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Questioning those living on the front range. I realize Polis won by landslide. Have to deal with this for 4 years.
Asking/hoping that there is a chance that a more conservative canidate will have a chance? I don't belive a Republican will ever be elected in CO again. I'm just hoping for maybe a more level headed, pro hunting democratic canidate??? I believe this is our only hope to save CO hunting's future.
That candidate will really have to emphasize how shitty Denver and surrounding areas have become with violence, theft, drugs etc. Polis is the golden boy to a lot of the front range.
Any new candidate who wins will have to be super woke, because the majority of voters on the Front Range have been brainwashed into that twisted level of thinking. Our best hope is for a Dem who is not blatantly anti-hunting. IMO, that would be a "win".
Anything is possible but CO not continuing down the path of CA is highly improbable. Too bad, this place was awesome.
Chris Roe's latest podcast spells out the current situation. It's really hard. He details the inconveinent truth. These new appointed commisioners are poision for the future of hunting. As he points out, the only way it will change, get better, is new Gov, that will appoint pro hunting commssioners.
I’m just praying for an Armageddon type of experience where only the strong survive and we can start fresh.
Sivart, easier said than done. The sad fact is, the Front Range has been overrun by those that truly believe in the anti-hunting stupidity. The other sad fact is the Front Range now controls the voting booths, the rest of the state be damned. Until that changes it’s only going to get worse, and unfortunately, I don’t see that changing.
Until the Republicans put forth a candidate that isn’t a clone, Trumpwannabe, they won’t win in Colorado or the nation. If only the GOP could get over this Trump MAGA virus, then maybe sanity could be restored.
Colorado is well down the path of becoming the new California. Not sure if it will ever recover.
Pretty sure what it would take to get the state out of its downward spiral into libtard hell isn’t electable. Making Colorado Great Again will never happen….
Only 5.2% of Colorado residents are licensed hunters. That 5.2% is not going to control the other 94.8%. Colorado used to have reasonable conservatives and could again. I agree with Ramhunter. California Oregon and Washington residents have not changed as much as the Republican party has. And complaining against "Woke" only tells people you want to deny the discriminatory practices of the past to promote more favoritism for the elite, especially whites. It gives me no pleasure to say Republicans are in danger of being a long-term minority party.
After knocking on doors for a local republican candidate, I am convinced the Roe v Wade supreme court decision swayed a bunch of female votes to dems, which is quite ridiculous because the chance of that issue ever being denied in Colorado is absolutely zero. You can blame lack of quality candidates all you want, but our voter base has zero intelligence, no critical thinking skills and believes the opinion they are spoon fed from Kyle Clark at 9news.
Our voters just decriminalized mind altering mushrooms and more taxes. Make more then 300k, you pay for school lunches? Property tax lies, get it on the ballot? Paid family leave and your take home pay drops by 20%, sure put it on the ballot. Colorado is becoming unaffordable to democrat voters, we just need a 2008 style melt down to happen again. Housing is taking a dive now, jobs may follow, $4.00 gas, $5 diesel is a burden.
Look at comments on nextdoor.com, I am shocked by all the people who actually believe driving electric cars and banning fracking is going to solve climate change, drought, and prevent forest fires.
There is always hope and issues to win on. I heard we are number 1 in car thefts right now. School boards and the legislature are pissing off parents. More gun control laws at a time crime is high spurring high demand for guns and self defense, that's crazy and so are democrats.
"The latest data show that people use guns for self-defense only rarely. According to a Harvard University analysis of figures from the National Crime Victimization Survey, people defended themselves with a gun in nearly 0.9 percent of crimes from 2007 to 2011." The person most likely to be killed by your gun is you or someone in your family. Portland Oregon and Denver Colorado have a lot of crime, and at least in Portland we have a lot of gun deaths. Let's all get more handguns and automatic rifles for safety? I do not drive in major parts of Portland at night because of the risk of violence. I am not going there with my S&W. I am staying clear of the place for safety.
The problem women have on the abortion issue includes the concern that their congressional representative goes to Washington where they vote on bills that could adversely impact them. Keep calling these women "ridiculous" and see how persuasive you will be.
Most of the scientists I have heard and read believe humans are contributing significantly to climate change. Forest fires are burning millions of acres in the west each year and they are hotter that when I was a wildland firefighter. What is your solution?
It always amazes me when people say the Republican Party has gone way extreme when I look at the extreme left and how whacko they are. The left has gone further left than the right has gone right. In fact the right is going more left IMO.
For states like Colorado, New Mexico, and any of the west or NE Coast states It's going to be imperative that hunting is not a partisan issue. If we can't get Democratic candidates to rule in favor of hunting we will lose in all of the blue states eventually. I'm registered independent but lean Republican. There's no good reason why consumptive use of wildlife has to be a Republican only ticket imo
Another thing, Governor polis being openly gay... If he were pro hunting would you be welcome in your camp? If not maybe it's something to think about
"Until the Republicans put forth a candidate that isn’t a clone, Trumpwannabe, they won’t win in Colorado or the nation. If only the GOP could get over this Trump MAGA virus, then maybe sanity could be restored."
Agreed. It's best to elect an echo of the democrat party, instead of a conservative.
Also grasshopper is right, Roe v. Wade and limited abortion rights are a big issue. The Democrats have the female vote and will continue to
Its going to take 2 scenarios; 1) Hit rock bottom. Chicago is the latest example of how a once great city has been destroyed by Liberal Democrats.
2) fire all of the liberal professors churning out thousands of liberal drones that settle in CO
Actually there is a third…but I wouldn’t hold my breathe; That these Dem voters see how this liberal Dem politicians are wrecking everything and start voting in fiscal conservatives.
“Pretty sure what it would take to get the state out of its downward spiral into libtard hell isn’t electable. ”
It’s not going to change with one office. The problem is that the “Republican” base has gone so extreme that nobody who stands a chance in General has a prayer of getting the party endorsement…
In the 25 years I’ve lived out here, probably the one pragmatic decision by CT republicans was to vote en masse for Joe Lieberman when he lost to the far left and ran as an Indy.
You guys want to pretend that anyone who doesn’t profess undying loyalty to Trump is necessarily some kind of “libtard”, but there are plenty enough people who simply can’t stomach The Donald to win a general election over most of the recently elected Dems, provided that the Trumpy People could just vote for the non-Trumpy, non-Democratic party candidate.
But that’s not good enough for the tin-foil-hat republicans, who would rather split the baby in two…
If Polis is pro hunting, I think most guys would welcome any pro hunting Gov. to their hunt camp. Don't try and spin or play the gay card. That has nothing to do with it. I'm against his policy, not his sexual orientation.
I'm for wildlife. I'm for hunting. They go hand in hand.
Republicans just have to adapt as the dems have. Don’t wait till the day of to vote. Vote early, mail it in, harvest those ballots. Whatever them dems do, do it better or things will continue to get worse.
A store can't legally provide us with a free bag for our groceries in CO. We are declining rapidly. I have little faith in a change in direction.
“Another thing, Governor polis being openly gay... If he were pro hunting would you be welcome in your camp? If not maybe it's something to think about”
Some guys stay solid at the end of the night out on the town, some go home with a fatty. Something to think about.
Swede, Im not really following you. Why people buy guns has nothing to do with how often or why they are used or misused. Dems are trying to pass a 3 day wait period, can't buy until 21, red flag expansion, ability to sue manufacturers, and its anticipated a semi auto ban bill is coming to be jammed through at end of session. None of it will reduce crime, IMO. They claim suicide will go down in youth, but they'll just go grab some fentanyl instead if it is that important.
On climate change and drought, I think the Anasazi indians had that 900 years ago in SW Colorado. Their climate changed. I guess they should have stopped using gas powered cars then? Scientists recently said covid vaccines prevent infection, and so do masks. You keep trusting them, Ill pass.
As far as abortion goes, I think the odds of washington banning it are zero, and there is no risk of that. Again, voters can't think critically. While it ridiculous, its not my job to change their opinion, and Im not trying too. Just stating a fact. It slike saying our public lands will be sold, sorry, ain't gonna happen, but lets play that up and get some cash and votes from it.
"Most of the scientists I have heard and read believe humans are contributing significantly to climate change. Forest fires are burning millions of acres in the west each year and they are hotter that when I was a wild-land firefighter. What is your solution?" Swede, this is so laughable! The facts are being suppressed about forest management is truly the problem with today's super fires, when you stop most all logging and other forest maintenance and leave so much fire fuel laying around your going to get huge fires and lots more of them, the facts are there.
"The latest data show that people use guns for self-defense only rarely. According to a Harvard University analysis of figures from the National Crime Victimization Survey, people defended themselves with a gun in nearly 0.9 percent of crimes from 2007 to 2011." The person most likely to be killed by your gun is you or someone in your family" More liberal left propaganda, how about you post your source of info on your claim of self defense with a gun!? If anyone wants to google it they will see Swede's comments are way off track. Sounds like the typical Liberal fear mongering that has infested the US.
As for Colorado, there are 4 people that came to Co. with the full intent to change this great state to their liking. These 4 are extremely wealthy, I call them the 4 horsemen of the Colorado Appacolipse- https://capitalresearch.org/article/colorados-big-blue-political-machine-part-2/. 3 of the 4 are anti-hunting & anti a lot of other things. Polis and many of the other politicians are just meer tools in their over all plans. For this state to turn even slightly back to conservitive will take a massive wave of people to flip it. And that means we would more than 4-million people in Front Range LA to do so. I still very much love this great state, the disease that has infested it is only going to grow worse in the years to come.
"As far as abortion goes, I think the odds of washington banning it are zero," Sell that to the young lady that listed to the supreme court nominees claim Roe vs. Wade was settled law. " If anyone wants to google it they will see Swede's comments are way off track." I did Google the info. I posted. But who can believe a liberal institution like Harvard University? This following stats were from Psychology Today: What we find is this: "One justified gun death per 2 accidental deaths Five justified deaths per accidental child death About 1000 illegal deaths per justified death About 100 suicides per justified death About 100 homicides per 2 justified deaths"
Swede, Harvard put's out info that isn't tainted by liberal left propaganda !? Right! Harvard is one of the most liberal influenced universities there is.
When Trump started his run, I was told on here that he wasn't hijacking the party, YOU GUYS wanted him. Well, you got him, and all the wack jobs like him, running the party now. The far right is much more dangerous than the far left is to our democracy. And the Democrats keep their wackos, more under control than the Republicans do theirs.
From the Washington Post, the second most leftist daily publication in the country. They saw this coming way before SUVs were invented.
Just what is the risk to democracy? Jan6th?
The election was stolen, but it was the Chinese government that stole it with a virus release. Good thing biden is on their payroll, that'll save the democracy.
If far right means secure borders, energy independence, less taxes to put more money in my pocket, strong military, rolling back stupid regulations and many many more great police’s then I guess I’m far right.
Not everyone wants freedom and the security to exercise it. It's scary, it comes with risks, personal accountability and the need to tolerate other people enjoying their freedom.
This is beginning to plague many states. A run of hard luck for theses states is likely to be the only thing that sets it right.
Ziek is delusional. He is also part of the problem as he has voted for Polis twice
Ziek Democrats have little control of the far left. It's why we have men competing with women. It's why we have porn in our schools. It's why we have fentanyl pouring through our borders and lawlessness in our cities. It's why we have equity now instead of equal opportunity. The whackos are in charge of public education. They are censoring through big tech. And they are controlling our investments with ESG bs. They control the media and therefore basically control truth. They have whacko climate policy. The extremists are already in power.
"One justified gun death per 2 accidental deaths".
Well if it ever happens in my house and I hope it doesn't it will be a "justified gun death" as my guns are locked from wife and kids but can be reached in about 5 seconds safely. Thankful to have the option even if there are idiots out there that contribute to this stat.
12 yards, and as the former chair of the CO Parks and Wildlife Commission noted, this current PC Commission appointed by Polis is more concerned with DEI than wildlife management and conservation.
I have to LOL at the bowlibs.
And for whoever asked, Polis would not be welcome anywhere near me. Not because he is gay, because he is a raging leftist that I abhor.
Keep making my point for me. I miss the days when we had a Democrat Party and a Republican Party, instead of a Democrat Party and the Whacko Party. But the fact is, things have gotten worse since Trumpublicanism has taken over the party. You can keep claiming it's because Democrats are in control. But you need to be honest WHY they are in control.
We are veering off course here, because Trumpublicanism has nothing to do with Polis' appointments to the Commission. But remember, Obama created Trumpublicanism. He promised to govern as a "uniter", then stuck a meat cleaver down the middle of America. Trump emerged from the carnage, and kept his promises.
TDS is a dangerous, and insidious disease, and had nothing to do with Polis or the OP.
Can’t help noticing the interest in Colorado hunting politics on Bowsite. It makes me happy. No other state gets the same attention.
Matt
I didn't even know Trump was running for Governor but Melania isn't a hard core animal rights activist like Polis' husband is, so odds are it would be a far better situation for hunters here.
GG. Yes Colorado us getting a lot of attention. But for the wrong reasons, the disaster it is becoming. Not sure why that makes you happy
It's really very sad
I like how Ziek uses his TDS to try and deflect that he is a Polis fanboy. He is honestly one of the biggest hypocrites on here, I'm not sure how anybody that considers themselves a hunter could vote for him. I'm also curious if he thinks this state is going in the right direction under the current leadership?
Many pretend they had no choice but to vote for Democrats to save us from Trump. It absolves them. Pretty handy.
Liberal brainwashing from Co at its finest here. -check Eating up all the talking points like it's cotton candy. -check Trump derangement syndrome in full effect. -check No wonder this country is screwed. -checkmate
RK, as a native life long hunter of Colorado, it pains me to see the political direction my state has taken. We can use any pro-hunting publicity we can get. Even if it’s from a bunch of NR bow hunters preaching to the choir. Thanks for your concern.
Matt
Colorado Politics reports: The prevailing sentiment following the thumping Republicans suffered in Colorado argues that a combination of factors contributed to their sweeping defeat, chiefly that Donald Trump remains a drag on the GOP among state voters and the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to undo Roe v. Wade served as a shot in the arm for Democrats despite the headwinds of soaring inflation and a high crime rate heading into the midterm elections.
But some in Colorado believe that the Democrats' dominant performance heralds a more fundamental realignment of party politics and political values in the state.
Dick Wadhams, a former Colorado Republican state chairman and veteran campaign manager, believes Democrats stand to dominate Colorado for a "generation."
When asked how long a "generation" is, he answered, "20 to 30 years."
And another state goes to crap. Until the big money donors are removed from our elections (Soros, Zuker, Gates and last election the stolen Billions from mini Madoff) the Republicans will always be swimming upstream. Liberals control almost the entire media, they control the school systems and Universities, they control Hollywood, they control Washington. If the Hunter Laptop story gets out last election, it’s likely Trump wins. I think many blue states will turn back more conservative once disaster sets in, and it shouldn’t take 20-30 years.
