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Contributors to this thread:
t-roy 10-Dec-23
t-roy 10-Dec-23
t-roy 10-Dec-23
t-roy 10-Dec-23
t-roy 10-Dec-23
MA-PAdeerslayer 10-Dec-23
Willieboat 10-Dec-23
t-roy 10-Dec-23
KSflatlander 10-Dec-23
t-roy 10-Dec-23
pav 10-Dec-23
Rgiesey 10-Dec-23
t-roy 10-Dec-23
TGbow 10-Dec-23
Shaft 10-Dec-23
MA-PAdeerslayer 10-Dec-23
t-roy 10-Dec-23
Rgiesey 10-Dec-23
Zbone 10-Dec-23
Shug 10-Dec-23
KSflatlander 10-Dec-23
buckeye 10-Dec-23
skull 10-Dec-23
Supernaut 10-Dec-23
midwest 10-Dec-23
Grey Ghost 10-Dec-23
Stoneman 10-Dec-23
maxracx 10-Dec-23
Bou’bound 10-Dec-23
Mint 10-Dec-23
Scoot 10-Dec-23
Dale06 10-Dec-23
ND String Puller 10-Dec-23
drycreek 10-Dec-23
sitO 10-Dec-23
Bake 10-Dec-23
Ron Niziolek 10-Dec-23
Basil 10-Dec-23
nchunter 10-Dec-23
JohnMC 10-Dec-23
pav 11-Dec-23
Charlie Rehor 11-Dec-23
tobywon 11-Dec-23
Beav 11-Dec-23
Treeline 11-Dec-23
njbuck 11-Dec-23
SteveB 11-Dec-23
12yards 11-Dec-23
Medicinemann 11-Dec-23
Julius Koenig 11-Dec-23
Painless 11-Dec-23
Will 11-Dec-23
KHNC 11-Dec-23
axle2axle 11-Dec-23
axle2axle 11-Dec-23
wytex 11-Dec-23
Catscratch 11-Dec-23
t-roy 11-Dec-23
Mark Watkins 11-Dec-23
ki-ke 11-Dec-23
deerhunter72 11-Dec-23
Native Okie 11-Dec-23
From: t-roy
10-Dec-23

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The buck I had just shot
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The buck I had just shot
On November 12th of this year, I was sitting in a treestand, and had just shot a buck a few moments before when my phone vibrated in my pocket. It was my wife calling me, frantic about what she had just stumbled upon a crazy situation down in the creek below our house. The reception was crappy, but she conveyed to me enough that I needed to get back to the house ASAP!

From: t-roy
10-Dec-23

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She has a tendency to be a bit overdramatic, but I figured I’d better err on the side of safety, so I bailed out of the stand and hustled back to the house as quickly as I could. When I got there, she explained to me what she had encountered this morning, while walking the dog down our hill to the mailbox, near the creek in the bottom.

As she got to the creek, she heard quite the commotion and discovered these bucks locked up down in the creek bed. One of them was already dead, but the other buck was trying frantically to free himself.

From: t-roy
10-Dec-23

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I had a buddy hunting with me, so I called him and told him what was going on. It was around 11am, so he jumped out of his stand and headed our way. While he was on his way, I went up to the shop and got several things that I thought we might need. I grabbed an old lifeline rope, a sawzall (with a fully charged battery), some heavy gloves, an old blanket, as well as a couple things tha might come in handy, just in case. Went back down to the creek and assessed what might be the best way to go about loosing the live buck without getting stomped into a greasy spot!

From: t-roy
10-Dec-23

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From: t-roy
10-Dec-23

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Ole!
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Ole!
Once Chris got there, I told him I thought the best way to go about things would be to try and drag them out of the creek onto a dry spot, throw the blanket over the live buck’s head, one of us pin him down, and the other guy cut through a main beam of the live buck to hopefully free him from the dead buck. I’m pretty sure both of these bucks were 2 yr olds, plus the live buck was exhausted, but it was all we could do to get them dragged out to where we could do what we needed to. Unbelievable how strong that buck was! We grabbed the hind legs of the dead buck and dragged them both out of the creek.

10-Dec-23
Still in awe of this story….insane

From: Willieboat
10-Dec-23
Heck of a rodeo!

From: t-roy
10-Dec-23

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Right side
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Right side
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Left side
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Left side
After finally getting them out of the creek and getting the blanket thrown over the buck (somewhat) I did my best to pin him down and get enough of the rack exposed to cut, Chris quickly sawed through the live buck’s right main beam just past his brow tine. I pulled the blanket away and the buck tried to scramble to get away, but they were STILL locked up! We repeated the process again, without the blanket this time, cutting on the left side. About halfway through the left beam, the buck lurched and finally broke free, but only made it to the creek a few feet away and just lay there, exhausted.

From: KSflatlander
10-Dec-23
Wow. That's one hell of a thing you did. Good on you.

From: t-roy
10-Dec-23

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The buck lay in the creek, panting like a dog, totally worn out. I thought that leaving him in the creek for awhile would be a good idea, beings he was probably plenty hot and it was in the 60s at the time, so we let him be for a bit. After 20-30 minutes I put a little bit of pressure on him to encourage him to run off. Unfortunately, he seemed to have done something to his back end during the struggle to free him, and was unable to get up in his back end. Before we started to try and free him, he had no issues with his back legs, and was jumping all over the place trying to get free. We ended up taking the rope and got on either side of him, throwing the rope behind his rack, and dragged him up onto dry land, so he wouldn’t end up hypothermic.

From: pav
10-Dec-23
Good on you Troy and Chris! I've read similar threads over the years, but never experienced such an encounter. Hopefully the buck survives!!!

From: Rgiesey
10-Dec-23
My buddy who’s an Iowa game warden deals with locked bucks a lot shoots horns off with a shotgun. Hope he’s ok.

From: t-roy
10-Dec-23
Someone started a thread last month, about “hearing a buck growl” This guy bellered three or four times during the encounter.

We checked on him several times during the day, and tried to nudge him to get him going, but he was still unable to gain his feet. I contacted our game warden and told him of our situation, explaining to him I was pretty certain this buck was most likely not going to survive. He said to give him until the next morning, and if he was still unable to get up, to go ahead and shoot him and he would issue me a couple of salvage tags.

We checked on the buck again around 7pm and no change. About 10:30 that night, the coyotes opened up not far from the house. I was concerned about them finding that buck and eating on him while he was still alive, so I quickly went down and checked on him one last time. Fortunately, the yotes hadn’t found him, however he was still in dire straits, so I decided to put him out of his misery, with a .22mag shot to the back of his head :-( I let the warden know what I had done, and he was fine with it.

Whoever thinks hunters are heartless, are just plain wrong. While I get very excited with a well placed arrow, this encounter was the exact opposite. I felt terrible for what these bucks endured and was almost sick to my stomach while putting him out of his misery. After the fact, my wife was pretty certain she heard these two bucks fighting the day before, further down the creek, but thought at the time it was just deer busting through the brush, running off. Now, she wishes she would have investigated it more. Had we found them a day earlier, there’s probably a good chance that possibly both bucks could have survived. Not sure if WE would have, though! It was quite the rodeo with just one live buck!

From: TGbow
10-Dec-23
Sounds like you did what needed to be done. Sometimes you have to do unpleasant things that happens to be the best thing to do

From: Shaft
10-Dec-23
Nature can be brutal. You did the right thing and handled the situation well.

10-Dec-23
That stinks buddy….still couldn’t believe it when you told me before. could studs gone from the area to soon… sucks having to kill em cuz of that…

From: t-roy
10-Dec-23

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Screenshot of the buck I had to put down.

From: Rgiesey
10-Dec-23
Damn!

From: Zbone
10-Dec-23
Nice bucks, shame it happened, but you did good putting him down... Once read in Texas their game department radioed collared locked bucks, and like 70% die after releasing so it's common most die from trauma and/or exhaustion after they're locked for hours...

I'd get the skulls cleaned and somehow glue the horn back on... Would make a really cool display...

From: Shug
10-Dec-23
Crazy stuff

From: KSflatlander
10-Dec-23
Man that's tuff and it had to be hard to do. But you did what had to be done.

From: buckeye
10-Dec-23
Hate that you had to do that, and good on you for trying, but was any of the meat worth taking after all that?

From: skull
10-Dec-23
You did the best you could, can’t control mother nature

From: Supernaut
10-Dec-23
Wow, what a crazy encounter and thanks for sharing it.

Bummer about the bucks not making it but good on you all for doing everything possible to save them. I also commend you for ending the suffering when you saw he wasn't going to make it.

From: midwest
10-Dec-23
With Troy's permission...volume up!

...and please ignore the 'subscribe' button. It's just my own personal crap but have to make public to share. I'm no Fred Zeppelin. ;-)

From: Grey Ghost
10-Dec-23
Troy, good for you for doing your best to save that buck. And I know the emotions you felt.

A few days ago I was making my normal morning scouting rounds. When I drove by a neighbors place, I saw a doe had broken thru the ice on his pond. She was mid-chest deep and out of energy. The neighbor wasn’t home, and I didn’t have any help to call, so I decided to let nature run its course. The next morning scavenger birds were feeding on her lifeless floating carcass. It’s been bugging me ever since. Mother Nature can be a cruel bitch.

Matt

From: Stoneman
10-Dec-23
Thanks for sharing t-roy, bummer the way it turned out.

From: maxracx
10-Dec-23
T-roy, sorry for the loss of 2 great bucks. You always do the right thing and I commend you for it. On a positive, that site might make a great ambush point for coyotes for a week or two.

From: Bou’bound
10-Dec-23
Amazing story. The most amazing thing to me honestly is that those bucks were just two years old. What a place to hunt deer good on you for doing the right thing

From: Mint
10-Dec-23
My friends girlfriend runs an wild animal rehab/recovery I guess you would call it. Saves a lot of wild animals and then lets them go free. He had the same thing happen to a big buck caught in a fence. She told him after awhile the deer release an enzyme through their bloodstream and they will never be able to recover. I don't know if it is true or not but it seems like if you don't catch them early enough they always just lay there until they die. Sad for sure.

From: Scoot
10-Dec-23
Yuck. Nature is most definitely cruel sometimes. Ya did all ya could, T.

From: Dale06
10-Dec-23
Sad ending, but thanks for your great efforts.

10-Dec-23

ND String Puller's embedded Photo
ND String Puller's embedded Photo
You did your best Troy. Amazing how strong they really are, even when worn out. Thanks for sharing this. Reminded me of a internet pic from awhile back

From: drycreek
10-Dec-23
Damn, Troy, that had to be a bad experience for you. Good on you brother for doing the right thing.

From: sitO
10-Dec-23
You done the right thing, but that's a given.

From: Bake
10-Dec-23
Hate it for you Troy. Tough situation. The natural world is not often kind. One thing the antis don’t understand for sure

From: Ron Niziolek
10-Dec-23
That’s a hell of a rodeo. Sorry it didn’t turn out better but you did everything you could. Good on you Troy!

From: Basil
10-Dec-23
Yes sometimes nature is a mother. Kudos for all your effort. For what it’s worth I’ve pulled a number of deer off fences & out of basins at work & not one survived. I guess the stress is often just too much.

From: nchunter
10-Dec-23
You did the right things as hard as it was. I jumped a spike once and tried to hold it down due too it wondering back and forth across a road like it had gone crazy. It was one wild ride but I finally got it down and feet tied by another hunter. Took it back into the woods where we found a small stick deeply embedded into it skull. I pulled it out and freed it. It walked back into the woods and I never saw it again. I bet if your deer had been fresh you would of had a real rodeo on your hands.

From: JohnMC
10-Dec-23
Wow - crazy stuff

From: pav
11-Dec-23
Dang, was hoping for a better outcome for your efforts Troy! I've never found locked up bucks before, but feel your pain. Once found a buck fawn caught in a fence, freed him up only to find he had broken bones at the hip and had to put him down. Tough day for sure.

11-Dec-23
Makes you wonder how often it happens with no humans around?

From: tobywon
11-Dec-23
Crazy, thanks for sharing. Tough one.

From: Beav
11-Dec-23
Crazy story. Good effort and wish it would have turned out differently.

From: Treeline
11-Dec-23
Was definitely hoping for a better ending for the buck that was still alive. Had to be really tough to put him down. Thanks for sharing.

From: njbuck
11-Dec-23
Shame that two nice bucks met their fate that way. Nature can be cruel. Ps- congrats on the great buck you shot!

From: SteveB
11-Dec-23
Congrats on your buck T-Roy.......he's a beauty.

I'm sorry for the sad ending on the other two, but you can never make a mistake doing the right thing.

From: 12yards
11-Dec-23
Dang that stinks! But you definitely did the right thing. Could you tell if his back end was messed up after you put him down?

From: Medicinemann
11-Dec-23
Let's hope that they passed on their genes before they died.....

11-Dec-23
Wow Troy, that’s quite the story!

From: Painless
11-Dec-23
Great well documented story. Thanks

From: Will
11-Dec-23
That's amazing! Thanks for what you did, and sharing it with us.

From: KHNC
11-Dec-23
Dang, thats too bad. Great potential on those bucks. Also, a tragedy for both of them.

From: axle2axle
11-Dec-23
Tough break Troy...great effort on your part! I believe you are absolutely correct, that anti's will never grasp we revere the animals we hunt and consume...never wanting a single animal to suffer unnecessarily. Thanks for sharing this experience with us. Kevin

From: axle2axle
11-Dec-23

From: wytex
11-Dec-23
"My friends girlfriend runs an wild animal rehab/recovery I guess you would call it. Saves a lot of wild animals and then lets them go free. He had the same thing happen to a big buck caught in a fence. She told him after awhile the deer release an enzyme through their bloodstream and they will never be able to recover. I don't know if it is true or not but it seems like if you don't catch them early enough they always just lay there until they die. Sad for sure."

I believe lactic acid build up in the blood stream is what she was talking about and yes it kills deer when they get too stressed. Sad situation but glad you tried to help.

From: Catscratch
11-Dec-23
Bummer you couldn't save one of them, but really cool part of nature to witness. You gave it a shot, which counts when you sleep at night. Thanks for sharing!

From: t-roy
11-Dec-23
Thanks for the comments, guys. To answer a couple of questions:

12yds…..I didn’t do an autopsy on him, but did poke around a little bit. It didn’t seem that there was anything wrong with his rear legs or hips, and I couldn’t see or feel anything unusual along his spine, either.

buckeye…….I didn’t try to salvage any of the meat. No telling how long the first buck had been dead, plus I would think the second buck would be full of adrenaline and lactic acid, as Mint & wytex alluded to.

Thanks for posting the video, Nick! You’re definitely no Fred Zeppelin…..well, I’ll just leave it at that;-)

From: Mark Watkins
11-Dec-23
Nature is hard to explain (and sometimes we just can’t).

T-Roy and Chris....nice work on putting yourselves at risk trying to save two critters we love som much as hunters!!!!

Mark

From: ki-ke
11-Dec-23
Fred Zepp is the man for GIANT bucks! Love his content.

Heck of a story T! I bet there was some pucker time there as you waded into that mess. Too bad you lost a couple good ones. Thanks for sharing, and congrats on the 11/12 buck! You kinda glossed over that and went right to the rodeo...

From: deerhunter72
11-Dec-23
t-roy, great job getting them separated without one of you getting hurt. As a deer hunter, I think that’s one of the toughest things to come across. Terrible way for any deer to die. I’ve got a set of locked skulls, but I didn’t find them until after nearly a year and they were just skeletons.

I’ve got a good friend who had a similar situation happen 2 years ago on Thanksgiving day. 2 locked bucks in a deep creek. He put an arrow through one and once it was dead, he used a sawzall to free the other buck. He had to drag the live buck out of the creek, but after a while it seemed to somewhat recover but didn’t walk off. He left it alone and went back that evening and it was gone. Several days later he found it dead about 60 yards away. He tagged the buck he shot and I believe got a salvage tag for the other buck.

From: Native Okie
11-Dec-23
Wild stuff, Troy!

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