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New bow in 2023
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Contributors to this thread:
Don 07-Dec-22
12yards 07-Dec-22
spike78 08-Dec-22
Anchor point 08-Dec-22
Guardian hunter 08-Dec-22
KSflatlander 08-Dec-22
wyobullshooter 08-Dec-22
spike78 08-Dec-22
spike78 08-Dec-22
spike78 08-Dec-22
RT 08-Dec-22
12yards 08-Dec-22
WhattheFOC 08-Dec-22
KSflatlander 08-Dec-22
Bigdog 21 08-Dec-22
WhattheFOC 08-Dec-22
spike78 08-Dec-22
12yards 08-Dec-22
caribou77 08-Dec-22
Don 09-Dec-22
spike78 10-Dec-22
ESP 10-Dec-22
Doublelung 24-Dec-22
From: Don
07-Dec-22
I’m thinking about a new bow in 23. Currently shooting a 2014 Elite Energy35. I seem to have a lot of problems with torque. Any suggestions on a model that will help with torque. Also having some tendinitis problems in bow arm elbow. Any suggestions on a cam that will be less stress on my elbow?

From: 12yards
07-Dec-22
The E35 is a pretty mild, smooth drawing bow. I'm not sure you will find anything significantly better. The Athens bows or Bowtech (SS34) bows in comfort setting might be your best option. PSE makes a smooth drawing cam but I don't remember what the name of the cam is. Maybe the Evolve cam. All that said, the answer might be a lower poundage draw weight.

From: spike78
08-Dec-22
I might be wrong but I would think Elite would be one of the better brands for torque with their slim grip. Maybe change the way you hold the grip or loosen up your grip if already aren’t? I have never shot it but read the Elite Impulse was a very smooth drawing bow.

08-Dec-22
I had the elite impulse 31. Awesome bow..pretty fast too

08-Dec-22
I really like the bow tech line up with the optional grip. I have the carbon one. Pricey but what the heck...Solved some of my torque issues

From: KSflatlander
08-Dec-22
Elite…dang they seen you coming lololololol. Bunch of Elite fan boys.

Sorry couldn’t resist.

08-Dec-22
First, I’d change the way you grip the bow to get rid of your hand torque. I also have an Elite Impulse 31, but I wouldn’t call it exactly smooth. To be fair, the same can be said about most “speed” bows. Both my BowTech BTX-28, set on Classic, and my BowTech SR-6, set on comfort, are definitely easier to draw and both are set 3-4 lbs heavier draw weight. As was mentioned earlier, you might want to check out the BowTech SS34. I personally haven’t shot it, but I know a couple guys that have. In the comfort setting they were very impressed how smooth it was. I’m sure there are many others as well. Shoot as many different bows as you can to find the one that fits your needs the best.

From: spike78
08-Dec-22
KS you couldn’t be more wrong I’ve owned 6 different brand bows in over 20 years and haven’t bought the same brand twice.

From: spike78
08-Dec-22
Wyo I may have said the wrong bow I think I meant the Verdict it was one of the newer bows. I actually did draw back an Impulse now that I remember and found it alittle harsh compared to my Hunter.

From: spike78
08-Dec-22
KS don’t be mad cuz the grips on the new Mathews suck and everyone buys an aftermarket. Admit it you changed the grip didn’t you?

From: RT
08-Dec-22
I'd look for something with at least 33" ata, flat grip like a Shrewd, and features that enable pin point tuning. Start close and work your way back. Use a heavier trigger to focus on form.

From: 12yards
08-Dec-22
Yeah, the Impulse had one of the more uncomfortable draw cycles in Elite history. I had an Impulse 34. Definitely a significant hump to pull over into the valley, at least at my 29.5" draw length. Great valley, held well, and was quite accurate though. I enjoyed owning it. Of the newer Elites, I'd say the Ritual series or the Kure/Remedy/Enkore with smooth mods (standard mods) would be the more comfortable shooting bows.

From: WhattheFOC
08-Dec-22
“the grips on the new Mathews suck”

Spike - are u implying that the grips on the old Mathews don’t suck? You need to be fact checked immediately. :)

I kinda like shooting off the riser of my VXR. A set of sexy Shadow Creek side plates are a fun accessory for us fanboys.

From: KSflatlander
08-Dec-22

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Picking a new bow is so subjective and personal it’s hard to take any recommendations as gospel because we are all biased. If truly you’re open to whatever and don’t care the brand then go to the archery shop and shoot all of them. If it feels good then your confidence will improve and so will your shooting.

Spike- are you obtuse and looney tunes about everything? I was just proving you’re a hypocrite. It’s ok. If you like Elites then more power to you. Elites have their problem too and so does every piece of equipment ever produced. From Trucks to guns to can openers. You see Brand X truck broken down on the side of the road then you conclude all Brand X is junk. Really, that’s your logic lol.

I’ve shot 4 different brands since I was able to legally hunt. Bear first then I shot Jennings for a long time. Then Bowtech and now Mathews. I’ve only shot Mathews for 4 years and I’m 50 and have been legally bowhunting since 14. When I bought the Vertix I was going to the shop to buy the Bowtech Realm. The Mathews felt better. I told you this before but you ignore it cause it blows up your fan boy comments. And no, I have never change a grip on a single bow I’ve ever bought and like the Mathews grip as is. You watch too much YouTube lol.

You think Mathews are junk. Great. But you have nothing to back that up because you have no real long-term personal experience. Even if you did it’s 1 bow out of hundreds of thousands made of that model. Same with me and Elite therefore I’m not going to bash them.

Hoyt, Mathews, Bowtech, Elite, Prime, Bear, etc all make great bows. Hell, even today’s Cabelas or Bass Pro bows are a big step up if your shooting a +10 year old bow. I guarantee they will all kill everything from turkeys to elk.

The link shows a few complaints about Elite. Does that mean they are all junk. For a simpleton it would I guess.

Don- Sorry for hijacking your thread for a bit. I promise I’m done. Good luck on your quest and let us know the bow you picked and why. I like hearing stuff like that. If you buy new marquee of any brand it will be +$1000. If money is an issue I don’t think there is a whole lot of difference from a Mathews Vertix to V3 to V3X to Phase 4. However, take the Phase 4 comment with a grain of salt cause I just bought it and have only shot it a few times. I went with the Phase 4 because it felt right and the new changes they did to further reduce shock and noise makes scientific sense. But I’m not vouching for their claims yet as I don’t have enough experience with it yet. Oh and Phase 4s are apparently a trigger for hypocrites so that’s just an added bonus.

Good luck.

From: Bigdog 21
08-Dec-22
I like the Hoyts best. But everyone is different

From: WhattheFOC
08-Dec-22
I’m convinced that some of it is just what we are ‘used to’. My buddy and I swapped bows for a few shots awhile back. Neither of us wanted to poo-poo the other guys rig, but we both wanted our own bows back asap.

I’ve never really played the whole Ford Vs Chevy game. I’ve owned ‘em all, and they ALL break down.

From: spike78
08-Dec-22
KS I’m recommending Elite because the OP has a problem with torque and since I own an Elite and I myself have some torquing issues I find the slimness of the Elite grip to be forgiving with torque. I once shot a double Robin Hood with my Elite and to do that I’m pretty sure everything has to be perfect. By the way that’s 3 arrows in that Robinhood not sure if that’s ever been done before but anyway..

From: 12yards
08-Dec-22
Amazing how just about any thread can become a crap fight.

From: caribou77
08-Dec-22
Don, you have a super forgiving platform. The e35 is still very popular and perfect specs in my eyes. Have you ever tried a VGrip? To me it’s very much nicer than the older rounded edge e35 grips. Though vgrip e35s are hard to find now. The elite rezult36 would be a virtual match to the e35 with some newer cooler things. Adjustable cam for draw length and let off. Limb or cable stops. Better grip. You can find them fairly reasonable now on the Facebook Elite groups. $5-600. Bought and sold one for that price just to try it but in the end I stayed with my elite victory 37.

My brother has an elite Kure. Nice bow with all those features and super quiet.

From: Don
09-Dec-22
Thoughts on the new carbon Elite?

From: spike78
10-Dec-22
Don I think if your looking for a smooth bow for your elbow I’d say the new Elite would be harsher then you want from all the reviews and videos I watched. They did say it’s more smooth then the Omnia but probably less smooth then past bows but theirs only one way to tell go shoot it.

From: ESP
10-Dec-22
Don, I had a E35. I got rid of it a few years ago after my third shoulder surgery. It was too harsh on me. I actually shot trad bows the last few years due to a linear draw. Now post cancer surgery I have been looking for an easy pulling and letting down compound bow. I tried many but have settled on the Bear Adapt. It is a single cam that has a draw similar to my old switch back xt. I am surprised by the quality for not being part of the big 3 bow manufacturers.

From: Doublelung
24-Dec-22
There are many great bows. I shoot a Prime INLINE. It is my second Prime after shooting Mathews and PSE over last 40 years. If you have a good archery shop they most likely have a bow for you.

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