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Washington‘a Goat Removal In Cascades
Mountain Goat
Contributors to this thread:
DL 06-Jul-24
smarba 11-Jul-24
DanaC 11-Jul-24
Mike B 11-Jul-24
Mike E 11-Jul-24
TreeWalker 12-Jul-24
spike78 12-Jul-24
IdyllwildArcher 12-Jul-24
Zbone 12-Jul-24
TENPOINT 13-Jul-24
From: DL
06-Jul-24
Well another plan gone awry. Thousands spent but Thousands could have been made if they would have sold tags.

State and federal officials moved 325 goats from the Olympic Peninsula to maintain safety and help bolster the overall population. It didn't turn out well. Author: Eric Wilkinson Published: 6:12 PM PDT May 3, 2024 Updated: 7:41 PM PDT May 3, 2024 NORTH CASCADE, Wash. — By 2020, hundreds of mountain goats had been moved from the Olympic Peninsula to the North Cascade Mountains. Researchers tracked 151 of them. To this day, only four of them are known to be alive. Still, experts say the project was not a failure. Crews used tranquilizer darts before blindfolding the creatures for their helicopter journeys to their new environment.

The goats were introduced to the Olympic Peninsula in the 1920s by sportsmen. They were relocated because they were not native to the Olympics, were harming vegetation, and were becoming aggressive. In fact, one killed a hiker in 2010. "We were seeing more visitor impacts and vegetation impacts, so it's like, we needed to do something," said retired Olympic National Park biologist Patti Happe, who oversaw the project. If the goats weren't relocated, Fish and Wildlife officials say they likely would've been hunted and killed by the state. A total of 325 were airlifted from the Olympic Mountains to the North Cascades over the course of three years, but almost all of those goats are now unaccounted for or presumed dead. At the same time, goat populations in the Cascades were declining. The hope was to bolster the numbers there. That didn't happen. "This was not a failure," said Happe. "As with anything in nature, the picture is more complex the more you delve into it." Happe said the die-off is alarming but not surprising. She concedes stress from the airlift likely contributed to some deaths, but old age and predation were likely factors, and dead batteries on radio collars caused researchers to lose track. "The tightest relationship to those declines is climate change," said Happe. "It's that warmer summers and drought conditions lead to poor forage conditions. That means the goats don't go into winter in as good a shape as we'd like. That leads to die-off." There are now only about 3,000 mountain goats in Washington, compared to 10,000 60 years ago. While that is cause for concern, Happe believes the situation isn't as dire as we might believe. "I don't think goats are disappearing from Washington state," she said. "It's just that some patches of formerly suitable habitat no longer are."

From: smarba
11-Jul-24
Relocated 325 but only 4 survived. And it's called a SUCCESS!!! Only a government official would claim that LOL

From: DanaC
11-Jul-24
Yeah, but moving them is 'non lethal'.

(irony intended.)

From: Mike B
11-Jul-24
"The tightest relationship to those declines is climate change,"

Which is short for "we screwed up and aren't about to take the blame."

I often wonder if WDFW could manage a petting zoo.

From: Mike E
11-Jul-24
Good grief, that woman is an idiot.

From: TreeWalker
12-Jul-24
Batteries can run out yet a mortality signal would not be sent. If the tag stops moving when there is still battery power then a mortality signal is sent. The lack of openness to sharing data with the public which funds the Game Division is disheartening. These departments whistle though the graveyards missing chances to improve. They do not evolve. They are as bloated as that whale that washed up on the Oregon shore decades ago and was "removed" by the highway department and a few crates of explosives.

From: spike78
12-Jul-24
When animal numbers drop it is usually because the habitat sucks for them. You can’t expect to stock places that are not conducive for the animals. Like putting rabbits in a wide open oak forest.

12-Jul-24
Mountain sheep/goats need summer range, winter range, summer escape cover, winter escape cover, and salt licks in order to survive. This is why there are places that look like perfect sheep/goat country, but are devoid of animals.

Escape cover for sheep/goats is cliffs. Winter range is places where they can still access food when there's a boat load of snow in the mountains, like wind-swept mountain sides.

If you move animals like this into an extreme environment, it's not surprising to me that they'd die. These animals aren't just winging it year-to-year reinventing the wheel surviving in the mountains. They're taught where to go by their mothers and the older members of bachelor herds.

This entire operation was a CF. They should have just closed the park for a week and shot them all instead of starving them to death.

A short archery season shortly after peak tourist months would have solved the problem as well without adding significant risk.

From: Zbone
12-Jul-24
The grizzly bears ate them...8^)

From: TENPOINT
13-Jul-24
Then why did they not die off due to climate change where they were taken from ? What a joke !

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