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Hunting permission from a golf course
Whitetail Deer
Contributors to this thread:
Jack2234 01-Dec-23
fuzzy 01-Dec-23
Nick Muche 01-Dec-23
Zbone 01-Dec-23
WhattheFOC 01-Dec-23
Timex? 01-Dec-23
DanaC 01-Dec-23
midwest 01-Dec-23
Charlie Rehor 01-Dec-23
fuzzy 01-Dec-23
greenmountain 01-Dec-23
Shug 01-Dec-23
Will 01-Dec-23
Timex? 01-Dec-23
Shug 01-Dec-23
KY EyeBow 01-Dec-23
Zbone 01-Dec-23
Insheart 01-Dec-23
WV Mountaineer 01-Dec-23
Grey Ghost 01-Dec-23
Quinn @work 01-Dec-23
Grey Ghost 01-Dec-23
Corax_latrans 01-Dec-23
Aspen Ghost 01-Dec-23
wildwilderness 01-Dec-23
fdp 01-Dec-23
Paul@thefort 01-Dec-23
Jack2234 01-Dec-23
Timex? 02-Dec-23
fuzzy 02-Dec-23
Cazador 02-Dec-23
Timex? 02-Dec-23
Cazador 02-Dec-23
Timex? 02-Dec-23
wildwilderness 02-Dec-23
Jethro 02-Dec-23
fuzzy 02-Dec-23
Corax_latrans 02-Dec-23
fdp 02-Dec-23
From: Jack2234
01-Dec-23
Hi guys, I found a golf course near me that owns 150 acres of forest next to the course. I went and talked to some groundskeepers today and figured out that deer eat the flowers in the landscaping and pigs tear up the green every now and then. They also have no one hunting the property. I am going to talk to the manager tomorrow and see if I can get the spot. I read some of the threads on here about getting permission for properties, but that seemed to be geared more towards individual landowners. Anyone have any tips on how to land this type of spot ?

From: fuzzy
01-Dec-23
Stress that you'll be bowhunting only, that you'll be careful about buildings and infrastructure, and that you'll remove carcasses and offal.

From: Nick Muche
01-Dec-23
For sure remove the offal.

From: Zbone
01-Dec-23

Zbone's embedded Photo
Zbone's embedded Photo
Check this guy out on the cart path... I would say the course is his sanctuary....8^) Photo was taken September 2022... If still alive, wonder what he looks like now?

From: WhattheFOC
01-Dec-23
Tell them that if you have a chance at two deer, you’ll only make a hole in one.

From: Timex?
01-Dec-23
"""Choose your word's wisely"""

You want to come across as being the animal control / conservationist minded type, more so than the hunter / killer type. Leave bucks completely out of the conversation unless the topic comes up,,,,your emphasis needs to be on a few "deer" with bow for food. Ya don't know unless ya try. Good luck.

From: DanaC
01-Dec-23
Start by asking,"Who do I need to ask to get permission?"

This allows him to 'flex' a bit. Then make your case. Also, if his boss hunts there, it allows him to say 'no' without feeling pressured.

Good luck.

From: midwest
01-Dec-23
Have Lee Ellis of Seek1 ask for you.

01-Dec-23
i have had permission from two different gc owners.

a couple things to keep in mind. many courses have homeowners that live on them. some will be ok with hunters and others will definitely not be ok with hunters. make sure you determine where you are to access the land (unseen from any homeowners) and strictly adhere to it...whether you think it is a prime access point or not. trust me on this one...if soccer mom homeowners see you in hunting clothes carrying a weapon of any kind...you will be reported...period. if complaints become a hassle for the gc owner...no matter how much you are helping keep the critters under control...youre done. no matter how convenient it might seem...avoid being seen on the golf course proper...it will cost you your access...period.

one good thing...deer that live on and around golf courses are used to human interaction every day. not that it makes them stupid...but it does make them more tolerant of human scent.

lastly...homeowners love to feed and watch wildlife. find out which ones are doing it and use it to your advantage.

01-Dec-23
Very important to tell him how experienced and competent an archer you are. Life membership in the Pope & Young Club and or Texas Bow Hunters will help. If they grant permission the guy will want to know deer will not be appearing at the pond on the fourth hole with an arrow in the side. Tell him about the local venison donation program you’ll be supporting. Good luck.

From: fuzzy
01-Dec-23
Take all the residential landowners a gift. Hostas are nice ;)

01-Dec-23
It is amazing what is available to us if we ask correctly and off season. I contacted an organization last spring. They have a large parcel (800 acres or more). They came back asking for some info. Four of us were granted permission to hunt . We were allow to park in the parking lot . The only restriction I had is I had to tell them in advance what days I planned to hunt.

From: Shug
01-Dec-23
Also… some state bowhunting organizations include liability insurance with their membership.

Find out if yours does and mention you have that ( if you’re a member)

From: Will
01-Dec-23
I'd bet noting you will only hunt from elevated positions, so arrows will never go far beyond any intended target, also would help them feel better about you being out there.

From: Timex?
01-Dec-23
Finally I can agree with rtcg...on something,,,, I have lost permission on a few places over the years because of nosey neighbors,,,,or even in two different instances i had permission from the landowner, the farmer leasing the land found out i was hunting & had me kicked off, i dont even let farmers see my vehicle or myself. these days for the most part I'm as incognito as possible.......Basically behaving as if I'm sneaking onto a property I have permission to be on. It's the world we live in these days. The less others know the better.

From: Shug
01-Dec-23
Also… some state bowhunting organizations include liability insurance with their membership.

Find out if yours does and mention you have that ( if you’re a member)

From: KY EyeBow
01-Dec-23
Also remember that the deer you shoot will likely run somewhere you don't want them to when they die,,,, and plan for it! This is how I met one of my next door neighbors this Fall and I was fortunate enough that he was such a gracious guy!

From: Zbone
01-Dec-23
Anybody know if the NRA has liability insurance with their membership?

From: Insheart
01-Dec-23
Bring a kid if you can. First impressions are very important. Dress in clean yet casual clothes. Have your vehicle clean - you don't want to drive up in a truck covered in mud. I went so far as to print out the statute that relives the owners of all responsibility / liability, I had it handy in case they voiced any concerns.

If / when you do get permission to hunt. Ask where you should park so you will be the "least" noticeable upon entrance / exit. "Are there certain days / times that they do NOT want you to hunt?". "Are there certain areas where they do not want you to hunt?" "Where are the main problem areas"?

01-Dec-23
Great ideas. As stated by Timex directly and, everyone else indirectly, this is your chance to present yourself as a solution. And, not a burden.

You are there to hunt!!!! Heck yeah. We all love it!!! But, you must present that desire in a way that you’ll be received as the guy there to take care of a problem. Discreetly and professionally.

This is where memberships in organizations focused on hunting is going to help you. Be sure to included that in your discussion. It’ll be looked at as accreditations.

Be realistic. If they want deer killed, kill them. If you can’t kill enough, include someone or others you trust to help you kill them. They don’t need to go with you. But, the golf course needs to know you have the capability to kill enough to curtail their problem.

You’ll likely have to carry insurance and you’ll likely have to additionally insure them. Which is no problem. The costs aren’t high.

Be courteous. Be polite. But, be confident. While you are asking for something, the more it appears that you are the answer to their problem, the better your chances become. Good luck.

From: Grey Ghost
01-Dec-23
I asked for permission at our local golf course and was denied. The manager was worried about a wounded deer running off and dying on one of the expensive residences surrounding the golf course. Then there was also the issue of actually gutting, dragging, and loading a dead deer without being seen by golfers who might be offended. Finally, the deer on this golf course are virtually pets. They have zero fear of humans and will let you walk up to almost petting distance without being alarmed. Hunting them wouldn't be much of a sport or fair chase. Ultimately, we decided it wasn't a good idea.

Matt

From: Quinn @work
01-Dec-23
^^ I guess it's easier to decide it wasn't a good idea after they told you no? What if they told you yes would you have still decided it wasn't a good idea?

From: Grey Ghost
01-Dec-23
Quinn, to be honest, I suspected what the answer would be before I asked. The golf course manager is a hunter, and I think he wanted to say yes, but he would have had to clear it with the owners of the golf course. Apparently they aren't big on hunting. After discussing it, we both agreed it wasn't worth pursuing any further.

Matt

01-Dec-23
“ Ultimately, we decided it wasn't a good idea.”

I can’t disagree….

The thing is, golf courses use a lot of chemistry to keep everything Just So… so (me bein’ me), I would have some questions around what they’re using out there.

I’ve hunted a property where the owner asked me to remove the animals intact; that makes them heavier to drag out, but not much. Beats the snot out of having no place to hunt. And a sled helps a lot. I could usually have them home and gutted within a couple hours, which is quick enough.

I’m glad that I’ve never had to sneak in and out of a property… of course, a compound guy could snag a used golf bag at the thrift store and convert it to a Stealth bow case…. Keep a pair of pants in the side pocket and wear a Hawaiian shirt — all the camo you need, and people will expect to see you wandering into the woods looking for your lost ball…

From: Aspen Ghost
01-Dec-23
With a 150 acres of forest I'd probably bring a map with a proposed hunting area identified that is well away from any residences and the course itself. Propose that you will only hunt that area to prevent any disturbance to the neighbors or golfers. Also identify where you would like to park and walk in which should also be a secluded spot. Let them know that you will make every effort to be unnoticed by any players and neighbors.

If you get permission:

When you go in and out don't dress like a hunter, dress like you are going in to do a little tree work or other innocuous activity. Even carry an empty chainsaw case if it helps. Have your bow and gear disguised. Remove deer without field dressing using a cart or sled as if it was firewood. Cover it with a tarp. You do not want anyone to see your bow, camo or a dead deer at any time.

The reason for all the secrecy is that all it takes is one complaint from a neighbor or player and you will lose access no matter how bad the deer are hammering their grounds. If nobody figures out you are hunting out there, nobody will complain.

01-Dec-23
Focus on how you will be helping them.

Even offer to pay a lease, get a contract (written permission), make it professional, play by their rules.

From: fdp
01-Dec-23
The first thing you have to do is determine if the deer and hog problem are bad enough that they have any interest in letting you hunt, it may or may not be. We have a similar situation here and the management of the golf course doesn't feel that the problem is a big enough inconvenience to allow hunting. After that, you can decide how to handle everything else.

From: Paul@thefort
01-Dec-23
Like fdp above, Not sure what the deer limit is in Texas , in this situation, but I doubt that killing one or two deer per season will make any difference in the number of deer in the area and their effect on the local vegetation. I would also expect the does out number the bucks so do not think of this as a buck hunt.

From: Jack2234
01-Dec-23
The pigs are much more of an issue, so I would probably be shooting mostly pigs.

From: Timex?
02-Dec-23
Somewhat unrelated & I'm truly blessed to actually have more places to hunt then I can actually hunt.

I've always thought placing an add in the local paper, offering to do deer herd control, would be a fantastic way to get new places to hunt.

It must be worded correctly, and read as if your offering a free service to help with a problem & exchange for the food you will receive.....rather than you are just looking for a place to hunt.

Trust me there are plenty of folks out there that don't care for hunting & especially guns,,,,,,but understand the need for deer herd control.

Word the add intelligently directed towards those folks & I bet ya get some ph calls.

From: fuzzy
02-Dec-23
I'm currently working for a golf course as a subcontractor and can't even get permission to hunt.

02-Dec-23
around these parts...most golf courses have retired guys cutting roughs and fairways in exchange for golf privileges. i have no doubt you could barter the same way for hunting privileges. golf courses are businesses...speak their language.

i suspect a lot would also depend on where you live...around here most golf courses are closed by mid october so interaction with golfers is a non issue.

From: Cazador
02-Dec-23
Let’s face it, some guys would have a hard time getting candy on halloween night. They just suck at conversation in general.

The “culling” of problematic deer and pigs wouldn’t be the angle I’d take. Good luck.

02-Dec-23
"Let’s face it, some guys would have a hard time getting candy on halloween night. They just suck at conversation in general."

good point. its been my experience that people tend to help people they trust and people they like. be honest and be likable. if deer and pigs were actually a "problem" to the gc...there would already be people killing them.

From: Timex?
02-Dec-23

Timex?'s embedded Photo
As I sit, been here since 7am. It's now 10:54 & haven't even seen a squirrel.
Timex?'s embedded Photo
As I sit, been here since 7am. It's now 10:54 & haven't even seen a squirrel.
Starting to find this thread humorous...........

I've lived on the va coast for 23 years. I honestly have more properties to hunt than most folks I know that were born here.

I wear raggly clothes, what I consider to be just getting comfortable most folks have already thrown out, heck a few stains, rips, tears, burns, just adds character imo,

A straight razor hasn't touched my face in at least 10 years. An electric hair cutter is as clean shaved as I get. My truck hasn't been washed in 6 months, but most definitely has grease & oil where it's supposed to be.

I have been accused of having no filter whatsoever & I agree. I'm 100% a what ya see is what ya get no bullshit kinda guy.

All this talk of putting on a good front to try to get permission, instead of just being who ya are. Sorry folks,,,never has been my style & never will be. Like me how I am or don't like me at all,,, your choice,,,,I honestly don't care.

From: Cazador
02-Dec-23

Cazador's embedded Photo
“Excuse me……. Sir Sir….. I’d like to talk to you about that back 40”
Cazador's embedded Photo
“Excuse me……. Sir Sir….. I’d like to talk to you about that back 40”
Ace up the sleeve for Timex……

From: Timex?
02-Dec-23
Casador......that's funny,,,,can't deny the resemblance.

Seriously though.......make no mistake about it ......your there asking for permission to kill critters on their property.......I honestly don't think being dressed like a yuppie college professor & driving a shining pickup truck is nearly as important as is just choosing the correct language.

If one comes across as some Billy Bob just looking to stick a couple of them big bucks, it's over before it started.

Show up there as "yourself " and ask if you can help reduce the deer numbers in exchange for some food for your family.

Over the years my mother in law & myself butted heads on a regular basis. She was one tough old bird, (much respect, r.i.p) she didn't like that I hunted & fished so much.... But she always respected the fact that "as she put it"....." I wasn't one of those counterfeit mfers"

Be yourself,,, but be tactful with your words.

02-Dec-23
If its pigs go in at night with a suppressed thermal. No one will ever know

From: Jethro
02-Dec-23
As I’m reading Timex’s post, I’m thinking who could say no to Santa. Then I scroll to Caz’s post. That’s hilarious

From: fuzzy
02-Dec-23
Owners of the one where I'm working are vegetarian antis.

02-Dec-23
“Owners of the one where I'm working are vegetarian antis.”

In which case you could actually BE Mohandas Ghandi and you’d strike out! LOL… But that’s why we have the issues that we have here. People by and large know so little about Hunting that they are seriously concerned that their pets and children could be “mistaken” for a deer….

But I’m with Timex on being who you are, whoever you are. If you’re not trustworthy as to what kind of a person you are, why the hell would they trust you to run around their property with weapons??? All they’re probably looking for is someone who knows what they’re doing and can be trusted to know how to avoid causing An Incident….

From: fdp
02-Dec-23
At this point I don't think he knows if they even have any interest in having any one hunt anything.

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