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Hold out for the monster buck?
Whitetail Deer
Contributors to this thread:
wildwilderness 21-Nov-23
StickFlicker 21-Nov-23
Brotsky 21-Nov-23
Michael 21-Nov-23
KHNC 21-Nov-23
wildwilderness 21-Nov-23
Bou'bound 21-Nov-23
Ambush 21-Nov-23
KY EyeBow 21-Nov-23
Catscratch 21-Nov-23
buckeye 21-Nov-23
Bowboy 21-Nov-23
wildwilderness 21-Nov-23
sitO 21-Nov-23
APauls 21-Nov-23
Jack Harris 21-Nov-23
W 21-Nov-23
Zbone 21-Nov-23
midwest 21-Nov-23
Bowfreak 21-Nov-23
wildwilderness 21-Nov-23
wildwilderness 21-Nov-23
molsonarcher 21-Nov-23
Zbone 21-Nov-23
Glunt@work 21-Nov-23
wildwilderness 22-Nov-23
Ambush 22-Nov-23
Zbone 22-Nov-23
fuzzy 22-Nov-23
Hunts_with_stick 23-Nov-23
Franzen 23-Nov-23
Shug 23-Nov-23
Pat Lefemine 23-Nov-23
Dale06 23-Nov-23
TREESTANDWOLF 23-Nov-23
Cazador 23-Nov-23
TREESTANDWOLF 24-Nov-23
scentman 24-Nov-23
wildwilderness 24-Nov-23
wildwilderness 24-Nov-23
wildwilderness 24-Nov-23
wildwilderness 24-Nov-23
wildwilderness 24-Nov-23
t-roy 24-Nov-23
Bowboy 24-Nov-23
Bowboy 24-Nov-23
Zbone 24-Nov-23
midwest 24-Nov-23
buckeye 25-Nov-23
wildwilderness 25-Nov-23
wildwilderness 25-Nov-23
wildwilderness 25-Nov-23
caribou77 25-Nov-23
wildwilderness 25-Nov-23
wildwilderness 25-Nov-23
wildwilderness 25-Nov-23
Bowboy 25-Nov-23
Bou’bound 25-Nov-23
wildwilderness 26-Nov-23
wildwilderness 26-Nov-23
wildwilderness 26-Nov-23
Brian M. 26-Nov-23
sitO 26-Nov-23
t-roy 26-Nov-23
SBH 26-Nov-23
buckeye 26-Nov-23
wildwilderness 26-Nov-23
WV Mountaineer 26-Nov-23
Bowboy 26-Nov-23
molsonarcher 26-Nov-23
buckfevered 26-Nov-23
HUNT MAN 26-Nov-23
dakotaduner 26-Nov-23
Scoot 26-Nov-23
TMac 26-Nov-23
APauls 26-Nov-23
Zbone 26-Nov-23
njbuck 27-Nov-23
Catscratch 27-Nov-23
iceman 27-Nov-23
wildwilderness 28-Nov-23
midwest 28-Nov-23
Bou'bound 28-Nov-23
Willieboat 28-Nov-23
wildwilderness 28-Nov-23
sitO 28-Nov-23
21-Nov-23

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Injured back left leg
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Injured back left leg
I’m hunting a brand new lease and have been running cameras for 2 weeks.

One evening I had a monster buck with an injured back leg show up and feed for a while on Nov 17.

Hasn’t showed since… how long would you hold out hoping he may come back? (Eastern Kansas)

From: StickFlicker
21-Nov-23
I usually hold out until the very end, but your mileage may vary.

From: Brotsky
21-Nov-23
I'd go hunting and shoot whatever makes me happy. If he's the only thing that would make me happy, then I hold out all season. If something else comes along that trips my trigger, then I won't hold out anymore. Just have fun and enjoy yourself!

From: Michael
21-Nov-23
Middle of the night and one night tells me you’re not in his core area. At least not with that camera anyways. Being that it was Nov 17th that deer could have ventured onto you for a day or two and went back home. That hind leg is the wildcard. How far is he willing to travel with that and how much.

From: KHNC
21-Nov-23
I probably wouldnt hold out much for a buck that you get pics of in November on a new property. If you had it all year, and the buck has been a resident, thats a different story.

21-Nov-23
I only have this week to hunt then maybe a few days after Christmas- lots of travel.

Not core area, I can already tell the regular bucks, which are nice but not this level…

From: Bou'bound
21-Nov-23
I’d hold out no longer than 6 minutes.

From: Ambush
21-Nov-23
Maybe coyotes got him already.

From: KY EyeBow
21-Nov-23
Ur decision buddy. Too many variables for us to answer that question for YOU! Who knows, you may have some there better than him?? Shoot what makes you happy and celebrate it

From: Catscratch
21-Nov-23
I'd wait until the last minute of season, or until a bigger one walked by, or until one walked by that I was in the mood to shoot... just because it struck me as prudent at the moment. To be honest I have no problem eating tag soup while waiting for a biggin. I get to hunt more that way. With that said I've shot some small bucks just because they decoyed in in a spectacular way, or because I felt like eating fresh tenderloin that night, or because my nephew and niece were visiting and I wanted to get them in on a blood trail.

From: buckeye
21-Nov-23
Due to atrophy, that deer don't have much in the way of a left ham. I'd shoot the one standing next to him.

From: Bowboy
21-Nov-23
I would hold for a while and see if he reappears.

21-Nov-23

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Left leg
wildwilderness's embedded Photo
Left leg
What has been your experience with big bucks leaving their core area in late season?

What will happen with that injury? Survive winter? If so grow big antlers next year?

From: sitO
21-Nov-23
Set a First Aid kit out by the corn pile and see if you can lure him in...but it's going to be more of a challenge so prepare yourself

From: APauls
21-Nov-23
One pic? Midnight at that? He's in the back of my mind but no way I'd hold out for him unless there is literally nothing else I want to shoot. But in that instance the problem is that there is nothing that trips my trigger. But go "one buck or bust" on a buck that I had only one instance of knowing it was around? Fools errand IMO.

I chased a wounded buck with a bad back leg that lived on the piece I had permission on and killed him only after 4 years. Wouldn't come to calls or anything. Tougher to kill than had he been healthy IMO.

From: Jack Harris
21-Nov-23
i suspect that is an old injury that predates his 2023 antlers, hence the lack of symmetry and having more of a non-typical opposite side of bad leg .

I also have experience taking a 6.5 yr old NJ buck that had same type of leg injury. He was smart, always on camera, never ranged far, but went two years not even seeing him from a stand until I killed him late October.

So I think you should target him but try to figure out where he is bedding, the odds of getting him to come to bait during day might be difficult unless you get some bitter cold weather and snow.

From: W
21-Nov-23
One pic at night. Not much to go on. If you’ve killed a bunch of big deer, then hold out. Otherwise, I’d tag out on a good buck and go home.

From: Zbone
21-Nov-23
I agree with Jack, old injury, opposite side rack nontypical... Looks like his hip was broke too... Am guessing old car wreck... He'll walk with a limp and run a little funny, but if he doesn't get shot he'll make it through winter... I've see a bunch of 3 legged deer, and they all got around fine... Good luck after him...

From: midwest
21-Nov-23
Really cool buck.

From: Bowfreak
21-Nov-23
If you are asking me, I’ve already shot something else. Lol.

21-Nov-23

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Mass
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Mass
I have not killed any big whitetails, not even 1 would make P&Y! There are a couple 150-160” bucks showing up in daylight… but I know you can’t kill a big one if you shoot the smaller ones :)

This buck came for one night for 1 hour.

If it’s an old injury then there is hope he will survive if I don’t get him this year- and grow at least a similar size rack?

21-Nov-23

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Mass
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Mass
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Double post. I did get a number of pictures during the hour he was on camera

From: molsonarcher
21-Nov-23
If you have 150-160” bucks showing in the daylight and have never killed a big whitetail, you probably just answered your own question. Theres also a good chance your wounded buck is not the dominant buck due to his previous injury, and avoids the areas where the more dominant bucks are. If so, you may never lay eyes on him. JMO

From: Zbone
21-Nov-23
One and gone, seeing a buck once during the rut is common around here during the rut, the same with knowing a buck's home core area then disappear during the rut and if he survives the thundersticks see him back again in his area at late winter food source... Depends on the deer density and hunting pressure, but think some travel further than many think chasing does... A hot doe takes him out of his area, then before he returns home hooks up with another hot doe taking him to another area and so on... I think it depends on buck to doe ratio on how far they'll travel... The more does at home, the less travel only makes sense...

From: Glunt@work
21-Nov-23
I would hold out until another buck gives me a shot.

22-Nov-23
He came back!

From: Ambush
22-Nov-23
Is he dead!?!

From: Zbone
22-Nov-23
Man, that's a nice buck, get after him

From: fuzzy
22-Nov-23
< the next legal deer. I eat venison.

23-Nov-23
Botsky, yup- that’s what I do. Whatever makes me happy

From: Franzen
23-Nov-23
Good that he's still around. Very, very few people pass 160" deer, and you probably shouldn't either. If I were doing it all over again, I'd get more smaller bucks under my belt. I basically shoot what I want when I want it though... does, 1.5 bucks, and fawns eat the best to me. The only deer I make it a point not to shoot are those nicer 2.5 (or 3.5 maybe) bucks that have real potential in a year or two.

From: Shug
23-Nov-23
Congratulations

From: Pat Lefemine
23-Nov-23

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One in a million but this time it worked. I’d definitely focus on late season food sources if it was my ground
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One in a million but this time it worked. I’d definitely focus on late season food sources if it was my ground
Damn, that’s a once in a lifetime buck. Not sure what you’re hunting pressure is like, how big your ground is, or what your crops are like. But on my ground in Ohio I’m hunting exclusively for that buck by targeting late season food sources. It’s the best time to kill an old buck after the rut.

And if you recall, I did this on a previously live hunt with Rob Nye in Saskatchewan. He had one pic in a 100k acre forest. Said my chance of killing him was about zero. But since he was close to 200” asked me if I wanted to devote my hunt. I said yes and killed him on the last day of my 7 day bowhunt. Neither Rob nor I could believe it, but it did. But it’s definitely gonna be ridiculously hard and the odds are stacked against you.

From: Dale06
23-Nov-23
Shoot what makes you happy.

23-Nov-23
Late season Very cold temps Food source PM hunts only

Good luck and get him.

From: Cazador
23-Nov-23
If he’s on a feeder, I know nothing about that, but seeing him once is good enough for me. Hunting based on a camera capturing a small segment of what’s out there, Toss it and hunt!

24-Nov-23
DP

From: scentman
24-Nov-23
If your hunting for sport an bragging rights hold out for the biggun... if freezer is full and family is fat an happy, I couldn't think of a better place to be other than a tree stand in November!

24-Nov-23

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Broken blacktail
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Broken blacktail
Wow, has been very busy but it worked out-

When I saw this buck I knew I had to make a change of n my plans for the week!

I was in Oregon with my oldest son hunting Blacktail. I completed my deer slam last year here with a spike on the last day of the hunt. So I was hoping to get a P&Y sized buck. My boy has not shot a Columbia Blacktail so he came as well.

We saw a spike the day we got there and the next day a couple forkies sparing the second day. My son is in College and assured me he could hunt the Blacktails by himself and that I had to go chase the big buck.

I booked the flight the next AM Early. That day he saw this nice broken blacktail

24-Nov-23
Double post

24-Nov-23
I was in a rush because the last I had put bait out was over a week prior and there had been a lot of activity. I was worried the buck might come back and the bait gone.

I did not hunt to avoid the area and putting too much pressure.

My son was having much better luck!

24-Nov-23

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Arrow
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Arrow
My son passed on that broken buck because we thought there must be one good enough to have won the fight!

I think part of the reason my boy was good with me leaving was that would give more options at bucks!

The plan was he would shoot first to get the species and I would hold out for a PY.

Well Monday morning the bigger buck showed up and my son made a shot- said it felt good, but saw it jump a fence…. He was worried there wasn’t much blood to follow.

This is where i did feel bad I wasn’t there to help with the tracking. I told him to wait longer, looks like liver blood.

24-Nov-23

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Awesome Columbia Blacktail!!
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Awesome Columbia Blacktail!!
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Big Blacktail
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Big Blacktail
A few hours later he got on the blood trail and found the buck!

I was so glad for him! Now he only needs a coues for the deer slam

From: t-roy
24-Nov-23
Heck of a black tail! Congrats to your son.

From: Bowboy
24-Nov-23
Awesome Blacktail buck your son killed congrats to him!

From: Bowboy
24-Nov-23
The dreaded double post

From: Zbone
24-Nov-23
Nice Blacktail, Congrats to your son...

Pat - I remember your Saskatchewan hunt story and that magnificent buck... Truly a buck of a lifetime... Curious, did you enter him in B&C, and if so what was his official score? Thanks...

From: midwest
24-Nov-23
Man, that's a beauty! congrats to your boy!

From: buckeye
25-Nov-23
That's a slob of a blacktail, congratulations to your boy.. wow

25-Nov-23
I had a lot of work to do to find this buck- I had to put in a stand, cut lanes. Also places 2 more cameras hoping to see if I could catch him at another spot and maybe find his core area.

All that and plenty of work on my own property as those who own land know there is no End to work to be done!

No luck with more pictures but I did get a much better under of how deer move on this property

25-Nov-23

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This buck was all over the lease
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This buck was all over the lease
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I saw him in person when’s setting a stand
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I saw him in person when’s setting a stand
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Had some broken tines and eyeguard
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Had some broken tines and eyeguard
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The weather forecast was looking good- a big cold snap coming Thanksgiving. I had cleared the week with my patient understanding wife (lucky my birthday is this week)

I did not sit any stands Sunday, Monday or Tuesday not wanting to disturb the area, but also as a form of self control since a couple other nice bucks were all over in daylight and I’d be really tempted to shoot!

25-Nov-23

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Great buck
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Great buck
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Daylight pics
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Daylight pics
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There was another amazing buck that looked young and had what looked like a broken right G4.

He has huge potential. Buts it’s an unknown on the rifle hunt pressure in this area. I do t know if I could pass him….

From: caribou77
25-Nov-23
Wow you definitely have plenty of good deer running around! Waiting for the other big buck is completely up to you…. He’s great and you’ll never shoot him if you shoot a different deer but don’t pass on something that makes you smile either. Getting one specific deer can be pure dumb luck, even when he’s your target. Enjoy hunting, we do this for fun, not because we are starving and need the meat.

25-Nov-23

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Nice 12
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Nice 12
Then Tuesday night back at my property a buck that lives on the neighbors shows up rutting all over!

Another tempting buck that would score well as a clean typical.

It was getting really hard to hold out for the huge crippled buck! Thus the point of this thread.

25-Nov-23

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Hopefully a chance at him next year
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Hopefully a chance at him next year
With it now apparent I would miss Thanksgiving with my immediate family and the In Laws etc. I knew it would be tough to come back in the late season- I was hoping as Pat mentioned to have a chance the last week between Christmas and New Years but as the family plans were being made I knew I couldn’t make it back.

So Wednesday am I did sit my property for a chance at the 12- I knew he only rutted on mine, and the neighbor most likely would get him next year if I didn’t (He had already tagged out on an even bigger super wide 10 point)

As luck would have it I didn’t get a shot but saw him- looked like a 4 yr old, will be great for next year.

25-Nov-23
Wednesday afternoon- the Cold weather was hitting that night and dropping 20+ degrees the next couple days.

I had put a stand up on the spot but looking at the wind it wasn’t perfect.

I needed to move to the east to clear west tree line in case a buck came from the wrong direction.

This way my scent would blow out into the open field. No way a smart big buck would walk out in the wide open field coming in!

I did think it would be easier to just set the stand I already put up, but the thought that you can’t mess up on a big buck kept nagging me and I put up a new stand midday

From: Bowboy
25-Nov-23
Good luck!

From: Bou’bound
25-Nov-23
Congrats.

26-Nov-23
I got into the new stand and checked the wind- blowing down the middle of the open field to my right.

Large thick hard woods to my left. I settle in for the day. Weather is really nice, it’s the warm before the storm!

After a few hours I haven’t seen a thing. I think to my self this is usually the time something happens if it does….

It’s 4:20 pm over an hour left of shooting light…. And I catch movement with my peripheral vision to my right,

A deer was coming down the hill at the top of the field… no mistaking it was the big buck!!

I start freaking out that he is coming from almost down wind! I pray he crosses the field to the west tree line to get away from my scent.. doesn’t happen

It was the longest walk as I slowly got up and ready- I was exposed at that side with the open field.

The buck continues down the middle right on my scent line At 45 yds he turns broadside and looks like he is going to circle down wind of the bait…..

I tense to get ready incase I have to take that long shot- he turns back and continues Limping in 40, 36, 30, 24 yds and still closing!

I slowly lower the range finder and get ready to draw. I must be starting to shake or something .

The buck takes a couple steps- there is a tree in-front of me where I was planning to draw when the head goes behind. But he stops right before and does a final check-

I get pegged in the tree! The buck is lifted his head and staring right at me and does that head nod! At some point I don’t recall I come to full draw and Curse the tiny branches I left on that tree which were over the vitals.

26-Nov-23

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Arrow covered
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Arrow covered
I was not going to take any chances- with a doe or small buck I have waited out the staring contest with closed eyes.

With this buck and already at full draw I spotted a patch of vitals. My pin was on it and something triggered me to release- maybe the buck moved? I was hoping the twigs would not deflect the shot it was close enough any I thought.

The arrow flew and I heard that wonderful thunk! I even saw blood at the entrance (was shooting a rage hypo given to me by njbuck in Newfoundland)

I saw the arrow hit dirt behind and the buck running (three legged) to the top of the field, pause then go into the trees.

I hear leaves kicking for a few seconds then nothing..

I had just made either the best or worse shot! It was 4:30pm. I take a few minutes to collect my wits. And climb down the tree. Go find the arrow and it looks decent. No obvious blood on the ground but I’m not looking. I focused on the spot he went in the woods

26-Nov-23

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Stars aligned
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Stars aligned
I stop myself from walking straight there. I go back to the truck to wait at least 20 min. I call my son and he is more impatient than me! Tells me to go get it!

I am not 100% sure of the shot, so come up with a plan- I’m in the corner of the property and suspect the buck crossed the road off the neighbors. I circle around and check for sign along the road and see a trail that heads straight down to the field.

This is also coming from a better wind direction and if the buck does jump it should run back into the property.

I slowly walk the trail into the wood line. Almost to the field I look around and see tines!!! I FaceTime my son and daughter and walk up to the biggest buck of my life!

From: Brian M.
26-Nov-23
No way... congrats on getting him. Beautiful buck.

From: sitO
26-Nov-23
*

From: t-roy
26-Nov-23
Beautiful buck. Congrats!

From: SBH
26-Nov-23
You did it! Congrats

From: buckeye
26-Nov-23
Well done sir, well done. Congratulations.

26-Nov-23

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All came together
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All came together
The arrow hit good up and down, I was afraid it was high, but hit further back than I thought.

I think I released right as the buck was turning to leave? The exit was quite a bit back. The buck was quartering to me harder than I remember.

The exit looked like a gut shot, but the arrow didn’t smell and when I field dressed him it actually came out low at the last rib. So close lung and full liver. Buck ran 130 yds to the end of the field then died in the tree line, blood all over.

26-Nov-23
Congrats!

From: Bowboy
26-Nov-23
Great buck congrats

From: molsonarcher
26-Nov-23
Beautiful buck! Congrats

From: buckfevered
26-Nov-23
Nice! Awesome buck. Congrats!

From: HUNT MAN
26-Nov-23
Congrats

From: dakotaduner
26-Nov-23
Beautiful deer. Congratulations and thanks for sharing your hunt with us

From: Scoot
26-Nov-23
Outstanding! GREAT job!

From: TMac
26-Nov-23
Great buck….congrats

From: APauls
26-Nov-23
Heck yeah man - congrats!!!!! Fairy tale ending I was one of the nay sayers so I’m glad you didn’t listen to me!!

From: Zbone
26-Nov-23
WOW, amazing you were able to kill him, nice job, CONGRATS!

From: njbuck
27-Nov-23
Congrats again buddy, hell of a deer!

From: Catscratch
27-Nov-23
Congrats, hell of a buck!

From: iceman
27-Nov-23
Hell yeah! Congrats

28-Nov-23

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Dropped off at the taxidermist. My first whitetail mount and one that will probably qualify for P&Y as a non typical :)

Does anyone know a P&Y scorer in Eastern Kansas?

From: midwest
28-Nov-23
Dream buck...congrats!

From: Bou'bound
28-Nov-23
Great deer.

Surprised Nobody has asked ….

Do you have any kids and do you pass anything on to future generations

Do You belong to your state bowhunting organization

Are You a pope and young member

How many kids are precluded From hunting on the land you hunt on. Is it open to others

Are you making any money from this kill which would Make you a market hunter.

None of the above are relevant in any way to your noteworthy accomplishment, but those Questions get asked on some threads where people post great deer kills like yours.

Again, well Done.

From: Willieboat
28-Nov-23
Hell of a deer congrats!

28-Nov-23

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Must be about a failure pile or sadness spreader?
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Must be about a failure pile or sadness spreader?
Haha no I did not get any of those questions about this buck, but I did get a “*” from sitO which I assume is in regards to using a legal corn pile ;)

From: sitO
28-Nov-23
If hunting that buck is what you think you did, then we have different concepts of hunting. Sorry I hurt your feelings.

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