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The sad truth about Southern Iowa
Whitetail Deer
Contributors to this thread:
T.O 11-Dec-23
T.O 11-Dec-23
APauls 11-Dec-23
Catscratch 11-Dec-23
T.O 11-Dec-23
Bou'bound 11-Dec-23
Groundhunter 11-Dec-23
T.O 11-Dec-23
ki-ke 11-Dec-23
Bou'bound 11-Dec-23
Buckdeer 11-Dec-23
DO 11-Dec-23
KB 11-Dec-23
fuzzy 11-Dec-23
KB 11-Dec-23
fuzzy 11-Dec-23
fuzzy 11-Dec-23
KB 11-Dec-23
sticksender 11-Dec-23
RutnStrut 11-Dec-23
JohnMC 11-Dec-23
Bowfinatic 11-Dec-23
caribou77 11-Dec-23
fuzzy 11-Dec-23
midwest 11-Dec-23
Zbone 11-Dec-23
ahunter55 11-Dec-23
Matt 11-Dec-23
MA-PAdeerslayer 11-Dec-23
Michael 11-Dec-23
Bowfreak 11-Dec-23
JohnMC 11-Dec-23
Highlife 11-Dec-23
t-roy 11-Dec-23
scentman 11-Dec-23
bigswivle 11-Dec-23
fuzzy 11-Dec-23
Glunt@work 11-Dec-23
Meat Grinder 11-Dec-23
Mule Power 11-Dec-23
Iowa booner hunter 11-Dec-23
Lewis 11-Dec-23
4nolz@work 11-Dec-23
TREESTANDWOLF 11-Dec-23
fuzzy 12-Dec-23
Shug 12-Dec-23
fuzzy 12-Dec-23
Jimmyjumpup 12-Dec-23
SteveB 12-Dec-23
scentman 12-Dec-23
Matt 12-Dec-23
fuzzy 12-Dec-23
12yards 12-Dec-23
drycreek 12-Dec-23
wildwilderness 12-Dec-23
Bow Crazy 13-Dec-23
Lee 13-Dec-23
Rut Nut 13-Dec-23
KB 13-Dec-23
Duke 13-Dec-23
Deercy 13-Dec-23
Chris Walker 14-Dec-23
fuzzy 14-Dec-23
Bake 14-Dec-23
KB 14-Dec-23
fuzzy 14-Dec-23
Glunt@work 14-Dec-23
Live2Hunt 14-Dec-23
Iowa booner hunter 14-Dec-23
KSBOW 15-Dec-23
peter.p 15-Dec-23
KB 15-Dec-23
fuzzy 17-Dec-23
fuzzy 17-Dec-23
Deercy 17-Dec-23
fuzzy 17-Dec-23
Iowa booner hunter 18-Dec-23
Highlife 18-Dec-23
Mark 18-Dec-23
Zbone 18-Dec-23
4nolz@work 18-Dec-23
LBshooter 18-Dec-23
From: T.O
11-Dec-23

T.O's embedded Photo
T.O's embedded Photo
This is the truth about the Lindsey's in Southern Oiwa

From: T.O
11-Dec-23

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From: APauls
11-Dec-23
No idea who you're talking about but I guess they must really bother you. Photo of 10 yards of a fence doesn't even mean anything. Could have a neighbour that sits the fence line and decided to fence one side off. Who knows.

From: Catscratch
11-Dec-23
I built a "fence" like that. It's by the highway and intended to help keep poaching down with an attempt at a visual barrier.

From: T.O
11-Dec-23
The fence is 1/2 mile long on a dirt road and was put up to keep deer from crossing the road and had nothing to do with poaching

From: Bou'bound
11-Dec-23
Who is Lindsay

From: Groundhunter
11-Dec-23
His show is on the Outdoor Channel.

From: T.O
11-Dec-23
Lindsay's have a show on the outdoor channel and say they ate fair chase hunters when in fact they will do shit like build a fence to keep deer on their land

From: ki-ke
11-Dec-23
Seems pretty far from high fence to me.....More like jealous neighbors or trouble starters..

Pushing cleared brush to the edge of property lines will stop whitetails from passing about as quickly as any other brier patch.

To post stuff like this anywhere is pitiful.

From: Bou'bound
11-Dec-23
They are cannibals?

From: Buckdeer
11-Dec-23
Nothing illegal about that and if it's 10,000 acres probably won't matter.sounds like the neighbors are trying to hunt deer that stay on the Lindseys ground

From: DO
11-Dec-23

DO's embedded Photo
DO's embedded Photo
The lindsys built a half mile brush fence to keep deer from crossing the road. They also stacked hay bales along the whole property line to stop deer. If they see your truck parked while you’re hunting they will drive up and down the road until after dark to keep anything from crossing the road. All while portraying they are fair chase and ethical hunters. They harass neighboring hunters by flying drones over other people’s property also.

From: KB
11-Dec-23

KB's Link
I’m not sure it is legal Buckdeer. Seems like it falls into 1b on this page. Also assuming there is minimum and maximum height requirements for fencing in Iowa?

From: fuzzy
11-Dec-23
10,000 acres high fenced with bulldozed brush! I'd hate to see that fuel bill!

From: KB
11-Dec-23
Looks like something a well timed cigarette out the window would cure! :)

From: fuzzy
11-Dec-23
Bou they were choosy cannibals. They only ate fair chase hunters.

From: fuzzy
11-Dec-23
Dillon Otis? Are you related to Tim Oris?

From: KB
11-Dec-23

KB's embedded Photo
KB's embedded Photo
Uh oh….

From: sticksender
11-Dec-23
Looks like a fairly clever idea to me. Long as it's not a full enclosure, which I highly doubt it is, then it's not "high fence" hunting. And wouldn't the barricade work both ways? Keeps bucks from coming off the adjacent farms and onto theirs? Although if the neighbors tend to wholesale-slaughter the up-and-coming 2 and 3 yr old bucks, then its clearly....advantage Lindsey.

From: RutnStrut
11-Dec-23
If I could afford it. I would high fence 2 sides of my land.

From: JohnMC
11-Dec-23
You're talking about 1/2 mile. If someone was trying to fence 10000 acres that would be roughly 16 sections or four miles of fence on all 4 sides minimum if it is square, or 16 miles of fence. So a 1/2 miles is about 3% of the minimum border that would have.

11-Dec-23
Looks strategically smart to me

From: caribou77
11-Dec-23
Hell the hay bale idea is a good idea if you can afford it. I’d do it just to keep people from stopping and glassing open areas along the road. It’s kinda like a lock on a door too, keeping honest people honest. Can’t just stop and shoot out the window quick, run over and grab it and drive off into the sunset.

My dad has a food plot on the north side of his woods, 1/4 mile off the road. Anyone that stops to look at deer or even slows down will scare the deer off. So this hay bale thing just looks like good strategy.

From: fuzzy
11-Dec-23
Honestly sounds like an effort to discourage tressspassers and road hunters

From: midwest
11-Dec-23
That barrier works both ways.

From: Zbone
11-Dec-23
"And wouldn't the barricade work both ways?"

Reminds me once during our week long statewide firearm season, watched a doe outside a high fence enclosure full of ear tagged bucks bounce along the fence trying to get into the enclosure away from the outside hunting pressure, that is how high gun pressure can be around here...

From: ahunter55
11-Dec-23
I want to high fence the neighbor lady away from my property line. She is a real busy body & Bit--h. Was a great neighborhood until they moved in 2 years ago.

From: Matt
11-Dec-23
Now that deer hunting has been completely ruined altogether, what are you guys thinking about doing next fall? I've heard quilting is fun.

11-Dec-23
Drone bothers you that much take care of the drone if it’s on your property. No way they put 16 miles of fence up as JohnMC noted.

From: Michael
11-Dec-23
So they hunt 10,000 acres and a half mile has brush piled up on it. You do realize that 10,000 acres is roughly the size of 15.625 sections (square miles)

If they are high fence hunters they have a lot of holes.

From: Bowfreak
11-Dec-23
Well this thread didn’t go as planned….

From: JohnMC
11-Dec-23
We should place bets on if the original poster or his alter ego come back.

From: Highlife
11-Dec-23
Matt I'm gonna go for doing watercolors

From: t-roy
11-Dec-23
I don’t want to own all the land……Just everything that borders mine!

From: scentman
11-Dec-23
Matt, I almost poked myself with my crochet needle after reading your post!

From: bigswivle
11-Dec-23
What do you expect from some country boys from Georgia? lol. I do everything I can to keep deer from going onto my neighbors property that kill everything and this is in Florida. Don’t know what I’d do if I lived in Iowa

From: fuzzy
11-Dec-23
Matt I may take up shoe repair ;)

From: Glunt@work
11-Dec-23
Southern Iowa is around 28,000 square miles. 1/2 mile of piled up brush and hay bales probably doesn't make it sad

From: Meat Grinder
11-Dec-23
Sounds like much ado about nothing.

From: Mule Power
11-Dec-23
Cracks me up when complainers think Bowsiters will all jump on their bandwagon. This place is notorious for reality checks. Haha!

11-Dec-23
Sounds like a freeloading fence sitter complaining

From: Lewis
11-Dec-23
A great quote much to about nothing Lewis

From: 4nolz@work
11-Dec-23
I've always wondered how Lindseys always get tags

11-Dec-23
I’m with the “ do not harass the deer from the road” group.

No different than an Egyptian grass block IMO.

Looks to be a natural barrier on Google Earth.

Oh well, carry on. :)

From: fuzzy
12-Dec-23
I was so sad about Southern Iowa I barely slept.

12-Dec-23
"I was so sad about Southern Iowa I barely slept."

have to admit...that made me lol.

From: Shug
12-Dec-23
Take it from me first hand… Don’t drink and post

From: fuzzy
12-Dec-23
Slug if I followed that rule I'd never post anything. Rickey you're welcome.

From: Jimmyjumpup
12-Dec-23
Can't put up high fences in good ole wv. Have to hunt these scrub bucks the hard way. Lots of people that are making their living with hunting shows do that. It is not unusual

From: SteveB
12-Dec-23
If it's legal........

From: scentman
12-Dec-23
Yea Slug, what fuzzy said! ;0)

From: Matt
12-Dec-23
Fuzzy validating the notion that you can’t drink all day if you don’t start in the morning.

From: fuzzy
12-Dec-23
Matt, exactly!

From: 12yards
12-Dec-23
I was thinking southern IA was as close to whitetail heaven as there is on earth. Trying to get drawn there is hell though.

From: drycreek
12-Dec-23
10,000 acres, even if it were truly under high fence, is pretty damn close to “open range”. You could hunt for days and never see the fence, might not see any deer either. ;-)

12-Dec-23
Easy answer- Stop watching the show!

the "Buck Wars" (that's what we call the squabbles between neighbors, and between hunters over deer, access, fencing, harassment etc) make people do and think crazy things

From: Bow Crazy
13-Dec-23
If this is true, I could see how this would bother you. It sounds like one side of your property is affected by the fencing. Concentrate on making your parcel the best it can be, access it smart to keep it low impact, hide where you park your vehicles, you can even use the fence to your advantage by using it to funnel deer on your property along the border, check your local laws about hunter harassment then get law enforcement involved. Think about what you can control, what you can do to make things as good as they can be. BC

From: Lee
13-Dec-23
I’d say if they went through that trouble in one area it was due to problem neighbors whacking everything that walked off it. Now the only problem with their strategy is it makes one hell of a funnel at either end! Better make sure it ends on a neighbor that doesn’t hunt or one that discriminates! Nothing illegal about it.

Lee

From: Rut Nut
13-Dec-23
So they have access to 10,000 acres and they are worried about one little property line? Sounds kind of rediculous to me! Seems to me there would be plenty of acreage to hunt where they wouldn;t have to worry about any "neighbors"...................

From: KB
13-Dec-23
Anyone hunted that wildlife area that sits between these fellers, Drury’s, Bowmar’s, and a handful of the other TV stars?! :)

From: Duke
13-Dec-23
How dare they! On top of it, they pigged out at the trough and own so many acres!

From: Deercy
13-Dec-23
"I never post stuff like this on social media but....

14-Dec-23
The Iowa DNR seemingly has it made when it comes to collecting seasonal harvest data based off what I read on this forum. Make about 5 or 6 phone calls and account for 95% of the kill. Lol...sad.

From: fuzzy
14-Dec-23

fuzzy's embedded Photo
fuzzy's embedded Photo

From: Bake
14-Dec-23
I thought southern Iowa was bigger than a few thousand acres. Huh, guess I learn something new every day. Note to self "The entirety of Southern Iowa is less than 20,000 acres." Got it

From: KB
14-Dec-23
Trying to get this straight. Some Georgia boys buy an already setup TV hunting property in Iowa in order to get famous and make money by killing big deer. They fly drones around the neighborhood, build barricades to alter wildlife movement and seemingly act like they own the whole county.

Bowsite consensus is that’s the gold standard though and piss on the little neighbor/landowner?!

From: fuzzy
14-Dec-23
KB that's the "spin" lol

From: Glunt@work
14-Dec-23
Plenty of negatives come with commercializing hunting but having a neighbor with a huge place focused on growing big deer could be better than some alternatives.

From: Live2Hunt
14-Dec-23
The best/worst fences I saw where the ones in Texas with the one way gates in them. Deer can get in but not back out. BTW, I would take up making doilies. I like crocheting also, but I do taxidermy and sewing is more my thing.

14-Dec-23
I know a guy that hunts adjacent property and has no problem with them because he doesn’t hunt right on the fence. They don’t hunt right on the fence either.

From: KSBOW
15-Dec-23
Would have to think that this is more about people driving bye and stopping looking at deer in fields etc.. I mean I guess its excessive but we plant cedar and hedge on all our fields that are road facing one property that has 20- year hedgerow you can only see through at the gate same premise. Currently know someone that property butts up to one of so called personalities. Its honestly the best situation, they poor tons of money into food and protein year round, his property gets the benefit. Now it could get difficult at times I am sure, but just one of the realities we now all face.

From: peter.p
15-Dec-23
Send josh bowmar on that brush pile with his torch

From: KB
15-Dec-23
Lol!

From: fuzzy
17-Dec-23

fuzzy's embedded Photo
fuzzy's embedded Photo
Sorry double post. Iowa public land bow kill is what the story said.

From: fuzzy
17-Dec-23
https://www.northamericanwhitetail.com/editorial/vandenburg-breaking-news-bucks2023/487308

From: Deercy
17-Dec-23
"I never post stuff like this on social media but....

From: fuzzy
17-Dec-23
Lol

18-Dec-23
"Iowa public land bow kill is what the story said."

heck of a deer and heck of a story. good for him!

18-Dec-23
It may very well be a public land bowkill but he was hunting way back off the road where nobody else hunts. I want to see him shoot one like that at my public area which is loaded with other hunters. If I hunted where he hunted i coulda done that also

From: Highlife
18-Dec-23
Yeah right if you say so.....

From: Mark
18-Dec-23
They did that to screen a field from the road that has had multiple deer poached over the years

From: Zbone
18-Dec-23
I have a HARD time believing that buck came from public land... I know it isn't Ohio, but with the pressure here on our public lands I'd wager there was never a buck of that caliber survive to that maturity or the odds would be like a 100 million to one...

From: 4nolz@work
18-Dec-23
I'd like the DNR to confirm residency with these "residents" in say February or July.....it's a bullsheet loophole used by rich TV show hunters.

From: LBshooter
18-Dec-23
Well if no deer can get out do to the high fence I'd recommend that you drop in a couple wolves and the deer problem will be taken care of.

Now on a serious note, if no deer can exit or enter the property then don't they have to worry about inbreeding? The who,e point of deer being pushed out of their birth area is to avoid inbreeding, funny how Mother Nature figures this stuff out. Just like southern Illinois, a couple years of EHD and over hunting will ruin the area. Once again, if your hunting,for antlers then I guess this whole issue is a bother but if your hunting for the enjoyment of the outdoors and meat it shouldn't bother you.

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