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Impeachment of Joe Biden
How long will it take into the new congressional term? A week?
Republicans will do nothing. We elect them then they forget their balls at the podium after their acceptance speech.
Jim beat me to it. Republicans won’t do Jack. They’ve done nothing in the last 14 years. Why start now?!
Sometimes I think some of them rep. Are Dem.
Won’t happen. They will be too busy spiking the football for their tiny seat at the table.
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Impeach him for what, specifically?
Already been there and tried that once, so far.
H.Res.57 - Impeaching Joseph R. Biden, President of the United States, for abuse of power by enabling bribery and other high crimes and misdemeanors.
It was introduced to the House on 1/21/21. Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary the same day. Referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties on 3/5/21. No further actions since.
“Impeach him for what, specifically?”
We’ll have more information on that if the Hunter investigation ever gets under way.
Impeach him for what? Likely selling access and favors to foreign governments the same way they tried to impeach Trump (via the Biden family payoffs from Ukraine and China)
And failing to secure and defend the border of the United States of America.
High crimes and misdemeanors is pretty broad. I’m sure the newly lead R congress could find something that fits the bill. Bowsniper came up with a good one. But as we seems while Trump was impeached but not convicted in the Senate. Sadly these days impeachment a conviction is totally partisan. People just don’t do the right thing anymore and are enveloped in tribalism.
Personally, the afghan withdrawal debacle could qualify since he is the commander in chief.
"the same way they tried to impeach Trump"....they didn't try, they did twice. He just wasn't convicted.
Rofl. I was waiting for the hunter part. You guys are jokes. Love how hunter lives rent free in your heads. I mean isnt what your complaining about with hunter have happened before biden was president?
If our justice system is doing it's job (I know, I'm not holding my breath), but if they do their job, Hunter & "The Big Guy" should be doing time in prison. If it was you or me doing what they did/do you know we would already be locked up.
^^^^^^Yep^^^^^^. Not to mention the fact that he isn't a government official and never has been, so the Congress probably doesn't have any legal precedent to investigate him any way.
"...they did twice. He just wasn't convicted."
And clearly mockery of its purpose. It was the most idiotic display of Congressional authority in probably ever...
Actually it wasn't. To have read the transcript or listened to the recording of the call that was the basis for the first impeachment and make the claim that it was mockery of the purpose can only mean one of 2 things. That the person reading the transcript or listening to the recording has no understanding of the use of words, or they are just turning a blind eye to something that their hero did.
The Hunter stuff goes back to when Biden was acting VP, when Joe demanded Ukraine fire the prosecutor who happened to be investigating the company that was paying Hunter millions, or Joe threatened to take away a billion in US aid. That is a 'quid pro quo' that should be thoroughly investigated by the Republican House committee. Maybe roll that chubby Vindman character out again, and some anonymous whistle blowers.... or their republican equivalents.
Hunter had no experience or visible skills, other than being a pornographic crackhead. They must have been paying Hunter those many millions of dollars for "something" that only Joe Biden could provide. Let's look into it with a full impeachment trial and closed door republican-only hearings a'la pencil neck Schiff. What comes around goes around.
“so the Congress probably doesn't have any legal precedent to investigate him any way.”
Not until they find out how involved “the big guy” is. And what he had to do to get Hunter a high paying job, since he can’t pass a piss test!
Impeach him for what? I’d start with him blatantly mismanaging the security of the southern border.
No fdp. That's not it. They fished and fished and fished until they could finally make something up that fit their definition of what a high crime and misdemeanor was.
ALL sitting POTUS's have something that could qualify as a high crime and misdemeanor should the lower house choose to make it so.
Son, you are naive...
"Son, you are naive..."......Nooot hardly.
" They fished and fished and fished until they could finally make something up that fit their definition of what a high crime and misdemeanor was".....how would this be different, if it were true, then what is being proposed that is done to Biden??????
Confessional Republicans are a big group of do nothing RINOs, so expect nothing to happen.
Impeach him for what?
Intentionally failing to enforce immigration laws. There's plenty more yet to be proven, but hopefully some Republicans will have the balls to expose it.
25th amendment would be the easiest, neuro-pysch test would fail him. Shame to put an individual with dementia in control and shame on his wife to allow it and the damage to the country.
Grey Ghost, the reason the impeachment articles went nowhere was because the dems had the majority and controlled every committee, therefor determining what bills got read, debated, and considered within that committee. Republican control will do the opposite, giving the republicans control over what gets read, debated, and considered within the committee, as well as will give Kevin McCarthy control over the timeline of bills passing committee to see the house floor. Theoretically, in the new congress, Republicans would put forward the exact same articles; except this time, with R control over the committees and floor votes, the bill would actually be read, debated, and voted on within the committee as well as the house floor (given that it passes the committee)
25th amendment would be the easiest, neuro-pysch test would fail him. Shame to put an individual with dementia in control and shame on his wife to allow it and the damage to the country.
Dems will likely impeach any Republican President when they can. They have chosen that as a weapon. Republicans should impeach if only to dull that weapon by it being used too much.
The border, Afghanistan, covid policy, are a few reasons needing no big investigation. A ledger of where the billions flowing to Ukraine really end up would be ugly.
More impeachments, probes, other baloney. Easiest way fo give back dems controlof house, more senate seats, and the presidency in 2024.
If R's were smart, their main topic should be how to get the economy settled, not all that meaningless stuff.
Middle America had enough of it with orange man.
"Impeach him for what, specifically? "
"WE DON'T LIKE HIM!!!"
ROTFLMAO. Brotsky, you just dusted cnelk and won the November Troll award. Congratulations!
So gentleman, please enlighten me. If the actual process of impeachment was successful and Biden was removed from office, who would then become our new President? You should be real careful of what you wish for.
DanaC calls me a troll? You must be mixing me up with Stix
cnelk, how many of the last 10 political bullcrap threads have you started? If you ain't trolling you're damn sure fishing somehow ;-)
Impeachment is irrelevant unless there is a conviction in the Senate. You can't make oil companies drill on or offshore (they have more opportunity than they are utilizing now) and you can't fast track pipelines.
This site is my designated political shit show site. Just following Stix’s lead.
Do we really want to impeach Biden? It's not like there's an ace in the bullpen.
As much as this pains me to say this. I agree with Stix on this one. The average voter doesn’t care about an impeachment that won’t have any teeth to it.
They want the issues fixed that affect their lives.
If the person that you impeach isn't removed what difference does it make? Trump was impeached twice, Clinton once. Neither was removed from office so what difference did it make ? None.
So what was I wrong about again? I haven't confused anything.
The House *might* find grounds for censure, but impeachment? And frankly I doubt even that.
i don't know about the rest of you, but my life and the country is better because of john durham's investigation. any future investigation and hearings will surely add to it as it often does.
for instance, remember when trey gowdy asked hillary tough questions? WOW! what an improvement in policy and quality of life afterwards, not to mention how the rest of the swamp immediately changed their behavior and became more ethical and worked even harder on our behalf.
Haha... all the off the wall stuff here. You guys would be prime MyPillow CEOs equally as loony.
Yet you have no issue with trump issues security clearances to all of his family... who were literally working in the white house... people who would NEVER pass a security clearance background check due to their foreign relationships and private business dealings.
Keep up the hypocrisy you Unamericans. Double down on conspiracies.... clearly paid off in the midterms
"Hunter Biden can't pass a 4473" why can't he pass a 4473? Which question do you think would be the disqualifier?
To "impeach" only means to have been "indicted". The term "impeachment" does not in and of itself have ANYTHING to do with final guilt or innocence. Once the "articles of impeachment" or indictment are sent to the court (the Senate) then a trial is held and the individual who is the subject of the "articles of impeachment" or indictment is either convicted or acquitted. And it requires a 2/3 majority vote in the Senate to convict.
Many of the things mentioned here probably aren't even "impeachable" offenses to begin with.
Nooooo....I want you to tell me which question is the disqualifier. I've been in on the filling out of 100's of them because I was an FFL dealer for years and worked in the sporting goods business for longer than that.
If you are talking about (e)...that may or may not be a disqualifier. There would have to proof of addiction and illegal use.
Curious how Hunter got his last pistol, that was thrown away in a dumpster. Did he lie on the 4473 (a crime) or was it a straw purchase (a crime)?
Would also like to know who exactly bought his crap art for a half million each, and is there a connection between those payments and political favors from the Biden White house.
Tenses matter. "Are you..." is not the same as "Were you ever..."
40+ years since I touched the shit, pretty sure I'm neither a user not an addict.
I've had a security clearance so that's how I know. You can have 10k of regular debt(car loan etc) and be denied. That's not even for top secret. None of them were recommended for security clearances/would have got them but POTUS can basically override it/did.
Working abroad is not the same as running multiple private businesses that you control and still do that would have clear conflict of interests due to doing business specifically overseas. None of them were recommended for security clearances
" believe you would might sell him a weapon at your own demise. Hank" ....not likely since the laws and statutes that govern those things are pretty clear. And ultimately FBI/NICS is the final qualifier/disqualifier. UNLESS you are aware that it is indeed a "straw sale" or there is conduct/behavior present at the time of purchase that warrant the stoppage of the sale. Which I have done in the past.
"He got all his stuff back! "......Oh he did not. That simply isn't factual. Just like a bunch of the other stuff on this thread.
Those on top look out for each other.
Biden admin moves to shield Saudi Prince from journalist murder lawsuit. The Biden administration said that prince’s status holding a high office “allows immunity” in response to a lawsuit filed by Khashoggi’s fiancée and by the rights group he founded, Democracy for the Arab World Now.
Clinton was impeached once, Trump twice, so we need to see Biden impeached 3 times to keep the gotcha game going back and forth
Draining the US strategic petroleum reserve in the run up to the mid-term elections was certainly not in the national interest. That deserves a good hard look with congressional hearings and access to internal communications... did Biden and his team ever talk about influencing the vote with this gimmick? #preservethoserecords!
"Draining the US strategic petroleum reserve " ....soooooo do you want lower gas prices, and a reserve that can and will be refilled or......? The oil companies have an obligation to supply product to refill the strategic reserve as part of their lease contracts with the government.
"Mr Trump personal property is home."...as it should be.
"Documents he has claimed as personal property pending special master approval ."...that is the process. "In event that does not occur attorney will claim all fall into Executive Privilege category."....that isn't necessarily true either.
"as he is classification master (there is no such thing as a "classification master by the way)."...yes and no. The documents would have had to have been declassified prior to having been removed to his private residence and that can't be done telepathically.
FDP - I want low gas prices by drilling and fracking the massive energy reserves the US currently has. Enough to satisfy ALL our needs and export to the world, undercutting the energy sales funding the Russian war machine.
AND I want a full strategic reserve topped off and ready for potential war.
Draining the emergency SPR simply for lower gas prices leading up to an election is blatant political exploitation/manipulation and should be investigated.
"and should be investigated."....and what would the result be? Other than a few headlines for a few weeks for those who initiate the investigation. Nothing would come from it. It isn't illegal for an administration to use the strategic reserve and it isn't even like this is the first time it has happened.
According to Baker Hughes drilling is up virtually nationwide.
"FDP - I want low gas prices by drilling and fracking the massive energy reserves the US currently has."
And you want the Federal Government to dictate that, instead of the free markets?
"Draining the emergency SPR simply for lower gas prices leading up to an election is blatant political exploitation/manipulation and should be investigated."
Biden started tapping into the reserve last spring. The 15 million barrels to be released in December is the last of 180 million barrels total. Biden announced that plan a year ago. BTW, the reserve is far from drained. It's currently over 400 million barrels, which is about 60% full. He also has stated he will begin refilling the reserve when oil gets to around $70/barrel. It's currently at $79.
Personally, I've welcomed the lower fuel prices recently, even though they may have helped the blue team politically in the midterms. I also know that administrative policy had very little to do with it.
The federal agencies are so corrupted politically, we will never see a legit investigation. Biden admitted on camera to holding billions in aid to Ukraine until they fire the guy that was blowing the whistle on his Barisma scheme. The Dem run investigation never brought in the witnesses that knew about it- the corrupt Obama appointed ambassador wouldnt allow them the visas to come testify.
The media will kick and scream defending Democrats even with overwhelming evidence…just look at the Hunter laptop thing.
Speaking of the laptop, the FBI has had that incriminating evidence for a couple years…they even have a corroborating witness…and they have done nothing.
Look at the FTX thing, Sam Bankman Freid should be in jail….he ran a Ponzi scheme fleecing an estimated million people…..BUT…
SBF gave Biden $20M then was one of the largest Dem donors in the last election giving $38M that we know of. There are reports he was laundering the $Billions that were going to Ukraine and funneling $$$$$$$$ back to Democrats. SBF is sitting in the Bahamas knowing the Dems will be reluctant to prosecute as he can blow the whistle on them. The SEC was investigating and nothing…the banking chair Maxine Waters ( one of the most racist idiots on the planet) was blowing SBF kisses. Its crazy, beyond 3rd world corrupt.
When politics invades the Federal gov - we all lose.
"Many MSM outlets all saying Mr Trump forfeited his right to run for Potus because he was Impeached twice."......now Hank...you know that ALL that is, is somebody trying to get clicks/viewers and nothing else. And for you to promote as anything else is well.......a little nonsensical. Until MSM gets to interpret government code it's nonsense. Nobody is playing into Trumps hands......he has absolutely -0- idea what is doing or is going to do. All he is doing is trying to stay in the spotlight any way that he can.
I know some of you guys worship Trump and are wishing for a single party system based on GOP values, but man, at least come up with sensible stuff.
My question is what system produces the choices of Biden and Trump for President, and Trudeau for Prime Minister. Having loons for a choice is simply a symptom of a broken system.
Why is it that I know like 50 Americans personally and would choose every single one of them as a better President than the 2 candidates that rise to the top? Seriously. It's ALL broken. Same with Canada. Although I have a little bit of hope for Pollievre being decent.
Looks like a special prosecutor assigned to jan 6th / mar-a-lago cases.
Gotta explore all the possibilities on the matter. Orange man says it's a political hit job. It could also be the newest trump tower.
"My question is what system produces the choices of Biden and Trump for President,"....the answer to that would be worth millions and millions.
“My question is what system produces the choices of Biden and Trump for President, and Trudeau for Prime Minister. Having loons for a choice is simply a symptom of a broken system.”
Exactly what I’ve been saying for a few years now. When Hillary/Trump, then Biden Trump are the best we can can come up with, we’re all in a world of hurt.
LOOK at the zoo you get if you impeach him???
To be honest, 2 things that orange man does deserve credit for was his handling of immigration, and operation warp speed to get a covid vaccine. But the job he did first dividing the republican party, and then again dividing the country after his lost election rises to the level of extreme irresponsibility and possibly criminal.
I would agree with that analogy.
"...and possibly criminal. "
And now we have a Special Counsel to oversee the investigations into his 'behavior'. Popcorn!
"And now we have a Special Counsel to oversee the investigations into his 'behavior'. "
Good. I do hope the Special Counsel sheds light on the criminal and treasonous activities of the Biden crime family.
Umm, do you read the news? Or at least scan the headlines? Mar-A-Largo and January 6th.
I am a strong Republican but, in this case, I am against expense and effort of Biden impeachment. The GOP needs to find a path forward, as others have said, forget what happens in the bedroom, bathroom and womb. Focus on the economy and important world issues.
So if Hunter Biden committed crimes than Trump should be given a free pass. What about holding Trump and the Biden’s responsible for their actions. I don’t believe that the Judicial system is broke with the exception of the Supreme Court. There is a lot of difference between rumors and facts that can be verified in a court of law. Holding court on public forums makes a lot of people look ridiculous. After working in Corrections for 26 years and dealing with thousands of convicts I can honestly say there were maybe 5 or 6 inmates that could of been innocent. One case was a murder that the Father took the blame for his son after he beat a man to death with a baseball bat.
I think we piss away a lot of taxpayer dollars on crooked, and frivolous investigations.
"Umm, do you read the news? Or at least scan the headlines? Mar-A-Largo and January 6th."
So now we're sure.......comprehension of subtlety is not the liberal's strong suit.
And confusing wishful thinking with news is a Trumpster's specialty >;-)
“I think we piss away a lot of taxpayer dollars on crooked, and frivolous investigations.”
And it doesn’t help that the FBI and DOJ are able to decide what does and doesn’t get investigated. Nancy isn’t gone yet. They still bow to her.
"And now we have a Special Counsel to oversee the investigations into his 'behavior'. Popcorn!"
wow...literally within days of trump announcing his candidacy...coincidence? and before you try...i hope trump doesnt get the nomination...im just capable of spotting a political hit job when i see one. whether you are a democrat or a republican...this stuff should scare the shit out everyone.
Ricky, Trump & Co. spent a lot of effort delaying the investigations, so when they finally turn it over to Justice it's a 'timing' issue? Umm, yeah, ok.
Meanwhile Trump gets to bleat how he's a 'victim'. Lap it up.
As much as I detest Bidens leftist agenda, if he were to be impeached, the vast majority of politicians in DC should be run out of office.
We can't put all the blame on these Leftist Democrats and Fascist Republicans...somebody votes for these thugs.
"wow...literally within days of trump announcing his candidacy...coincidence?"
No sir, not a coincidence at all. In fact, Merrick Garland stated that one of the reasons he appointed the special counsel was Trump's recent announcement that he is a candidate for president. Its official: we have become a third world tyrannical sh*thole country where the powerful can take down their political opponents.
APauls…good comment…and of course its $$$$$$$$$.
Why is it that we can only contribute $2700, but the FTX guy can throw $50m, Soros- who knows how much, the Netflix guy gives $3m to Newsome….and the same thing happens with the Rep candidates.
If we; tightened ip the campaign laws with STRICT penalties, installed term limits so these folks couldn’t use their office to get re- elected and stop insider trading-
We just might get a legit gov.
Instead we have a politicized Fed that attacks political enemies and anyone for free speech.
Sundowner, turning it over to Justice was inevitable. Appointing a special counsel removes the matter one step further from the 'chain of command', aka Biden and Garland. Thus INcreasing independence from electoral politicking.
They don't teach you kids much nowadays, do they?
"Appointing a special counsel removes the matter one step further from the 'chain of command', aka Biden and Garland. Thus INcreasing independence from electoral politicking."
You mean like the apolitical meuller investigation...leaks and all...can you be any more naive?
"Appointing a special counsel removes the matter one step further from the 'chain of command', aka Biden and Garland. "
And you think this "Special Council" doesn't report to, and answer to Biden and Garland?
"They don't teach you kids much nowadays, do they?"
Where this kid went to school they taught us to believe nothing we hear and only half what we see.
You naive much?
Treason high crimes and misdemeanors, is what he can be impeached for.
Selling out the country to China, aiding and abetting drug cartels in their human smuggling operations. Flooding the country with fentanyl. Possibly profiting off all the Ukraine “aid” through FTX. Forcing the termination of an Ukraine prosecutor who was looking into Hunters business relationships with corrupt oligarchs could be a reason. Corrupting the FBI and spying on the Trump campaign. Giving terrorists 86 billion in weapons.
Just a few reasons for those who are saying “for what?” Although I doubt republicans have the wherewithal to see it through.
Stop insider trading and put in term limits and you would cut down on life long politicians!
Drew, that's 90% of politicians in DC
Shaft, can you prove *any* of that or are you relying on Rupert Murdoch to provide 'evidence'? LMAO!!!
'Everybody knows' and 'nobody knows' are both equally true. Especially in politics!
I'm just relying on nature to solve the Biden and Trump issues. We will see
Trump did nothing to get impeached and neither has Biden
invoke the 25th maybe because Joe is senile and not mentally competent .... but not impeach
it shouldnt be forgotten that impeachment is nothing more than a charge...the trial happens in the senate. the party in power can impeach...charge...a president for having ugly hair if they have enough votes...its a political cudgel.