You want to come across as being the animal control / conservationist minded type, more so than the hunter / killer type. Leave bucks completely out of the conversation unless the topic comes up,,,,your emphasis needs to be on a few "deer" with bow for food. Ya don't know unless ya try. Good luck.
This allows him to 'flex' a bit. Then make your case. Also, if his boss hunts there, it allows him to say 'no' without feeling pressured.
a couple things to keep in mind. many courses have homeowners that live on them. some will be ok with hunters and others will definitely not be ok with hunters. make sure you determine where you are to access the land (unseen from any homeowners) and strictly adhere to it...whether you think it is a prime access point or not. trust me on this one...if soccer mom homeowners see you in hunting clothes carrying a weapon of any kind...you will be reported...period. if complaints become a hassle for the gc owner...no matter how much you are helping keep the critters under control...youre done. no matter how convenient it might seem...avoid being seen on the golf course proper...it will cost you your access...period.
one good thing...deer that live on and around golf courses are used to human interaction every day. not that it makes them stupid...but it does make them more tolerant of human scent.
lastly...homeowners love to feed and watch wildlife. find out which ones are doing it and use it to your advantage.
Find out if yours does and mention you have that ( if you’re a member)
Find out if yours does and mention you have that ( if you’re a member)
If / when you do get permission to hunt. Ask where you should park so you will be the "least" noticeable upon entrance / exit. "Are there certain days / times that they do NOT want you to hunt?". "Are there certain areas where they do not want you to hunt?" "Where are the main problem areas"?
You are there to hunt!!!! Heck yeah. We all love it!!! But, you must present that desire in a way that you’ll be received as the guy there to take care of a problem. Discreetly and professionally.
This is where memberships in organizations focused on hunting is going to help you. Be sure to included that in your discussion. It’ll be looked at as accreditations.
Be realistic. If they want deer killed, kill them. If you can’t kill enough, include someone or others you trust to help you kill them. They don’t need to go with you. But, the golf course needs to know you have the capability to kill enough to curtail their problem.
You’ll likely have to carry insurance and you’ll likely have to additionally insure them. Which is no problem. The costs aren’t high.
Be courteous. Be polite. But, be confident. While you are asking for something, the more it appears that you are the answer to their problem, the better your chances become. Good luck.
I can’t disagree….
The thing is, golf courses use a lot of chemistry to keep everything Just So… so (me bein’ me), I would have some questions around what they’re using out there.
I’ve hunted a property where the owner asked me to remove the animals intact; that makes them heavier to drag out, but not much. Beats the snot out of having no place to hunt. And a sled helps a lot. I could usually have them home and gutted within a couple hours, which is quick enough.
I’m glad that I’ve never had to sneak in and out of a property… of course, a compound guy could snag a used golf bag at the thrift store and convert it to a Stealth bow case…. Keep a pair of pants in the side pocket and wear a Hawaiian shirt — all the camo you need, and people will expect to see you wandering into the woods looking for your lost ball…
If you get permission:
When you go in and out don't dress like a hunter, dress like you are going in to do a little tree work or other innocuous activity. Even carry an empty chainsaw case if it helps. Have your bow and gear disguised. Remove deer without field dressing using a cart or sled as if it was firewood. Cover it with a tarp. You do not want anyone to see your bow, camo or a dead deer at any time.
The reason for all the secrecy is that all it takes is one complaint from a neighbor or player and you will lose access no matter how bad the deer are hammering their grounds. If nobody figures out you are hunting out there, nobody will complain.
Even offer to pay a lease, get a contract (written permission), make it professional, play by their rules.
I've always thought placing an add in the local paper, offering to do deer herd control, would be a fantastic way to get new places to hunt.
It must be worded correctly, and read as if your offering a free service to help with a problem & exchange for the food you will receive.....rather than you are just looking for a place to hunt.
Trust me there are plenty of folks out there that don't care for hunting & especially guns,,,,,,but understand the need for deer herd control.
Word the add intelligently directed towards those folks & I bet ya get some ph calls.
i suspect a lot would also depend on where you live...around here most golf courses are closed by mid october so interaction with golfers is a non issue.
The “culling” of problematic deer and pigs wouldn’t be the angle I’d take. Good luck.
good point. its been my experience that people tend to help people they trust and people they like. be honest and be likable. if deer and pigs were actually a "problem" to the gc...there would already be people killing them.
I've lived on the va coast for 23 years. I honestly have more properties to hunt than most folks I know that were born here.
I wear raggly clothes, what I consider to be just getting comfortable most folks have already thrown out, heck a few stains, rips, tears, burns, just adds character imo,
A straight razor hasn't touched my face in at least 10 years. An electric hair cutter is as clean shaved as I get. My truck hasn't been washed in 6 months, but most definitely has grease & oil where it's supposed to be.
I have been accused of having no filter whatsoever & I agree. I'm 100% a what ya see is what ya get no bullshit kinda guy.
All this talk of putting on a good front to try to get permission, instead of just being who ya are. Sorry folks,,,never has been my style & never will be. Like me how I am or don't like me at all,,, your choice,,,,I honestly don't care.
Seriously though.......make no mistake about it ......your there asking for permission to kill critters on their property.......I honestly don't think being dressed like a yuppie college professor & driving a shining pickup truck is nearly as important as is just choosing the correct language.
If one comes across as some Billy Bob just looking to stick a couple of them big bucks, it's over before it started.
Show up there as "yourself " and ask if you can help reduce the deer numbers in exchange for some food for your family.
Over the years my mother in law & myself butted heads on a regular basis. She was one tough old bird, (much respect, r.i.p) she didn't like that I hunted & fished so much.... But she always respected the fact that "as she put it"....." I wasn't one of those counterfeit mfers"
Be yourself,,, but be tactful with your words.
In which case you could actually BE Mohandas Ghandi and you’d strike out! LOL… But that’s why we have the issues that we have here. People by and large know so little about Hunting that they are seriously concerned that their pets and children could be “mistaken” for a deer….
But I’m with Timex on being who you are, whoever you are. If you’re not trustworthy as to what kind of a person you are, why the hell would they trust you to run around their property with weapons??? All they’re probably looking for is someone who knows what they’re doing and can be trusted to know how to avoid causing An Incident….