Kristi Noem
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From: scentman
29-Apr-24
It is reported Kristi shot her pet dog for killing a chicken, I have seen her on TV commercials and thought she is bat shit crazy... guess I was right. scentman

From: JohnMC
29-Apr-24
We can let RK and Thornton debate this topic.

From: drycreek
29-Apr-24
I don’t see your point about the commercials, scentman. A commercial is an acting job, simple as that. To know if she is bat shit crazy I think you would have to know her a little better.

From: scentman
29-Apr-24
I would appreciate a possible presidential running mate to be themselves not "acting" in a role, no props, no costume, just you getting your point across. Is that not hard to understand? scentman

29-Apr-24

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"It is reported Kristi shot her pet dog for killing a chicken..."

as usual...it would appear that what was "reported" is both out of context and incomplete...

noem also stated that the dog was “dangerous to anyone she came in contact with.”

...no surprise there.

even if it was just for killing a chicken...according to sd law...it would have been perfectly legal.

"40-34-1. Killing of dog lawful when disturbing domestic animals.

It shall be lawful for any person to kill any dog found chasing, worrying, injuring, or killing poultry or domestic animals except on the premises of the owners of said dog or dogs."

29-Apr-24
She is one of the most important politicians in the USA holding the line against Evil, Leftist, Marxists who are determined to destroy the country. She really showed her strength during the COVID lockdown insanity and she continues to fight the good fight!

Our Alberta, Premiere Danielle Smith is equally important in Canada!!

From: scentman
29-Apr-24
If I put a chicken in front of my hunting dog and he didn't kill it, I'd put a dunnce hat on him. scentman

From: q d m
29-Apr-24
Mike U said it best.

From: scentman
29-Apr-24
This is a Romney moment... move on from Noem, she done. scentman

From: boothill
29-Apr-24
Where I live if a dog is known to be a cattle chaser the situation doesn't last very long. Normally all it takes is a phone call between neighbors that their dog is chasing on another property and the problem stops.

From: ILbowhntr
29-Apr-24
Shot one of my labs once for killing the neighbors chickens. When the poodle police showed up, I showed him the grave. Guess I can’t run for office anymore.

From: Bou'bound
29-Apr-24
Trust that the owner knows best about the issue and resolution. at least more than. 40% of internet chat boarders

29-Apr-24
The stupid dog thing is just meant to stir up emotions for small minded, emotional city people. So many horrible, large scale things are done by politicians against humans it’s ridiculous in comparison.

Scentman is another idiotic, leftist, just like flatlander and bigeasy. If bowsite was a gathering of in-person hunters these guys wouldn’t last a minute after voicing their opinions.

From: drycreek
29-Apr-24
If “she done” scentman, how is she a possible running mate and why worry about it ? You make no sense.

From: deserthunter
29-Apr-24
I agree Mike. One of the hardest things I have ever done was when I was 11. I had a yellow Lab that killed my moms geese. We ate those geese and ate their eggs so when my dog killed them I killed my dog.

29-Apr-24
Nothing wrong with doing what is necessary, but why discuss it even a little bit ? Pretty stupid if you ask me.

From: 12yards
29-Apr-24
I thought I read that the dog had bitten somebody and was mean. If so she did the right thing.

29-Apr-24
If you hear the full story, the dog was also a menace to people. Dogs that are a menace to people often times need to be put down. I understand people love dogs, but a bad dog is a bad dog and sometimes putting them down is the best option, even though it's difficult.

The ARAs will never agree with this, but they also believe that we should not be killing fish to eat and should live-trap rats and release them into the wild.

From: fdp
29-Apr-24
The dog bit her according to her recitation of the event. She shot a goat the same day....twice.

From: Jethro
29-Apr-24
Read the book first. Then start a thread about it.

From: Rgiesey
29-Apr-24
Nice Mike! I don’t read posts from some of those guys.

29-Apr-24
"It is reported..."

...is usually all that is necessary in order to immediately question the the validity of everything that follows.

this case is no different.

From: nchunter
29-Apr-24
This is without a doubt one of the dumbest post I have seen yet. Way to go Scentman, you just made TBM happy for taking his place for worst post.

From: buckhammer
29-Apr-24
A dogs behavior is a reflection of its owner......

From: sbschindler
29-Apr-24
any dog trainer I've ever known,do not train their dogs to kill but to point, honor the point and or to flush and retrieve with out mangling the bird

From: butcherboy
29-Apr-24
So what? I’ve killed dogs, cats, horses, cattle. Ever grow up on a farm or ranch like she did? It’s part of normal life. An aggressive dog is definitely not always a reflection of its owner. Noem is the best thing for South Dakota right now.

From: DanaC
29-Apr-24
Don Thomas wrote about putting down one of his lion hunting dogs some years back. Dog was getting out of control.

From: Vonfoust
29-Apr-24
Some things need done. Some things don't need to be talked about outside of small circles. Especially if you are an aspiring politician.

From: 4nolz@work
29-Apr-24
Just a pre-emptive bashing against a potential VP candidate.Typical predictable tactic.

From: scentman
29-Apr-24
She could have hired Tim Wells to do her dirty work. scentman

From: Ben
29-Apr-24
The only reason the left has a target on her is because she is a potential V.P. candidate. If it was anyone else it would be a nothing burger. Look for the left to make up crap about anyone they see as a threat. They are a party of liars!

From: fdp
29-Apr-24
"Look for the left to make up crap about anyone they see as a threat. They are a party of liars!".....that is absolutely delusional. SHE made the statement so nobody made up anything. The fact she did a stupid is on HER, not anyone else. And to say the left is a party of liars when the right is lead by DJT is a sign of incognizance.

From: 70lbDraw
29-Apr-24
“And to say the left is a party of liars when the right is lead by DJT is a sign of incognizance.”

Please debunk the following Trump quote regarding J6, reported from NPR.

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

From: stealthycat
29-Apr-24
its just a dog - I don't know that I agree with what she did (I need to read the book, not snippets out of it spliced into something)

but she did kill her political career IMO - you can kill a dog and be ok ... you really can't kill a dog and let everyone know about it and remain unscathed

From: fdp
29-Apr-24
70lb. I'm not sure what that question has to do with the subject. Trump has told numerous lies and they are mostly very well documented.

Nobody told a lie about Crazy Kristi as was inferred...she said it herself.

From: LUNG$HOT
29-Apr-24
This is as irrelevant as when Trump said “Grab em by the Pu$$¥”. Who cares if she shot her misbehaved aggressive dog?

Answer: Nobody!

From: fdp
29-Apr-24
It's as relevant as the Biden crime family that Jim and the gang have been trying to create, the improprieties of Hunter and any number of other things that the Righteous Right Bowsite Bruh's have come up with to talk about.

From: APauls
29-Apr-24
People act like there's no such thing as a bad dog. Give me a break. Same with that line "A dog is a reflection of their owner." Not true.

My wife owns a little dog at home that practically deserves to be put down (IMO) but my wife is one of the finest people on earth. The thing was just born with some innate desire to defend my wife at any whim coming out of its stupid skull. It hears a noise? Must be someone coming to attack us. BARK BARK BARK!!!! My daughter invites a friend over? Must be someone coming over to attach us - go get em!!! It's killed my cousins' daughter's chickens and rabbits and will kill anything it can. It just happens to be an actually somewhat intelligent dog with a completely messed up baseline understanding of life. Tell me how the same owner had a wonderful golden retriever that wouldn't bite if I tried to make it bite, and never barked while this little thing is a menace? Breed related? Sure. But it's a dog, just like the retriever was.

Some dogs just need to go. Some humans too. Just the way it is. If someone takes out their own dog because it's a menace good on them. They know the dog better than anyone else.

From: BC
29-Apr-24
No big deal. This is just the lefties wringing their hands again. Another news cycle and it’ll be on to the next “outrage”.

29-Apr-24
"SHE made the statement so nobody made up anything..."

no...they just left out some pertinent info. a lie by omission is still a lie.

interesting that the same leftist ilk that doesnt seem to have any problem killing their innocent offspring...gets all up in arms about someone putting down a hostile dog.

even funnier yet...those same leftists feel the exact same way about every one of us killing an animal with an arrow. yet some here will still vote for them.

From: Bent arrow
29-Apr-24
Who gives a crap. With all the sh__ goin on in this world this is ur concern. We got a clown and his clownets runnin r country in the ground. Sellin us out to who ever.

From: hdaman
29-Apr-24
Well said Mike! All of it!

From: fdp
29-Apr-24
".they just left out some pertinent info. i lie by omission is still a lie."..what are you talking about?

29-Apr-24

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Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Another reason why the leftists hate her. Bigeasy and flatlander think a man can be a woman just by thinking it, no wonder people like them and scentman hate her.

From: 70lbDraw
29-Apr-24
".they just left out some pertinent info. i lie by omission is still a lie."..what are you talking about?“

Go back and look at my example of trumps quote, then look at what the Democrats omitted to fit their agenda.

It’s funny how the most pertinent information is overlooked every time you say, “That’s not relevant to the topic.”…cuz it usually is!

From: nchunter
29-Apr-24
Scentman- mission accomplished, conquer by division.

29-Apr-24
My neighbor put her child down last month. 3 months pregnant and she had an abortion. I haven’t heard anything about her killing her kid on the news. Shoot a dog that won’t hunt and every liberal in the country pass out. The SD governor has bigger balls than most of the wussies on here do.

From: Starfire
29-Apr-24
And someone would be calling her out if she hadn't put it down for killing chickens and biting people. Dammed if you do, Dammed if you don't. Dogs on Farm/Ranches are treated differently than City Dogs. They don't come in the house, they live in a kennel. My woke neighbor gets upset because my other neighbor doesn't let the dogs in the house and they are outside all winter and summer because the owner grew up on a farm and that is how it was done. The woke neighbor is upset because the dog does not have access to Air conditioning. and forced air heat.

From: PushCoArcher
29-Apr-24
City folks are funny. If a dog harasses or kills livestock around here it dies pretty simple. I love my dogs too but there lives are no more sacred then a calf, sheep, chicken,etc.

From: TRnCO
29-Apr-24
did this happen like 20 years ago.

Heck, MSNBC probably has reporters digging looking for anyone that can say they witnessed it so that they can then press animal cruelty charges on her. LOL...they like to dig up dirt when they scarred....

From: Starfire
29-Apr-24
It was in her recently released book.

From: Recurve Man
29-Apr-24
NMhigh country. Exactly. Society is that ignorant now days. Abortion is a right according to most. Shoot an ignorant animal and you’re a criminal.

She’s my kinda woman. Allowed on my farm or hunting camp anytime. I love people with common sense.

Shane

From: Dale06
29-Apr-24
My brothers neighbors dogs were chasing his cattle. He killed four of them with a mini 14. One dog escaped and ran home to the neighbors. My brother went to the neighbors and told them what happened. The neighbor said kill the one remaining dog that was in his yard. I have zero issue with Kristi killing her dog.

From: Nomad
29-Apr-24
If you think she's bat shit crazy then you have a serious hitch in your giddyup! Absolutely pathetic! Real women must scare the panties right off of you!

From: DanaC
29-Apr-24
"Heck, MSNBC probably has reporters digging looking for anyone that can say they witnessed it"

Actually she tells the story herself, in her new book.

From: Quinn @work
29-Apr-24
Another thread turned political? Pretty soon we'll be down to the same 4 guys going back and forth for 200 posts.................and no one will win.

From: Zbone
29-Apr-24
I hope Trump chooses her for his running mate...

From: JohnMC
29-Apr-24
Quinn better than 5 people and 250 post. In other words Timex being gone helps a little

From: Bou'bound
29-Apr-24
Does she bowhunt?

From: bowhunt
29-Apr-24
I have heard she does!

From: hunterjoe
29-Apr-24

hunterjoe's embedded Photo
hunterjoe's embedded Photo
Yup I agree with Mike U

From: 70lbDraw
29-Apr-24
“Another thread turned political?”

I know right?! Scentman disguised his thread title as a common bow-hunting term! It almost took me 50 posts to figure it out as well. Not really, I just didn’t want you to feel alone.

From: HDE
29-Apr-24
"Does she bowhunt?"

Yes. Not only that, but hunts upland game and fishes too.

From: TonyBear
29-Apr-24
"...the full story, the dog was also a menace to people. Dogs that are a menace to people often times need to be put down. I understand people love dogs, but a bad dog is a bad dog and sometimes putting them down is the best option, even though it's difficult." I have an extended family member who had a rescue animal tear someone up pretty good on Superbowl Sunday. Animal got all wired up when family members were screwing around wrasslin, makin fun with each other during half-time. Same dog went after a mentally challenged child when she got too close to it last summer during family reunion. Should have been destroyed then.

The suburban Libs and media mongrels care a lot more about puppies/dogs than the thousands of children killed by their insane abortion practices. I don't state that lightly as I live in a state that is proposing abortion up to and including birth-even for healthy mothers and healthy unborn, to be placed in the state's constitution. Forty years ago, I had the unique experience of holding a premie in the palm of my hand when he was 3#. Was one of the first kids who got to use a newborn respiratory unit and the donor surfactant so he could survive. His two brothers and several cousins who were later term than he was didn't survive. Many of the aborted children today are viable and its waste of human resources just to kill them all since there this warped view of parental obligation these days..

From: RutnStrut
29-Apr-24
fdp, don't you claim not to be a lefty? Yet you sure do sound like one.

From: scentman
29-Apr-24
Johnmc, I value your opinion. Can you elaborate on this subject? scentman

From: Thornton
29-Apr-24
I can vouch I have 2 dogs that would have definitely killed the chicken.

From what I have read RK post, he would have shot the dog, and would probably have shot the chicken if it got near one of his corn feeders.

As for me, I would have definitely shot the chicken, and not the dog.

From: Aspen Ghost
29-Apr-24
Over a million dogs are put down every year in this country by so called "humane societies". Why is anyone concerned about this particular dog?

From: Quinn @work
30-Apr-24
Agree JohnMC. Bowsite slowly making progress!

From: Wirehair
30-Apr-24
A really good bird dog doesn’t even bother chickens.

From: Bowbaker
30-Apr-24
She is a fantastic governor lord I wish we could say the same about ours.

30-Apr-24
“Another thread turned political?”

turned political?

this tread was political from its inception.

30-Apr-24
back to the original topic…who is more “bat sh*t crazy.”

a person who puts down an aggressive dog?

or…

a person who’s dog has repeatedly attacked people…yet the owner continues to put the dog in situations where it is likely to happen again?

30-Apr-24
She is now damaged goods. Trump should not choose her.

The unfortunate truth is that if she is Trumps VP choice.

The Obama/Clinton attack team will be activated and she will be portrayed as evil.

As said above. Our Michigan Governor pushed for legal abortion until 8 months or birth. And that is what we now have.

They are so vapid and hollow that they feel more for a dog than a baby. Because to them. Humans are the scourge of the earth.

From: scentman
30-Apr-24
That was my point from the beginning... reason I started the thread... glad to know you guys got my six, I'm your huckleberry. scentman

From: Nomad
30-Apr-24
"It is reported Kristi shot her pet dog for killing a chicken, I have seen her on TV commercials and thought she is bat shit crazy... guess I was right. scentman"

"That was my point from the beginning... reason I started the thread... glad to know you guys got my six, I'm your huckleberry. scentman"

You sound like Joe Biden.

From: RonP
30-Apr-24
there are voters that do not understand hunting and ranching and can be easily swayed. some of you should drop the bravado and recognize the way you win elections, lead, and grow support for an agenda is to communicate effectively and sway voters. it is something that noem and trump struggle with and why desantis would have been a better candidate. she would be a disastrous pick for veep.

i do not know the context of why information was released about her shooting a 14 month old dog but, it was dumb to be forthcoming with that information if she was. it is also dumb to think that just because people don't hunt or raise cattle, they are flaming liberals.

at this time the election is a statistical tie, and it will come down to women, independents, and younger voters. safe to say many of them do not hunt or ranch.

what comes to mind is the woman in montana last year that shot the husky thinking it was a wolf and paraded it all over fake book. or, the more recent idiot from wyoming that injured a wolf and duct taped its mouth. some here and elsewhere defended this stupidity.

i have owned and trained quite a few bird dogs from pups to adults that were ruined by others, and know their tendencies well. with very few exceptions, a dog behaves like its owner. at a young age every one of my dogs would chase anything that looks like prey, especially chickens. it is what they do, if they didn't i would be more concerned. it is up to the owner or handler to break them from that. some dogs catch on quick, others progress more slowly and take a year or two. it is like kids learning math or athletes learning to play a sport.

30-Apr-24
“She is now damaged goods. Trump should not choose her. The unfortunate truth is that if she is Trumps VP choice.

The Obama/Clinton attack team will be activated and she will be portrayed as evil.”

The "unfortunate truth" is they will do that no matter who trump picks…so he might just as well choose who he wants. look what they’ve done to every person hes ever nominated for any position. i like noem well enough but long before the dog thing came out but i didnt happen to think she would be his best vp pick.

at the end of the day...if trump chose jesus christ himself theyd be attacking him for how many fish he killed.

From: Zbone
30-Apr-24
Ricky The Cabel Guy "if trump chose jesus christ himself theyd be attacking him about how many fish he killed"... Boy, ain't that the truth...

Wirehair - "A really good bird dog doesn’t even bother chickens"... I agree, good bird dogs I hunted over would bring back cripples without even killing them... If they catch one they wouldn't kill it, only retrieve it to the handler... Once seen a great preserve Brittany who had over 10,000 birds shot over him, grab a pheasant out of the air and promptly retrieve it back to the handler fully alive and unhurt...

From: fdp
30-Apr-24
Rut-N-Strut I don't claim to be anything. I come here so folks can explain to me what I am. :)

From: Pat Lefemine
30-Apr-24
She lacks sound judgment for talking about it. I don’t care that she shot her dog. But it’s obvious to me she wanted to announce it to the entire world to prove that she can make hard choices. She knows full well that would be widely reported. It’s now the narrative.

I’m sure she regrets it now. It’s not something you talk about. Dumb. And this is from someone who admires her.

From: Groundhunter
30-Apr-24
Nationally she is done. Not the sharpest tack in the box.

From: Murph
30-Apr-24
I love everything about it, with South Dakota being a neighboring state I’m jealous of the way it’s ran she don’t give a f@&$ what people think of her or if she wins a popularity contest, the way she handled sodak during Covid her pushback toward the corrupt leaders of the tribal lands if you don’t like Kristy Noem you don’t like America and freedom she truly has red blood running through her veins

From: Vonfoust
30-Apr-24
I can like her and also think this was an incredibly bad decision to put this out there. You have to get elected to do any good. To get elected you need people to vote for you. This does not play well in many places where she will need votes to win a national election and there are more votes in those areas than in areas that this is accepted. How could she not know this when a simpleton like me does?

From: Stix
30-Apr-24
Life on a ranch. Her only mistake was writting about it.

Rural living is totally different than the urban and suburban lifestyle. Get over it.

From: be still
30-Apr-24
Agree with Pat….shouldn’t been talked about. People have to do what they think needs to be done on the farm when they have neighbors but it does put to question with her being a politician on how much time she spent with the dog.

Most dogs can be trained. Remember when I was a kid our dog got in the bird pen and killed every bird in there. My dad if I remember right wore that dog out but didn’t kill him…I reckon he loved the dog more than the birds.

Had a friend tell me a long time ago how their dog killed some of their chickens. Said his dad grabbed up one of them dead chickens and went to beating the dog with it pretty good. Said the dog never bothered another chicken after that.

Now if this dog was real aggressive with people and couldn’t be trained it would make things different. Seems like she should’ve taken care of the dog before this chicken accident though if that was the case.

From: Glunt@work
30-Apr-24
Was her dogs name "Commander"?

From: scentman
30-Apr-24
Any person that looks down a barrel and sights in a gun to kill a domestic pet unless it's jaws are on some person is a piece of shit. scentman

From: PushCoArcher
30-Apr-24
Better a piece of shit then a giant pussy!

From: scentman
30-Apr-24
"It's lonely at the top" squidman;0)

From: LBshooter
30-Apr-24
I once hunted with a old timer who said what’s the point of having a dog if it’s not doing what it’s suppose to. He had no problem getting rid of a dog if it did t hunt. To him a dog was a tool, and if it didn’t perform then it was done. Today society and pet smart have done a excellent job in mKi g the family dog more the a dog. It’s a member of the family. A friend spent 13 k on his lab to have both back legs operated in for the tendon issue that occurs in labs. He got the dog for free from a backyard liter and the first year the dog blew out both legs . Old time farmers I knew felt the same way about their dogs , they were there to perform a job , if they didn’t they weren’t around long.

From: Zbone
30-Apr-24
If the dog was aggressive and bit somebody, am curious what breed of pheasant dog? Am assuming a pointing breed, flusher or retriever but none of those breeds are aggressive... I've owned all three and hounds, even a Plott hound bred for bear hunting and none of them would bite a person, but a guy gave me his high dollar adult Griffon Pointer that he couldn't control (he was already ruined) and I had him a year or so but that dog was bat shIt crazy and I couldn't control him either but didn't have the heart to shoot him, so I gave him away... Now had any of them bit somebody, especially a child wouldn't have a problem shooting one, but there is nothing harder than having to put down a dog... I can see her reason for doing so, but she's gotta be a hard lady for pulling the trigger and not having a vet do it, but yeah like you guys, making it public was not a wise decision... She's marked for life now as a puppy killer that she'll never be able to loose, the memes will soon begin...

From: Aspen Ghost
30-Apr-24
Scentman, killing an animal is killing an animal. You can't pretend you are more holy by killing a dog some other way. It's still killing the animal and over a million dogs are put down every year in this country by so called "dog lovers" without any controversy. If you seriously believe killing one with a bullet is not humane then you should never shoot any animal. And a bullet to the brain is no less humane than what is used to dispatch millions of animals in every butchering facility in this country. You have fallen victim to Disneyland thinking.

From: Zbone
30-Apr-24
"If you seriously believe killing one with a bullet is not humane then you should never shoot any animal. And a bullet to the brain is no less humane than what is used to dispatch millions of animals in every butchering facility in this country"

Please just don't use a .25 ACP, the most useless piece of steel there ever was... Buddy had to put down a coonhound dying of heart worms and shot it with a .25 auto atop the head at point plank and didn't kill it, had to run to the house to get a bigger gun... Said it was terrible...

From: BOHNTR
30-Apr-24
Sounds like the dog needed to be put down.

From: Stix
30-Apr-24
"Any person that looks down a barrel and sights in a gun to kill a domestic pet unless it's jaws are on some person is a piece of shit."

Spoken from the comfort of suburbia where life is grand.

30-Apr-24
"Spoken from the comfort of suburbia where life is grand."

...and dogs are more precious than human beings.

From: bigswivle
30-Apr-24
I have put down a bunch of dogs, can’t do it anymore, her mistake was talking about it. That’s stuff that stays off the internet so Karen’s like scentman don’t get there feelings hurt.

From: Glunt@work
30-Apr-24
Didn't anyone watch Old Yeller? Oddly, a Disney movie.

From: Recurve Man
30-Apr-24
Once again we prove on this site what wrong with our country. Even so called hunters/country people can’t even take the facts. The internet and news has ruined a lot of wars.

A dog has no soul. If it’s ignorant get rid of it. Women get rid of children because it’s a hindrance. Dogs are easily replaceable. Every city has a ton you can adopt for less than a hundred bucks. It’ll cost to 50k on up to adopt a child.

Shane

From: 4nolz@work
30-Apr-24
"I have seen people in NYC step over a fellow human being lying in his own filth to spit on someone wearing a fur coat" -Dennis Miller

From: peter.p
30-Apr-24
I saw on the news where hunter Biden shot his load with some hookers from both china and Ukraine. Dumbass evidently had it on his laptop too??

From: peter.p
30-Apr-24
Well said recurve man

30-Apr-24
I think it was ok to do it but shouldn’t be talked about. On another note, anyone that is for abortion shouldn’t say a word about someone killing a dog and the vast majority of the people complaining about this are fine with killing little baby’s, sometimes right up to birth

30-Apr-24
"That’s stuff that stays off the internet so Karen’s like scentman don’t get there feelings hurt."

i think youre making a mistake if you think people like scentman have hurt feelings over something like this. they see it as nothing more than a cudgel used to eliminate a political foe.

if it was someone on thier side that did the exact same thing...theyd be defending them to the hilt.

30-Apr-24
"’It is reported...’ ...is usually all that is necessary in order to immediately question the the validity of everything that follows.”

That’s what they’re saying… people are saying. Lots of people. Really the most people EVER, actually…..

SMH….

“I live in a state that is proposing abortion up to and including birth-even for healthy mothers and healthy unborn…”

1) That’s no less reasonable than the bans which are being proposed/passed in other states.

2) Just because it’s Legal doesn’t mean you can find someone willing to do it. And the Hippocratic Oath means more to a good physician than the letter of the law.

From: bigeasygator
30-Apr-24

bigeasygator's Link
Pat x2.

You know it's bad when even the NY Post is reporting that she has "no shot" for VP now.

From: BowenAero
30-Apr-24
She forgot the third rule in the Three S System. Shoot, Shovel and Shut -Up

From: CaptMike
30-Apr-24
"It is reported Kristi shot her pet dog for killing a chicken, I have seen her on TV commercials and thought she is bat shit crazy... guess I was right. scentman"

What is bat shit crazy is that someone like scenter pretends to know anything about a person he has never met.

From: shade mt
30-Apr-24
I figure "bat shit crazy".....are folks that put animals on the same level as people.

I'm curious, is it ok to kill a coyote or fox? Now don't get me wrong i like dogs, we have pets etc... but dogs, cats chickens, cows, goats etc., etc, etc....are nothing more than domesticated animals...period

wish people would get this upset about killing babies.....We have a little grandson, gonna be a yr old in june, man he's something....The very thought of...... ...i can't even type it.

sure has turned into a evil world.

From: Brotsky
30-Apr-24
I really wanted her to be the VP pick to get her out of SD. Amazing how everyone that wants her as governor lives outside of the state she actually governs. I don’t care about the dog thing so much as the rampant nepotism, favoritism, corruption, blatant disregard for the wishes of her constituency, and other indiscretions that have made her distasteful to many who ACTUALLY voted for her.

From: scentman
30-Apr-24
Brot, I was waiting for your insight on this thread... you told it as I thought you would, I'm awaiting Paul's assessment because you two fellas have my utmost respect. scentman

From: buckhammer
30-Apr-24
RonP's and Pat"s posts from today nailed it.

From: Groundhunter
30-Apr-24
Brotsky The woman is a Republiban Kamala, not too sharp

From: Mike in CT
30-Apr-24
This reminds me of the expression "Is this the hill you want to die on."

I don't think (especially given today's climate) that keeping this quiet would have been the smart choice; that's not even debatable.

That being said, it's one thing to bemoan the PC, "woke" culture that has many second-guessing what they say or to whom they say what and remain passive about taking it on, and in particular, taking it head on.

At some point when insanity reigns we as individuals can either roll over and "go with it" "Just take it" or whatever catchphrase one wishes to apply to allowing this nonsense to continue one nanosecond longer than it deserves.

At some point it will take several individuals deciding that enough is enough and saying what isn't PC or runs counter to "woke"; in essence, putting the shoe the other foot and saying, "this is normal, YOU deal with it because I'm not scratching your "I need something to be offended about" itch any longer!"

What Kristi Noem did and described is normal; to any rational human being it's exactly what you do with a dangerous animal; you put them down-humanely but you PUT THEM DOWN.

Now the trick is if you've chosen this to be your hill you don't waver and you definitely, absolutely do not walk it back. You've drawn a line in the sand, make sure it wasn't drawn with an Etch-a-sketch.....

30-Apr-24
"The woman is a Republiban Kamala, not too sharp."

She is way, way hotter than Kamala.

From: t-roy
30-Apr-24
AND a lot sharper.

From: Zbone
30-Apr-24
"the rampant nepotism, favoritism, corruption, blatant disregard for the wishes of her constituency"

Can you elaborate those indelicacies especially the corruption...

From: Brotsky
30-Apr-24
Z, you get much South Dakota local news in Ohio or just the Fox stuff?

From: Zbone
30-Apr-24
Just the Fox stuff...8^)

I didn't think there were any lefties in South Dakota...8^)

From: Barkeater
30-Apr-24
I wish are governor, had traditional grit like Governor Noem.

From: Catscratch
30-Apr-24

Catscratch's embedded Photo
Catscratch's embedded Photo
On a scale of 1 to 10... how much do you like dogs?

From: Zbone
30-Apr-24
Brotsky, what do you have to back it up??? If you have nothing, it's slander, fitting for lefties and their fake news...

From: Zbone
30-Apr-24
I just read bigeasygator link and learned the dog was a Wirehair pointer, very much like the crazy Griffon pointer I had... I'd never own another...

From: shade mt
01-May-24
don't even know why stuff like this even makes the news? Most people would just shrug it off and say.......guess she didn't want her dog killing the chickens, or an aggressive dog around.

So why is a dog, more important than a chicken anyway? ok to kill chickens right? yea dogs make better pets.....still just an animal though still rolls in dead stuff, and licks his butt.....Then licks some people face if they let him.

was a time a dog might have gotten put down just for being an egg sucker.

This is a people thing.....a peculiar people thing.

From: RonP
01-May-24
Mike in CT, that's quite the word salad. "I don't think (especially given today's climate) that keeping this quiet would have been the smart choice; that's not even debatable."

LOL.

"don't even know why stuff like this even makes the news? Most people would just shrug it off and say.......guess she didn't want her dog killing the chickens, or an aggressive dog around."

Shade, you know exactly why it makes the news and most people wouldn't shrug it off. about 80 million of your countrymen do not support trump or the republicans.

From: DanaC
01-May-24
1 - she shot a dog that she thought was dangerous to her and possibly her family. OK, fine with that

2 - she owned the dog for over a year and it was poorly trained. Who owns that?

3 - (more generally) - I see a lot of hunting dogs over the course of the season, some are well trained and some are not. Dogs are individuals and some need more discipline than others. And a few seem untrainable. She may just not have gotten lucky on the draw.

4 - not sure where she was careerwise 20 years ago when this happened. As a politician, was she too busy to spend the time properly training the dog?

5 - writing about it now, as others have pointed out, may have been an attempt to show that she can “take care of business”. But as a political tactic? One tagline I read this morning said it very well - “She may have forgotten that Americans love dogs more than they love politicians.”

01-May-24
"don't even know why stuff like this even makes the news?"

surely thats a rhetorical question. we all know why it makes the news. its the politics of personal destruction...the liberal tactic of demonizing the opposition. they will find something...anything...on any republican politician...or anyone a republican nominates...especially if its trump.

does anyone remember what they did to robert bork? clarence thomas? brett kavanaugh? amy comey barrett? mike pence?

hell...they even did it to their current darling mitt romney.

the left (and their surrogates in the media) have proven that they will stop at nothing...especially not the truth...when it comes to taking down the opposition.

mike in ct is correct.

"What Kristi Noem did and described is normal; to any rational human being it's exactly what you do with a dangerous animal; you put them down-humanely but you PUT THEM DOWN.

Now the trick is if you've chosen this to be your hill you don't waver and you definitely, absolutely do not walk it back. You've drawn a line in the sand, make sure it wasn't drawn with an Etch-a-sketch....."

From: DanaC
01-May-24
"if you've chosen this to be your hill... "

Yeah, that will work with a certain percentage of the population, namely those who prefer their politicians to be tone deaf.

From: Glunker
01-May-24
Scentman is wasting everyones time and energy. He provokes without any meaningful thought. Seems likevit is a personality disorder.

From: TonyBear
01-May-24
Per Newsweek..."It's a sign of laziness to not take proactive measures to fix the problem, like rehoming the dog to a more appropriate place, getting the dog better training, or, in the case of a truly vicious animal, having it humanely euthanized."

The person who wrote this is a moron and doesn't understand the least bit how guns work, its a very rapid death, especially at close range. If you know dogs you can spot one that needs to be put down very easily and it's not laziness to keep them from attacking someone else when they are "rehomed."

From: RonP
01-May-24
i have spent a lifetime around bird dogs and currently run three. one was rehomed by its owner at the age of 6 to me. he is now 10 and still a handful, but i would not give him up. he is in hunt mode 100 percent of the time and his gas pedal is smashed to the floor 100 percent of the time. he is not for everyone.

most issues with dogs, and bird dogs in general, is the inability of the owner to read and recognize what the dog needs particularly in off-season activity, as well as the type of handling and commands required for it to obey. it varies from dog to dog.

think of a basketball team and you're the coach. you have a carl malone, michael jordan, and dennis rodman. they all have potential, but each one needs to be coached and handled differently in order to get the best out of them. dogs require EXACTLY the same approach.

i have/had dogs that are fine staying outside and need little interaction, and others that are in the house (when i am home) and need more attention. dogs are pack animals, and you are part of the pack, and hopefully the alpha.

someone posted they are tools and soulless. while they are working dogs, they are certainly not without a soul. that may be what you want or perceive from your experience, but it is not accurate. anyone that thinks that has never lived with and run multiple bird dogs in remote wild places.

From: scentman
01-May-24
Ron, it's gents like you that keep me on Bowsite. I've been calleda Karen, suburbanite, personality disorder... if you can accept me for all my flaws we can share a campfire and some cheap beer... Timex bring the Keystone brother;0)

From: Beav
01-May-24
Brotsky I respect the hell out of you, but what all has she done bad? Both my siblings live in South Dakota and they love her leadership. She won in the last election by a much wider margin than in 2018 so she has to be doing something right in voters eyes.

01-May-24
I wonder how many of those that think what noem did was out of line would be ok with her (or anyone else) killing their baby.

after all…wouldn’t the humane thing be to just “rehome” it? after all…surely there is someone out there that would appreciate the opportunity to train it up properly.

From: Beav
01-May-24
Killing a dog that bites and comparing it to a baby? Wow! Now I know why I usually stay out of these political threads.

From: Vonfoust
01-May-24
To be fair scentman, you've got a person shooting a gun at a dog while the dogs jaws are clamped to my leg, or worse.

From: LBshooter
01-May-24
The pro-choice crowd shouldn’t have a problem with her, should they?

From: 70lbDraw
01-May-24
“Killing a dog that bites and comparing it to a baby? Wow! Now I know why I usually stay out of these political threads.”

I think he’s pointing out the fact that it’s easier and less humiliating in today’s society to have an abortion, than it is to kill a puppy. I have a feeling you already knew that though.

By the way; good job on staying away from the political threads!

01-May-24
"Killing a dog that bites and comparing it to a baby?"

that was the whole point...there is no comparison. its ridiculous to put the value of an aggressive dog over the value of an innocent human being. yet some do...

01-May-24
"I think he’s pointing out the fact that it’s easier and less humiliating in today’s society to have an abortion, than it is to kill a puppy. I have a feeling you already knew that though."

of course they know that...but its easer to shift the focus to someone else than to look inward. its pretty hard to reconcile being ok with someone killing an innocent baby and at the same time being outraged with someone killing an aggressive dog.

From: Beav
01-May-24
I gotcha now. It is crazy we live in a time where people would actually consider those equals.

01-May-24
" I gotcha now. It is crazy we live in a time where people would actually consider those equals."

i agree...but sadly its even worse than that. some people think the agressive dog is actually more valuable than the innocent baby. "equals" would actually be a step up for them.

From: Jim Moore
01-May-24
Bought a dog about 14 or 15 years ago. Un-papered female cocker spaniel. She was fine as a pup, but started getting aggressive. Overly protective of my wife. We bred her thinking she would calm down but she didn't. Killed two of her pups and damaged another. We had to put a muzzle on her. Nipped my son and hated little kids. Gave the dog to a couple with no live-in kids, but there were grandkids. Nipped those. He brought her back. She snapped at me a couple of times and broke the skin on my son.

Grabbed the dog, took her out, parked a .22 in her brain pan. Didn't lose a wink of sleep over it. Of course, I too was raised in the country and that's just what you did. Do I care if that hurts someones feelings...nope.

01-May-24
better not run for office as a republican jim.

if you do... that post will come back to haunt you in ways you never imagined.

:)

From: Thornton
01-May-24

Thornton's embedded Photo
Thornton's embedded Photo
Couple things stand out with this woman:

Lack of self control, lack of patience, quick to emotional outburst, power hungry, and too stupid to even train a pup. She shot herself in the foot on this one.

From: scentman
01-May-24
Jason, for what it's worth I have found a respect for you... you speak your mind knowing the consequences here. scentman

01-May-24
"Couple things stand out with this woman: Lack of self control, lack of patience, quick to emotional outburst, power hungry, and too stupid to even train a pup."

I have never seen a woman with that combination of attributes.

From: Jim Moore
01-May-24
Yeah Ricky, I lack the ability to make promises I can't keep.

To echo others, Noem should have shut up if she wants to stay in politics. Lots of voters out there that place too much value on their fur babies than their own children. Speaks to the society in which we live.

From: spike78
01-May-24
Yeah because I never saw an article that was false by the media.

01-May-24
" Lots of voters out there that place too much value on their fur babies than their own children."

sadly...for a lot of people out there their "fur babies" are their children...and they are treated as such.

From: HDE
01-May-24
I sure hope we have a ticket that allows everyone to vote so they feel better about themselves while looking in the mirror and say "good job skippy"...

Insert eyeroll here.

From: grizzly
01-May-24
"Don't jerk and drive " campaign "Meth, were on it" campaign Stacking the GFP with Outfitters, guides and those whose interest is more in the commercial hunting operations than that of the North American Wildlife model of management. NR's should love this though. A nice lady. Neither choice is acceptable right now.

02-May-24
"I sure hope we have a ticket that allows everyone to vote so they feel better about themselves while looking in the mirror and say "good job skippy"..."

this will be the 12th presidential election ive voted in and ive never seen or voted for a ticket that i was 100% happy with...and i doubt i ever will.

even so...the man in the mirror looked just fine to me after every one.

02-May-24
""Don't jerk and drive " campaign "Meth, were on it" campaign Stacking the GFP with Outfitters, guides and those whose interest is more in the commercial hunting operations than that of the North American Wildlife model of management. NR's should love this though. A nice lady. Neither choice is acceptable right now."

lets assume trump picks noem as his running mate. im not convinced he was ever going to...but lets just go with it.

with all their flaws...do you think a trump/noem ticket would be more or less likely to fight meth coming across the border and or protect your hunting rights than a biden/harris ticket?

at the end of the day...thats the only thing that matters.

From: olddogrib
02-May-24
The Bowsite needs its own monthly Swap thread like the LW. Brotsky, I will trade you Roy Cooper for her and throw in a dog that will hunt! Will consider tossing in the wife's cat if you drive a hard bargain!

From: DanaC
02-May-24
I'll trade you the governor of Massachusetts along with our attorney general, the mayor of Boston, and our entire congressional delegation. I can toss in a growler of craft beer and a few lobsters...

02-May-24
is this a bidding war?

ill give you governor whitmer...ag nessell...sos benson...sen stabinow...sen peters...rashida tlaib...debbie dingel...and every other democrat in congress for kristi noem.

heck...i'll even throw in michael moore...10 pounds of morel musrooms and a lug of michigan sweet cherries.

From: DanaC
02-May-24
hmmm, guess I'm gonna have to toss in our governor's ex-girlfriend (now a state Supreme Court Justice) and a couple of fluffernutters...

From: Brotsky
02-May-24
Keep your trades boys, we know what we got! It's like a 15 year old Tacoma, everyone's had a ride but it just keeps running!

From: DanaC
02-May-24
I have a 17 year old Tacoma, sitting idle. If I toss it into the deal, will you reconsider? ;-)

From: KsRancher
02-May-24
Dana. Do they have crunchy or creamy peanut butter? HUGE difference!

From: olddogrib
02-May-24
Y'all are tough, I had first dibs! I have a '99 Tacoma w/265K miles still going strong that I'll throw in if I can withdraw the cat and run over it on the way to deliver. I'll make it look like an accident or the work of Clinton Inc., to avoid offending the "perpetually triggered" and getting tarred and feathered on posts like this one.

From: DanaC
02-May-24
Sorry honey, the cat hung himself.

From: KSflatlander
02-May-24
I'm with Thornton on this one. Killing a dog is so senseless.

02-May-24
"Killing a dog is so senseless."

that statement is actually pretty senseless. I can think of a number of reasons why killing a dog is not only sensible but necessary.

just curious...do you think killing a baby is "senseless" or is that just reserved for dogs?

From: KSflatlander
02-May-24
I think killing a baby is more than senseless.

02-May-24
“I think killing a baby is more than senseless.”

on that we can agree. im glad to hear youre pro life.

From: KSflatlander
02-May-24
Find some different bait Ricky.

03-May-24

Ricky The Cabel Guy's embedded Photo
Ricky The Cabel Guy's embedded Photo

Ricky The Cabel Guy's Link
as is often the case...seems to be more to the story than is "being reported" (video at link).

From: bigeasygator
03-May-24
…or she’s changing her story because of the backlash she’s received and the damage she’s done to her political career. If there’s “more to the story,” she should have been more clear in what she wrote. This is entirely a self-inflicted wound.

03-May-24
no doubt that its self inflicted...but we dont really know what she wrote yet...at least in full and in context. the book has not been released yet. if shes lying about the dog coming to her after already being aggressive with another family...that will come out too.

to my knowledge...all that has been "reported" is the usual out of context snippets...used to paint a particular picture...by the usual suspects. i never believe someones "report" of what someone said...whether that report is coming from the right or the left. i want to hear...or read...what the person actually said...in their own words.

even if it comes out that she had very valid reasons to do what she did...all most people are going to remember are the headlines that read kristi noem "executed" or "murdered" a "puppy."

From: CaptMike
03-May-24
Simple people believe only what they want to hear.

From: HunterR
03-May-24
A lot of things don't need to be discussed, like it or not she did herself no favors by broadcasting this to the world. Whether the dog needed to be killed or not, a whole lot of people feel that in this day and age (we are not in a depression) forking out a few bucks to have a veterinarian perform a euthanasia would have been a much better option. Of course, maybe she had other priorities and was short on money.

From: Catscratch
03-May-24
Is that the problem; that it wasn't euthanized by a vet? I'm sorry but dangerous animals are dangerous animals, and dead is dead.

03-May-24
HunterR...

i agree with what you said however i think it also needs to be taken into consideration how a person is raised and what they do for a living. farmers in general have a completely different take on animals and how to handle situations where one needs to be put down.

the way a farmer would handle something like this is often completely foreign to someone who hasnt been raised in that culture. just like a farmer might think carrying a dog around in a handbag and treating it like a child...or taking it to a restaurant for emotional support would be bat chit crazy.

a lady my wife used to work with recently spent over $1000 to have eye surgery on her guinea pig. i have no doubt a woman like that would think what noem did was evil and diabolical...just as noem would think what she did is absolutely moronic.

03-May-24
"Is that the problem; that it wasn't euthanized by a vet? I'm sorry but dangerous animals are dangerous animals, and dead is dead."

you actually bring up a very interesting point. hunters are the first ones to climb all over the backs of anti hunters for only getting their meat at a grocery store.

how many times havent we heard meat is meat..."at least hunters do their own dirty work" or taking the life of an animal "isnt always pretty." (or other similar things).

now...when it happens to be a politican that trump may or may not be considering as a running mate...doing her own "dirty work" or something that "wasnt pretty"...shes a puppy murdering psychopath.

From: DanaC
03-May-24
Ricky, the puppy-huggers would paint her as "a puppy murdering psychopath" regardless of her potential position re.Trump. They are their own special crowd...

re Catscratch- "Is that the problem; that it wasn't euthanized by a vet? " No, the problem is that she *wrote about it.* Whatever points she scored with the TCB crowd are more than offset by the points she lost with the puppy huggers.

From: midwest
03-May-24
I bet it sells books.

From: Catscratch
03-May-24
I agree that she should not have written about it, very stupid move in my opinion for her position in life! The truth is that around 1.5 million pets are put down every year. HunterR brought up euthanizing and that kind of brought it light that the vast majority of American have been responsible for the death of a pet type animal, or neglected it enough that it ended up in a shelter that put it down. As said before; dead is dead.

03-May-24
just a thought.

what makes anyone think think that based on the fact the act was witnessed...she was just getting out in front of something that eventually would come out anyway. not much stays hidden these days...especially if you are a republican rumored to be under consideration for the orange mans vp.

she might not be a dumb as some of you might think.

From: JohnMC
03-May-24
If Ricky is ever not on bowsite anymore, I am going to get a broken record

03-May-24
"If Ricky is ever not on bowsite anymore, I am going to get a broken record"

not to worry...i took up residence in your head long ago. lol

From: JohnMC
03-May-24
Ricky you're bowsite's biggest loser. You throw up all over every non bowhunting thread because you have zero value to threads related to bowhunting.

From: DanaC
03-May-24

DanaC's Link
" Kristi Noem’s VP chances appear as dead as the dog she killed. There are other reasons too.

Noem had long ago been all but cast aside as a likely running mate, according to six people close to Donald Trump."

Kristi Noem’s damage-control tour is in full swing. It appears destined for the same fate as her late dog Cricket: dead in a gravel pit somewhere near Pierre.

But at Mar-a-Lago, even before the revelation about her dog, Noem had long ago been cast aside as a likely running mate, according to six people close to former President Donald Trump who, while not discounting Noem entirely, have for many weeks said she has almost no chance of being on the ticket. The Cricket saga was just the latest in one of the most spectacularly botched vice presidential contender rollouts in modern political history.

On Wednesday, days ahead of the release of her political memoir originally designed to boost her veepstakes campaign, Noem took to Sean Hannity to try to reset the disastrous political narrative surrounding her: that penning the anecdote about shooting her dog as an example of her ability to make difficult decisions had destroyed her vice presidential ambitions.

Noem will return to Trump’s turf in Palm Beach, Florida this weekend, addressing top-dollar donors with other prospective running mates at a luxury hotel. Two advisers to Noem, granted anonymity to speak freely, said they expect a Sunday show appearance on CBS’s “Face the Nation” and additional excerpts from the book to also make news.

But it almost certainly won’t be enough to turn the tide of public opinion or, more importantly for Noem, the view of her inside Mar-a-Lago.

“She is of no use,” said Scott Jennings, a former President George W. Bush political adviser, comparing Noem to other running mate contenders, including North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum, Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), Sens. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) who would “have utility” on the Trump ticket.

“What does she bring?” Jennings said of Noem. “The possibility of weirdo drama. That’s it. She appeals to no constituency Trump doesn’t already have.”

For several years, Noem had appeared ascendant in Republican politics. She became one of the most vocal governors against Covid regulations, was a regular on the conservative television and conference circuit, hosted Trump for a 2020 Independence Day celebration and then gave him a miniature bust of Mount Rushmore with his face included.

But then came reports in conservative media of allegations that Noem was having an extramarital affair with former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski. Noem denied it, saying at the time that “these rumors are total garbage and a disgusting lie.” Yet despite Noem being invited to meet with Trump at Mar-a-Lago as recently as February, and campaigning for him in Iowa earlier this year, inside Trump’s orbit, the rumors stuck.

Not only have Trump aides been concerned about the reports, Trump himself expressed qualms about them, too. While entertaining visitors at Mar-a-Lago earlier this year, Trump made a joke about Noem’s “baggage,” according to a person with knowledge of the remarks and granted anonymity to speak freely.

In recent weeks — and in rapid succession — everything else came to knock down the negligible chances Noem had of getting tapped as running mate.

She was widely mocked after filming a bizarre infomercial-style video advertising for a Texas cosmetic dentistry that she said had given her a new “smile,” a promotion that raised ethics questions and led to a lawsuit against her.

Noem released new television advertisements featuring herself, spending millions of state dollars to dress up as a construction worker and state trooper — after filming previous spots pretending to be a plumber, dentist, electrician and welder — in an apparent bid to draw new residents to South Dakota.

Last weekend, Noem appeared on CNN, coming under fire after refusing to say whether abortion exceptions for rape and incest should be permitted, instead replying that she doesn’t “believe a tragedy should perpetuate another tragedy.” In South Dakota, all abortions are outlawed except to save a woman’s life.

“Are suburban women going to come and flock to Donald Trump? Probably not,” said David Urban, a former senior Trump campaign adviser. “Does Kristi Noem help that fact? Western governor, kind of a tough cowgirl, tough image. Not sure she’s the one that brings suburban women to the ballot box.”

After the anecdote about 14-month-old Cricket came out, Noem’s advisers confessed they were taken aback that it garnered such intense backlash.

“I didn’t think that was going to be the headline,” a person close to Noem who had read the book told POLITICO. The person was granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on her behalf.

But news of Noem’s execution and disposal of her dog has continued to play out for more than a week, with Noem making multiple comments defending her decision, including saying on Wednesday that the dog was “not a puppy,” but a threat to her family.

“I think Gov. Noem’s efforts have been sophomoric,” said former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Trump ally. “Running ads may have seemed clever, but to someone as sophisticated as Trump, her strategies have been a bit too obvious.”

“Killing the dog and then writing about it,” Gingrich added, “ended any possibility of her being picked as VP.”

Noem is set to appear at the Trump and Republican National Committee donor retreat taking place this weekend in Palm Beach, where Trump will also give remarks, joined by more than a dozen other “special guests.”

Noem is scheduled to speak on Saturday morning in a “breakfast conversation” with Burgum that will be moderated by RNC Chair Michael Whatley, according to a copy of the agenda.

A number of other Republicans seen as Trump running mate contenders, including Rubio, Vance and Scott, are also expected to appear. The event is expected to draw around 400 major donors, according to a person familiar with the planning.

But damage already done may prove irreversible.

Conservative commentator Erick Erickson, who on his show this week railed about Noem being a “psychopath,” told POLITICO that sharing the dog anecdote showed “poor judgment on her part.”

“If she did that to impress Trump, she forgot he’s hurting himself in the suburbs where they tend not to murder dogs,” Erickson said.

But even before the Cricket fiasco, Noem “had too much baggage,” Erickson said — though he speculated that, if picked for the ticket, it would have been “shrugged off” by conservatives.

Sen. Kevin Cramer, a Republican from the nearby state of North Dakota, described the likelihood of Noem getting on the ticket like this: “It’s hard to imagine a universe where bragging about shooting your 14-month-old puppy increases your brand value.”

The MAGA movement, said Steve Bannon, a former top Trump adviser, “is looking for a perfect compliment to President Trump,” which includes “someone who can help him win and help him govern.”

“But shooting an innocent puppy,” he said, “may be a tad too ‘based’ for many.”

From: nchunter
03-May-24
Its the part in the book about meeting the north korean leader and she is now retracting it that will sink her.

From: KSflatlander
03-May-24
"Ricky you're bowsite's biggest loser. You throw up all over every non bowhunting thread because you have zero value to threads related to bowhunting."

Thanks Ricky LMAO

You're #1...You're #1...You're #1

I'm so glad you are here lol

John- you thought I was bad. Great wildlife pics.

From: johndoe
03-May-24
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03-May-24

Ricky The Cabel Guy's embedded Photo
Ricky The Cabel Guy's embedded Photo
Saw this on my way to the boat tonight…reminded of this thread.

I guess it would be funny…if it wasnt so accurate.

From: shade mt
04-May-24
Its purely political....far as abortion you got pro choice on both sides.

It would be interesting to actually see the percentages but i have a hunch conservative vs liberal?......you'd see a whole lot more puppy huggers and baby killers, on the blue side.

As a contractor i deal with people constantly, and without a doubt most of the flakes i encounter are not camo ball cap wearing everyday rural Americans....Vast majority are college yuppie, suburbia type. There are exceptions without a doubt, but for sure i run into "strange"......way, WAY more from people who would vote blue.

Kinda like the guy from SE PA.....suburbia who loads his escalade heads for the mts of northern PA....and stands in pine creek fly fishing with a mask on. The guy is well educated, cordial but ya notice he kind of keeps his distance as you stand there chatting.

On the surface he seems ok, but beneath that fedora and sage fly rod.....there lurks a lack of sound morals. He spews out protest over shooting a dog, yet thinks nothing of killing babies. He votes blue praises trangender as "diversity"...He is blinded by the smooth talking liberal democrats he supports, blind to the fact that he has drifted so far left he no longer discerns properly.

And this?........just another chance to promote the cause, to dumb to realize he in fact is his own worst enemy and that the "left" will take him farther than he ever wanted to go, and cost him more than he ever wanted to pay.

From: buckhammer
04-May-24
This thread may have a longer life span than the dog she killed.

04-May-24
"......you'd see a whole lot more puppy huggers and baby killers, on the blue side."

i agree...and that is the part of the story i find most interesting. noem did what she did... and said what she said ...and it may or may not affect her political future. big deal...happens every day.

what i find interesting (although not surprising) is the rank hypocrisy and or degeneracy of those the left. they will march in the streets literally celebrating how many babies they have killed...yet their heads explode over the thought of a woman that put down an aggressive dog.

From: olddogrib
04-May-24
My entire life from a very early age I can remember the hearing the phrase "put it out of its misery" when someone was told to deliver the "coup de gras" to animals, wild or domestic, that had been hit by vehicles, suffered poor shots while hunted, etc. where there was no hope of recovery. It occurs to me that it's a good thing that rule doesn't generally apply to humans because after 4 years of Joe Biden there would be nobody left in this country!

From: KSflatlander
04-May-24
Nice stories Shade but are those stories supposed to mean something? Who cares about your life experiences. They aren't my experiences nor are they of the other 8 billion people on the planet. It's called perspective and it's relative. Get over yourself.

From: Recurve Man
04-May-24
I enjoy the story Shade. I also for the public also and have anti Biden stickers on my truck. No of the idiots I work for who I can tell are left wing nut jobs even say a word. They don’t have the balls.

05-May-24
shade mt…

when it comes to the things you mentioned (views on abortion/animal rights…masking…trans issues…etc) your anecdotal observations tend to match empirical data.

That’s not to say the right doesn’t have its share of “flakes” but in terms of the things you mentioned…you are absolutely correct.

now…if you want to talk about conspiracy theory…chem trail…and covid vaccine flakes…those are predominantly on the right.

:)

05-May-24
Covid vaccine flakes. :>))))

Like when Biden and Harris said they would never take the “Trump” vaccine.

From: DanaC
05-May-24

DanaC's embedded Photo
DanaC's embedded Photo

05-May-24
"Like when Biden and Harris said they would never take the “Trump” vaccine."

not really.

the only reason they were speaking out against the covid vaccine is because trump was talking positively about it. they werent ever really opposed to the vaccine...they were opposed to trump...and for a while he was the face of the vaccine.

i was referring to the "flakes" that think the covid vaccine contains micro tracking chips...was designed to depopulate the earth...made a person magnetic...would rewrite your dna...and was causing trained athletes to drop over dead all over the world. they actually believe that crap.

From: RK
05-May-24

From: CaptMike
05-May-24
Shade, your observations echo what many people see. Being told “it is only your perspective” is liberal blather for “I will not accept reality.” It is this unthinking, unwillingness of the left, to accept the perspectives of others that truly highlights their hypocrisy .

05-May-24
“ It is this unthinking, unwillingness of the left, to accept the perspectives of others that truly highlights their hypocrisy .”

not to mention the condescension and elitism shown toward anyone who dare disagree with them.

They know better…just ask them.

From: KSflatlander
05-May-24
CaptMike- you must live in bizarro world because it's only the right wing nuts here that are unable to accept reality (stolen election). Hmmm...

Your anecdotes are not other people's reality.

From: Jaquomo
05-May-24
Noem took personal responsibility and made a hard choice. Something those on the Left can't comprehend. A liberal would have taken the chicken-killing, aggressive dog to a vet to have it euthanized, would maybe have cried a little, and put the ashes in an urn on the mantle. Out of sight, out of mind.

From: KSflatlander
05-May-24
"Noem took personal responsibility and made a hard choice. Something those on the Left can't comprehend. A liberal would have taken the chicken-killing, aggressive dog to a vet to have it euthanized, would maybe have cried a little, and put the ashes in an urn on the mantle. Out of sight, out of mind."

I put my 13 year old dog down less than a year ago. His ashes are on the mantle. I didn't shoot him in the head to save money. He was one of the family. I grew up rural but was raised to take care and love pets.

I'll just say, if you shot your dog out of convenience then you aren't welcome in my camp. Senseless. It doesn't make you tougher Lou.

From: DConcrete
05-May-24
Serious question. If you need to put a dog down, how is it any different if you have a vet do it versus you shooting them in the head?

A bullet is a lot quicker than meds.

From: Bou'bound
05-May-24
Just because something is really hard to do. Doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

We’ve got a lot of problems in this country with politicians these days and how they take care of their pets do the situations that only they can understand and judge based on the facts is the least of my concerns

From: Jaquomo
05-May-24
Kristi Noem would be welcome in my camp. Only a bleeding heart liberal would be concerned about how she quickly and humanely dispatched a problem animal. And they are not welcome in my camp.

It's really amusing that people who deliberately stick arrows into animals in random parts of their bodies, have issues with what she did. More cognitive dissonance.

From: KSflatlander
05-May-24
"Serious question. If you need to put a dog down, how is it any different if you have a vet do it versus you shooting them in the head? A bullet is a lot quicker than meds."

Because it was done in the living room with the whole family. I know it was painless and he quietly fell asleep peacefully within seconds. RIP.

I don't think a bullet is faster and definitely not better. If you believe what you say then be sure to put yourself down. I mean what's it matter.

From: sundowner
05-May-24
Kristi Noem knows that it is sometimes necessary to put down animals that have problems, or that are causing problems, whatever that may be. Honestly, I have even more respect for her now than before she related this story.

As a trapper, I have shot hundreds of animals, including quite a few wild or stray dogs. It's called property management and predator control. I don't know of any trapper who enjoys that aspect of trapping, but it has to be done.

And putting down problem farm animals has to be done too. I say good for Ms. Noem. She's apparently not a typical phony politician.

From: scentman
05-May-24
She is an out and out liar, now she is walking back starring down KimJun Unn for goodness sake... what did the goat do to deserve target practice at a gravel pit? scentman

05-May-24

Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo
Mike Ukrainetz's embedded Photo

From: DConcrete
05-May-24
Well alrighty then. So we’ve gone from, putting them to sleep, with a dollar bill, paying the grim reaper instead of doing yourself….and if you believe in putting a dog down yourself….why don’t you go shoot yourself because what’s it matter?

Not sure what to say to that but…..okay.

From: sundowner
05-May-24
".and if you believe in putting a dog down yourself….why don’t you go shoot yourself because what’s it matter?"

"Not sure what to say to that but…..okay."

I am absolutely sure what to say about that......the man who said or wrote it is a damn fool.

From: Nyati
05-May-24
I’m not surprised she did it. It happens with dog hunters. Just surprised she put it in a book. She needed a better editor. She’s probably ok in SD but if she has national aspirations it may come back to bite her

From: Ron Niziolek
05-May-24
KS, I’d guess 99% of people on this site don’t give a damn what you think. As you eloquently said above, get over yourself.

From: Recurve Man
05-May-24

Recurve Man's embedded Photo
Recurve Man's embedded Photo
KS flat I’ll you may need to see if you can get a prescription as this gentleman did.

05-May-24

Ricky The Cabel Guy's embedded Photo
Ricky The Cabel Guy's embedded Photo
"Because it was done in the living room with the whole family. I know it was painless and he quietly fell asleep peacefully within seconds. RIP."

if only we were that humane with inconvenient children.

05-May-24
When arguing with flatlander remember that this is a guy who thinks a woman can have a beard and a penis! That’s the alternate reality that he lives in, same as bigeasy, I’m not sure if scentman suffers from the same delusions?

From: scentman
05-May-24
Mike, to know me is to love me... I definitely cannot cast stones, but you seem very comfortable at it. scentman

From: 4nolz@work
05-May-24
She walked right into that attack on Face The Nation.I think it was a survival test, if she passes Im thinking Trump is interested.

From: Jaquomo
05-May-24
"and if you believe in sticking an arrow in a deer's guts and then letting it suffer for 8 hours ….why don’t you go shoot yourself because what’s it matter?"

There - I fixed it for you.

From: KsRancher
05-May-24
If we are comparing shooting a dog to shooting a human. Then we had better compare have your family member euthanized. If you have your dog euthanized and ashes on your mantle when the dogs quality of life is getting rough. Then when your wife starts to go down hill just go ahead and have the doctor come over and euthanize her in the living room.

I can't believe this is even an argument. If you want to put a bullet in your dog's head or have him euthanized by a vet, either one is just fine. If you are okay with any kind of abortion but have a problem with someone putting a bullet in dogs head then you have some serious issues. This is coming from a guy that thinks abortion has its place.

From: CaptMike
05-May-24
Yeah KS, you are the only sane one here. ??

From: petedrummond
06-May-24
Two big takeaways here:

1. Do not write your memoir before you get elected.

2. A lot more people like dogs than like candidates.

06-May-24
“If we are comparing shooting a dog to shooting a human. Then we had better compare have your family member euthanized.”

that comparison has already been made and notice how those on the left are avoiding it like the plague?

i wonder how many of those ashes make it to the mantle?

From: DanaC
06-May-24
I wonder how many would choose a 'quick' euthanasia over the drawn out, agonizing process we call 'hospice'.

From: shade mt
06-May-24
We just spent all weekend in a IC waiting room. Its a place where so often family's suffer, and grieve for a dying loved one. We are a large family, close knit, regular people. beards and ball caps are common. Our men are men, our women are women. And are children are taught right and wrong. Another family came in, also a large family. And they like us were normal folks. A woman from that family came over and offered her comfort to my wife, stating "we are all here grieving"...would you be willing for our family's to join together and pray?

Two large, normal everyday familys stood in a large circle, holding hands. men removed their camo ball caps, heads bowed, praying to an almighty GOD.

strangers hugged one another, names exchanged......normal everyday folks.

we may not agree on every issue, but, WE KNOW HOW TO GET ALONG!!........it is the liberal left that started this bizarre mess. Please for the sake of this country take your bizarre ideals and filth, and go back to your closet.

THAT KSflatlander....is the real world......like it or lump it....we are not budging.

From: scentman
06-May-24
Who are you to judge who is" normal" ? Let God be the judge. Do you think God loves you better because you think you are normal? scentman

06-May-24
"It is reported Kristi shot her pet dog for killing a chicken, I have seen her on TV commercials and thought she is bat shit crazy... guess I was right. scentman"

"Who are you to judge who is" normal" ? Let God be the judge. Do you think God loves you better because you think you are normal? scentman"

hard to believe these were posted by the same person...

From: scentman
06-May-24
Politicians are open game Rick all knowing... you remind of a song by Styx, "too much time on my hands" scentman

06-May-24
"...you remind of a song by Styx, "too much time on my hands"

says the guy that actually started this thread.

ironically...you remind me of a styx song also. "fooling yourself."

From: Catscratch
06-May-24

Catscratch's embedded Photo
Catscratch's embedded Photo

From: Catscratch
06-May-24

Catscratch's embedded Photo
Catscratch's embedded Photo

From: scentman
06-May-24
Cat, to quote a great philosopher "squiggy"... "don't I know it"! LOL scentman

From: CaptMike
06-May-24
"Do you think God loves you better because you think you are normal?" If you believe God created us then yes, there is a normal and abnormal. He did not create tens or hundreds of different genders, that was all manufactured by the lunatic left.

From: HunterR
06-May-24
"She is an out and out liar, now she is walking back starring down KimJun Unn for goodness sake... what did the goat do to deserve target practice at a gravel pit? scentman"

I also wondered what the goat did wrong, possibly it was attacking people too and "un-trainable"? Did it kill a chicken? Maybe it was a fainting goat and she was pissed that it kept falling down? Sure the dog wasn't a puppy it was 14 months old, hadn't been a puppy for 2 whole months. Seems to me as if she was on a killing spree, good thing no people pissed her off that day of death. I also read that the goat jumped when she shot and it was wounded and something about she had to go get more ammo to finish it. If that is true, that right there is a reason to fork out a few bucks and have a vet euthanize the animal. Speaking of saving money, was there not a garbage bag close by she could have wrapped around the dogs head? No pond on the property to toss the dog in after putting it in a gunnysack with some rocks? Come on, a real farmer wouldn't have needed a bullet at all. Bottom line I doubt Trump is dumb enough to choose her, and if he is he can expect to get less votes.

From: scentman
06-May-24
Mike, I do agree to some of your point, but each one of us has some flaw and God stated " No not one of you is perfect in my eyes" Not one of us can ever meet God's expectations that's why we are saved by grace, not our own merits. Would you disown your child because they did not meet your requirements or expectations? We could go on and on about politicians and their hunger for power by any means but in reality it's hard to judge one another. scentman

From: RonP
06-May-24
"Bottom line I doubt Trump is dumb enough to choose her,..."

I don't give him that much credit. To a certain extent I think the media is talking about this to goad him. He is easy to goad. Remember, tRump agreed to an interview request with Bob Woodward and by his own admission spoke with him for about 9 hours.

That is dumb to think anything favorable was going to come from talking with Bob Woodward.

From: soccern23ny
06-May-24
If there was ever a way to lose the white woman vote its to go on about how you put a slug in a dogs head... regardless of the context.

From: 4nolz@work
06-May-24
or to not let those white women kill unborn babies but dogs are more important huh

From: soccern23ny
06-May-24
4nolz....

Not sure what your point is?

Yes statistics show the majority of women are okay with killing unborn babies and the majority are against killing puppies

If she wants votes from that demographic best not tout your puppy killing prowess

From: Will tell
06-May-24
I owned a Wired Hair Pointer. Smartest dog I ever owned but you better have the time to let it run and train it. It was a a Ground hog killer and have no doubt it would kill a Chicken or a Cat. If you don’t have time to spend with them than that’s not the dog you want.

From: shade mt
06-May-24
scentman.....ya just don't get it do you? Nobody is judging anybody here. But folks like you and ole ksflatlander make it a point to defend the bizzare. And yes i AM normal and NO God does not think that this bizarre stuff is normal either. Calling something wrong or right is not judging. The liberal left simply jumped on this for political gain.

Animals and people are NOT equal...and as far as all this other strange stuff No it is NOT normal....

Does GOD love all people?...of course.....Is it ok to promote or defend this stuff?...you know better.

We are supposed to try and do the right thing.....not defend the wrong things.

There is a big difference between tolerating that which is wrong, and defending or promoting it.

Frankly the woman should have shot, shoveled and shut up.....broadcasting it just brings out the freaks.

From: HDE
06-May-24
"Yes statistics show the majority of women are okay with killing unborn babies and the majority are against killing puppies"

The very reason women, once, were not allowed to weigh in on anything political...

From: Patdel
06-May-24
I don't have a problem with putting down a mean dog. They do exist. I know some people claim they don't. But I've seen it. Once they start biting people, in my mind, that's it.

That said, writing about it in your book when you are a politician? I don't know how smart that was.

From: scentman
06-May-24
What point did I make to defend bizzare behavior shade? Hate the sin, love the sinner.

Yrs back I had to have my 16 yr. old chocolate put down, Dr. gave the shot while I held Gus as he knew what was happening... my memory of holding Ole fat boy is comforting, could never imagine me drawing a gun on my best buddy, yet some of you think that's weird. scentman

From: shade mt
06-May-24
Honestly i don't think that's weird at all scentman, matter of fact i understand that.

But we are talking about a woman that put down a aggressive dog, now whether or not it was aggressive , or just a mangy no good for nothing chicken killing dog..who knows? who cares? she should have been quiet about it, and it surely is not grounds for political leverage.

The whole big liberal mess accomplishes nothing but getting the people fired up and at each others throats.

remember....You did start this topic right?

And for the record.....if i had an aggressive dog, or one that kept killing the chickens, i'd shoot the rascal also., especially considering the price of eggs, oh boy here we go.......back to the "bidenomics"

Think i'd be better off staining a bow i just finished...... " little secret"....be quiet about it, i'll probably kill stuff with it...AND EAT IT!

From: Boreal
06-May-24
Proof that you shouldn't write about your deeds until you're done doing deeds.

From: 70lbDraw
06-May-24
“Proof that you shouldn't write about your deeds until you're done doing deeds.”

It was 20 years ago. Of course, it’s typical for these people to wait 20, 30, 40 years later when someone runs for office, to accuse them of sexual harassment, rape, or whatever, from their past, so they can plaster it all over the national big screen!

From: Quinn @work
06-May-24
"Another thread turned political? Pretty soon we'll be down to the same 4 guys going back and forth for 200 posts.................and no one will win."

Looks like my post way back when was wrong. Look like we have the post count but still have about 8 guys going at it. Maybe it will be down to the same 4 by post 400? They're all here. LOL!

From: spike78
06-May-24
Net worth of 19 million not bad for a farm girl turned Governor. Nothing at all to see here with all of the politicians. I wish I knew how easy it was to make millions effing everything up.

From: buckhammer
06-May-24
Maybe Biden will call Kristi to come to the White House to shoot his German Shepard that has bitten 24 Secret Service agents.

From: scentman
06-May-24
I can't send a video for some reason. Could one of you techies insert dirty deeds by ac/DC? scentman

From: TonyBear
06-May-24
In the Weekly Review a Liberal news rag Kristy Noem is called the new age of animal cruelty. I guess that's what she gets for choosing her personal safety and the safety of her kids over an animal that had a history of killing chickens and attacking people.

From: scentman
06-May-24
Nice contribution Teddybear... lions, an tigers, oh my, shoot em all. scentman

From: Jaquomo
06-May-24
Scent man, do you even hunt? Even a little?

From: Recurve Man
06-May-24
Anyone has a dog the need shot swing it by, I have no problem sticking a pistol behind their ear.

Last July I had to shoot my 13 year old lab. One hell of a fabulous pet. He was around to watch the kids grow up. One of the hardest dogs I’ve put down. I’m one of those guys who will not pay a vet to do what I can take care of. I raised my kids on how the world works. I taught them everything they needed about life. The Bible!!! That pet was a great part of our life be he sure won’t be in heaven. He had no soul so he couldn’t choose eternity. He sure had feelings and we all had them for him as well. I’m not gonna tell you I didn’t have tears running down my cheeks because I did. What a fantastic dog and so many great memories with him and the kids.

I have a new dog now and she’s a lot of fun as well. Kids are all married or in college so pretty much my wife and my dog now. When she hits the point and needing the bullet she’ll get one to.

Now my feelings are strong on abortion. I’m 100% against it. Thou shall not kill. The Bible will tell you everything you need to know about why you better be 100% against it. I have enough sins I’m gonna have to answer for.

Shane

06-May-24
“Of course, it’s typical for these people to wait 20, 30, 40 years later….”

#1 - NOEM brought it up. Nobody else wrote her book…Nobody else put that in there for her.

#2 - If you don’t know any women who were ever abused by a Drunken Ass, you don’t know many women. And if you think those women would not appreciate an opportunity to object VERY publicly to allowing That Drunken Ass to become POTUS or a member of SCOTUS, then you don’t know spit about women.

And if YOUR wife/daughter/sister/mother/friend were to have been abused and you wouldn’t want her to speak up…. There are no words.

From: Zbone
06-May-24

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From: Thornton
06-May-24
If you're gonna throw around religion, I'll take that fight any day. There's more in the Bible about animals in the afterlife than you have obviously taken the time to research and read..

As for shooting a dog, I've done it, and my dad did it once. My case was a dumped coyote runner greyhound bothering my friend's cats and children on his farm. I've also treated more gunshot wounds in humans than probably anyone else on here. I've also killed more big game animals with a firearm than most of the bowhunting religion fanatics on here. A lot can go wrong shooting a dog. In my dad's case, the old dog just kept looking at him with a bullet through his forehead. My dad was a tough old rancher with a soft heart, and he said he would never do it again. I've also put down a horse that had gotten ill, aspirated, and could no longer get up.

A good vet uses a two step process of medications, and the animal often never feels the euthanasia.

The point is, thus Noem woman basically bragged, stated she "hated that dog" , and exhibibited all the tendencies I mentioned earlier. This was not a case of an old dog, ridden with cancer, that needed put down. It was a case of inconvenience.

From: Recurve Man
06-May-24
Thornton no need to argue the Bible with me because I will not argue. I never said there won’t be animals in heaven. Isaiah does mention animals living with each other. I will tell you that everyone’s Fido won’t be in heaven. That’s the point I’m making.

Shane

From: Jaquomo
07-May-24
He'll be waiting for her to cross that Rainbow Bridge, with teeth bared and fresh chicken feathers around his lips....

From: 70lbDraw
07-May-24
“And if YOUR wife/daughter/sister/mother/friend were to have been abused and you wouldn’t want her to speak up…. There are no words.”

Ohhh, get off your high horse bro! Let’s get one thing straight. You don’t know ‘shit’ about the “spit” I know…regardless of what it pertains to.

With that being said, let’s talk about Christine Blasey Ford. What happened there? Another victim…blah, blah, blah…She was a fraud, a fake, a liberally groomed patsy, with no evidence, witnesses, or credible time lines to support her “claim”. Quit crying “victim” only when it fits your political agenda.

Any woman I care about tells me something isn’t right, and you can be damned sure I’ll handle it the way I see fit. You seem pretty confident, so I guess you don’t have to worry about “handling” it.

“#1 - NOEM brought it up. Nobody else wrote her book…Nobody else put that in there for her.”

I get that. But do the people that are outraged about a dead puppy from 20 years ago,…REALLY give a damn about a dead puppy from 20 years ago?!?!?!

From: shade mt
07-May-24
Hasn't anyone noticed yet that these people are very good at getting us at each others throats. ?

WE are never gonna all see things the same. A guy that is raised out in a rural area, grew up on a farm, raised and butchered animals, hunts etc....animals living and dying is a part of life. That 4H steer the kids raised and showed, darn near almost becomes a pet. Tough to turn it into ground round, But that's life and you just do what needs to be done, nothing cruel about that. But somebody raised in a more suburbia atmosphere might not be so earthy. You want cruel? The animal world is cruel, your favorite pet has no qualms whatsoever about tearing another animal to shreds with its teeth. Wolves and coyotes hamstring deer, etc... People will go to great lengths to disinfect a dogs water dish that licks his own butt, and drinks out of the first muddy puddle he comes to.

aggressive dogs don't care squat about the person they bite, or the other animals they attack. I like to think we as humans would have a little more compassion toward one another, but we don't.....we kill....we slander...we connive and plot....we think nothing of taking the life of an innocent infant robbing it of its chance to live as it gasps its last. Then turn on each other over a dog.

GOD help us, because it is apparent we so often can't help ourselves.

07-May-24
I wish my neighbors would kill their deer chasing dogs so the problem gets taken care of by them, but it's not going to happen. Good for her recognizes a problem and takes care of it unlike the leftist commies running this country- there I said it!

From: DanaC
07-May-24
" Kristi Noem’s Team Told Her to Nix the Dog Story 2 Years Ago

It would have violated the first rule of campaign memoirs: Do no harm.

This time around, Noem has a different team in place, as well as a different imprint, Hachette’s conservative-leaning Center Street. And the folks behind her new book, No Going Back, didn’t get in the way of sharing memories about gunning down an ill-trained puppy.

Kristi Noem’s story about killing her dog made headlines across America. But it wasn’t news to people who worked on her first book, where the tale made it into a draft of the memoir before the publishing team nixed it.

Then, as now, Noem wanted the story in because it showed a decisive person who was unwilling to be bound by namby-pamby niceties, while others on the team — which included agents, editors and publicists at Hachette Book Group’s prestige Twelve imprint, and a ghostwriter — saw it as a bad-taste anecdote that would hurt her brand. The tale was ultimately cut, according to two people involved with the project.

In other words, they produced a typical pre-campaign book, where the first rule is to do no harm. Somewhat unusually for the genre, that book, 2022’s Not My First Rodeo: Lessons from the Heartland, landed the South Dakota governor on the New York Times’ bestseller list, adding to the consensus that the Donald Trump devotee had a big future in GOP politics.

What it didn’t do, of course, was spark a weeklong news cycle — and a round of obituaries for that same political future — by including a tale about Noem leading a 14-month-old wirehaired pointer named Cricket to a gravel pit and shooting him to death after he ruined a pheasant hunt and killed a neighbor’s chickens.

From: scentman
07-May-24
I am currently preparing a couple turkey legs and thighs for the crockpot... at the same time posting on bowsite, while chewing gum at the same time. So to answer your foolish question Lou, yes I hunt a little... just don't post my gun kills on bowsite. scentman

07-May-24
"I mentioned earlier. This was not a case of an old dog, ridden with cancer, that needed put down. It was a case of inconvenience."

no...it was a case of an aggressive dog...that proved to be a danger to people and livestock. big difference.

now...if youd like to discuss an actual willingness to kill things do to "inconvenience"...lets do.

does anyone seriously think those on the left that are salivating over noem would be nearly as outraged if a democrat vp hopeful had stated in a book that she had an abortion 20 years ago? i suspect many of the same people would be celebrating her strength...her autonomy... her willingness to make difficult decisions...and of course living her truth.

07-May-24
"Scent man, do you even hunt? Even a little?"

i have to agree with scentman on this one (shocker...lol)

just because a person has varied interests doesnt mean they dont hunt. bow hunters can be and are interested in a large variety of things. fishing...boating...cycling...sports...music...mushrooming...farming...landscaping...loggin....building...auto repair...spirituality...health...finance...tech...cooking...chemtrails...conspiracy theories...and yes even politics.

one dimensional people are boring.

From: scentman
07-May-24
Ricky, all of a sudden the ground got very cold where I live! ;0) scentman

From: RonP
07-May-24

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Long live bird dogs. :) Those that push the limits tend to be the best when it matters most.

Been around many of them, maybe 100 or more in my lifetime, and can't recall one ever being aggressive to people. Protective, territorial, and misbehaved at times, you bet.

From: TonyBear
07-May-24
"How many people is enough people to be attacked and dangerously hurt before you make a decision on a dog?” Noem asked. After Brennan pressed Noem on whether Commander should have been shot, Noem said, "That what's the president should be accountable to."

Yeah I'd like to see Biden accountable for a lot of things but we all know that isn't going to happen.

From: be still
07-May-24
The Bible also says for women to learn in silence and it appears she ain’t that quiet. It appears now a days some men don’t love their woman enough to know how to control them.

From: Zbone
07-May-24
"The Bible also says for women to learn in silence and it appears she ain’t that quiet. It appears now a days some men don’t love their woman enough to know how to control them"

WHOA!!!

From: HunterR
07-May-24
Those of you saying the dog attacked multiple people where are you getting that info from? Was that in Noem's 4th or 5th version of her anger induced killing spree?

"A good vet uses a two step process of medications, and the animal often never feels the euthanasia."

That is very true and what I believe most dog owners strive for, other than the ones that are either too manly to use a vet or the ones that would rather risk the dog suffering when the bullet takes a different path through the head in order to save a few dollars.

As far as the "killing livestock" yes I understand that a chicken could be considered livestock but in all honesty an untrained dog killing a chicken or even a trained hunting dog doing it once or twice isn't that unheard of and I've seen many dogs that had a history of killing chickens UNTIL THEY WERE TRAINED. Training a dog is not rocket science. Some of you talk as if this 14 month old dog was attacking people daily and killing cattle or horses or something.

From: Zbone
07-May-24
"A good vet uses a two step process of medications, and the animal often never feels the euthanasia."

Holding an old or sick family member dog while the vet euthanatizes is one of the most traumatic things a person can ever do...

You guys keep talking about her taking the time to train it... How do youenz know she didn't take the time to train it? With her resources, "Net worth of 19 million not bad for a farm girl turned Governor" how do you know she didn't have it professionally trained? Some dogs are just untrainable, I've had dogs most of my life and am in my 60's, and it's a fact, there are smart dogs and there are dumb dogs (just like people..8^)) all dogs are not created equal... If they're untrainable I rid them, and give them away... I've never owned a mean dog (although once had a Blue Healer I didn't trust around people) but shooting them is over the top unless sick, but:

"I don't have a problem with putting down a mean dog. They do exist. I know some people claim they don't. But I've seen it. Once they start biting people, in my mind, that's it"

and I totally agree, but I'm not going to publicize it... If they are that aggressive or down right mean biting people and breaking skin, don't want to think what they can do to a child...

Trainability comes with pedigree... I'm curious her pointers bloodline... Years ago bought a miniature Dachshund pup which was AKC registered from pet store bloodlines... He was a beautiful dapple and bought him for his looks, but he was absolutely the dumbest and the worst dog I ever owned so I gave him away and I had paid $600 for him in 1998... Ever since I was leery of getting another Dachshund until I had the opportunity for a standard size with great working European bloodlines and she is very smart and very trainable and minds probably best or as good as any good dog I've ever own... What amazes me, my Teckel (European Dachshund) is such a sweetheart and luvs people, but if she sees a critter she is a downright killer, yet I can call her off any quarry she is in pursuit... Just yesterday while mushrooming near the house she started franticly digging under and around a log so I knew there was a critter there somewhere (probably a chipmunk), so I let her have her fun and snuck away back to the house... This log is close to a hundred yards from the house but if I walk to the edge of the yard I can see it... So over 2 hours later she still not back, so I went out back and sure enough she is still digging around that log... Her prey drive is amazing, and yet I yelled loud at her one time, she stops, looks up and sees me, and here she comes running... (She then drank at her water bowl for like an hour...8^))

Even though those two registered dogs are of the same breed, they are totally different packages from the dumbest to the smartest... It's all about the pedigree and the breeding with hunting breeds...

From: Quinn @work
07-May-24
"I've also treated more gunshot wounds in humans than probably anyone else on here. I've also killed more big game animals with a firearm than most of the bowhunting religion fanatics on here."

Did you happen to stay at a Holiday Inn last night too? :)

From: DW
07-May-24
Just had to put a farm dog down. Cancer, went blind. 10cent 22lR. Great dog but the Vet fees were stupid. No crime to to take care of your pet in a humane manner at end of life or to stop a bite spree. Did it on farm not in city limits. Not a human but a dog.

You have these Furries now! Humans identifying as animals. Whats next? Even have them in our Armerd Forces. . . .WTH

From: HunterR
07-May-24
"You guys keep talking about her taking the time to train it... How do youenz know she didn't take the time to train it? With her resources, "Net worth of 19 million not bad for a farm girl turned Governor" how do you know she didn't have it professionally trained?"

I personally don't know if she took the time to train it, but I do think that at 14 months an assessment that it can't be trained is too soon to know that. I doubt she had it professionally trained since she hasn't mentioned it, but maybe in her 7th or 8th version of the story she'll add that. Her access to money does not make me think she had it professionally trained rather I think the money allowed her to have other priorities instead of taking time with the dog. I would also think she easily could have afforded a vet, but again, it's all about priorities, and, I think in this case how angry she might have been on that day of killing. Her comment that "I hated that dog" tells a lot.

As far as I'm concerned this noem pet killing thing has run it's course, she will never live this down and this will hurt her political career, I just hope Trump doesn't choose her as it will not help him whatsoever.

07-May-24

Ricky The Cabel Guy's Link
"Those of you saying the dog attacked multiple people where are you getting that info from?"

her mouth.

not only was the dog aggressive toward her and the neighbors livestock...it was aggressive toward the previous owner that "rehomed" it to her.

From: HunterR
07-May-24
RTCG I'll believe what comes out of her mouth when I start believing what comes out of Bidens.

07-May-24
"RTCG I'll believe what comes out of her mouth when I start believing what comes out of Bidens."

of course you will. seems like a lot of people only believe what supports their preconceived notions.

From: Zbone
07-May-24
Thanks Ricky for posting the link, I'd have shot the dog too...

From: CaptMike
07-May-24
"of course you will. seems like a lot of people only believe what supports their preconceived notions." Bingo!

From: Saphead
07-May-24
Some people are used to taking care of problems themselves. Self reliance. As bowhunters like to say. She is one of those. I agree with how she handle it. 100%

07-May-24
seems hard for people to understand that two things can actually be factual here.

1. noem had every right...even responsibility...to put down a dog that has proven over time to be aggressive both to other humans as well as livestock.

2. writing about it might not have been politically astute.

both of those things can be correct simultaneously.

From: Thornton
07-May-24
Like I said, I have a couple dogs who have never been around chickens. After chasing down pheasants, quail, waterfowl, prairie chickens, and doves, I can 100% guarantee they would be pretty confused if I started shooting them for killing a stupid chicken.

As for the fools that brag about saving $150 and using a "10 cent bullet" (insert tobacco spitting here) ... you probably spent more than that on your cable bill last month or some other pointless waste of time. The dog gives you his entire life and only wants fed or to hang out with you.

I don't buy her story, and I don't think women should be in politics. I work 3 days a week in a corporate setting dominated by women. When compared to a man running the same department in the same setting, there is far more stability and less turnover.

From: shade mt
08-May-24
Holy crap...You guys crack me up. You will argue till your blue in the face about ole fido getting a bullet. .. Are you actually a bowhunter? i mean like arrow stuff?

Ya all do remember this is a bowhunting forum don't you?....don't know about the rest of ya but yes i hunt, with a bow......and an arrow...And i do kill stuff...just saying.....might want to watch what you say.

It's kinda like the guy that collects firearms, loves upland bird hunting, and fine guns....Then votes for people that would like to take his gun rights ??....kinda leaves rational thinking people scratching their heads......and for the record i don't chew tobacco.

08-May-24
"Holy crap...You guys crack me up. You will argue till your blue in the face about ole fido getting a bullet. .. Are you actually a bowhunter? i mean like arrow stuff? Ya all do remember this is a bowhunting forum don't you?....don't know about the rest of ya but yes i hunt, with a bow......and an arrow...And i do kill stuff...just saying.....might want to watch what you say."

yes...the hypocrisy in this thread is quite deep...on a number of different levels.

08-May-24
"not only was the dog aggressive toward her and the neighbors livestock...it was aggressive toward the previous owner that "rehomed" it to her."

"RTCG I'll believe what comes out of her mouth when I start believing what comes out of Bidens."

fwiw...now that the book has been released and we can read what was actually said...the part about the dog being aggressive to the first family that had her before giving her to noem was also in the book.

im sure it was just an oversight that this part was left out of what was "being reported."

From: 4nolz@work
08-May-24
When I was growing up a dog caught chasing stock was shot and hung by a rear leg on the fence.

From: Quinn @work
08-May-24
"I don't buy her story, and I don't think women should be in politics."

Do you think they should be allowed to vote?

From: Thornton
10-May-24

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From: Zbone
10-May-24
Good one...8^)))

10-May-24

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From: HunterR
10-May-24
LOL "Dogs fleeing South Dakota"..........they need another bus for all the "smelly" goats.

From: scentman
10-May-24
If she gets run out of politics she can always become a plumber, electrician, or a nurse... just sayn. scentman

From: HunterR
10-May-24

HunterR's Link
Umm, maybe not a nurse. I'd be concerned that the noise of the ventilators would piss her off and she'd unplug them in a fit of rage because "they weren't working right and they couldn't be fixed and they smelled funny!"

https://www.newsweek.com/kristi-noem-dog-shooting-fox-news-meme-1896878

From: CaptMike
10-May-24
"If she gets run out of politics she can always become a plumber, electrician, or a nurse... just sayn." She will do anything she chooses well. Being an educated, hard-working person, she will excel far and away more than an entitled, government teat-sucker.

From: spike78
10-May-24
Lol she has 19 million fricken dollars somehow. I’m guessing she will do just fine.

From: Groundhunter
10-May-24
A plumber, give me a break, are you delusional? Trump, who I will vote for, needs a lot more smarts behind him, than a Republican version of Kamala.... I hope he picks DeSantis, and we can get serious of taking this country back. Kristi is fine for SD, I wish her well, but it's time for the adults in the room, to take over

From: DanaC
11-May-24
"it's time for the adults in the room, to take over" "Trump, who I will vote for..."

No irony there... >;-)

From: Thornton
11-May-24
Zbone- sometimes I wonder about the spine of some folks on here.

I've held my last 4 dogs as they took their last breath. I wouldn't call it "traumatic" by any means. I was their source of everything,and I owed it to them.

Now arguing that shooting them is less traumatic makes you look like a blithering idiot.

I watch people die, up to 3 days a week. Either from trauma or illness. The 3 year old girl I put an IV in yesterday for a coworker was in respiratory failure. The look on her face as she struggled to breathe on high flow oxygen, and the look on her mom's face made me understand that if she died, it was going to be "traumatic" for all of us.

From: scentman
11-May-24
God bless you Thornton, takes a special person to do what you do everyday. scentman

From: HunterR
11-May-24
"From: scentman 11-May-24 Private Reply God bless you Thornton, takes a special person to do what you do everyday. scentman"

Agree 100%

From: petedrummond
11-May-24

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From: TonyBear
17-May-24
Well since Ms Noem's trailer became disconnected from her truck and almost got loose into traffic I guess she should resign as governor for that too,.

Um isn't that what the safety chains, breakaway cable brakes, etc. are for? We all know with the 1 7/8", 2" and 2 5/16" balls sometimes it's a connection issue, other times welds break, loads shift, and people do stupid shit like T-boning my trailer cause they couldn't wait to zip in past me on a 4-way stop or traffic light. Oops I guess that guy had a trailer behind him...

Yeah the adults in the room need to take over. The challenges and banter about the debates already sound too much like grade school kids trying to act cool. It's a friggin joke. Especially if Biden get the questions before hand from CNN.

18-May-24
If he gets em beforehand, he won’t be able to remember them, I’m not jokin

From: Zbone
19-May-24
Anybody see the SNL skit last night with the stuff puppy and a Glock...8^)))

From: Stix
19-May-24
"It is reported Kristi shot her pet dog for killing a chicken"

Actually killed multiple fowl, bit a neighbor, and her (Noem). I'd say the dog got what it deserved. Can't have folks from suburban Buffalo judging western ranch life, from the comfort of Buffalo suburbia where life is grand.

Gotta post factual news, not sensationalism to be credible scentman or you're no better than msdnc

From: Nyati
19-May-24
A lot of farmers and houndsmen that I know put their own dogs down . That’s how they were taught to deal with a problem dog. It’s their dog and their problem to deal with. That said, I don’t think if I was a politician I’d put it in a book .

From: Stix
19-May-24
That's the only thing she did wrong. It upsets the karen suburbanites, whose life is grand...

From: Quinn @work
20-May-24
Nothing wrong with what she did except she made the stupid mistake of publicizing it. Some stories are better untold. Probably political suicide for her.

From: scentman
20-May-24
Rumor has it that she "Noem" committed an even more heinous act ... she dipped her chicken wings in Ranch dressing! ;0) scentman

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