$6 Billion Ransom to Iran
General Topic
Biden an Blinken chose the 22nd anniversary of the murderous muslim terrorist attack on this nation to announce the release of 6 billion dollars in Iranian funds, held in sanctions, as ransom in exchange for 5 Americans held by Iran. Oh yes, in addition we released 5 Iranian terrorists. Another disappointment from the Biden administration. Another weak capitulation to our enemies.
Blinken said the Iranian agreed to "use the money only for medical supplies, food, and other humanitarian efforts. I guess we should just take their word for that.
Wow our leaders are getting richer and richer by the day. How is Hawaii doing?
Nothing to see here, move along. I predict our faithful few will explain the very good reason for it here shortly...
"This money belongs to the Iranian people, the Iranian government, so the Islamic Republic of Iran will decide what to do with this money," Raisi said Tuesday. "Humanitarian means whatever the Iranian people needs, so this money will be budgeted for those needs and the needs of the Iranian people will be decided and determined by the Iranian government."
Hunter said 6 million to the old man and they thought they heard 6 billion to Iran
Funds supposed to be monitored by a third party So. Korea?
Some of you anti hunters voted for this.
Altitude, now that there is funny!!
I didn't think we were supposed to negotiate with terrorists
I am positive that this money will go to LGBQIGFM+++ humanitarian aid across Iran and the Muslim world!
They will print lots of gay pornography for educational purposes for their children and distribute to all the little Muslim boys and girls!
This money will also go to help with all the gender reassignment surgeries that are so desperately needed in those countries!
Probably help fund goats for every muslim that wants one for his “personal pet” as GFM’s need love too!
Libtards…
I'm looking for the correct answer and not a political answer. Was this not actually Iranian assets that were being held by the United States that was released? I do know that the United States was holding for years billions of dollars in Iranian assets/ Investments in the US.
$1.7 billion from Obama, $6 billion from Joe.
Way easier to take a few American prisoners than it is to produce and sell 100,000,000 barrels of crude.
"I'm looking for the correct answer and not a political answer."
You're new around here, ain't ya? >;-)
Teeton, yes they were frozen Iranian assets. It's mentioned in the original post.
I read this earlier and jump on bowsite tonight. Should of reread it. I'm sure I wouldn't of posted such a stupid question.
Danc, I've only been on bowsite since Pat came to a UBP banquet telling everybody about both site. That was like 1989 or 1990?? I guess that why I asked, because if all the political posts. Bowsite is not about archery only anymore.
I need to be honest with myself about this. I agree with all the comments criticizing this decision but what is it was one of my loved one who were being held in Iran? Would my position be different?
Teeton you were on Bowsite almost ten years before it was created? Lol
Fuzzy, i dont remember when. But Pat came to a Ubp banquet in Pa and gave a presentation on it. Thats why I put the two question marks. I guess it was 1999 or 2000. My point was, I was on it from the start.
"I need to be honest with myself about this. I agree with all the comments criticizing this decision but what is it was one of my loved one who were being held in Iran? Would my position be different?"
It's a difficult decision. But it's a known fact that when a ransom is paid, it invites criminals (or rogue nations) to continue kidnapping innocent people for profit. In this case, other outlaw dictators will see Biden's weakness and realize he will fold to their demands if leveraged with hostages. The message to these criminals must be," If you harm our people in any way you will pay a big price".......and that message must be believable through actions. Hostages are always someone's loved one, but the way to stop kidnappings is brute force. It's what criminals, and criminal nations, understand.
If my loved one was hostage, would do about anything to get them home.
Next hypothetical: If you knew your loved one was the next to be taken prisoner because of this policy of trading money for prisoners, how would you feel?
"But it's a known fact that when a ransom is paid, it invites criminals (or rogue nations) to continue kidnapping innocent people for profit.".....same affect as releasing a whole pile of terrorist prisoners.
Gregg,
"but what is it was one of my loved one who were being held in Iran?"
WHAT IF????? That hypothetical question has only one consideration. How did they get into that position? Was there no consideration of risk in being there?
Daniel Pearl (October 10, 1963 – February 1, 2002) was an American journalist who worked for The Wall Street Journal. On January 23, 2002, he was kidnapped near a restaurant in downtown Karachi and murdered by terrorists in Pakistan.
Pearl's kidnapping was carried out by Islamist militants after Pearl had gone to Pakistan as part of an investigation into the alleged links between British citizen Richard Reid (known as the "Shoe Bomber") and al-Qaeda. Pearl was beheaded by his captors, who later released a video of his brutal execution.
A Jew travels to Muslim Pakistan .......................to investigate the bad guys living there..................DUH
I suspect Daniel was a leftist. What if Daniel recognized the obvious danger and didn't take that assignment for good reason? I don't think Daniel was wise to go there, nor do I think it is wise for America to empower our enemies, at the expense of encouraging hostage taking.
It's the Barbary Coast pirate situation that Thomas Jefferson tackled in the early 1800's. When will America learn?
Will the people freed pay it back?
My oldest traveled to France shortly after Brittney Griner was traded for. Gave me considerable concern sending him to Europe with the knowledge that Russia was rewarded for ransoming Americans. Gave me even more concern knowing that my boy isn't the right demographics to be considered worth saving by our president. Our world is becoming more dangerous by the minute.
"I suspect Daniel was a leftist.".....soooooo what does that have to do with the topic being discussed ?
"I suspect Daniel was a leftist.".....soooooo what does that have to do with the topic being discussed ?
Defective judgement, not wise?
"Defective judgement, not wise?".....what does that have to do with the question ?
Frank, all rightists have perfect judgement and are blessed with wisdom. Didn't you get the memo? >;-)
So before you all jump on me, I'm just playing devil's advocate here. . . . If it was Iran's frozen assets that was given up, where exactly did the US lose on this? It wasn't even our money, right?
So we kinda paid them with their own coin right?
"If it was Iran's frozen assets that was given up, where exactly did the US lose on this? It wasn't even our money, right?" "So we kinda paid them with their own coin right?"....oh don't cloud the thread with logical reasoning and thinking. That will destroy the momentum.
Bake. That's not the problem at all. Of course it's their money. Question is what will they use it for.
Im guessing for the rights to the first mushroom cloud over Israel and/or Riyadh
Who knows just a guess on my part and other guesses are just as valid because nobody on this chat group has a clue
RK--like I said, I'm just playing devil's advocate :) You know I rarely contribute to the political threads, but then sometimes you see a post like "Are the released people going to pay it back?" And you think "Pay what back? It's Iran's money"
Serious question: Where do frozen funds due to sanctions against a country ultimately go? Is it just sitting in escrow forever? Do we keep it? UN? I'm serious. Does anybody know the answer? I don't.
"all rightists have perfect judgement and are blessed with wisdom."
Not all......but most.
"Question is what will they use it for. Im guessing for the rights to the first mushroom cloud over Israel and/or Riyadh"
Correct. Or NY. Or DC.
Bake x 2. RK x 10. Wild Bill x 250. That’s the way I see it.
One day Iran didn't have the 6 billion dollars. The next day, they did. They accomplished that by trading Americans they took prisoner.
Thats not a great lesson to teach a terrorist supporting, American hating adversary.
Sundowner you are right on two points.
Our govt is so screwed up. Why do people defend these things when we keep making shitty deals?
Release 5 American prisoners for 5 Iranian prisioners.....ok
Release 5 American prisoners and release the $6 billion to Iran.....ok.
Release 5 American prisoners for 5 Iranian prisioners AND the $6 Billion....WTF
Not sure how/where the Americans were captured but why can't we (as Americans) stay out of these sketchy places and go back to the "We don't bargain with terrorists" stance?
Is everybody uninformed. Its my understanding the money Iran got was their OWN money that had been frozen in US banks. So we got prisoners by ransoming them from Iran by giving them their own money back. Not a bad deal.
People know it was frozen Iranian money. Even says it in the original post here. The point is the key to unfreezing it was taking US people prisoner.
Whether it's pallets of tax payer cash or inaccessible Iranian money, they started the week without it and ended with 6 billion dollars.
American prisoners are good for business.
" American prisoners are good for business. "
As are dumbass Americans who travel to Iran. Or China. Or NK. Or... There's enough to do and to enjoy right here. F* those third-world s*holes.
