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Anybody with CITES expertise....?

I had a good friend that passed away a few years ago. His widow has decided to remove some of his mounts.....which include a full mount lion, cape buffalo shoulder mount, Asiatic water buffalo from Australia. I told her that she will probably need to locate the corresponding CITES paperwork before she could attempt to sell or transfer them. I doubt that she will be able to find that paperwork. Therefore, I thought that I would ask on her behalf, what steps would need to be taken to get replacement papers?

This should be interesting…

A local thrift store was re-selling a Leopard coat a few years ago… I really wonder how many laws might have been violated on that one, but OTOH, it was clearly an antique… And I think a lot of things are grandfathered in, like the keys on an old piano…

I would probably start with a taxidermist who does a fair amount of work on African species, but I’ll be watching just because it’s interesting to see how laws play out in the real world.

Not sure on Lion. Depends on year. Water Buffalo and Cape buffalo. Do not need cites. Sell em. Nothing is going to happen

Jake, Most states allow intrastate sales, but I would have her contact a local game and fish dept. Alot of animals cannot cross state lines. (lion, leopard, polar bear, etc)

Agree on the advice to speak with a Taxidermist (in the state where the trophies are located). CT for example has now decided that they should be controlling what other countries think is OK with trophies taken there. Our legislators know better than African nations how they should manage their wildlife.

OTOH: I have seen a few things sell at Garage sales, Flea Markets etc, that clearly would involve/interest the Feds if they were contacted, but since they weren’t, all acted as if “no harm no foul”. YMMV

I would suggest talking with folks at SCI and see what light they can shed on the subject. CITES can get hairy !

Someone with Coppersmith may also be able to assist in obtaining some information on the subject.

Calling the local DNR will be like calling a plumber with an electrical problem. CITES is an International Trade Agreement in the trade of Animal and flora parts. US Fish and Game would be the best pace to call.

Best of luck getting someone (an especially live) with US Fish & Game !

No issue with the Buffalo, cites for lion might be needed if sold across state lines. I’d contact FWS rather than trusting us guys on a website.

Get answer in writing. Leave nothing to chance when dealing with the gov’t !

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