Crossbow herbicide?
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From: 32Timbers
19-Jul-23
I killed off an old food plot, tilled and getting ready to respray. Ran out of glysophate so went to buy some more and they sold me crossbow. They did not have glysophate in stock. Said it was basically the same thing. Is that correct?
From: Catscratch
19-Jul-23
Not even close to the same thing. Crossbow will only kill broadleaf plant and it has a residual (3-4wks?). I think it's a mix of 2,4d and triclopyr.
From: GFL
19-Jul-23
Wait another month to plant your plot.
From: smurph
19-Jul-23
crossbow is way more expensive then glyphosate as well.
From: 32Timbers
19-Jul-23
Thanks. Is their any benefit to keeping it, mixing it in with glysophate?
From: BullBuster
19-Jul-23
Excellent for brushy species like invasive black berries.
From: pav
19-Jul-23
We've used Crossbow to knock down invasive multiflora rose on the farm for years.
From: Starfire
19-Jul-23
Crossbow is 2, 4-D Which is a broadleaf herbicide and the active ingredient in Ortho Weed-be-Gone. According to Jeff Sturgis it takes a little longer to break down than Glyphosate and should not be sprayed 4 weeks before planting.
From: Kydeer1
19-Jul-23
These guys are partially right. Crossbow has 2 ingredients 2,4 d ester and triclopyr. 2,4 d will knock out broadleafs and the triclopyr will kill woody stuff and broadleafs. It's not really grass specific so I'd consider gly. However, I've used it before and it flat kills about everything mixed with gly. The downside is it's long residual which I wasn't aware of. If I'm not mistaken I think it's like 90 days. Be prepared for that in planting times.
From: Catscratch
19-Jul-23
I just did some interneting. Please read the label and the entire chem sheet with it. Like Kydeer said, the residual can be very long. Up to or longer than a year if used incorrectly (according to the internet). I'd hate to see you end up with a plot that won't grow anything. If it were me I'd take it back for a refund and tell them to pound sand for saying it's the same as gly.
From: Thornton
20-Jul-23
I admitted a guy to ICU about ten years ago that accidentally inhaled Crossbow as he was spraying on his tractor. He came in with rhonchi and shortness of breath and was diagnosed with pneumonia. He inhaled so much,his symptoms started almost instantly. I was told a few years ago by the county weed dept they either don't make it anymore,or they don't buy it anymore.
From: Pop-r
20-Jul-23
They make it. It's good stuff but it's not the same as gly as night isn't to day.
From: smurph
20-Jul-23
Listen to Kydeer1, he is spot on. Anytime you mix chemicals and spray them into the air you could have respiratory issues if you inhale too much, are hyper sensitive, or have related health issues. Crossbow not specifically more or less risky in that regard. Also, pretty sure 2,4 D volatilizes at 70 degrees. So no go on hot days for a couple reasons. If I am wrong on that let me know.
From: 32Timbers
20-Jul-23
I ended up returning it and found some glysopahate to purchase. Thanks for the help. Sounds like a dodged some potential problems.
From: 32Timbers
20-Jul-23
I ended up returning it and found some glysopahate to purchase. Thanks for the help. Sounds like a dodged some potential problems.
From: JSW
20-Jul-23
All of the popular broadleaf herbicides have residual effects that can last for quite a while. 2, 4 D, Triclopyr, Escort, Tordon, etc. Crop dusters won't spray a pasture with them if your neighbor is planning to plant soybeans near you. You can use them on grass or sorghum/milo, which is a grass. Be very careful to use it around beans, brassica's, peas, etc.
Roundup/glyphosate is different. It is theoretically used to kill everything. You can spray it one day and plant the next.
From: Pop-r
21-Jul-23
Soybeans are very susceptible as you say. I've heard of Grazon Next HL (which is 2-4D and aminopyrilad) hindering beans for up to 4 years.
From: t-roy
21-Jul-23
There have been 2,4-D resistant soybeans out for the past several years. Enlist E3 and other brands, can be sprayed with 2,4-D (Enlist), glufosinate (Liberty or generic versions), and glyphosate (Roundup or generic versions). Enlist will kill a lot of broadleaves, including glyphosate tolerant ones, but not grasses, so glyphosate or glufosinate should be added as well, if grasses are an issue. Most 2,4-D has a pretty short residual (2-3 weeks), but there are a few different types of them that have a much longer residual, so read the label. I believe Crossbow may be one of those.
From: APauls
21-Jul-23
If only there was a herbicide for crossbows. Unfortunately they seem to just keep reproducing.
From: t-roy
21-Jul-23
They’re becoming more resistant and (ob)noxious, too!
From: Burt
27-Jul-23
We use 2 4D on hay fields and pastures. Used fall and spring does a good job clearing out buttercups and other garbage without hurting the grasses.
