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Dogs attack hunter
In Georgia. Surprise they were pit bulls what’s new with those menaces.
Oh surprise another fatal mauling of four people by these wonderful beasts
“The dogs were identified as American Staffordshire Terriers,“
Look like, act like pit bulls what a nice homey, small sophisticated lap dog kinda name “American Staffordshire Terriers”
Still a pit bull.
I wouldn’t be too stuck on the breeds. I’ve had to defend myself from collies, blue healers, hounds, and mutts while cruising timber.
It never is the breed in the cases of domesticated dogs roaming unchecked in a pack. It’s their lineage that takes over. I even had a beagle in a pack trying to bite me one time.
It’s not the breed. Funny
Not fit to be around humans like other breeds
The problem with dogs is their owners and trainers. We've raised Pit Bulls, German Shepherds and Cane Corso's for years and never had a problem. And have never had a report of a dog from our kennel ever having been a threat to a yo e if it wasn't defending it's family or handler.
SMH. I never said pit bulls weren’t more prone to be dangerous. I said all breeds, when packed up and running in the woods are dangerous.
No, breeds have tendencies bred in them . PIT Bulls Have been bred for aggression . And look at the statistics . There was a special on the breed years ago . Many Medical doctors in the United States want the breeding stopped . In the special , one owner , took painstaking research on breeding to own two passive pitbulls and her dogs ripped a child out of her arms and killed the child .
Take a Labrador from hunting lineage, he gets crazy excited smelling a gamebird as a pup without any training . Pitbulls have violence bred in them .
Pitbulls are ticking time bombs
Reading comprehension and applied common sense is a fading quality amongst some bowsite’rs.
I don't trust the breed. Don't want my grandkids or dogs around them.
Midwest x2…but my kids, no grandkids here lol. We were very close to an issue a few years ago bird hunting with a guy who walked her Doberman pincher off leash (illegally) on a WMA land. He came very close to taking a #5 as he was backing my brother twords a pretty steep cliff edge and he had our dog by his collar so they wouldn’t get into it… yet the guys telling me he’s friendly and only wants to play….another two steps he woulda been a friendly taxidermy project for the family
My best friend's sister was attacked in her driveway by a pitbull. She almost lost her leg. I could barely stand to look at the photos of her leg. Some of her leg looked like hamburger. They are the worst but years ago I was almost attacked by a Doberman while pheasant hunting a friend's property. He came snarling and growling from an adjacent property about 70 yards away. He slid to a stop at my feet as he stared at my throat snarling. I think that he may have realized that he was a foot or two away from getting blasted in the head from my 12guage which was off safety. With my Remington in hand, l was able to back him off slowly as he snarled at me as if he knew the shotgun was a weapon. Very glad that I did not need to use it.
Bou x 2. Kill em all. The owner of any dog that kills someone should get the chair also.
I don’t like pits, but I have to agree with WV, any dog can be aggressive, especially when they pack up. Several dogs will do what one won’t, kinda like gangs in the big cities. I’ve had nondescript dogs try to bite me, and a Doberman act like a puppy. I’ve been to many a house looking to buy clay or gravel in my days in the oilfield and you just can’t tell what dog will act aggressively on his own turf. But those front porch layabouts will roam with other dogs and act ugly if you let them, and the owners will probably never know.
I've been around plenty of friendly and sweet pits. They should all be exterminated. Maybe RK is up to the task.
A little more recent numbers from a Pit Bull friendly group.
67 % fatalities pitbulls , ALL OTHER BREEDS COMBINED 33% ...
kinda confirms it doesn't it .
"Kill'em all"... Boubound, I'm curious, do you you have some childhood trauma from a dog you never resolved, and instead shoot them in an attempt to conquer your fear?
Grew up visiting farms and ranches, unannounced with my father who both sold crop insurance and served as an adjuster. From the age of 5 on up, I had many encounters with grouchy country dogs just defending their boundaries. Learned real quick not to make sudden moves and let them sniff me over. Still works today when I'm running my landscaping business in unfamiliar yards when people forget to put their dogs up. Never been bit once.
Every male lab I've had is very protective, border line aggressive with strangers. Kinda nice to know when the girlfriend is jogging nobody is going to bother her.
Idiot cop in my county is under scrutiny for shooting a country dog 2 years ago and someone finally leaked the video after the county decided to give him a K9. The dog he shot was acting completely normal, laying in the driveway until the cop barged in. Chickenshit ruined a family's life because he had no knowledge of dog behavior and had a pistol to cover his insecurities.
Thornton , it's also nice to know .... the chances of your labrador attacking and killing or severely injuring someone is .. slim and nil .. and slim just took a bus to Chicago. Most dogs are good dogs , but there are breeds that have a tendency to more aggression and violence . ....it's Genetics .
Retired from a electric utility company, have had my experiences with all kind of dogs through the years while "trespassing" on ROW's. The common black lab breed caused me the most issues. Although all breeds may become very territorial.
If one of wolf killed One person we would Push for extermination and major legislation but pit bulls find a common group Of deniers that act like all Dog breeds are homogenous
Hunter fault not being able to defend himself.
Why haven't you answered Thornton?
Any dog can be aggressive no kidding I watched a young Irish setter wanting a piece of a Great Dane this Saturday at an archery event.
I’m up for it but just wrapped up deer but still busy with hogs and such. Happy to revisit it in a month or two. Seems like San Antonio area is a good place to start
I grew up with this problem. When i was a teenager i was treed by feral dogs pretty regular while trapping. owner left the dogs run loose and they bred like rats, They finally caught up with the guy and he got a huge fine for it.
I like dogs, always had a dog...but if my dog did this......he'd get a lead pill.
You dog lovers that don't like that kind of talk?....fine, keep yer mutt at home, and under control....problem solved
Go strapped or get clapped. At least carry a blade at all times. ^^^^ When the dog goes feral there's nothing to do for it but kill it.
Nope. I kept Bailey’s in business buying hickory biltmore sticks. They come with brass caps fitted over both ends to keep them from cracking.
I killed a coyote with one. And readjusted several dogs attitudes with a few more. Once you bust the brass cap off, they splinter when hitting something hard. Time for a new one.
Because I live where there is a high density of apex predators. I carry pepper spray and a knife when I walk or hunt . Lucky to have never had to use it yet. Have not run into any feral dogs yet. Once had two coyotes * believe it or not coming right at me on a forestry road acting aggressive.. I doubled down and ran at them and they headed the opposite direction . I had pepperspray and a knife . I was turkey hunting . Usually I'm aways away from ranches so dogs aren't a problem when I big game bowhunt . Asking g permission for pheasant hunting for years I was always careful when the farm dog come running up . Let em smell ya by carefully and slowly offering the back of your hand . Worked . The odd one I wouldn't get out of .y truck if they were going ballistic
I won’t go into the woods here in Idaho without my LCR on my side. We’ve had an increase in feral dogs and people in the last few years. They squat in the backwoods and sometimes you have no idea they’re there until you’re standing in the middle of their camp.
Too bad we don’t deal with humans with the same swiftness and aggression that we do with animals when they attack!!?
There are no bad dogs just bad owners. Sad and such a waste. Another reason to carry , you just never know.
Even with the dogs tho, I think I feel safer in the woods with them without a gun than I do at the grocery store in town with my handgun….two legged creatures are my main LTC reason.
Over the years I’ve had to dispatch a few aggressive canines. No evidence. No regrets.
The American Pitbull Terrier were bred to be aggressive to other dogs and were actually bred to not be aggressive to humans. It's funny how bow hunters can be so ignorant when we ourselves are cast by anti hunters as liking to wound, and torture and bowhunting is cruel etc. Attached is the mission statement from the ASPCA on APT if anyone would like some info from experts on dogs. Unfortunately the breed has become a favorite of people that are lowlifes and can't even raise their children to be responsible adults let alone a dog.
Here is some more from the ASPCA. Their position on hunting. I figure they equally right on both subjects or wrong.
I carry my Taurus Judge when I’m in the woods doing anything! Bowhunting, hiking, backpacking, Mtn biking, camping etc..................I feel naked without it! : (
I have it loaded with three .45 rounds (for 2/4 legged critters) and two .410’s for snakes....................
I was a Boy Scout in my younger days and live by the motto: BE PREPARED! ;-)
We've had this discussion before. Attached is a story, shared before, of an owner that was attacked an eaten by her two pits. The web is replete with articles, of "loving pits that would smother you with kisses" that snapped shit and mauled or killed their owner, kids, stranger...
Pits are responsible for 70% of attacks and fatalities. By a magnitude over other breeds. It's a breed issue. A please, for the love of God, don't trot out your AR comparison from before.
Bowbender, I'm well aware of that attack and the woman's Father actually starved the dogs and kept them caged until they went feral. At that point there were no different than a wild animal that was starving. I'm all for personal responsibility and holding the owners responsible if they have a dangerous dog that hurts someone. Same with firearm ownership and throwing the book at drunk drivers. I want the government and liberals out of my life and making new stupid laws that won't be enforced on the very people where the problem is. The country is a cesspool right now since we are letting criminals roam free.
Mint the point is not if a Pit Bull can be a good pet. It is that a lot of time they are not. It might even be rarely they are a problem but when they are someone gets killed or severely hurt. Why have a Pit Bull as a pet that do, and the statistics back it up, much more often than any other bred hurt and kill people when there are so many more breeds that concern of that happen it so much less.
That is still up for debate if the dogs were starved. What isn’t, is the fact 20% of the dogs cause 70% of bites and fatalities. And please, guns just don’t lose their shit and go off and rip a kids face off. Or eat their owner.
My friends and I have had pitbulls for over 30 years and never came close to having a problem with them. Any breed doesn't just snap, there are plenty of warning signs, and most likely a reason why the attack happened. But I do agree A LOT OF PEOPLE shouldn't own pits, rotties, german shepherds or any large breed. There is a young couple that walks a lab, well the lab walks them and is very aggressive and sooner or later that dog is going to hurt someone. They shouldn't own a powerful breed of dog and should own a small breed since they haven't a clue on how to train a dog. Like i said hold the owner ultimately responsible just like the drunk driver should be held responsible but unfortunately our society usually lets them off with a slap on the wrist. Much more likely to get killed by a drunk driver than a pitbull but when a dog kills someone it's all over the news.
Pitts are not welcome on my property.
Yeah, my dad had way too many kids come through the ER and never go home.
I was reading some of those stats and like the “stay away from the shoulder” thread, it’s what’s NOT there that got my attention…. Kids are the solid majority of victims but none of the vics who required hospitalization were kids.
I’m not sure that’s factual, but if it is, it’s terrifying.
And not-for-nothing… I’d need to know more details, but I’m curious as to whether there’s not a case to be made for a manslaughter or murder charge against the guy whose daughter got eaten…
Mint. Let us know when the young couples lab kills and eats someone
You have to disqualify yourself on pi'ts simply because you own them a d you love them and that swats your looking at the data in a non bias way.
In honesty my 4 month old lab knocked a one year old Down Sunday and licked All of the peanut butter off of him. I guess she was in pre kill mode
So....I've been treating patients in ERs all across the state of Kansas from KCK to extreme SW KS for the last 17 years and I've yet to see anything I would remotely consider a mauling. Keep in mind, pit bulls are the dog of choice here in amongst certain ethnicities and I've been here exactly 6 years working major ERs.
More people are bit by golden retriever's each year then pits. If you remember the old show the little rascals Petey was a pit bull terrier. They are incredibly livening and obedient breed and loyal as hell. It’s when aholes take them and inbreed them and train them to be aggressive is the problem. Rottys and GSD all went through the same hype. It’s all on how a dog is raised period do t Blane rge breed.
A quick google search shows that Pits rank #1 for dog bites and fatalities. By a magnitude of ~7:1 over the next breed. That’s pretty significant.
Getting nipped or bitten is different than a sustained, extended attack with the intent to maim or kill.
Some traits are present in dogs from birth and this is undeniable. A hound trails game and barks and a bird dog naturally points.
Aggressiveness can be taught or heightened but it's there deep inside. When a pit snaps, it's lost control and is out to finish the job. I won't be around one.
This bred should be eliminated by sterilization just like Huntington-Korea disease.
I’d sterilize all of them with a 22 lr to the ear hole.
From: Mint 27-Feb-23
My friends and I have had pitbulls for over 30 years and never came close to having a problem with them.
How do you know?! Once you “have a problem” it’s too late.....................
There is a reason why most insurance companies will not provide personal liability insurance if you own certain dog breeds. The Pit Bull is at the top of the list.
I have a papillon. Perhaps if she escaped and became feral she would attempt to bite you. At 10 pounds and without a strong jaw you will likely survive with minor injuries.
If I had a pit bull the weight and jaw strength would change the odds on you surviving with minor injuries.
Breed matters a crap ton. Anyone who has a pit bull in their house with children or grandchildren around should be treated no less harshly by the courts than if one of those kids was harmed by picking up an unlocked, loaded handgun.
This is a senseless attack.
Getting nipped by an ankle biter is alot different than having your muscles and vitals ripped out by an aggressively bred and trained dog. Been dealing with poor dog owners since I delivered papers as a kid. I never got bit but my sister did twice. Funny how damn near every time it was collection week the owners let them loose, then would piss and moan when we would stop delivering the paper.
As a runner got chased plenty of times too. My nephew was chased by a rotweiller during a CC meet. Turned around kicked the dog and killed it. The peace officer gave a ticket to the owner. Most recently had some shitty little cross-breed came hundreds of yards out onto the lake while ice fishing to take a shot at my claves.. A small shovel tap on the head stopped his nonsense. Was still doing the same thing later in the week another fisherman reported him to local police. Had really big crossbreed come after me at a public boat launch once. Fought him off with a life vest and landing net.
In all these cases owner was in the wrong. Most were nowhere to be found.
Rescued a little cockapoo mix on a 4 lane road once. The scared pooch was tapped between lanes and was going to get squished. In a quick break in traffic, I stopped the truck scrambled out there and snatched her. Little "Sophie" had a dog tag with an out-of-state phone number. Called the guy he didn't even know the dog was missing. Again, the owner's fault.
Leash laws are in place for citizen's and the dogs' protection. If attacked, most if not all laws are in the human's favor, as they should be. Of course, will not bring back someone killed by an aggressive dog with a horrible dog owner. Go after the owner and their insurance company for HUGE LAWSUIT, would be my response. If I wasn't in jail for beating the crap out of the owner.
Yeah, I own a dog too.
If one of wolf killed One person we would Push for extermination and major legislation but pit bulls find a common group Of deniers that act like all Dog breeds are homogenous
About 25 years ago, my Niece (3 years old) was over at a Neighbor's house, playing inside with their kids and their dog (Pit Bull).
Dog ended up latching on to her face, and shaking that poor baby, like a rag doll. Fortunately, she only bears a few minor scars Today, she was very lucky!
Neighbors swore the dog had never attacked anyone before, always been a "sweet baby"....
Never trusted a Pit Bull ever since!