Gaia Privacy Settings
General Topic
If you use Gaia, they decided to make everyone’s profile public. Not cool.
I just saw that Gaia is automatically opting all users into a public profile through outsideonline.com, meaning that all activity will be publicly shared. To change to a private account, you have to log in and update your privacy settings via the link.
Pretty much every app. Every site you visit. Your gps location Even when the phone is off. Is sold to entities that sell it to the 3 letter agencies.
Apparently you don’t have Gaia
That's why I use the free version. They know nothing about me other than my spam email address.
Used to like Gaia better than OnX. I've since dumped it.
Stix, read the article I posted. And look into this topic.
Advertisers and companies track you by many different tactics.
In your cell phone contract it states you give permission for these companies to gather any and all information about you. They then sell that data.
The government realized, instead of gaining a warrant they could just buy that data too.
Your phone dumps all the data every day. usually about 2:00 AM
This is not tinfoil hat stuff it’s a fact.
Has been reports of people changing their account to private. Then a day or 2 later they find it has changed back to public. So monitor your account closely if this applies to you.
Big difference between phones giving the Gov some data and Gaia publishing your waypoints and tracks to everybody that has the app.
Just curious, has anyone here been able to access 'somebody else's' data? You know, just to find 'scenic' spots.
Yes. There are lots of tracks that people have made public.
This all came out on the corner crossing case. All you ONX points are public information ONX provided them in court. There is also been some threads circulating that ONX employees are using peoples waypoints and info for certain units
It’s well known. You signed the agreement for your cell phone contract and OnX stating your aware they own and sell your data.
Unless you own the cell phone brand called (UNPLUGGED) it does not store then sell your data
Building on what some have stated, has anyone experienced more people showing up in areas you didn't expect that could "likely" be traced to access to online data points (e.g. OnX)? Are any of you paranoid enough to have stopped using online data, or changed your point naming strategy to be less useful to those who may have access to it?
I’ll turn on ‘Public Tracks’ and post a few screenshots. Stay tuned.
I selected a spot just east of the Platte River Wilderness in Wyoming - see the coords.
These are the listed public tracks in that area.
Here’s one place of many in the Wyo Bighorns that has Public Tracks
"This all came out on the corner crossing case. All you ONX points are public information ONX provided them in court. There is also been some threads circulating that ONX employees are using peoples waypoints and info for certain units"
The OnX data was provided after a subpoena, it's not public data.
" The OnX data was provided after a subpoena, it's not public data. "
If it's available by any means, it might as well be. I always assumed that data was stored on your phone - like a GPS - not in 'the cloud'. Yet another reason not to upgrade ;-)/2
(and just now realized that all my Google maps 'favorite places' are not stored here but 'out there'.)
Assuming the information was public, how would you know some total stranger’s waypoints and data are worth a damn for the purpose of hunting? I mean you could be using some random woke hiker’s information who marked a spot where they took a dump or saw a special bird or rock or something having nothing to do with hunting. In fact that’s what you’d most likely be doing by using some unknown person’s waypoints.
Welp, I checked my GAIA and my settings were on private. I hope that my pocket dialing prowess has keep it that way from day one.
I know one thing, my on phone date will be transferred onto my gps chips manually, then it’s coming off my phone. And my subscription to Gaia will be reevaluated if it’s worth having on my phone at all.
"" how would you know some total stranger’s waypoints and data are worth a damn for the purpose of hunting? ""
You wouldn't be looking for a random strangers' waypoints. However, if you could search by name for, let's say, guys who post trophy pictures from a state you were thinking about hunting, it could be a 'useful starting point.'
(Obviously, the ethics of doing this is a whole other discussion!)
Hell Brad....I've been using your Gaia waypoints for years......... lmao....just fibbing.
Well Jordan, if you had you would have killed an elk by now ;)
Publicly visible waypoints and profiles from an app you use to track your hunting spots is vastly different than the government secretly knowing where you are. I’ve never used GAIA but I promise I’ll delete every single waypoint and then the app if OnX ever tried this route.
I don’t care if the government gets my data, I always assume they have it whether they admit it or not. I don’t want the public to see my hunting spots. Crazy concept.
“You wouldn't be looking for a random strangers' waypoints. However, if you could search by name for, let's say, guys who post trophy pictures from a state you were thinking about hunting, it could be a 'useful starting point.'“
Call me a skeptic but that seems like a reach, not impossible, but go ahead and worry about it if you want.
Not 'worried' about it, just pondering how the technology might be use - or abused.
If you read any contemporary science fiction, (Cory Doctorow for instance) you know there are people pondering far more advanced privacy issues than this one.
If someone makes a point with "elk" symbol in an out-of-the-way location, it could be very useful info. Or if dozens of points all show up one particular valley, that could also be helpful. So I don't buy the "who knows if the point is where someone saw a bird or took a dump" theory. Sure, there may be lots of shrapnel, but I guarantee if I had access to every Bowsiter's points for a particular unit I could find plenty of useful info.
So back to my question, is anyone paranoid enough to mark points with "pig" symbols instead of "elk" or "house" instead of "deer" in case their data is being seen by someone else?
I do believe the EASE of sharing points thru OnX, and the ease of seeing access points or small accessible areas has ruined more spots than back when it was harder to use GPS, paper maps, etc.
BURN!!!! damn you brad....LOLOLOL
Thanks for making my point Bob that ONX employees can look up any individuals account and access all their way points. Smarba I never mark my points with elk or any other symbol. Especially after my buddy who guides for a renowned Utah and Arizona outfitter that is known for putting big animals on the ground. Let's just say he ran into a go hunt founder in Arizona in a very secluded spot they had never seen anyone before. The go hunt member may or may not have admitted of getting waypoint info from ONX for his hunt
I was covered in Bulls on Saturday and made a cpl waypoints. If you can get the coords from an OnX employee, I'll venmo each of you $1,000.
Your right bob it doesn't happen I'm sure no onx employee has ever looked at anyone's profile for some waypoints on a unit they have drawn. Your kidding yourself if you do not think they are sharing info with HUSH, go hunt or any other of their big time collaborates. Your also foolish if you don't think they are looking at super successful outfitters accounts to get some Intel on units, especially on hard to draw Arizona and Utah elk tags
You really think the owner of Onx is going to risk his entire business by letting an employee access a clients data? Clearly you've never owned a business.
It says your info and data is public right on their policy so why does it matter who accesses it? How are you 100% sure it has never happened? Lots of people own businesses who do shady stuff everyday. You think Zuckerberg gives two shits who is employees are giving Facebook and Instagram data to? You think the head of the IRS gave two shits when agents were illegally auditing Republicans awhile back?
“The personal content you submit to the Service (waypoints, tracks, etc.) belongs to you, and you may choose to share it with other users through the Service. onXmaps does not disclose individual account data with other users or third parties unless we’re legally compelled to do so.“
Doesn’t sound like it’s very public.
Become good acquaintances with the data base administrator of a large company, ask a few questions and you’ll get some answers.
While it may be against company policy, it happens. I’ve seen it happen.
Nice to avoid all the other questions Bob. Your kidding yourself if you don't think some intern or other person in the company has never shared info. Your naiveness is commendable.
