Morgan moves from GT
Contributors to this thread:Equipment
From: Murph
03-Jan-24
Just seen that Levi Morgan left Gold Tip to shoot these new Altra arrows, sounds like Darrin Christenberry is maybe behind them so not a huge surprise, just seems odd since Levi has shot GT since the beginning, follow the money I guess don’t know much about these new arrows but I’m sure their the straightest hardest hitting best penetrating ones yet HaHa..
From: Highlife
03-Jan-24
From: Dale06
03-Jan-24
$$$$$$$$$, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
From: 12yards
03-Jan-24
I like Levi but it's hilarious that one day you say GT is the best arrow, then, because someone offers you more money, a different arrow is the best. I guess that is capitalism at its finest.
From: Glunt@work
03-Jan-24
Tens of millions of sales and marketing people say a certain product is the best in exchange for money every day.
From: iceman
03-Jan-24
From: iceman
03-Jan-24
From: greg simon
03-Jan-24
Maybe he got a chance to get in on the ground floor of an up and comer. Less money on the front end but with ownership or profit sharing deals, more in the future. Best of luck to him!
From: Bou'bound
03-Jan-24
Good out front post. Classy. He could shoot cedar arrows and beat half the guys on the tour. Give him dime store carbons and he would beat the other half.
From: Dale06
03-Jan-24
Doesn’t make sense that he would leave a company that he’s been hugely successful with, over a long time, to another company at less money. What Greg (above) says might be the issue. Anyway, best to him.
From: Groundhunter
03-Jan-24
I like that guy.
From: HDE
03-Jan-24
...and these are the days of our lives...
From: t-roy
03-Jan-24
Ok…..
From: Kanati
03-Jan-24
No different then any pro athlete. I love this team but the other team is giving me more so i love this team more.
From: KHNC
03-Jan-24
"No different then any pro athlete. I love this team but the other team is giving me more so i love this team more."
What about his post said the new team is giving him more? He clearly said he was taking "way less money". Or did you even read it?
From: Bou'bound
03-Jan-24
It’s clearly a long-term play he’s not claiming the arrows any better. He didn’t trash the old company he could shoot any arrow and do just fine.
He wants to be part of something that’s growing and getting in early can lead to windfalls
He’s a young guy with a growing family and probably isn’t gonna spend the rest of his life making money tournament to tournament and doing 13 30 minute TV shows a year
Ground floor is good time to get in and improve career direction over time.
From: Mule Power
03-Jan-24
That crap is all meaningless to me. I don’t care if Joe Biden shoots gold tips and Donald Trump shoots slick tricks. Whatever.
From: Jaquomo
03-Jan-24
God spoke to me and told me to keep shooting all the Gold Tips I already have
From: Ironbow
03-Jan-24
It’s called business. He does this for a living, not a hobby. Most everyone on this site does it for a hobby and have our personal preferences.
My bet he is laying the groundwork for his future. He can’t do what he is doing forever.
And who knows how many arrows he sold for Gold Tip!
From: Ambush
03-Jan-24
Don't lose any sleep guys, because I will ALWAYS stick with Heinz Ketchup and Campbells soup.
From: WhattheFOC
03-Jan-24
I left Heinz ketchup and went to French’s. Not saying you have to change too, but I AM the Levi Morgan of condiments. God Bless.
From: LUNG$HOT
03-Jan-24
I just ran all of my Easton axis arrows through my miter saw and ordered all new Altra arrows and components…… Not.
From: pav
03-Jan-24
Who really cares? I've been shooting Goldtips for decades...and honestly never knew Levi Morgan was on the Goldtip payroll...until today.
From: iceman
03-Jan-24
From: Murph
03-Jan-24
I think GT nailed that message Iceman, hard to argue with those stats
From: DanaC
03-Jan-24
Just curious, how many people will change arrow brands because of this?
From: KHNC
03-Jan-24
^^Plenty
From: pirogue
03-Jan-24
Like said above, just like others chasing money. Difference in Morgan and Ohtani, is Ohtani changes for more money and hopes to get on a winning team. For Morgan, it’s just about money.
From: Shiloh
03-Jan-24
What Greg said. I wouldn't be surprised if he got stock in the company, and if so, good for him!!
From: Bowfreak
03-Jan-24
I am not sure how many change but the first thing I did when I heard of this was Google "Altra". I have no intentions of changing but they at least got me to look. Many will look and buy simply because Levi shoots them. There are reasons why companies pay people large amounts of money to be ambassadors for their brand and it ain't because they are nice people.
From: Bou'bound
03-Jan-24
That’s exactly right bowfreak. This will generate a lot more revenue for the company than expense and more than other moves they could have made. Or they would have done nothing or something different.
From: Charlie Rehor
03-Jan-24
I think Greg Simon got it right.
It’s a poor workman that blames his tools.
From: Highlife
03-Jan-24
From: samman
03-Jan-24
samman's Link
I rely more on endorsements by friends who use a product. A mentor of mine shot Goldtips and shot well with them and liked them a lot, so I bought some. They shoot and perform well for me, so that is all I need. Just because a celebrity uses something doesn't sway me. If they were endorsing something for free, possibly, but money talks & you have to say what they are promoting with a grain of salt. Are they using it becuase it is the best, or just because they are getting paid for it. Go to the 1 minute mark in the video.
From: Bou'bound
03-Jan-24
They use what they use because they are getting paid for it which is brilliant since the results are not dependent on the equipment so long as They are using good stuff.
Easton gold tip victory they Rr all the same in the hands of a pro. Same with all equipment. Think optics does Swarovski vs Zeiss vs leica matter. No. But as long as they are not using tasco or bushnell it won’t matter.
From: Ricky The Cabel Guy
03-Jan-24
always kind of surprises me how many people out there seem shocked when people who do something for a living...make decisions based on money.
From: HDE
03-Jan-24
How do you really feel Ricky?
From: Ricky The Cabel Guy
03-Jan-24
"How do you really feel Ricky?"
its usually pretty obvious by what i post. :)
From: arlone
03-Jan-24
The little I know about Levi, seems like someone above said it best, that he could outshoot a lot of the competition shooting "woodies" ! My arrows only shoot as good as my abilities on any given day.
From: Dale06
03-Jan-24
I also googled that arrow manufacturer as I’d not heard of them. I’ve shot easton and Beeman for 46 years. If I thought changing arrow manufacturers would improve my accuracy, I’d change. But it won’t.
From: Glunt@work
03-Jan-24
The decision may have been mutual.
From: midwest
03-Jan-24
Look at the talk it's already generated here, never mind the hits on this thread by people who don't post.
From: Bowfreak
03-Jan-24
Exactly Nick.
From: SteveBNY
03-Jan-24
Who is Levi Morgan?
From: HDE
03-Jan-24
"its usually pretty obvious by what i post. :)"
But 4 times in a row? The others are deleted now...
From: Chris Walker
03-Jan-24
Man, the past couple of months have really called out the jealous bunch. I guess if I have an opportunity to move up in the company I work for and earn more or better my career I shouldn't do it. Got it!
From: Jaquomo
03-Jan-24
Chris, I started out as a ditch digger and worked my way up to a senior executive position in a big publicly traded Silicon Valley tech company. At every step, there were haters, some who were jealous, and others who knew I deserved what I achieved. Goes with the territory, and I learned that the haters were also usually underachieving losers.
From: Murph
03-Jan-24
Just for the record guys I hated to see Levi leave GT cuz I’ve shot them for the last 15yrs as well, but I totally get it I’m not digging Levi theirs not a ton of money in the outdoor / target archery world this isn’t the NFL or the Big leagues I wish him the best for him and his family however I have empathy for the guys that spent their hard earned money on his LRP line of arrows built on a gold tip shaft in conjunction with Schwacker and TAC vanes seems like they were up around $500 a dozen or something idk for sure but many followed him down that rabbit hole now what, wether it made the average Joe a better shooter or killer, in their mind it did ,cuz Levi shot them as well
From: Bou'bound
03-Jan-24
Murph they were simply mindless suckers if that was their decision criteria to spend five bucks or five hundred. So no empathy here for a Consumer who made a purchase based on a spokesman’s alliance with a product.
From: LBshooter
03-Jan-24
It’s all about the money, and maybe he is taking less money on the front end but what’s the back end paying? Good for him if he’s got a better deal, capitalism is what’s it’s all about. However, one might ask that what if GT didn’t sponsor him in the beginning , where might Levi have ended up. They brought him to the dance and then he’s out challenging hunters to investigate the new arrow lol what a joke. Would have more respect for the guy if he just came out and said I’m making more or I own some of the company or whatever the truth is. He can’t come out and say they are better arrows after years of saying GT’s are the ultimate arrow. I’m sure there will be plenty of guys who bite but Levi lost some cred for leaving the very first sponsor that helped make him what he is today. I guess nobody seems to be loyal any longer . As a spokesman I wouldn’t buy whatever he’s hocking.
From: Chris Walker
04-Jan-24
I kinda think Levi made himself what he is today. I also believe he could have "went to the dance " with any company he wanted in the beginning. Who knows where GT would be today without him...works both ways. And for what it's worth, I'm still shooting PSE X Weaves.
From: DanaC
04-Jan-24
I have to wonder how much money he actually made from GT. Sure they probably covered a lot of his expenses, but an actual salary? And was GT the only company who sponsored him?
And he still had to/ has to 'walk the walk' on the competition line.
From: Ricky The Cabel Guy
04-Jan-24
"But 4 times in a row? The others are deleted now..."
hde...
i only posted one time...and i didnt remove anything...so it must have been a glitch in the bowsite matrix.
:)
From: KHNC
04-Jan-24
Levi grew up here in my area of NC. He would still be a champion no matter what brands of archery equipment he used. Remember he switched to Elite for a few years and was still a winner. Mathews cant stand to not be on top of winners bracket, so they will probably pay whatever it takes to retain top shooters. Unlike bowtech.
From: Bou'bound
04-Jan-24
If Chuck Adams can change from Hoyt to Bear archery and not be an issue it shouldn’t be an issue for anyone to change companies for anything.
That’s certainly not a change that’s made for quality of equipment purposes. Nor would it have any impact on him, killing anything he wanted to.
From: WapitiBob
06-Jan-24
Altra arrows are a product from the Outdoor Group, they own elite, slick trick, and some others. Likely a Korean made shaft.
From: Pat Lefemine
06-Jan-24
I really like Levi. But I’ve been in the industry long enough to know better than to think that Levi is great due to Gold Tips, or any product he uses. He’s great because he’s a machine and has devoted most of his life to archery. The product is basically irrelevant in his hands.
From: Bowfreak
08-Jan-24
They are made in China. It is stamped on the box..
From: Ricky The Cabel Guy
08-Jan-24
arent gold tip shafts made in mexico? i know they used to be. hard pressed to find many products that are made 100% in usa.
From: Bowfreak
08-Jan-24
They were made in Mexico. I assume they still are but am not certain.
From: PECO2
08-Jan-24
I don't care what Levi shoots. I don't care what Lee or Tiffany shoots. I don't care about what any of them shoot, I actually would care more about what any of you shoot. However, none of it will influence what I shoot.
From: Twinetickler
09-Jan-24
I'll keep shooting my Easton Epics I bought from Boubound. They kill stuff dead. Thanks Bou!
From: Bou'bound
09-Jan-24
Glad someone figured out how to kill things with them.
From: JakeBrake
09-Jan-24
Nice to see he doesn’t have one of those nose pokey things on his string from the stupid bowmars Hope he never supports those jaggoffs
From: Insheart
10-Jan-24
Jake, he did come out in support of Bowmars.
From: DanaC
10-Jan-24
I'd bet what is far more important is how he prepares his arrows -how he tunes them, how he chooses his components, etc. etc.
Oh, and how many thousands of practice shots per day/week/month/year.
From: midwest
10-Jan-24
From: DanaC
10-Jan-24
What do they charge for that little nose 'tickler'? >;-)
From: Ricky The Cabel Guy
10-Jan-24
Ricky The Cabel Guy's Link
"What do they charge for that little nose 'tickler'?"
aint america great?
From: midwest
10-Jan-24
Bodie is a phenom.
From: WapitiBob
10-Jan-24
"Crazy stupid.....I can sqeeeeeez the trigger on a gun all day. To do the same with a bow will drive me nuts. ?????????.."
it's all in your head. A friend of mine won a bunch of pro shoots, shot a clean 560 field, etc, and used to say "aiming's over rated." Essentially what Bodie said, "the dot moves all over but i just keep squeezing the release and they just go in the middle" to paraphrase. Ben shot his release the same way, squeezed it just like a rifle trigger, and watched the dot move around "like watching tv." It all depends on what your brain lets you do.
From: midwest
11-Jan-24
Joel has a good analogy. When you are driving a car, you aren't consciously making all the little adjustments to the steering wheel to keep you in the center of your lane. That same proprioception that keeps you centered in the lane will also keep your pin moving back to the middle.
