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Wow beautiful, congratulations tot he hunter and outfitter.
Uff da!!
Thanks for sharing
The outfitter on the Gov tag posted that it was a team effort of 15 guys and combined 300+ days in the field. The “team leader” did 73 days.
Obviously nothing new here. Seen it plenty with Jimmy John, high priced sheep tags etc. But my question is how are those 15 guys getting paid? Unless these hunts are $150k+ I don’t see how there’s enough money to filter down to that many fellows in order to justify the time spent. Maybe 12/15 are 19 years old and ok being paid in Swaros and Crispis? Always wondered about these super outfitter armies and how the money flows.
There’s supposedly a 450+ bull in the NV unit where I drew an archery cow elk tag. I was wondering why there were multiple trail cams setup at every waterhole I scouted back in June then found out about the rumored bulk from a friend and also noted that a landowner tag for the unit sold for $80,000 at the Nevada Bighorns Unlimited banquet earlier this year. In addition , one of the two Heritage (aka Governor’s) tags sold for $220,000 but I can’t find what the other Heritage tag sold for. We also saw multiple spotters (young guys) looking for elk in the unit last September but apparently the big bull disappeared before the season after last being seen near a wilderness area.
Stay tuned since I’d suspect the governor tag holders, the person who paid $80,000 for the landowner tag might kill the bull this year with help from their paid posse. Hell, if you can drop $220,000 on the tag what’s another 1/4 million to hire a posse of guides and spotters. My money is on one of the two governor tag holders since they can start hunting August 1, which is the same day my archery cow elk hunt starts and continue through 12/31.
Always a shame, when lots of money is raised for Conservation
Different ways to pay for extra help. Usually per person per diem rate agreed upon with the outfitter. If you think its too much its not for you!
I agree 100%, Pop-r.
Matt
That money just makes ALL the difference in the world doesn't it. Has made habitat 14x better than it was before we had those tags huh John.
Pop-r.
What does the money go to? I don't know that's why I am asking
Appears whoring is fine ..... if it's for enough $.
They jack up the price of the other “normal” hunters they take out to make up for it and pay the posse.
Whoring has been a way of life since the first whore Bluedog. Not sure who that was but I bet she knew Eve Nothing to see here on that level.
So anybody. Where does let’s say the $200,000 that purchased the tag end up
Outfitter is contracted and paid separately
Anyone have a clue?
I like you're a realist RK.... it's the deniers that amuse me.
I hired a young guy 17 years old about 15 years ago. Totally green and zero elk hunting experience. But he had a passion for it and worked hard. That’s him in the back. I used to call him Pilgrim. Now I’m asking him to take me hunting down there. He says it’s insane. They spot 350 plus bulls from the road…. and walk away! There might be a good but of money involved but it’s still fair chase. I asked why so early. He said those big bulls rut on the reservation and once they move on there it’s all over so it’s now or never. I never thought to ask him how much he got paid for that hunt but I am going to ask.
The world is what it is bluedog, never going to change, you know that !!
On a side bar.
Tigers still kill and eat people in India and other places. Maneaters. When one starts to do that a professional gov. Hunter is assigned to go kill it We worked for years to get the Indian Gov. to allow even just one of those maneaters to be killed by a sport hunter, who would buy that honor by by being the highest bidder. The majority of the funds raised would go to additional Tiger Habitat. Can you even imagine what a single Tiger permit would sell for on the World Wide Market
We got no place with that plan
So nobody here knows where the money from these gov. Tags and special tags go to. But several can pass judgement on how they are the demise of hunting as we know it
Priceless, simply Priceless
The money is probably just wasted, like the majority of money given to any governmental entity.
I'd agree with you about governmental entities. However I think the tags generally go to and organizations such as RMEF, Mule Deer Foundation, Wild Sheep Foundation just to name a few. They do good work.
They get some of the money for sure, but I know of a couple states that take 80-90% back. Guessing that’s the norm elsewhere. Don’t believe hardly any of these tags are fully donated.
Where the money goes depends on the type of tag and the state.
Just beautiful, phenomenal bulls! Unbelievable that it’s on public land. The Diamond Outfitters bull is really something special.
From my experience and what I’ve been told by some directors of WSF and NBU, the standard is for the selling org to get 10% of the proceeds, the auctioneer gets their cut too while the states get most of the funds. I can’t speak for other states but in NV these funds are well used can only be used for wildlife conservation and enhancement. This per state law and if you really want to know the exact details of the law do an internet search of “NRS 501.3575”. Many big game guzzlers have been built and many sheep transplanted and herds have had their range expanded as result of these funds. Same for elk in the early days. I remember when there weren’t any elk hunts in Nevada now there are enough to give us all false hope of drawing a tag.
"...now there are enough to give us all false hope of drawing a tag."
That made me lol, Scott! :-)
All because of these tags huh Tilz.
I doubt that Pop but I bet they helped some. No doubt dollars spent well enhance wildlife.
I knew some would condemn this hunters, outfitters, and states. My brother and I bought up 700 acres of land in the 80's, We heard and hear the same type of comments. It is our choice, expense and now privilege to own, and improve it. Same for these hunters, they made the choice, earned the money, and deserve it.
The opportunity shouldn't be there to enjoy. I may cash out on one too but that doesn t make it right.
It does not make it wrong!
"I'd agree with you about governmental entities. However, I think the tags generally go to and organizations such as RMEF, Mule Deer Foundation, Wild Sheep Foundation just to name a few."
John, not in Arizona where these pics are from. The organizations that sell the permits don't get a penny. 100% of the funds raised go back to the "house".
curious if these are unit 23 bulls.
