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I have dozens of videos and photos of me walking up on mature bucks, sometimes with a bad wind like this one, and could have easily shot it with a bow. How do you explain that? I don't use any of this scent crap, and half the time I'm not wearing camo.

My point is, anybody can do it without all these gimmicks that end up trash hanging in our woods.

At best, they put their nose up and return to normal. At worst, they are confused and back out. I have yet to have a deer blow after winding w/Nosejammer.

Not an objectionable smell.

The real test of scent control is not a whitetail deer, they are sometimes too curious for their own good. If you can fool a feral hog, or a coyote, then you have done something. I haven’t done that with Nose Jammer that I can recall, so I would say it mostly works with deer, but I wouldn’t lean on it for a hog or a coyote.

Vanilla,,,and cinnamon rolls

It also works on bears. I was sitting an elk wallow and had used Nose Jammer as the wind would swirl some. Here comes a bear. He had his nose up almost immediately but hung around for a couple minutes before nervously walking out, which gave me the opportunity to kill him, which I did.

He smelled me. I am convinced that without Nose jammer he’d have smelled me and sprinted out and I never would have gotten a shot.

Can I “prove” that? No. But I believe it

And I’m a skeptic. I don’t use any other products and tend to wash my clothes in the same detergent my wife uses on the rest of the clothes.

But I’ve seen it work over and over again

I have had well over 1000 bulls downwind over my 50 years of hunting them, and never, ever had one act like that. I've only shot one more since then, after I hosed myself down with it before going into a place where the wind would be bad, but due to other factors, this was the only way in. Killed him at 7 yards. I've lost count of muleys that came in or crossed downwind when I was on the ground.

Does it work? I dunno. But I know a bunch of serious bowhunters who think it does.

This is one of those products which, if it works as well as advertised, it seems like it should fall well outside of the definition of fair chase… But I just might get a wild hair and try it anyway. Maybe it won’t hurt anything?

All you guys bragging how good it does, and no pics or video to prove it. How about I buy some, go get in close with some deer like I always do, then spray it and video their reactions? I mean, the opposite is impossible. You can't spray it on, then take it off. The problem is, the control group is the deer, and to get accurate results, you'd need the same deer, the same time, the same wind, the same dew point, and the same exact hormones in the deer at that time.

What matters is how does a population ofdeer encountered over time in all Kinds of different scenarios normally act. What people Are saying is that net net there is a positive effect which is all One can ask for.

Also, you're basic understanding of what is required to do meaningful research is misinformed/uninformed. If you think all of the variables you mentioned have to be controlled or held constant to make inferences about the impact of another variable, you're simply wrong. No matter how many variables you account for, there are always other ones that could play a role that you don't account for.

Bou, what Thornton is saying is that him hunting is the ultimate "net positive effect". He's better than all of us mere mortals who need to use hocus pocus and vodoo witchcraft to find success. He simply uses his ultimate hunting superiority to dominate the deer.

Joking aside. Thornton I really am curious about how you manage to so often be upwind of deer without getting busted? Would you share, or do you want to keep it close to the vest? My personal experience is I'm ok with being busted once in a while, but I do not like burning out a stand (which seems to happen if I get busted a couple of times).

I figured this thread would prove entertaining after a bit.

Lmao!! Was thinking the same thing.

Shoulda used Eye Jammer.

lmao!

You have to be an obnoxious about it and put down a product you know nothing about.

We don't care if you can sneak up on a wooly mammoth and live to talk about it. 99% of the good people responding to this thread don't care to hear how superior you are at the art of sneaking up on a deer. If you want to brag, start another thread about how you're the greatest deer hunter ever with no scent control.

Your pictures mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING because we don't know which way the wind is blowing. Although, the wind is definitely BLOWING.

It's times like these when I miss TBM. compared to you , at least HE made sense.

Now, I need to go buy another can of NOSE JAMMER to make the owners rich enough to buy some nice property to hunt on...Hopefully in Kansas where the deer don't care which way the wind blows.

Not sure I like it in a tree stand where their eyes follow their nose.

That said, this year I used it, at bear baits, it was in the wheeler. Seemed to work well. I sprayed it on the balsams, after baiting.

Owner of guide service swore by it.

Thornton, what are you so angry about, ? Stay well

I took this photo yesterday at about 20 yards while I was with my wife on her elk hunt. No scent cover up, wearing the same clothes I'd worn for two days prior, wind blowing directly at them. I was not up in a tree, and hadn't had a shower for two days.

I am an amazing hunter, own multiple properties plus three RVs, two ATVs, a boat, a riding lawnmower, a power ice auger, two generators, seven trail cameras, and have a hot younger hunting wife. I summer in the mountains and winter on the Texas Gulf. Still 6' 3" and 195#. Eat your hearts out, losers!

Thornton, I have to admit, you are entertaining.

Seems like the shit talking mostly started with your first post...

OK, first thing… What kind of coward insults any person who doesn’t post here just as a way to take a shot at someone who does? Yes, I know it’s not unprecedented, because there’s at least one asshole here who’s stooped to taking shots at my kids. Not that they would have the guts to play a single shift against them on 200 feet of ice. But it’s still cowardly as hell to insult a non-combatant….

And kinda pathetic to brag about one’s “personal life” on a hunting site…. IMHO

“Not that [the asshole in question] would have the guts to play a single shift against [my boys] on 200 feet of ice.”

Not if my boys were playing Angry, anyway….

.... I wouldn't expect anything less from you.

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You've called people "spineless pricks" and "pedophile" (which you must have edited/removed), along with a whole host of other names. You're a mud slinging back patter who is unbelievably impressed with yourself. You are the Uncle Rico of Bowsite. Congrats.

At least TBM had insight into his behavior... He did what he did for self-amusement. You do what you do because you can't help yourself. Good news though- even though it's rude, insulting, self-aggrandizing, and annoying, it is entertaining in it's own way.

For you insecure, emotional guys like Grey and Scoot and whoever else the shoe fits, here's a buck from 20 minutes ago walking in to my stand. If he was big, I'd have shot him before he got on the mowed path. We just had a storm roll though and the grass is wet and super quiet. The was another small buck that I got 50 yards from but couldn't get a photo before he saw me.

Anybody can hunt like this. I read an article once about an old guy that sat on a bucket in the big timber and shot a P&Y buck every year.

I think it's funny you think you need nose hammer and ozonics.

When I’ve used nose jammer, the norm is that deer don’t smell me and spook. In my experiences it makes a difference, so I use it for that reason.

Typical Grey Ghost. Too dumb to interpret anything. I've had deer walk under me with 2 cycle weed eater gas on my boots, and after I showered.

It’s really great entertainment

Always have a can in my pocket!!!

Mark

50 yards.

62 pounds.

2 or 3 inch group. 2 outta 2.

Last 2 shots out of about 100+…

Need I mention zero let-off???

If you wanna hurt my feelings, out-shoot me.

LMAO. Just razzin’….

Everybody’s got A Line…. Just an interesting psychology experiment to see where, why & how each one of us draws it….

Sometimes is occurs I'm arguing with guys that simply cannot connect the dots.

You nosejammer guys describe how deer act using it, thus deducing that it certainly is the nosejammer causing their actions.

I provide photos and a semi live hunt proving they act the exact the same way without it. This is not hard to figure out.

I've also determined Grey Ghost has absolutely no life whatsoever. The only time I post on here is when I'm at work or on a semi live hunt, not when I'm at home.

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Then again…..maybe not.

And for what it's worth, Thornton made it known that he owns an airplane. Having been a pilot and airplane owner myself for over 30 years I know that being an arrogant pot stirrer who thinks he's smarter than everybody else are bad traits for a pilot. Part of your training to become a pilot is to help you recognize and avoid those kinds of behaviors because that mentality and behavior gets people killed.

I’m a believer in it.

... Start with a large one.

My uncle always said, if a deer could see like a turkey we wouldn’t never kill one with a bow lol.