Some lighted nocks are weak, finicky, or don’t fit the shaft or string well.
I personally use them because the value they give me at the shot is immense, and more so than the fps loss or foc loss. I am considering switching brands because my current brand changed the design and I don’t like how they fit the string anymore.
However, for whatever reason, arrow flight this year has been much better with POI being the same. But I haven't used them yet this year, so we'll see.
;)
This will probably shock some people, but the only reason I don’t use them is really just the cost of the things. I borrowed one for a few shots one evening, and it was really instructive to be able to watch that bright green dot arcing 70 yards downrange… Didn’t realize we had a crosswind over the swamp ‘til I saw that nock kick left up there, but it settled right out once the arrow was back down out of the breeze.
And who knows — maybe on my late afternoon shoots, they’d pay for themselves by preventing some lost arrows….
Kansas hunt thread closed, so I guess try this one.
He’s contributed to and started a few of the lighted nock threads.
We will get back to less confrontational and polarizing topics to maintain the proper decorum on the site
Well, with that wimpy set-up of yours, you really have to watch every grain to ward off a potential disaster…. Those armored cars don’t just lay down and die easy!!
FWIW, sometimes you might actually WANT a few extra grains at the rear if you had a slightly weak arrow and weren’t interested in changing broadheads or otherwise reducing point weight.
The real penalty would come into play if you use a mechanical or other mechanically-disadvantaged/inefficient BH design.
The whole advantage of high FOC has nothing to do with weight distribution per se and is all about minimizing shaft flex upon impact, so that the arrow’s center of mass stays directly behind the point of the arrow to ensure straight-line penetration. And nock-end weight has the greatest potential to maximize the flexion at impact, because Leverage.
But the stiffer your arrow, the less difference it makes…
Ironically, the down-side of a lighted nock is probably at its greatest in its most common application — behind a mechanical broadhead on the lightest, fastest arrow that a guy can get to fly out of his whitetail set-up. If you shoot COCs and relatively stiff, heavy arrows, you’d probably never notice a difference…..
I like to see that red or green light disappear right up the crease.
I like to see, from my stand, my arrow either stuck into or laying on the ground.. with that red or green light glowing..
That's just me.
If you don't like them, and or don't use them, no worries..
I think we are talking compounds here, correct?
1. Cost Lighted nocks are generally more expensive than standard nocks. You not only pay for the initial set of lighted nocks but also for replacement batteries over time. If you're on a budget, this can add up, especially if you shoot frequently or lose arrows.
2. Durability Concerns While nocks are designed to withstand the force of the bowstring, lighted nocks contain electronic components and batteries, making them more fragile than traditional nocks. They could potentially break or malfunction if you shoot them into hard surfaces, like rocks or metal, or if they take an impact.
3. Increased Weight Lighted nocks are typically heavier than standard nocks because they contain a battery and light source. The added weight could affect your arrow’s flight characteristics, including trajectory, accuracy, and kinetic energy. For competitive archers or hunters aiming for optimal performance, even small weight increases might be undesirable.
4. Battery Life and Maintenance The batteries inside lighted nocks can run out relatively quickly, especially if you shoot frequently or leave the nocks on for extended periods of time. This adds the hassle of checking battery life and replacing them regularly. Battery life can be especially an issue in cold weather, where batteries tend to drain faster. Over time, even the best lighted nocks can experience a loss of light intensity or function if the battery degrades, requiring you to replace the nocks entirely or deal with unreliable performance.
5. Potential for Malfunction As with any electronics, lighted nocks can malfunction. Whether due to a dead battery, poor manufacturing quality, or a design flaw, there’s always a chance that the light won’t work when you need it. If you’re relying on it for visibility or tracking, this could be a significant drawback.
6. Visibility and Distraction The light emitted from a lighted nock could be distracting or excessive in certain situations. If you’re hunting in a wooded area or in low-light conditions, the light could potentially draw attention to your position, making you visible to animals. Additionally, the glow could be distracting for other archers if you're shooting in a group or at a target range.
7. Inconsistent Performance in Different Lighting Conditions In very bright environments or during daylight hours, the light in the nock may not be visible or noticeable enough to help track the arrow. On the other hand, in low light, it might be too bright, potentially affecting your shot or providing a false sense of visibility.
8. Environmental Factors (Cold and Wet Weather) In extremely cold temperatures, the lighted nocks' batteries can be impacted, leading to a shorter lifespan or reduced brightness. Additionally, the presence of rain, snow, or moisture can affect the nock’s electrical components, potentially leading to a malfunction or shortening the life of the nock.
9. Shooting in Low Light (Night Hunting) While lighted nocks can help with visibility in low-light conditions or night shooting, they could potentially hinder your ability to properly aim. If you’re using a bow with a lighted nock, the illuminated nock could create a distracting glow that interferes with your sight picture or alignment. Some shooters prefer not to have any artificial lighting during their shot to ensure the most natural and consistent aim.
10. Tracking Arrows in Flight Lighted nocks are designed to help you see your arrow in flight, but they don’t always help with tracking if you miss the target. For instance, if you’re hunting or shooting long distances, the lighted nock might be too bright or distracting to accurately track a fast-moving arrow. If you're shooting at a large distance or into a target where the arrow flies beyond the line of sight, the glow might not help much with tracking.
11. Additional Setup Time Lighted nocks can require more time for installation, especially if you’re switching them out or installing batteries each time. This can be an inconvenience, particularly if you’re in the field and need to make adjustments quickly. The hassle of ensuring the lighted nock is properly installed can add unnecessary complexity to your shooting routine.
12. Reduced Visibility Over Time While lighted nocks glow brightly at first, the brightness tends to dim over time as the battery wears down. Some lighted nocks are designed to last for many shots, but the light can become less useful after a period of use, especially if you're using the nocks repeatedly.
13. Legal Restrictions In some areas, lighted nocks are banned for use in certain types of archery competitions or hunting seasons. Always check local regulations to make sure that using lighted nocks does not violate any rules or make you ineligible for a hunting permit or archery competition.
14. Ethical Concerns in Hunting Some hunters may prefer not to use lighted nocks for ethical reasons. The bright glow could potentially be seen as an unfair advantage or as something that draws unnecessary attention to the hunter, which some may consider disrupting the natural hunting experience. In some cases, the visibility could even scare away animals, affecting the hunt.
15. Over-Reliance on Technology Lighted nocks, like other technological advancements, can make archery more convenient, but there is a downside to relying too much on technology. Some archers prefer to hone their skills using traditional gear without any added lights or gadgets. It’s possible to become overly reliant on lighted nocks to track your shots, which can prevent you from developing stronger observational skills or better understanding of your shooting form.
16. Compatibility Issues Lighted nocks may not fit all types of arrows. Certain arrow shafts (especially older or custom-made ones) might not be compatible with the design or size of the lighted nock. This could lead to a situation where you have to purchase specific types of arrows that fit the lighted nocks or modify your arrows, which could be an unnecessary hassle.
17. Additional Weight on Long-Distance Shoots For archers who shoot long distances or for those who use specialized setups for competitive shooting, even small differences in arrow weight and balance can make a big impact. A lighted nock may alter the trajectory, drop, and accuracy of an arrow over long distances, making them less desirable for competitive target shooting.
18. Aesthetic Preferences Some archers simply prefer the look and feel of traditional nocks. The glow from a lighted nock may not appeal to everyone aesthetically, and for some, a standard, non-illuminated nock feels more in line with their traditional archery values.
Conclusion: While lighted nocks offer some clear advantages, like easier tracking of arrows in low-light conditions, they come with potential drawbacks that might outweigh the benefits depending on your needs and preferences. Consider factors like cost, durability, weight, and personal shooting habits before deciding whether to incorporate lighted nocks into your archery setup.
I still can’t see a downside.
Sorry Nick, but you pale in comparison to a couple others that really DO have all the answers.
Can’t wait for tomorrow’s prompt
I always try to find my arrow after a shot and these reflective wraps light up pretty good when hit with a flashlight. I do suspect that a lighted nock would be even more visible. Maybe I’ll give them a try.
I went away from Lighted nods years ago after a shot at a 20y pig that went 10y with my bow sounding like it blew up- broken nok.
I'm going to go back to them after losing my first animal in a very long time. I'm going to the cheap lighted noks on Amazon- any recommendations?
Long thread on AT where guys are having good success with some of the cheapies.
I get at least 30 hours on them once lit, I just turned one on, to see how long it would last.
I also used Lumenoc, pretty easy to turn them off, just put the gripper on, and give a few shakes.
Good luck
Tried a few brands, a few colors, now I make sure nothing slips out by wrapping a little plumber's tape or piece of plastic bag around them when inserted.
That said, shot a buck this year and it helped with quick arrow locating and returning to the buck after going back to the truck for the game cart. Left it on after I got home to see how long the battery would last. Was still on over 12 hours later.
Does anyone have actual experience with hitting harder objects and having the nocks drive forward, splitting your shaft from the nock end? I see that pretty frequently when I hit some re-bar on a 3D or the pedestal under a knockablock or the framing on one of our NFAA course butts, rocks, trees, etc…
I often glue on a nock collar to beef up the nock end, when I have a proper fit, but I shoot 340s, 400s, 500s and 600s, according to what bow I’m shooting on a given day…
And I won’t lie… Even if I don’t want or need them for hunting, I really did enjoy watching them sail down-range from 80 or so out…. Sometimes it’s OK to do stuff just for grins….
If you hit an animal your hunt is over. If your arrow isn't found, he assumes you hit your animal. The guys an a-hole, I know. But lighted knocks have allowed more than a few hunters to continue to persue an elk.
Um, No.
The entire OP reads:
“If you don’t use them why is that?”
Actually, one time I wished I’d had one was when I missed a deer from a stand near my landowner’s house; he had a couple of Britts and I didn’t want them stepping on a broadhead or otherwise finding a way to cut themselves up. They’re probably an awfully good idea in the Burbs or near livestock.
