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Thornton 20-Jan-24
Ken Moody Safaris 20-Jan-24
bghunter 20-Jan-24
Thornton 20-Jan-24
drycreek 20-Jan-24
Bake 20-Jan-24
fuzzy 21-Jan-24
wildwilderness 21-Jan-24
JG 21-Jan-24
Iowa Rut Nut 21-Jan-24
fuzzy 21-Jan-24
llamapacker 21-Jan-24
Bake 21-Jan-24
Thornton 21-Jan-24
JG 21-Jan-24
GVS 21-Jan-24
RK 21-Jan-24
scndwfstlhntng 21-Jan-24
Quinn @work 22-Jan-24
Frenchman 22-Jan-24
Chief 419 22-Jan-24
kscowboy 22-Jan-24
kscowboy 22-Jan-24
BOHUNTER09 22-Jan-24
Quinn @work 22-Jan-24
JG 24-Jan-24
Buffalo1 24-Jan-24
MQQSE 24-Jan-24
Buffalo1 24-Jan-24
Thornton 28-Jan-24
Thornton 28-Jan-24
fuzzy 28-Jan-24
Ambush 28-Jan-24
Thornton 28-Jan-24
fuzzy 28-Jan-24
Thornton 28-Jan-24
fuzzy 28-Jan-24
MA-PAdeerslayer 28-Jan-24
Thornton 28-Jan-24
From: Thornton
20-Jan-24
I've got a tentative hunt lined up for Namibia in a few months. No idea what to expect and I'd like any pointers or advice. Probably just going to hunt wildebeest, warthog, and maybe some other small stuff. I really don't want to take much gear, and might actually rent a gun from the outfitter. Haven't decided yet. Thanks again.

20-Jan-24
Namibia is cool. Nice hunting. What area are you hunting?

From: bghunter
20-Jan-24
My biggest regret when I hunted Africa, was not shooting extra animals or animals the PH offered me at a discount. It will be way more expensive to go back again.

Other regret is not buying more wood carvings and curios.

I am glad when I went, I used a rifle. I think I would have missed a lot sitting in a blind all day. Just my two cents.

From: Thornton
20-Jan-24
Not sure yet Ken. The hunt is being set up by someone else and I was invited. I should be getting an email soon with all the logistics details.

From: drycreek
20-Jan-24
Thornton said, “The hunt is being set up by someone else and I’m being invited”

I got to get better friends………..

From: Bake
20-Jan-24
You don’t need much gear. You can do Africa out of a daypack. I think most places will do laundry every day or at least every other day. Find out who you’re going with and ask them what to bring as far as pants, shorts, etc. and take a good puffy jacket. Mornings may be cool

Take more money and be prepared to shoot more than you think.

If you’re gonna do much walking in sandy areas, gaiters may be recommended. Order now. The popular Boyt shumba gaiters can be hard to find sometimes. I bought a couple pairs from MidwayUSA last fall but before that they were impossible to find.

Have fun. Africa is amazing. I’ve seen very little of it, but I’ve loved every time I’ve been.

From: fuzzy
21-Jan-24
Best advice I can give is talk to Ken Moody.

21-Jan-24
I hope you are bringing a bow. Sitting waterholes is very effective and neat to see all the animals. Some hunt can be too “easy” with a rifle depending on property etc. other a rifle may be your only chance at a certain trophy. There should be plenty of rifles from the outfitter to use if you want to go that route.

You may think you aren’t interest now but seeing so many different varieties in person was way more exciting than I thought. Ending up shooting a few extras I did t think I would like but in Person it’s so much better

21-Jan-24

Altitude Sickness 's Link
Go to the website “Africahunting” Use the safari planning guide. It has everything from booking your airline, to clothing, tips, permits Etc https://www.africahunting.com/community/safari-planning-guide/

21-Jan-24

Altitude Sickness 's Link
Here is an example of a thread you will find in the planning guide

21-Jan-24

Altitude Sickness 's embedded Photo
Altitude Sickness 's embedded Photo
Animal anatomy, shoot straight up the leg not behind it.

If you take a bow find a case that does not look like a hard rifle case. or it’ll be thrown with the rifles. and you’ll be in the same line as a rifle hunters doing their paperwork.

If it’s short enough, ATA, stick it in your suitcase, or get a soft bow case made for travel.

Use a travel agent used to booking airfare for Namibia. It’s worth the small fee they charge

Renting a rifle avoids a lot of headaches

Take 2 pairs of pants. 3 shirts. A fleece vest, fleece coat a warm Beenie cap, or watch cap, low ankle high, soft soled hiking boots. Don’t take heavy Vibram type lugged boots.

Try to do both blind hunting and stalking. Each has its own benefit.

Namibia is famous for Gemsbok and Eland hunts. Tracking an Eland on foot is a great challenging hunt

Warthogs are the best. Cheap, entertaining to watch. And actually challenging. Because everything there wants to eat them. They easily jump the string of the quietist of bows. Even recurves and longbows aren’t quiet enough. To avoid them dropping

The picture is a warthog dropping and spinning at the sound of my quiet recurve bow. You can see my arrow in the pigs side. This same set up had already killed a mature Eland.

The arrow hit at a different angle and the pig was spinning as it hit. Made for relatively long tracking

Everything there is jumpy. But pigs even more so.

The best piece of advice I can give. Is DONT GO It will hook you. I’ve met a lot of people who say they are not interested in hunting Africa. But I’ve never met anyone that hunted it that did not want to go back.

From: JG
21-Jan-24
I went in August for first time and I think about going back every day. Such a cool experience

Don’t bring a lot of clothes. Bring light weight dark tops for blind. I had too warm of shirts.

Bring a lot of arrows. Those big animals I struggled getting pass through and broke most of them. I brought a dozen and came home with 2

From: Iowa Rut Nut
21-Jan-24
Take some permithrin base tick spray in pump bottle form. If you have time and extra money a trip to Etosha Park is worth it.

From: fuzzy
21-Jan-24
JG bring a lot of arrows is great advice for any trip.

From: llamapacker
21-Jan-24
Bring a power converter to charge your phone, camera, etc. There are cheap, international charger sets that will work in almost any country.

Take lots of pictures. Enjoy just being out in the bush. IT really doesn't take much to prepare, so don't over think it.

Let us know when you find out who you are hunting with and perhaps a few more specific recommendations can be added.

Bill

From: Bake
21-Jan-24

Bake's embedded Photo
Bake's embedded Photo
God I wanna go back. This was after a 15 mile walk through sandveld.

From: Thornton
21-Jan-24
All good advice guys, except for shorts. I don't wear shorts, even running my business in 100 degree weather.

From: JG
21-Jan-24
I think you also really need to think through your list.

My first trip I decided to focus on Cape buffalo and take whatever the bush gives me if it’s a trophy. Plus every wart hog they’d let me shoot

I decided not to shoot moneys, ostriches or giraffes just because it didn’t feel right. I had shots and comfortably passed them

My list is down to 36 after my first trip. It’s gonna get harder which makes it even more fun

Animals will show up fast. The guide will want you to shoot every trophy and culls that show up

We had some people in camp that bought a cheap auction hunt. They only shot the animals they bought on the auction. I stayed up with guides drinking after dinner. You could tell they were not happy. They were not making any money on these customers and just wasting time in the blind

From: GVS
21-Jan-24
Treat your clothes with permethrin before you go. Watching the animals at the water holes is amazing. Take a video camera. Gun hunters miss so much. On warthogs and impala you must not only have a good shot but the animal mus t be relaxed. you will figure it out. Have a great time.

From: RK
21-Jan-24
Thornton I would be a wealth of knowledge on this. BUT. You know I just can't help you Others that have been there more or less than I will be very helpful. Good luck on your choices

21-Jan-24
You will be missing a great deal of experiences and opportunities if you don't do some homework. It will be the most fun homework that you will ever have. Ask a million questions, learn a little about the story of Namibia, learn about the climate and geography of Namibia and the areas that you are and are not going to see, learn about the animals that you will see and learn about which ones are native to that area and which ones have been introduced for hunting from another area, learn about the native cultures and tribes ( there are several main ones) and learn about the Bushmen of the Kalahari. I imagine that there are even You Tube videos of some of this. If you just " show up" you will miss a lot of the experience that you might otherwise have. Namibia is a lovely place and easy to get to know.

From: Quinn @work
22-Jan-24
If you are possibly going on a hunt won at an auction, buyer beware. Some are OK but most are a cheap way to get you over there in the off season in hopes that you buy more animals.

There's no reason to rifle hunt in Africa. You will have plenty of bow opportunities if you go with the right outfitter.

If you are going to spend the money to go do it right the first time. There are a few bow site sponsors and a couple well vetted concessions on bow site. I would not take a chance on going with anyone else.

Another good option is going with Bowhunting Safaris Consultants and having them place you with an outfitter that will be best for YOUR desired trip.

From: Frenchman
22-Jan-24
In Africa, you never regret anything you shoot - so shoot first - ask questions later. a good book if you're gonna sit in a blind.. or extra battery for your phone... take lots of pictures... and don't get mad if you find yourself planning a return trip while still in the plane...

From: Chief 419
22-Jan-24
Here’s the advice I’ll give you. Do t bring more than 3 sets of hunting shirt, pants, socks, etc. The camp staff will wash your clothes everyday.

Get a price list from the safaris company. Study the animals carefully. Set a reasonable budget & make a list of the animals you want to take. When you get to Africa, throw your list away, let the arrows or lead fly and worry about the cost when you get home!

Take what Africa gives you. Some of the animals that you weren’t initially interested in are very impressive when you see them coming in to the waterhole. Tell your PH your target animals and they’ll do their best to put you in the right concessions for success.

From: kscowboy
22-Jan-24
Jason,

Feel free to PM me. I'm in Wichita and am happy to walk you through everything. I've been over 4 times and my father 10+. We are happy to share everything we know and then some.

From: kscowboy
22-Jan-24
I posted this some years back on another forum:

This exact thread exists on another board but it's more geared for the archery hunters. As we look at the shows just around the corner, I thought it would be great to have a similar thread on here for people as they prepare to book their hunts for the years 2016 and 2017.

Some of my words of wisdom:

Get out and see the landscape! Bowhunters sit in concrete port-a-potties and miss so much of the scenery. Drive around and spot-and-stalk. Shoot some birds when you hit an afternoon lull. Francolin are excellent on the table.

If you are saving money and think you are almost there for this upcoming year, save for one more year. You don't want to be strapped for cash and on a restrictive budget when the trophy of a lifetime emerges. You will go over budget, TIA.

Buy the cheap airline ticket in coach. There is no need to pay-up for a better class ticket when you can use this "savings" towards your hunt and taxidermy.

If you find a good free-range hunt, you need to take it. Africa is changing for the worse (thanks, China) and it could be ranch hunting as the only option sooner than later. Get out and experience the real Africa while it still exists.

Most of your trackers and male camp staff smoke. Grab a carton of cigarettes at the duty-free before you leave Johannesburg. If they have unfiltered, grab those. You will be their best friend when you have some smokes for them. Don't give them all out at once, stagger the distribution throughout the trip.

Bring hard candy, if you have weight in your bag. If there are little children in nearby villages, there is nothing more precious than seeing their smiling faces as you give them candy. If there aren't any children, your camp staff will love it.

Bring some old issues of hunting and outdoor magazines to leave for the trackers. Most of your staff can't read English but they are fascinated by the pictures of wildlife they have never seen before.

RSA is fine for plains game but don't shoot a ranch Cape Buffalo. If you have a Cape on your bucket list, save for a free-range hunt and go that route. Be warned that some parts of Zimbabwe are very tough due to poaching (voice of experience here).

Lions are not crossing into RSA from Botswana. Lions are not "eating all the game on my friend's ranch" and he can get you a great deal. These are the two biggest tricks in the book for you to shoot a canned lion. If that is your thing, that's fine but if you have reservations about hunting a released pen-raised lion, this is the scam to make you think you did it the "real" way. Wild lion hunts don't take just a couple of hours!

Do not have your taxidermy done in RSA. There are numerous horror stories of people getting the wrong animal back, not getting their animals at all, and just crappy taxidermy work.

Save the back skins on some of your trophies. They look great tanned and draped over a couch or chair.

Most of your shots are under 150 yards. I have had one trip that was an exception, a river valley in Western Tanzania. Remember, you wound, you pay. This cowboy long-range fad is cool but not so much fun when you lose a kudu and are out $1,500.

Shoot a Barnes TSX or similar bullet. Sure those Bergers and others hype the shock and knock-down power of their bullets but these aren't whitetail you are shooting. Penetration is key here. Your trackers will find it if you hit him right. Penetration, penetration, penetration. Got it?

Bring a soft gun case for your firearms. It would suck to have a nice rifle riding around exposed in a truck gun rack.

Buy a copy of Kevin "Doctari" Robertson's book, The Perfect Shot. Kevin is a vet and PH. His books discuss the anatomy of the African animals and some facts about them. Just about every PH has his Mini Edition in the truck.

You do not need to pack a bunch of clothes. Your laundry is done daily. Two sets of hunting clothes and a light jacket will suffice for most hunts. If you are going to an area with lots of Tsetse flies, don't bring shorts.

3M Ultrathon lotion is great on Tsetse flies. Avon Skin So Soft is great for Mopane Bees. Ask your PH if you are in an area with either one of these insects. They are terrible.

You will be hooked on the Dark Continent. You will be back. Consider yourself warned that it's addicting.

I'm sure others will come to mind and I will edit as I think of them. I am anxious to see what others can contribute to this discussion, as I know the similar thread benefited many hunters as they prepped for their first hunts.

From: BOHUNTER09
22-Jan-24
I’ve been watching this topic with interest. I’m awaiting a contract with Limcroma for late summer. All these comments are useful to me

From: Quinn @work
22-Jan-24
Good info kscowboy.

From: JG
24-Jan-24
I hunted the northern cape of South Africa and Botswana. My outfitter told me August is the best month for bow hunting

It’s the dry season and the animals have to drink so water holes are golden

From: Buffalo1
24-Jan-24
Thornton ck your emails

From: MQQSE
24-Jan-24
May have already been noted above, but be sure to budget a pile of $ to get all your trophies home.

From: Buffalo1
24-Jan-24
Check out Africahunting.com. The gold standard website for African hunting info.

From: Thornton
28-Jan-24
I appreciate all the advice, emails, phone # etc. I honestly still haven't made up my mind yet on this trip. I have a Utah lion hunt and a Canada fishing trip booked this spring. Combined with my lawn business starting in April, I'm wondering how I could fit it all in. I appreciate the insight, and there are some dynamics I never considered, such as not shooting everything the guide offers. Honestly, I'd be happy with a wildebeest, warthog, and maybe some small hooved species. I'm not made of money like some guys on here. This is not an "auction hunt" as some have suggested, but an established outfitter on 500,000 acres and is being hosted by someone in the hunting/shooting industry we all know. I feel if I pass it up, I may regret it in 20 years if I'm still alive. I'll post if I decide to go ahead. I am having a hard time figuring out where I'll fly to? I live near Wichita, KS.

28-Jan-24
For a warthog and wildebeest it wouldn’t take long. 5 days

That should be in the $3000 range daily rate and trophy fees. Without airfare. This is show season. And there are sponsors on here that offer better package deals. And auction hunts. You may be able to get a 7 day hunt and 4-5 animals with Limcroma for $3-$4k

From: Thornton
28-Jan-24
Wildebeest at this ranch is $1250-1500 depending on blue or black, warthog is $750. Daily PH fees are $450 1:1, or $350 2:1.

From: fuzzy
28-Jan-24
Just a thought, didn't you recently comment about being disappointed with a Kodiak Island hunt? I'm sort of concerned that the same thing may happen with Africa. For me these exotic hunts are more about just being there, appreciation of the scenery, different cultures and life ways, and the history of the area. If the hunt is the only measure of enjoyment you may (or may not) be disappointed with a limited kill list. Just thinking out loud.

From: Ambush
28-Jan-24
My first time, I shot ten animals in eight days of a ten day hunt. Took some hours out during the day to drive around and do daily business with my PH. My wife spent a lot of time with the PH’s wife just doing life in SA. Went to a game park one day. My PH and I split up to sit for baboons one day. He is a hard core bowhunter.

We also took another two weeks to tour Zimbabwe and Botswana’s Chobe park. Spent a few days in J-berg.

It’s a long expensive flight. Make the most of it once you’re there.

Impala are cheap and to me one of the most beautiful mounts that say “Africa” in a quiet understated way. A Zebra rug also says Africa. Keep in mind, you can buy hides pretty cheap at the main airports. Often cheaper that in the local gift shops.

If you’re going to gun hunt, definitely rent one there, but negotiate a price before going. But I think you are missing some of the “up close” excitement if not bow hunting.

For opportunity and diversity, there is no place like SA, especially bang or twang for your dollar.

From: Thornton
28-Jan-24
Fuzzy- I don't care that much about killing any more. In fact, I hate the notion of going all the way to Africa just to kill animals. I could have killed over a dozen deer when I went to Alaska and I have the photos and video to prove it. I had a hard time warming up to the idea of shooting something I would pass on back home. I shot plenty of ducks, crabbed, ate excellent seafood, fished, located a big grizz for the guy with the tag. The alcoholism, weather, piss poor management of game, litter in pristine places, and costs were my complaints. I only had $2k in that entire hunt including airfare, so I wasn't losing much either.

From: fuzzy
28-Jan-24
I'm sure you'll find alcoholism, sloth, unacceptable weather and poor game management in Africa as well. I'm a bit puzzled that you say you did an entire Kodiak trip for 2K and were dissatisfied with costs. I spent that much on air fare and lodging.

From: Thornton
28-Jan-24
Good for you. I spent $20k on engine repairs on my own plane last year and I'll still complain about it.

From: fuzzy
28-Jan-24
Lol...I'm not surprised to learn that.

28-Jan-24
Spending $20k on engine repairs on your own plane but you’re not made of money and can’t see going to Africa to just kill animals…? I’d scrap Africa then and upgrade my plane some more. Maybe new electronics

From: Thornton
28-Jan-24
The only reason I pointed out the cost is so you'd know I wasn't pointing out the problems of Alaska because it cost me a lot of money. 4 of us divided costs, and two guys lived there and we used their trucks, boat and even a 300 ft ship the main host is a captain of. If you're unsure about any of this, feel free to look up my semi-live 2023 hunt on the KS site.

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