I refuse to waste my Once Every Four Years Meaningful Vote on anyone I would not leave alone in a room with my mom, wife, sister, niece, or daughter, if I had one…

From: Stix
16-Nov-22

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But the question is:

Will he get to the bottom of the inside job on 9/11?

Or will he finally get to the bottom of Obama's birth certificate?

From: Norseman
16-Nov-22
Who are you endorsing, Styx? Just so we have it on record. Thanks

From: Stix
16-Nov-22
Hopefully Desantis, Pence, or Noem makes a run. If orange tin foil man or conspiracy tin foil lake is the nominee, I'll vote constitution party or libertarian like last election. Unfortuately the D's are welcoming his running. More of a chance they'll win the trifecta of Pres, Senate, & House JUST LIKE DURING ORANGE MAN'S LAST RUN. HA HA

16-Nov-22
Dems having control of the Presidency and Congress never struck me as funny. It's actually been awful.

From: Stix
16-Nov-22
If orange man is nominated, it will happed AGAIN. Sad to say but the joke is on the trumpettes.

16-Nov-22
Maybe. If his Republican opponents plan is mocking him and his support base, it's likely a losing path as well.

From: DanaC
16-Nov-22
Just think, in six years we may have another two miles of wall on the Mexican border >:-)

From: shade mt
16-Nov-22
I never really cared for Trump, or his personality. But i'm also not blind or stupid, or naive.

Was he a better president than what we have now? of course.

I get a kick out of the tin foil comments directed at the Trump supporters, i got to wonder, what part of highest inflation in 40 yrs...high gas prices....woke mentality, and all the nonsense do these people not understand?...if anyone is wearing a tin foil hat, it surely must be those supporting this democrat nonsense.

Like him or hate him.....Ya gotta admit Trump would be far better than what we currently have.

From: BULELK1
16-Nov-22
Pence & Chainey 2024!

Good luck, Robb

From: timex
16-Nov-22
The """((((DRAMA))))""" associated with trump is imo not a good thing for this country. Simply put the man is TOXIC....... That said I will be voting for whomever the republican nominee happens to be ...

From: 2Wild Bill
16-Nov-22
Stix,

" I'll vote constitution party or libertarian like last election."

Talk about tin hat supporters and then vote libertarian? That is without question stupidity on display. Your vote counted for N O T H I N G! To come on Bowsite and spew hatred for your percieved enemy isn't Christlike for the Christian you profess to be. Dude, repent. Praying for Donald Trump like Nancy Pelosi does isn't a commendable thing, it speaks of self-righteousness.

From: DanaC
16-Nov-22
B ill, wadr, voting 3rd party counts as a shot across the bows of the big 2. Feel free to disagree but I prefer to say my piece, which is straight out of 'Romeo and Juliet' - "A plague o' both your houses!"

From: lineman21
16-Nov-22
I’m a pretty hardcore conservative. I liked Trumps policies when he was in office. That said, I’m voting for Desantis or someone else if Desantis doesn’t run. I feel, at this point, we have no chance at winning with Trump as the nominee. He is just too divisive. Yeah, I liked him as our president but if we want to win in two years we need to rally behind our best chance and it isn’t Trump (in my opinion of course).

From: spike78
16-Nov-22
Linemanx2

From: Will tell
16-Nov-22
If the Republican’s want to win in 24 they need to run Paul Ryan or ex Ohio Gov. Kasish. The only way either party can win is to get the Independents behind them. Too far right or too far left and your not going to get the votes.

From: Teeton
16-Nov-22
I would love to know what McConnell and the rest of the Republican politicians are saying/thinking about this???

From: timex
16-Nov-22
Their thinking the same as most the country at this point. They wish the man would just go away.

From: shade mt
16-Nov-22
If it came down to having to vote for Trump or more nonsense, obviously id vote for Trump.

Lets face it....We now have a man that sometimes struggles to make a understandable speech. I knew he'd be a disaster, yet people still voted for him. I can't figure it, just like i cannot fathom how fetterman won here in PA ?....Right now this country is being run by Big city, populated liberal nonsense....That is where most of this stuff is coming from.

Not sure what we can do about that at this point, but i'm afraid Trump isn't it. I would wholeheartedly support his policies, i just think with all the mudslinging, and media bashing, and all the stuff the democrats keep trying to bust him with, he just won't win.

It is going to be hard to repair this country regardless. Vote in another democrat, and we are surely doomed.

From: Woody
16-Nov-22
My biggest fear is that Trump loses the republican primary and then decides to run as an independent. He was a great president, but is toxic and doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell to get reelected.

From: RonP
16-Nov-22
after what took place the last two elections, i am surprised at some of the candidates suggested here.

the country is left of center and if not, enough people can be persuaded to vote that way. it takes a lot to overcome that. gas prices could be $8/gallon, a loaf of bread $10, and trump, pence, desantis, noem, etc. would still have no chance in a general election.

there may be enough voters for trump to win the nomination, but despite what some say, no one is afraid of him and he has zero chance of becoming potus again. if you're honest with yourself, you'll acknowledge his communication and ability to put together two sentences is at best, the same level as biden and fetterman.

two that come to mind that may have a chance if they could win the primary are tim scott and nikki haley.

From: 2Wild Bill
16-Nov-22
Shade, Democrats have always helped pick Republican candidates like Romney and McCain.

"he just won't win" = the half empty glass He beat Hillary = the glass half full His Presidency shook up the business as usual in Washington = full glass overflowing

It was the deep state at risk of being dismantled that took down Nixon. Nixon won his second term in a landslide because of his efforts to reduce the size of the administrative state(aka drain the swamp to this generation). The enemy within our government who has no interest in answering to the people and thrives on strong central governmental control(the heart of socialism).

The lie is, Democrats have what is good for America in their hearts, while they line their pockets with money provided by the enemies of American values and American taxpayers.

The solution to the biggest of America's problems is an Article V, Convention of States. When the people of America apply the Constitutional remedy for tyranny it will work. Don't believe that? No surprise here. Well over half the readers of this thread cannot, off the top of their heads, name the five freedoms found in the 1ST Amemdment(Bill of Rights).

Every member of the State ought diligently to read and to study the constitution of his country, and teach the rising generation to be free. By knowing their rights, they will sooner perceive when they are violated, and be the better prepared to defend and assert them. - John Jay, first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court

From: Bowbender
16-Nov-22
Considering the direction of the country...crime, inflation, doormat of the world... The repubs shoulda handed the dems their asses in every race. No, instead here in PA we elected a man that can't string three words together to form a sentence. Ya, he's got a disability. A congnitive one. Ain't fit. Part of an admin that destroyed jobs, set kids education back, put COVID patients back in nursing homes (70% of PA's death toll was nursing homes), ran as Lt Gov because that position is head of parole board. He's on record as wanting to release, RELEASE those convicted of murder. And still PA elected him. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

No, Trump will never be president again. Ever. I voted for him. Twice. And if anyone thinks the country is better now than 2019, well, as Mason said in "The Rock" I think you're a ****ing idiot. Still as mentioned, he's toxic, he's own worst enemy,... if he IS the candidate I will vote for him.

I look at this past election and compare it to the 1994 election. It was even on Nov 8. Went to bed that night knowing the repubs took the House. Woke up the next morning to hear they took the Senate as well. The NEXT day. Here we are over a week after the election, races still undecided. Why is that? Still "counting" ballots?

From: soccern23ny
16-Nov-22
Voting aside, I cant fathom giving money to someone(a millionaire no less) who has grifted so many people so many times. From his bankrupt businesses, refusal to pay contractors, to literal scams he/his hand picked men have been caught in, it's mind blowing people send this guy money.

From: fuzzy
16-Nov-22
Well shit

From: Brotsky
16-Nov-22
"Trump is in the Presidential race"

No, he's not....and the sooner we make him realize it, the sooner we can elect another Rep President.

From: Chuckster
16-Nov-22
I think DeSantis will be the nominee with AZ Gov Doug Ducey as his VP. Alot of people like Trumps policies but they don't want the drama and chaos.

From: Matte
16-Nov-22
Bottom line is we need a younger more invigorating candidate to energize the country. Maybe even someone who is not even in the news circles as of now. Trump had his shot, had some great policies but in the end was to toxic for most of America. Time see the sunset and look for a new sunrise.

From: fdp
16-Nov-22
Best thing that could possibly have happened for the Democratic and Libertarian parties. They are all doing back flips in the streets.

More so if by some type of cosmic intervention he were to get the nomination.

The only fear being what some of the radical morons that support him might think they need to do to further his cause. Like kidnap governor's of states he can't win, try to take over government buildings and so on.

From: fuzzy
16-Nov-22
Matte, Ben Shapiro. Articulate grounded, intelligent, logical, conservative.

From: BowSniper
16-Nov-22
Listening to the Trump speech last night, my first thought was that DeSantis would be saying the same things on same issues.... more clearly, with 1/4 the words.

From: 70lbDraw
16-Nov-22
“Like kidnap governor's of states he can't win, try to take over government buildings and so on.”

Or burn down police stations and neighborhoods, loot stores owned by hard working Americans, ambush and assassinate police officers, vandalize statues and businesses…etc, etc, etc.

Funny how it goes both ways ain’t it?!!!

From: bigswivle
16-Nov-22
I’ll take trumps four years 100X over what we’ve gone through the last two years with these idiots.

From: 12yards
16-Nov-22
Conservative against Trump here. Want him to go away. Don't think he can win.

16-Nov-22
Interesting how some will down play president trump, but the fact is they won’t downplay our current president and the one before him which both put together didn’t do the job of president trump? Is that not true? Don’t the record speak for its self … Obambiden together never were for the American people, Iran was first for the one and China is first for the other, at least trump put Americans first! Is he a perfect man, no one is, is he better than what America has had and currently has with last few in office? Certainly!

From: Franklin
16-Nov-22
The people are sick and tired of the feckless establishment GOP and RNC. They had two years to prepare for this election and did nothing to counteract Democrat election tactics.

Republicans need to understand that the bulk of the party IS Trump supporters.....not McConnell, Paul Ryan, Ducey, Christie or Romney supporters.....to even mention those names as being serious candidates is out of touch with reality.

If someone jumps the line and was to get the nod in a primary, the America First supporters would stay home in the general election, and they wouldn't win anyway.

Conservatives are done with the DC Uni-Party and like it or not, it's Trump's party. Your best bet is to ride the wave until he is out of politics because you won't beat his supporters.

From: Brotsky
16-Nov-22
LMAO Franklin!!! The Democrats have been crushing Trump and his supporters for the last 4 years. Mid-terms, Presidential, and now mid-terms again. He is a joke! DeSantis for this guy.

From: APauls
16-Nov-22
Hoping Trump will win is like hoping that mature buck you see 300 yards downwind will come to your rattling antlers downwind the entire time. While it is what you want, and it is good for you, and theoretically and physically it is possible......

From: TGbow
16-Nov-22
Last week I voted Libertarian mostly, I did vote for a couple Republicans.

I've voted for a few Dems in the past but they weren't leftist. If I can help it, I won't vote for a leftist or a Neocon..and those 2 I just described make up most of the 2 major parties we have in DC

From: fdp
16-Nov-22
"Funny how it goes both ways ain’t it?!!!"....nope not funny at all. But doesn't change a single solitary thing. People have their heads out of their hero's butts and realize that something probably doesn't exist with any politician from either party that is in the lime light now.

Trump and or any other Republican. democratic, or Libertarian administration couldn't do one single thing differently to affect the economy or most of the other problems that we have. And to pretend otherwise is nothing but hero worship.

From: woodguy65
16-Nov-22

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From: 2Wild Bill
16-Nov-22
Woodguy65,

That ticket has the vote of all the guys on this site that have "anybody but Trump" sickness.

From: Shaft2Long
16-Nov-22
NO WAY DeSantis gets on that. He either runs against Trump or just hangs out in Florida for 4 more years.

From: Will
16-Nov-22
Its going to be interesting to see if Republican's find some leaders willing to toe the line against the guy. I dont think he wins in 24, especially not with the way the younger folks turned out this current cycle. They are pretty excited to see him NOT elected nor others like him. But what R's would run given the fear they have of losing the "base". He immediately insults and ridicules anyone who may run against him as soon as a sniff of their interest in the job surfaces, so are there any "leaders" in the R party who would be willing to take it on?

Last cycle I had a few thoughts come to mind. Now Ive got nothing. I could see Liz Cheney doing it. She'd never win the support - weird given policy wise almost no one was more in his camp in terms of voting record when he was president. But I just dont see any R's that seem able to either deflect the wrath or show their value beyond the noise he will make. It will be interesting.

From: LUNG$HOT
16-Nov-22
Yeah I don’t see a Trump/Desantis ticket happening ever. Both are strong A-type personalities which don’t jive well together. I loved Trump as President. Loved his policy, how he exposed the media for who they are today, etc… but the bottom line is that in order to win this thing he needs the support of the independent and moderate voters and he needs the support of the entire R party not just his base. If he is indeed the R candidate he’s got my vote but it’s time to face the truth. Trump does not have the support he needs for re-election. I hope Desantis runs and gets the nod for all of our sake. We need someone who can win. This midterm was the litmus test and it ain’t in Trumps favor from what I see. We should have crushed the Dems but didn’t happen.

From: Mint
16-Nov-22
It's why we have a primary to see who will rise to the top. I'm not counting Trump out just yet. His speech was a good one and if he keeps focused he could win the primary and the presidency. Two years is a long time in politics.

I don't blame trump for the midterms, we were out spent by the democrats especially at the candidate level where it matters most. In addition the redistricting killed us, an analysis revealed if we had the same redistricting as 2020 we would have picked up 20 house seats. How did the republicans let that happen? The old school republicans better wake up and that includes Trump on early voting and ballot harvesting where legal. As far as young voters showing up they got played by Biden since the student loan forgiveness was clearly unconstitutional.

From: TGbow
16-Nov-22
The one thing they all could do different that would effect the economy is to get out of the way..quit ver regulating , over taxing, ect.

The economy would take care of itself

From: goelk
16-Nov-22
How about Liz Cheney as his running mate!! LOL

From: bigswivle
16-Nov-22
I don’t want desantis to run until his term as governor is up but I think he’s the only one that has a shot to beat trump.

From: 2Wild Bill
16-Nov-22
"How did the republicans let that happen, redistricting that is,? " - Tip O'Neill, “All politics are local”.

"As far as young voters showing up they got played by Biden" - Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Rush called them mush heads for a reason.

From: 7mm08
16-Nov-22
Trump was a great president and I would love to see him at it again but I think the media has succeeded in demonizing him, thus I believe it would be detrimental to have him on the ticket. Desantis would be my choice for candidate... with Kari or Kristi as VP.

From: LUNG$HOT
16-Nov-22
DeSantis/Gabbard 2024!

Ok let me have it! Glutton for punishment. ;-)

From: SteveB
16-Nov-22
Trump just can't win. Primary maybe....presidency not a chance. And his ego is big enough that if he gets primaried and loses, he will run Independent and kill the election.

Why cant he just go away? I cant imagine spending?wasting the last of my years fighting like he's going to be fighting. His own daughter won't even support him this time.

From: Brotsky
16-Nov-22
"Kristi as VP"

No. She has an absolute pile of skeletons in her closet that the mainstream media can't wait to expose. Everyone likes her from afar....but when you live here you see the problems she will have at the national level. We need to win. Kristi won't help.

I like DeSantis/Gabbard! Sounds like a winner!

From: BowSniper
16-Nov-22
Gabbard is 90% liberal democrat, and THEY don't even like her. She doesn't belong on our ticket.

16-Nov-22
2000mules.com a must watch.

From: fdp
16-Nov-22
"Dems declaring DJ Trump an Insurrectionist by a floor vote. " Congress can't even do that.

From: Matt
16-Nov-22
In the unlikely case that Trump wins the republican nomination, we would be essentially gifting Biden 4 more years as president.

From: Stix
16-Nov-22
trumpettes: orange lord, orange lord, where for out there orange lord?

Orange lord: Hey trumpettes, interested in buying some swampland in mar-a-lago?

trumpettes: Of course orange lord, we'll do anything for you,...anything

Middle America: You gotta be kidding me. When are they ever gonna learn?

From: Brotsky
16-Nov-22
Dix, any chance we could get a new meme or two? It's like you're not even trying anymore. Come on man!

From: HDE
16-Nov-22
Had the media done their real job between 2016-2020, we'd be having an entirely different discussion right now...

From: fdp
16-Nov-22
"Oh they can and will. "...no they can't and won't. Insurrection (which has a VERY clear legal definition) for purposes of the 14th Amendment is a Federal offense. That being the case he would have to be tried and found guilty in a Federal court. What happens at the State level has no bearing on Federal law. Neither the Department of Justice nor the Supreme Court would let that stand and they shouldn't. And I'm not even a Trump fan.

Now...if he is prosecuted and found guilty of insurrection at the Federal level (which isn't likely) then it COULD happen. It's only Liz and the Democrats because Mitch and Kevin let it be that way. Blame them.

Quit trying to promote nonsense.

From: sundowner
16-Nov-22
What exactly do you anti Trump people have to hate him for? What have you got against:

Respect for the US among allies and enemies. Trade deals that benefit US citizens. Lowest unemployment in history among all categories. Record high stock market. Low interest rates. Booming housing market. Booming small business. Increased wages. Reasonable fuel prices. US energy independence. Fair tariffs on Chinese imports. Reduced federal regulations on business. Wall construction at southwest border reducing illegal immigrant invasion. Conservative federal judges and SCOTUS justices. General optimism and patriotism among the populace.

All these are good things and good conditions brought about by Trump's policies. Personally, I can tolerate a few human personality flaws to get the good this man did for the country. After all, aren't we all flawed to some degree?

From: fdp
16-Nov-22
Sundowner.....the problem is that the majority of the things that you named have -0- to do with who was president. They are just simply things that happened. The wall was never completed, I know I live down here. The curbing of illegal immigration was a very good thing. The unemployment rate NOW is virtually the same as it was during the Trump administration and on and on. He now any other president has any influence over the stock market, or real estate prices. Particularly so for someone who was only in office 4 years.

So the flip side of your question "aren't we all flawed to some degree?" would be what do the "Biden haters" have against Biden?

From: 12yards
16-Nov-22
sundowner, because I think we can get an actual adult to bring about the same thing.

From: sundowner
16-Nov-22
"Sundowner.....the problem is that the majority of the things that you named have -0- to do with who was president. They are just simply things that happened. "

Yeah, I guess the shutting down of XL pipeline just happened. And the Afghanistan debacle just happened. $5.75/gal diesel fuel, 8.5% yearly inflation just happened. Right? Name one thing Biden has done that hasn't turned to sh#t, or caused more trouble in the lives of the American people.

From: sundowner
16-Nov-22
The wall wasn't completed because Trump was not re-elected.......for whatever reason.

From: sundowner
16-Nov-22
12yards, do you think the current potus is a functioning adult?

16-Nov-22
ready to move on from trump but without a seconds hesitation would vote for him if he is nominated. for those of you who keep saying trump is too toxic, is it him that is toxic or is it those who attacked him relentlessly every single day since the day he announced he was running that are toxic? chicken...egg.

From: Matt
16-Nov-22

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For the meme-lovers.

From: Matt
16-Nov-22
Ricky, my take is that Trump is a $#!+ human being. He has demonstrated a willingness to be dishonest with the American people and to govern with his primary concern being his own ego. The Republican Party can and should do better.

I generally liked his platform, but agree with 12yards that we can find a candidate who will drive the similar policies AND act like an adult while doing it.

fdp nailed it that most of the data points that many cite to justify Trump’s success (e.g. low unemployment/interest rates/inflation/gas prices) really having little to nothing to do with his policy decisions.

From: 12yards
16-Nov-22
sundowner, no. But that doesn't make Trump a functioning adult. Right?

From: jjs
16-Nov-22
I do not care if Trump is wearing diapers as long as his policies are working for America. Cannot wrap my mind around that people voted Democrat for these policies that we have now, please explain what is working.

From: fdp
16-Nov-22
"FDP you are incorrect.".....nope.....I'm not.

"Name one thing Biden has done that hasn't turned to sh#t, or caused more trouble in the lives of the American people." he hasn't DONE anything that has turned to dookey in my hands. I'm not crazy about the border situation. But he doesn't control inflation, high gas prices or shortages of goods and supplies any more than any other President can. UNLESS they become an Authoritarian Dictator.

Biden didn't create inflation. It's something that happens in economies. And our inflation rate is a lot better than the rates of some other major economies around the world. He doesn't create global supply issues either.

From: sundowner
16-Nov-22
jjs: "I do not care if Trump is wearing diapers as long as his policies are working for America."

That's right!

From: Norseman
16-Nov-22
“Biden didn't create inflation. It's something that happens in economies”

HahahahahahahahahHhHhHaahahahahahahahahahahahah That is f’n funny

16-Nov-22
"Ricky, my take is that Trump is a $#!+ human being. He has demonstrated a willingness to be dishonest with the American people..."

is biden any less of shit human being? is obama any less of shit human being? at the end of the day it's about policy, not personality. do you want to vote for a shit human being who advocates for policies you agree with a shit human being that advocates for policies that you disagree with. when you get to the general election, thats what its all about.

16-Nov-22
Trump running essentially guarantees the democrats will win presidency.

From: Stix
16-Nov-22
We got to knock them out at the primaries otherwise 2024 will be a repeat of 2022. But much worse. Lose the house and the Senate then the D's will have a trifecta

From: Beendare
16-Nov-22
I would support Desantis....I don't think Trump is electable...and if he splits the vote, we will end up with a Newsome who has wrecked everything he touched.

From: sundowner
16-Nov-22
If Biden can't control fuel prices nor inflation, why does he take credit when there is a reported slight improvement in either?

From: gflight
16-Nov-22
"Gabbard is 90% liberal democrat, and THEY don't even like her. She doesn't belong on our ticket."

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She is liberal not leftist, that is why today's democrats dont like her.

A patriot that believes in the Constitution like her would make a great VP in my book.

Of course Trump/ Gabbard will never happen so I will settle for whoever he chooses in 2024.....

From: sundowner
16-Nov-22
gflight: "Of course Trump/ Gabbard will never happen so I will settle for whoever he chooses in 2024....."

Me too.

From: gflight
16-Nov-22
"The swamp’s hatred of Trump is not merely based on the fact he governed well. He embarrassed them by making it look easy! He made deals in minutes that those professional clowns could never get done in years. They vowed never to let a guy like this near the levers of power again!"

Why would a Trump hater like me promote him in 2024?

I can't believe so many of you believe the media narrative after all that's happened.

The Dems elected a senile fool and tell you that you shouldn't vote for toxic Trump and you agree. Wow.....

From: Stix
16-Nov-22
I don't watch 'the media'. I got common sense and can see for myself the truth. Just like Arizona did in 2022, and the nation in 2020.

16-Nov-22
If anyone here thinks the Republican Party is going to nominate a candidate besides Trump, that is going to capture the young vote, they are insane. It isn’t going to happen. The only Republican president that has ever did a decent job of that was Trump.

If anyone here truly believes that any Republican candidate running a conservative platform besides a Trump is going to be elected president, they are insane. It’s hasn’t happened in 30 years. And, will never happen again.

There are far too many illegal votes, mail in ballots, early voting, uniformed voters, and lied to and mislead voters for a conservative president besides a Trump like candidate to ever get elected.

I keep hearing about the moderate, the fringes of either party ruling, etc…. I want to know how running a moderate campaign is the key to success. Unless you’ve been under a rock for the half century, that hasn’t happened. Is 2024 going to be different?

The sad reality is outside a populist candidate with conservative values and a conservative platform, this country will never see a conservative president again.

This country is basically divided down the middle. It’s been common knowledge that’s the case since Mitt Romney said it. And politics isn’t friendly to the common fish. Offering something that isn’t isn’t flashy and doesn’t spur support in any way by the Republican Party isn’t the answer. The media will direct bias coverage and program the average American voter to go democrat. It’s what’s been happening and what will continue to happen to any moderate Republican.

Yet all the political gurus keep saying that isn’t the case. Right along with the defeated, sold out, mundane, spineless Republican Party. How’s that going for the “conservative platform” over the last 5 elections? Not well from my seat. But, maybe your seat is different. So, tell me what I’m missing.

Basically, how is promoting the same course which has failed miserably, suddenly going to result in a different outcome?

I don’t know but, with half the votes in this country divided down the party lines, how do we support another blah, middle of the road Republican as the answer? It ain’t worked for a long time and it isn’t going to work in 2024 either.

I agree, Trump is hard to listen to at times. And, he maybe he is dead in the running. But, it’s the division among supposed conservatives causing this uncertainty. And, it’s your beloved Republican Party causing it. Not Trump.

From: BTM
16-Nov-22
"In the unlikely case that Trump wins the republican nomination, we would be essentially gifting Biden 4 more years as president."

"Trump running essentially guarantees the democrats will win presidency."

Sad but true.

From: Tilzbow
16-Nov-22
Other than Kari Lake I think every republican that lost a close election has conceded. IMO that says something about the party trying to distance itself from Trump. I personally hope we select a better candidate than Trump and it could end up being someone no one is talking about at the moment, or not.

From: sundowner
16-Nov-22
"I personally hope we select a better candidate than Trump"

There is not now, and there will not be a better Republican candidate than Trump, nor a more effective US President. Name a president since WWII who accomplished half as much as Trump. And, as stated elsewhere, he made it look easy. And......he did it in less than 4 years. On the other hand, it has only taken 19 months for Biden, Shumer, and Pelosi to tear it all down. I guess they're better at destruction than Trump is at construction.

16-Nov-22
I get the feeling that after the media and the Democrats put the smear machine in overdrive against DeSantis, many here will abandon him.

Trump was fine. The nonstop attacks and inability for many to realize that dumping him for a better personality resulted in a crappy President with just as many character flaws. I like DeSantis so far but he will be villanized, impeached, and put through the wringer by the left as well. It won't change my opinion of him but obviously for many it will.

From: Grey Ghost
16-Nov-22
” If he runs, he runs,” Mr. Trump said. But he added: “If he did run, I will tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering. I know more about him than anybody other than perhaps his wife, who is really running his campaign.”

It sounds like the blue team and media won’t be the only teams trying to smear DeSantis.

Matt

From: Matt
16-Nov-22
"is biden any less of shit human being? is obama any less of shit human being?"

Both in my estimation are far better/more ethical people than Trump, and I am surprised you think it is even a question. I don't care for either's politics, but neither seems to be nearly as despicable a person as Donald Trump.

"There is not now, and there will not be a better Republican candidate than Trump, nor a more effective US President."

God help us if that is true, because the republican party would be beyond screwed.

"I get the feeling that after the media and the Democrats put the smear machine in overdrive against DeSantis, many here will abandon him."

Trump didn't need the democrats or the media to ruin his reputation, he did a fine job all on his own. He is such a narcissist, I don't think he couldn't help himself. I doubt DeSantis would be so stupid.

16-Nov-22
No doubt and the media will amplify it. I'm sure DeSantis will go after Trump as well if they run against each other.

The difference is that Kamala can call Biden a racist and sexual predator during a primary and and the media drops it.

The Democrat plan for winning is Orange Man Bad. I won't help them with that narrative or with Tan Man Bad if DeSantis becomes the target.

From: Stix
16-Nov-22
Sundowner, try Ronald Reagan.

16-Nov-22
During the 2024 election If nothing changes and Desantis gets the nomination, The democrats will smear him to the point few libertarians and a bunch of republicans will not support him. And, we will get another democrat president as the results.

Leading upto the nomination of the Republican candidate, media coverage will purposely favor and lightly promote the Republican candidate that stands the least chance of beating the democrat nominee. In a hope the morons making up the Republican Party will vote another candidate besides the Trump like DeSantis. All while over driving anything that will smear DeSantis. So, No matter who the GOP produces, the trough fed, broke back moderate Republican voter will fall right inline and cast their losing vote. Pity partying that was the only choice they had. And we will still have another democrat president in 2024.

These occurrences aren’t a coincidence. And, it leaves many options of attack for the democrat party. Which is a well oiled, turbo charged campaign machine. Yet, in all its flaws and pathetic campaigning by the Republican Party, these failures will still be blamed on Trump.

From: sundowner
16-Nov-22
I think Reagan was one of the greatest Presidents in modern history. But he had 8 years in office. Trump accomplished things people thought impossible in 4 years. Not the least of which was nominating and confirming 3 conservative supreme court justices. God bless Donald Trump.

16-Nov-22
WV:

I expect Mike Pence will be the media darling this time around. Then if he wins the primary the knives come out and in the end we chalk up another McCain, Romney cycle.

From: Matt
17-Nov-22

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"Leading upto the nomination of the Republican candidate, media coverage will purposely favor and lightly promote the Republican candidate that stands the least chance of beating the democrat nominee. In a hope the morons making up the Republican Party will vote another candidate besides the Trump..."

The democrats did just that in the mid-terms, and even funded the campaigns of a number of republicans who they believed their candidates would beat. Most were Trump-endorsed, and the strategy worked quite well.

You do realize you are arguing against yourself here? On second thought, I retract the question because you probably don't.

From: Shuteye
17-Nov-22
Donald Trump will get the nomination. No republican can beat him .Investigated for six years and he is still standing Nearly all TV shows, news papers and radio shows hate him. Had the most beautiful First Lady ever and didn't make a magazine cover. I know I was a lot better off when he was president and I would gladly vote for him again. BTW watch 2000 Mules. Oh, BTW, in the vote a week ago, the Republicans got 5 million more votes than the democrats. It's not who votes, it's who counts the votes.

From: shade mt
17-Nov-22
bicker all you want.......but years ago, your forefathers would have been kicking butt long already. The problem with this country right now is we have to many people that have no backbone, no sense of moral right and wrong, and the attitude "the Gov't owes me". Its a me first, i'll freaking run you over on the freeway if you don't get out of my way, i don't care if the speed limit is 65 i want to go 80.....its oh my , COVID fear, shut everything down mask up "lions and tigers and bears oh my".... I don't care long as i can kill my baby, and pick which bathroom i want to use, and have my dope be legal. And don't hurt my wittle feelings, or i might burn your store down.....yea we all "gotta love."....until ya disagree with them, then the real hate surfaces.

We will control the media, your work, your homes and your children, and you will follow along like good little sheep.

Big city voters, run the show. ....The breadbaskets of the world, controlled by row housing, and crime infested streets.......

Freedom? even the democrats use the word. But the realization is their kind of freedom is...your free to join our circus, but your not free to disagree, just shut up and follow along.

17-Nov-22
"Both in my estimation are far better/more ethical people than Trump, and I am surprised you think it is even a question."

i think youre being extremely naive...just plain partisan... or completely dishonest yourself. neither biden nor obama are any more or less ethical than trump...the only difference is that they have not been subjected to the media colonoscopy that trump has had to endure...and they have both had an entire mainstream media complex running cover for them. trump is a boisterous ny city blowhard no doubt... but he is choirboy compared to both in terms of political lies and corruption...and they are all mother teresas compared to the clintons.

17-Nov-22
Does it matter since Trump will be in prison soon for having documents at Maralago? Oh wait that seems to have fallen off the radar? Why would that be? Hint: the Dems midterm strategy will carry over to 2024.

From: DanaC
17-Nov-22

DanaC's Link
Just because things have 'fallen off the radar' doesn't mean they're over. Trump has at least 4 major legal fights going. Plus the House is still looking at his tax records.

From: sundowner
17-Nov-22
The thing that concerns me most right now is what the radical leftist dems in the lame duck house will do in their last desperate days before losing power. And the Senate dems, no less radical, will rubber stamp anything they do. Dangerous times.

From: gflight
17-Nov-22
Picked up more black votes, picked up more Hispanic votes, picked up more younger voters but unelectable?

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Why put so much effort to impeach, investigate if he is not a threat?

Keep believing the media and acting like Joe grabbing, restraining, and sniffing little children against their will is not sexual harassment and pedophilia.

At least Trump is grabbing most of you adults by the p****...

Trump 24'

From: bigswivle
17-Nov-22

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From: 70lbDraw
17-Nov-22
“Just because things have 'fallen off the radar' doesn't mean they're over.”

You won’t hear much about Trump until things start shaping up for the 2024 election. The left is making a new list and checking it twice. The new false accusations will flow free and plentiful. They’ll only hound him when he starts to interrupt their quest for power.

"Both in my estimation are far better/more ethical people than Trump, and I am surprised you think it is even a question."

The media painted Obama as a young, good looking, charismatic, fresh face, that would take the Democratic Party to great new levels. He fooled the masses with his pretty smile and smooth talk. But make no mistake, he’s a master at hiding his evil side when it comes to being the swamp master.

If Trump is as big of a criminal as people are being led to believe, why would he even be qualified to run for president again? Supposedly he’s a traitor, a rapist, killed people and democracy on J6, heck, I’m surprised they haven’t accused him of hiring Paul Pelosi attacker. Yet there is currently no proof of anything that disqualifies him from potentially becoming the president of the United States again. So how does that work?

From: DanaC
17-Nov-22
"Yet there is currently no proof of anything that disqualifies him from potentially becoming the president of the United States again. So how does that work? "

Trump has a team of lawyers throwing every possible delay at every investigation into his business. (6 years and Congress *still* doesn't have his tax returns.) That's all going to end soon.

From: RK
17-Nov-22
Define “soon”

From: Catscratch
17-Nov-22
Biden fired 10,000 workers in the first week of office with no remorse. Killed a bunch of people with Afghanistan with no remorse. Has created an economy that is making tons of people suffer extensively with no remorse. He is pushing gun controls that don't save people instead of seeking policies that actually help. He has zero empathy for the people under him and has made a career of hurting people. Not a single person he's killed or hurt was for the betterment of anyone. Not saying other's aren't despicable and immoral, but biden certainly is.

17-Nov-22
Can you imagine if Biden got a minuscule amount of the scrutiny from the Media, FBI, IRS, local and federal prosecutors. As Trump has gotten for 6 straight years?

Biden can’t handle one semi critical question without getting ugly.

From: Stix
17-Nov-22

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From: KSflatlander
17-Nov-22
Hey Catscratch, do you have sources for these claims or was that just a "rant" as you call it?

From: Catscratch
17-Nov-22
Lol, touche! I have to admit that was a good one.

It was a rant for sure. I didn't provide a link or cite a source so take it or leave it for what it's worth, a grain of salt type of thing. Anyway, nice one I got a chuckle!

From: KSflatlander
17-Nov-22
Ahhhh, you’re right I was just pulling your chain. I’m glad you seen the humor because that was the intent.

Good luck this season.

From: Catscratch
17-Nov-22
Thanks! It's hard to read inflection so ya never quite know. You too!

From: 70lbDraw
17-Nov-22
“Hey Catscratch, do you have sources for these claims or was that just a "rant" as you call it?”

He said 10,000 jobs lost. It was actually 11,000. But who’s counting. All you have to do is type in Keystone job losses.

From: KSflatlander
17-Nov-22
No actually 70lbs he said “fired.”

From: 70lbDraw
17-Nov-22
No actually 70lbs he said “fired.”

Oh…well that’s different. My bad!

From: KSflatlander
17-Nov-22
Ok let’s say he lost 11,000 jobs for argument sake. How many jobs have been gained since he took office? The job thing is pretty lame and doesn’t hold water as it’s not in his direct control…along with gas prices and inflation.

From: petedrummond
17-Nov-22

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From: Stix
17-Nov-22

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17-Nov-22

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18-Nov-22
"The job thing is pretty lame and doesn’t hold water as it’s not in his direct control…"

any job lost when the keystone pipeline was shut down was absolutely under bidens direct control. any job lost as a result of a vaccine mandate was absolutely under bidens direct control.

18-Nov-22
Trump 2024…let’s make it happen again!

From: TGbow
19-Nov-22
To say that Biden had nothing to do with the rise in fuel prices is just not true.

Most people knew what would happen when the pipeline was shut down..not hard to figure out.

No, you can't blame everything on Biden but regardless of what the media says Biden has done a good job carrying on the leftist agenda. Too bad the Republicans ain't got a backbone. Unfortunately, somebody votes for these leftist and Neocons.

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