Helene devastation.
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The people in the states most affected definitely need prayers fellas. The devastation that Tennessee and North Carolina took isn’t imaginable.
Pray for them.
It came ashore as cat 4 and came over us at 140mph,same track last 3 landfalls but worse than Idalia and Debbie combined.Our County is devastated.House made it the outbuildings are gone,got the rest of the big trees.
All the Weather Channel could do is talk about Tallahassee when radar showed on iously where is was hitting.WC makes $ on hysteria they'll forget about these rural counties by Monday.
They are saying 2 weeks for power restoration
Wow. That’s horrible Mike.
I’ve got no power. Saying it’s going to be end of the week or so. It’s because it’s rural. A lot of lines spread out here. The wind and the fact we had gotten about 5-6” of rain on Wednesday-Thursday really loosened the ground. 75-80% canopy cover. Just a result of conditions.
We see wind like that from time to in bad storms. However, conditions were right for the bizarre. If not for that, it’d just been flash flooding that we routinely see in coal field Appalachia.
You guys are in our prayers.
A couple regional areas got hit but, 20 miles east it was thunderstorm weather. As it progressed southwest it gets worse.
From what I'm being told it's horrible in lots of places. I leave Tuesday for a week or more in the Asheville NC area Mostly just relief work, food service and animal care.
Prayers sent for so many.
RK, the word is all roads in western North Carolina are closed. The Asheville area is completely devastated, and part of I-40 was blown out by a mud slide. Be careful, it's rough.
I feel so bad for all the folks who are affected. Prayers sent.
At one time, my wife and I considered buying a place on Sanibel Island. We're glad we didn't because it got destroyed by Ian. Now, we have no desire to own on the Gulf Coast. It seems the hurricanes have gotten much more frequent, and we don't think it's worth the risk anymore.
Good luck guys I hope everything goes well.
Prayers for all affected.
"It seems the hurricanes have gotten much more frequent, and we don't think it's worth the risk anymore."
While it may seem that way...I'm not sure the data would support that.
In 2004 Charlie went through Naples. Leveled all the trees on the opposite side of the road from us and our side of the street was more or less untouched. Insurance company dropped us as they decided to get out of Florida. Sold that house in 2008 and never thought of going back. The devastation those storms bring is difficult to imagine, without seeing it.
Sundowner Yes evidently it is way worse than what is being reported.
My brother lives near Raleigh, he won't tell me because he's tough and doesn't want me to worry... he said they're all OK but he's not much of a talker, I believe he lives near Belmont. scentman
I've been watching The Weather Channel. They've been mostly reporting from the western Carolinas and eastern Tennessee. The devastation is unbelievable.
The mountain town of Chimney Rock is completely gone, washed downriver into Lake Lure. Last of the Mohicans was filmed there. The only way into or out of Asheville is by air. Biltmore Village, near the famous home of George Vanderbilt, is under water. 24 inches of rain in two days. People have no food, no water, no fuel, no internet nor cell service. Please pray for them. Many are still missing.
I was shocked at the pictures and video I have seen so far. Hopefully those affected get help soon.
Prayers for all involved. From loved ones to first responders.
There are reports of up to 600 "un-locatable" people. Hopefully that number will come down as communication systems improve. In one area near Asheville, NC mules are being used to bring in food and supplies.
Rescue crews are finding bodies lodged in trees. For Asheville and the surrounding towns and communities this is hurricane Katrina equivalent. Those people who have survived this disaster will need much assistance. Their lives are changed forever.
I talked to one of my buddies down there. He was in the storm path but it just jinked a little to the west and it missed him by about 20 miles. He said that near Asheville, they are finding bodies stuck up in trees. It is basically erased. I used to go fishing down on the Wilson Creek just South of Blowing Rock. I was told that the whole valley was scoured. I don't know if any down there made it out. Prayers for them all. JayG
I’ve seen videos of people videoing the surge coming. I’m sure they made it because the video was posted. But, it went from normal to 3-4 high in seconds. People were hollering for their lives. It is terrible. My guts turned watching it.
Talked to my brother over the phone last night for 2 hrs, he's preparing to go up into the devastated areas to render help... chain saw, food, water, make meals for survivor's and helpers alike. My brother works with the Red Truck Men who I have mentioned before on this site, he told me about bodies being found under plywood, tree branches and cars... he said they were opening roads as fast as they can just to get living essentials... his boss just purchased a brand new F-350, trailer, and 3 Blackstone grills... told Lance to load up at get up there, he's driving as I write this and can't be more proud of my little brother!
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Justin, the surge/water is the most damaging and deadly part of these storms.
My sister, in Asheville, will be making her way down here tomorrow. She hasn't really wanted to talk about it much, other than to say that it's bad, really bad. The best part of my weekend was finally hearing from her on Saturday and knowing that they were alive and as well as could be.
I bet Bob. I’m pretty certain some of the people exposed to the worst of this Will have PTSD. They are going to be finding dead people until the clean up is over. Which will be years. And, I’m pretty certain they won’t find all the missing people. It really messes with the mind of those who live in it. And those literally bleeding, working till exhaustion, and sold out helping residents with these tasks.
,,,,"PTSD",,,, I'm afraid it's going to be generational what with such destruction on the scale that I've seen on TV which is just a small portion of the total. Some gal was found aways from her home still clutching her mom who she was trying to save. It just brings you to tears. It took 5 days for the Army to be activated,,jeez, they are the only ones equipped to get in there ,, that is just as sad. Those poor folks are in such a bad way and so worried that they are going to be forgotten,, to have that feeling is on it's own just tragic. They have a good point though, with what's in the news, Israel, election crap, Long shoreman striking, I guess they should be worried. I truly hope not.
Sad truth is most reserves are are relegated to babysitting illegals that are bussed, flown, or chauffeured into cities throughout our country... they don't have the manpower to go give aid to the people who truly need them. scentmouse
Just wait until they get bought out like in Maui, pennies on the dollar. The are that was hit has massive lithium deposits under it. Don't be surprised if BlackRock gets ahold of the area and turns it in to a open pit lithium mine. I'm not saying that is going to happen, but just watch.. JayG
That area is based heavily on tourism with a high percentages of hippies. Try to put in a lithium mine and you’ll have every liberal east of the Mississippi after you. I might be wrong but, time will tell.
We have people affected by the Maui fires that got very little help from the government.
We have people that were affected by the train derailment in East Palestine with little help from the government.
Now we have people affected by Helene in NC, GA and TN with little help from the federal government.
We have sent billions to Ukraine. We gave FEMA spending money on helping illegals and now it comes out they are out of money to help US citizens.
With 10+ million illegals in the country in the last 4 years and we can’t figure out that it’s a simple supply and demand crisis on housing.
Bottom line is half the country voted for this crap and the same half of the country will vote for more of it.
I hate to be a dick but if you voted for this and are affected by these disasters and don’t change the way you vote I don’t feel sorry for you. It’s the ones that didn’t vote for this and are affected that my heart goes out to.
Didn't I hear about a lawsuit filed against the settlement amount for the folks in East Palestine? If so, that's just special.
The slow response in NC by the Biden administration is sickening... All they do is talk climate change rather prompt assistance to these folks... Heck Biden didn't even get off his beach chair for 2 days... Disgusting...
I wish those folk all the best...
So sad.
Harris offering $750 bucks.........when FEMA squandered a billion dollars on illegals...and now they don't have the money and resources to help people? Biden has sent Billions to Ukraine, Israel and on stupid stuff.....but Myorkis blames FEMA being broke on Trump or Congress or some chit...it can't possibly be the total dog shit Democrat policy of prioritizing everyone but US citizens.....
Then there are hundreds of reports that the feds are not letting people help other people, confiscating items intended for aid, etc- Twitter is blowing up with the indignation over the inept Feds.
Wow, you can't get anymore Orwelian that what's happening right now. scentmouse
Not sure if true but read that the 82nd Airborne is stationed in NC but was denied to help with rescue efforts because they may be needed in the Middle East. So remember that everyone is more important than us US peasants.
It's a National Guard role not active military.Trump tried in Haiti and the MSM freaked out.
Its true spike. They're offering the affected something like $750 ornsomething. Fema has no money coz they spent it all on new migrant housing and shit. Send billions all over the country but when we need something it's "figure it out assh*les". Western NC and Eastern TN will never be the same. The devastation is unimaginable. If you find a legitimate organization and are willing to donate anything will help these folks. Upstate western SC also got it bad. Family there just got power back fortunately they apparently are off a main line. Rest if area still no power
Does anyone know what country has offered help in these people time of need?
Are there any trucks or vans with the Canadian Maple Leaf coming to our aid?
How about Mexico? After we take in all their downtroden and desolate, do they care about our humanity?
scentmouse
No doubt. This is a mess. Work crews setting 75 strong until noon or later before they can get orders. Tree services that are setting waiting when there are literally miles and miles and miles and miles of damaged line that needs cut out. Tree crews that aren’t cutting right of ways but claiming they did.
For 5 days I’ve watched hundreds of crews, every morning from 8-1 pm or so play football. Frisby. Layed out in lawn chairs. Tree crews too. Until AEP staff is getting them going.
I literally have been looking at my neighbors for 5 days with power. I’m still in the dark. I literally showed the tree crew the offending tree. AEP official as well. It’s still hung up there with lines tore loose. 25’ into the right of way.
This is the laziest, most unorganized rescue effort I’ve ever witnessed or been a part of. It is alarming pathetic.
I’ve had work crews arguing over who was too blame for not fixing power that’s been out, and been 20’ from the road. I’ve seen residents literally ready to loose their shit over watching the same things I’m seeing. And, a bunch of us all over the place are still setting in the dark. And half of those are watching neighbors within a 1/2 acre living like normal since Saturday.
AEP crews of 20 years ago would have handled this mostly local. They would have had it fixed every where by now. And you wouldn’t have seen them chilling making literally thousands plus per day setting on their ass while people are suffering. Not that anyone here is. But, I’ve seen plenty that are in these other places. And, this is what AEP considers a good effort.
Someone should answer for this alone. We can’t get men or administration to work. When they do they aren’t working together. And, when work is completed, it’s not done. There are literally thousands in the above described predicaments.
I hope and prey that these others areas are receiving much more professional and dedicated responders in all areas and capacity they are needed.
Pray about it fellas.
Wow WV Mountaineer, so sorry to hear... Take video if you can, somebody will have some explaining to do... Best of luck to you...
BTW, where in WV are you?
4nolz, our National Guard is deployed all over, supporting nations other than ours. Check out the link. Yuppers, and that rotten sack of stinking oatmeal for brains says that the people who got hit with the hurricane have gotten enough, yet we keep sending money to the Ukraine and Israel to fund their wars...... On my taxpayer dime. I am so sick of this government wasting my money on stupid things, foreign wars, paying for illegal criminals to come here, etc, while ignoring the people of this country. I am wondering when the good people of this nation are going to finally say, enough is enough. JayG
I think I will. Told the AEP rep that tonight. We will see.
I ranted to clear my chest. I’m mad at the inconveniences this is causing people here. But, I’m literally in fear of the areas that need this help that is being so poorly managed here. I promise if there isn’t a power, tree, rescue, or medical crewe excess, then they missed the ball on this one.
Justin that's s joke that shit it going on man....
WVM…
Sorry you’re having to go through all this…hopefully the powers that be can get their s**t together sooner than later.
That’s what happens when CEO’s run companies bare bones. And, fema money is flowing.
"They're offering the affected something like $750 or something."
It should be noted that the $750 is for folks with immediate needs like food, baby formula, etc... It's only part of much larger emergency funding that will be available. But, of course, political Twitterheads take only a part of what Harris actually said, it goes viral, and suddenly everyone thinks it's the truth..
I grew up in Homestead,Florida yea remember Andrew and Mountain City,Tennessee as my father was in the produce business and farming so it was Florida in the winter Tn. in the summer .When Helene came into the mountains after another system had already dumped 10 inches of rain it created a Perfect Storm.Some places had 30 inches of rainfall and coming off those mountains is unimaginable. The devastation is heartbreaking I’m lucky as I now live west of there on the Plateau so I’m good. I can only imagine if this had happened before TVA had built those dams and controlled the water flow to some extent. The death toll would probably be in the thousands.Some of the stories are unbelievable one house in Hampton,Tn. was swept off its foundations with 5 people inside and was carried down the Doe River almost to Elizabethon.They all survived. I have a lot of good friends in those areas and they’re having a tough time.Growing up we had a 400 plus year old oak tree behind our home dating back to the 1700s it’s gone.Stay safe Lewis
I’m actually pretty happy this morning to see a small amount setting this late. Only about 10 here. One of these parking lots had 71 crew setting at 1 pm yesterday. It only had about 60 setting mid morning.
Hard at it waiting…
There’s a lot of people truly hurting for this kind of management. A lot of money being spent as well.
I understand how this works. So, I’m not bashing. I also knows how it shouldn’t work. And, this is it.
I’ll not post anymore pics. I’ve got plenty. But, it’s just going to enrage people. I don’t want do that. That’s not my intent. My intent is to ensure who ever organized this needs to revisit the drawing board.
WV, that is sad, our country just isn't the same anymore, it reminds me of something third world... GG, your hopeless... my brother was in a convoy of privately run aid and a small fema truck passed them with an escort to get there before them for show. scentmouse
Well the truth, on the internet as well as in war is usually a casualty also. It's hard when you depend on folks to do the right thing and hope they're not motivated by an agenda, be it theirs or someone else's. My prayers are with everyone caught in this devastation. I can't imagine the hopelessness they feel.
Unless somebody has hacked my phone, I read where fema didn’t have enough money to help Helene victims see this through. That is indeed a sad reality of political favors and abuse of tax payer revenue.
Justin, the Homeland Security Secretary, Mayorkas, expressed concern about FEMA having enough money to last the entire hurricane season. He did not say they didn't have enough money for Helene victims.
My god GG, you still don't see it...and continue making excuses for their incompetence. You seriously believe the clowns the Shadow Dems have put in key positions in the Biden Admin?
And you believe Mayorkas when he stated the border is secure years ago? My hope is that the avg citizen is not so easily fooled.
The direct quote from or POS lying DHS leader, "We are meeting the immediate needs with the money that we have. We are expecting another hurricane hitting. We do not have the funds. FEMA does not have the funds to make it through the season," Mayorkas said Wednesday.
DHS has diverted hundreds of millions to illegal immigrants-loops,[Estimate is $640m but with zero transparency citizen rights groups will have to sue to get the actual amounts] now they have no money for predominantly Republican victims of the hurricane.
Hopefully common sense folks will see it, It's the shadow Dem Administration diverting Billions to their stupid policies that left our citizens in a pickle.
So far this year the Biden Admin has splashed money to; - $24,400,000,000 to Ukraine. - $11,300,000,000 to Israel. - $1,950,000,000 to Ethiopia. - $1,600,000,000 to Jordan. - $1,400,000,000 to Egypt. - $1,100,000,000 to Afghanistan. - $1,100,000,000 to Somalia. - $1,000,000,000 to Yemen. - $987,000,000 to Congo. - $896,000,000 to Syria. - $9,000 per illegal immigrant that has entered the U.S. [and we all know its WAY more than that in actuality]
WV Mountaineer - As for the utility workers waiting around, I have a little experience... I retired working for the phone company after 43+ years, from lineman and construction then promotions to repair man, to Central Office to Network Operation Center... There were times it was hurry up and wait, especially my early years in construction, but normally we had our daily orders first thing in the morning or whatever shift we were on at the time... Aside from 911, I never really worked in a new disaster area, I can only assume these guys got called out and/or called in from different areas around including out of state and were first instructed to be ready with trucks, tools, materials and equipment at a certain meet... From there the managers and engineers all the way up to company CEOs and likely other utility CEOs were working together were already assessing the damage and working together how to start to tackle the damage... Basically they had to have a game plan before you can start the game, that is reasonable,,, but after 5 days to a week and still not moving that is unacceptable, that is why I said take video... It's not actually the working crews causing the holdup, it's more likely the managers and engineers getting the game plan together, but then it may be the government holding them up for safety concerns... But guaranteed they were unprepared for that big of a disaster and likely a flustercluck tackling all the issues... It would be a BIG operation...
There is a whistleblower that has just come out stating that DHS (who is in charge of FEMA) has misappropriated funds this year that could have been used to help hurricane victims.
"My god GG, you still don't see it...and continue making excuses for their incompetence. "
Bruce, I think Forrest Gump has better reading comprehension skills than you do. I haven't made a single excuse for this administration, on this thread or any other. I stated that the $750 that Helene victims are getting is just the start of the relief funding. That's fact, not an excuse. I also stated exactly what Mayorkas said about the FEMA budget. Forgive me for trying to provide a little hope and positivity for the poor victims of this tragedy. Your attempts to politicize the relief efforts disgusts me. Bluedog is correct, you've become a one trick pony. It's sad.
GG, I know you to be a solid Republican, no problem even my favorite big brother is one... You value truth and that is a positive trait. I expect that from anybody. You have never defended this administration that I'm aware of and that's fine. Lies and half truths however are disgusting.
Well said.
It’s not the government holding them up. It’s the dysfunction of fema and AEP administration.
I’ve done my fair share of emergency work. My kids and family are lineman that do this for a living. My friends left at regional AEP office and these retired have a lot more reverence then I. These are their thoughts too. Like I said above, I understand how this works. I’ve lived it. I also understand when it’s a cluster and not working.
I believe you WV... and it turns my guts. What a damn shame.
From Elon Musk; Just received this note from a SpaceX engineer helping on the ground in North Carolina.
@FEMA is not merely failing to adequately help people in trouble, but is actively blocking citizens who try to help!
“Hey Elon, update here on site of Asheville, NC. We have powered up two large operating bases for choppers to deliver goods into hands. We’ve deployed 300+ starlinks and outpour is it has saved many lives.
The big issue is FEMA is actively blocking shipments and seizing goods and services locally and locking them away to state they are their own. It’s very real and scary how much they have taken control to stop people helping. We are blocked now on the shipments of new starlinks coming in until we get an escort from the fire dept. but that may not be enough.”
Hundreds of reports on Twitter of FEMA failures. Personal friends in S Carolina say it's true, the gov officials are both doing nothing...and working against people trying to help. Sad.
It seems to me that past tragedies like this....everyone pulled together and the government went all out to help the victims.
Sadly...this does not appear to be the case with this current Administration.
Here's a link to the video of That POS Mayorkas stating that FEMA doesn't have the funds....
I have a serious question guys.
Do you believe they are standing down on purpose? They have the capability to land helicopters every mile, and they have taken over air space so no one can help in aid and recovery.
scentmouse
Elon Musk has engineers there trying to help out and he posted that FEMA is not merely failing to adequately help people in trouble, but is actively blocking citizens who try to help! Since it's an election year and a Dem administration is in charge the MSM media will ignore. Plus the MSM despises rural Americans and especially rural white republicans.
Mayorkas video via AP news from the summer where he states that FEMA is 'Incredibly prepared for disasters...."
You literally can't make stuff up that is worse than this clown show. If this guys lips are moving he is lying. ...and he is the guy that is responsible for our safety? Unbelievable.
"The border is secure. " "We are incredibly well prepared."
It's only in the inept fumbling Biden/Harris admin that this kind of incompetence is tolerated.
Do you pay for your utilities? These Illegals living in brand new housing courtesy of Biden/Harris don't....paid for by you, the taxpayer....
There are a lot of cheerleaders for sending our money over the Israel and the Ukraine to support their wars, yet hand wringing over our nations slow, stupid and almost criminally ineffectual response the the hurricane. FEMA doesn't have enough money for the hurricane season? Well maybe they would if we didn't use it all on paying illegals to come in and ransack our country, paying for the Ukraine and Israeli wars and every other stupid thing, like pay raises for our politicians.. Besides, if our government actually helped the people affected by the hurricane, they would want to stay and BlackRock wouldn't be able to buy them out for pennies on the dollar for their lithium mine, like they are doing in Lahaina for their 15 minute city. Just venting.. This whole situation just has me a little pissed off. Peace, JayG
Seen a chopper pilot interviewed on news tonight that had a chopper load of food and supplies and was run off by government... How can these people sleep at night...
"What storm" was Biden's reply when asked today... Yeah, the devastation wasn't even on his mind, the dude is totally gone... He's a total disgrace with the world watching...
Those NC mountain people, not Asheville residents, but country folks in the small communities and rural areas, are very conservative, decent people.
One thing I've noticed about the aftermath of the storm in NC......there are no reports of looting. I'm not sure why......
Jay, I think a whole lot if people are pretty pissed off about now... don't let it get to you... vent it out like you do, their is something very sinister about this administration and the whole world is taking notice. Peace brother, get in your tree stand and think of the good times with your Ohio buddy.
scent
Anyone else think this Administration isn’t exactly acting like they are worried about an upcoming election?
I'm in the northwest corner of SC. Ridiculous the devastation in our area. But for whatever reason it seems to make us humans feel better that we are not as bad off as someone else. I don't mean that tritely but it is an interesting phenomenon. Perhaps similar to envy; but the opposite. Most in our area have gotten power back and this is just an inconvenient amount of work and time without power, home damage and car damage. But WNC is a whole different level.
Western NC has been destroyed. There are a lot of very good people moving heaven and earth to help out. And it is needed. There is a lot of truth to the ineffectiveness of the govt. But it is not a blanket statement. There is a steady stream of chinooks going up and back every day. This is a situation that was difficult, if not impossible, for the federal govt or anyone else to have imagined and planned for.... There are suspended railroad tracks, roads gone, houses gone, people stuck in trees. There is not much need to embellish what happened. It is that bad.
A contractor friend quoted a waterline repair and he said under normal circumstances his timeframe would have been 6-months.
It is horrific and I am sure that there are many problems and many solutions caused by the individuals helping out. No blanket statements should be made right now; there will be time enough to evaluate this down the road.
Just do what you can to help.
Samaritan's Purse and the goat trains seem to have been very effective. I do worry about bullshit groups capturing donations that do not go where they are intended but have not heard of any yet.
I think the simple reason for this ineptitude is that Biden checked out years ago and Kamala is campaigning. I can't understand how the 82nd Airborne was in Haiti two days after the earthquake but being an hour away from the devastation in NC took them a full week to get there. Leadership matters. I think Pete B did the right thing by asking Elon musk to give him a call and they quickly worked through the red tape so that Elon's teams could start delivering Starlink units again.
Meanwhile, the poor folks on the west coast of Florida are bracing for another CAT 4 hurricane on Wednesday. Looks like the bullseye will be around the Tampa to Fort Myers area. My buddies down there are so sick of this shit. Praying for them.
My cousin lives in Tampa, she doesn't scare easy but she wrote my wife said she's going to stay with her daughter who lives off the path... she loves those snap licorice candy's, I told her we'll send a couple pounds ;0) scent
I have two sisters who moved down to FLA. They both live down in Venice, which is in the bullseye. One sister left and is now in Atlanta and the other is riding it out there. She is about 200 yards from the coast. There is supposed to be a 15-20 ft storm surge. She says that she'll be fine. I'm going to be praying my ass of for the next couple days, that is for sure. I am praying for those in this hurricanes path,, and those who were affected by the last one. These is still no word on my friends in Mortimer and Edgemont. I was told that those places are gone. JayG
Wait a minute, wait a minute... They know a major storm is coming, and are WARNED it's coming for days, yet stay a few hundred yards of the ocean?
Sorry, candidates for Darwin Awards...
"One sister left and is now in Atlanta and the other is riding it out there. She is about 200 yards from the coast. There is supposed to be a 15-20 ft storm surge. She says that she'll be fine."
No offense, but your sister needs her head examined. Not only is she a threat to herself and her family if she has one...but she is a threat every rescue worker that might be expected rescue her.
Even if she's in a condo rated for hurricane winds above the storm surge she'll have nowhere to go after the storm.Dangerous.
Don’t shoot the messenger.
Pray for those folks. They are going to need it.
One of my good friends decided to ride out hurricane Ian on Sanibel Island a few years ago. He's lucky to be alive today. He said he won't make that mistake again this time.
A lot of folks got no where else to go.
I expect many lost their vehicles in the first hurricane so have no means of transportation?
That and many in Florida have out lived their immediate family. They’d rather die in the known than lose what they got unknowingly from afar.
Sometimes, there are worse things than dying. Everyone’s got that place in them. And, I respect my fellow American to decide when, how, and where that applies to them.
God be with all in the way.
Agree fully WV, well said words
For the most part I agree with you WVM...however I tend to think differently when it comes to involving others...like emergency personnel and first responders. They risk their lives to save yours...even if you don't seem to care.
WV, that's very true it's not a black or white decision for some to evacuate. On the otherhand, I have a freind who lives in Naples FL and she's not leaving because she dosn't want to use a PTO day and her car only has about a 350 mile gas tank. I hope for the best for her, and anyone else who decides to stay for whatever reason.
Ricky, WVM, totally agree. I've tried to talk to her and have her leave, she said that she's good where she's at. What can you do? She's an adult and she and her husband have the means to leave, hell, they have one of the nicest RVs that I have seen. In fact, they just got back in from Jackson Hole about a week after the last hurricane. They are both retired and very well off so it's not like they can't afford it.. I don't know. I love her but I'm like, damn..
I agree with Ricky. If someone is ready to die, and they'd prefer to do it in their hurricane ravished home, that's fine. But, I guarantee you, if people like Jay's sister get into trouble, they will be the first people screaming for someone to save them. It's kinda selfish, if you ask me.
"But, I guarantee you, if people like Jay's sister get into trouble, they will be the first people screaming for someone to save them."
You don't know them. Not everyone cries and whimpers at first sign of trouble. Some are tough enough.
"You don't know them. Not everyone cries and whimpers at first sign of trouble. Some are tough enough."
That's right, IMO.......and well said.
Fair point. I don’t know them. Hope they made a good decision.
Obviously they are aware of things we aren’t. I pray everything goes as they’ve got planned.
It's not a matter of "crying and whimpering at the first sign of trouble"...it's a matter of unnecessarily putting rescue workers in harms way when people inevitably realize that they bit off more than they can chew.
When the s**t gets real, very few...if any...just say "oops, I miscalculated...I guess I'll just die.
Maybe they should have a version of a do not resuscitate (or do not rescue) order for people who decide to ride out hurricanes.
It's one thing if you have no other choice...but if you choose to stay...even though you have resources and wherewithal to protect yourself...thats a completely different story.
JayG pretty much told us which camp they are in.
In my opinion, it's not a whole lot different than the guy who has 8 beers and says "I don't need no d*mn Uber, if I die...I die."
Looks like Sanibel Island is going to take another direct hit again this time with Milton...
JayG, I've watched some videos of Venice, FL. It looks like they got hit pretty hard. I hope your sister is OK.
JayG, have you heard anything? scent
Hey guys, so my sister and her husband at the last minute decided to get in their RV and go Sound towards Miami. They went below the hurricane and I just got a text from her this evening. I guess cell service and power is out there. Anyway, they made it safe and are back home. Their house is still there, some damage but still there. Their neighbors house got knocked off its foundation and is a total loss. She says that it looks like a bomb has gone off in her neighborhood. She said she will send pics as her connection gets better. She said it took her over an hour to try to get a text out to the family. When she said she was staying, I got so friggen pissed at her.. But she's an adult, sort of. I don;t know whether she had a change of heart or her husband, who is a pretty level headed guy just told her to get her ass in the RV. Whichever the case was, I am just glad that they are safe. I wish I could say the same about my friends in NC. Nobody has heard from them. From what I have heard, where they were is still unable to get to. Wilson Creek just took everything. JayG By the way guys. I really appreciate your concern for my Sis. I truly do. Thanks.
JayG…Glad to hear they decided to get out…and glad to hear they are ok.
JayG, your part of bowsite family... so goes your sis... glad your back here modultaiting again!
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The Shawn Ryan podcast just had a couple of guys on his latest episode that were providing help to the people impacted from Helene.
They provided first hand experience of the lack of help the government is giving the people that need it.
Holy smokes man. It’s past time to round up local gas well workers, loggers, and foresters. Get some capable equipment in their hands. And build some friggin’ roads into those places in NC that are still unreachable. Why this hasn’t happened is beyond understanding.
They work in the woods everyday. They’d know where the old roads in the mountains are, buggy paths, horse trails, etc…. They’d know how to get through the rock and cliffs. WTH? This is unbelievable.
Kinda makes you wander what in the world is going on.
Rather interesting that they can say they are low or out of money but if the government needs it the printing presses at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing work 24/7. They can send pallet loads to Iran but taxpayers sorry, here’s some KFC coupons.
“The Shawn Ryan podcast just had a couple of guys on his latest episode that were providing help to the people impacted from Helene.”
And Shawn Ryan just had to come out and issue an apology and correction related to the misinformation from that specific podcast.
“And Shawn Ryan just had to come out and issue an apology and correction related to the misinformation from that specific podcast.”
Did you watch the video that he corrected the mistake and apologized for being wrong on? After watching the video I think that just solidifies that Shawn is a stand up guy. If you had listened to the podcast you would know there is a lot more to the story of what’s going on then just one airplane with supplies.
Good news JayG not only are they safe but that expensive RV is safe it likely would have got totaled.
“Did you watch the video that he corrected the mistake and apologized for being wrong on? After watching the video I think that just solidifies that Shawn is a stand up guy.”
Yes, that’s why I posted about it.
“If you had listened to the podcast you would know there is a lot more to the story of what’s going on then just one airplane with supplies.”
I know there is. That claim - that a bird was filled with supplies only for a photo op and the aid never was sent - was by far the most scandalous. The rest just highlights the complexity of a disaster response and the breakdowns that occur when trying to coordinate across local, state, and federal levels, between public and private entities.
