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KSflatlander 23-Nov-24
KSflatlander 23-Nov-24
sitO 23-Nov-24
Insheart 23-Nov-24
DanaC 23-Nov-24
Buckeye 23-Nov-24
Bou'bound 23-Nov-24
KSflatlander 23-Nov-24
btnbuck 23-Nov-24
KSflatlander 23-Nov-24
KSflatlander 23-Nov-24
Bwhnt 23-Nov-24
KSflatlander 23-Nov-24
Corax_latrans 23-Nov-24
KSflatlander 24-Nov-24
DanaC 24-Nov-24
KSflatlander 24-Nov-24
Bwhnt 24-Nov-24
KSflatlander 24-Nov-24
Hawkeye 24-Nov-24
Corax_latrans 24-Nov-24
scent 24-Nov-24
Bwhnt 24-Nov-24
12yards 24-Nov-24
Candor 24-Nov-24
Bake 24-Nov-24
Schmitty78 24-Nov-24
DanaC 24-Nov-24
Ambush 24-Nov-24
KSflatlander 24-Nov-24
t-roy 24-Nov-24
Candor 24-Nov-24
sitO 24-Nov-24
deerhunter72 24-Nov-24
KSflatlander 24-Nov-24
KSflatlander 24-Nov-24
drycreek 24-Nov-24
KSflatlander 24-Nov-24
KSflatlander 24-Nov-24
KSflatlander 24-Nov-24
12yards 24-Nov-24
KSflatlander 24-Nov-24
Bwhnt 25-Nov-24
Lee 25-Nov-24
Buckeye 25-Nov-24
KSflatlander 25-Nov-24
hdaman 25-Nov-24
Supernaut 25-Nov-24
JayZ 25-Nov-24
Bernie Bjorklund 25-Nov-24
Ron Niziolek 25-Nov-24
wildwilderness 25-Nov-24
Scoot 25-Nov-24
KSflatlander 25-Nov-24
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njbuck 25-Nov-24
Buckdeer 25-Nov-24
Beav 25-Nov-24
Thornton 25-Nov-24
DRR324 25-Nov-24
Candor 25-Nov-24
t-roy 25-Nov-24
KSflatlander 25-Nov-24
btnbuck 25-Nov-24
APauls 26-Nov-24
Insheart 26-Nov-24
Glunt@work 26-Nov-24
Ken 27-Nov-24
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Will 27-Nov-24
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KSflatlander 27-Nov-24
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t-roy 28-Nov-24
Bwhnt 28-Nov-24
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Geno 28-Nov-24
Supernaut 28-Nov-24
kakiatkids 28-Nov-24
Brian M. 28-Nov-24
Strider 28-Nov-24
Pocoloco 28-Nov-24
Strider 28-Nov-24
KSflatlander 28-Nov-24
KSflatlander 28-Nov-24
Bowfinatic 28-Nov-24
wifishkiller 29-Nov-24
Bwhnt 29-Nov-24
Rub Line 29-Nov-24
sitO 29-Nov-24
Native Okie 29-Nov-24
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From: KSflatlander
23-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo
The rookie and I went hunting on October 26. He’s hunted with me for a 3-4 years. He has access to my trail cams and knows where all my stands are. He’s taken an average 8 two years ago. So he’s not a rookie rookie. He’s also a damn good wildlife biologist so he knows his way around the woods.

As usual, rookies get first stand pick. That morning he picked the stand I would have picked based on WIND FIRST, then morning deer patterns (going to bedding area and not the other way around, etc.). Made me smile…he gets it.

There’s a big nontypical that we have been chasing for a couple years and the rookie knows him well. He had a couple encounters last year but just out of range.

From: KSflatlander
23-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo
Based on comparing pics over the years it appears his big eye guard nontypical point was 1/2 as long this year. It appears he was declining. The perfect buck to take.

From: sitO
23-Nov-24
This will be good, and real!

From: Insheart
23-Nov-24
YES, bring it Ryan & the rookie. Another hunting story.

From: DanaC
23-Nov-24
Hope to see that one on the ground. Good luck!

From: Buckeye
23-Nov-24
I like non typical bucks. Let's see um!

From: Bou'bound
23-Nov-24
Great story. Keep it coming

From: KSflatlander
23-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo
The morning of the 26th we met at my hunting spot. Putting our gear on and he headed off. I got almost to my tree along an oxbow and a big 10 was laying right behind my treestand where there’s a second shelf. Damn, I hope my rookie is having better luck.

I get a text that he in and settled. Ok let’s get too it. The rookie is about 400 yards away also hunting the edge of the oxbow on the north side with a north wind. No way for them to get behind him downwind.

About 30 minutes later I get a text and he says the nontypical is 60-70s out and pestering some does. They hang around out of range. Just come south 30 yards…please please. I was anxious but kept quiet. Let him do his thing. Then my phone vibrated about 30 minutes later and I couldn’t grab my phone fast enough.

From: btnbuck
23-Nov-24
You can't type fast enough either! Keep it coming!

From: KSflatlander
23-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo
Sorry, the in-laws are at the house for thanksgiving so…

I grab my phone and he texted, “ No dice. Had 6 does and 2 fawns come by at 25 yards. Why couldn’t he have been following this group lol.” Reply 10-4.

We suspected the buck went to a known bedding area nearby with the does. He snuck out of there and we headed back to the house and discussed the next move for the evening hunt.

From: KSflatlander
23-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo
We grabbed some grub and watch some football and strategizing 1000 scenarios. 1 variable we knew for sure was the wind and it had switched from north to south. Time to head back to the woods and when we were 10 minutes out I said, “well, which stand?”

He called a stand about 200 yards away from where he seen the buck. The evening stand is at a narrow (45 yards) pinch point with a very active scrap line on the edge of a cut beam field. This is a new stand we (me and my son in law…he’s rookie #2) put up this summer and nobody had sat in it yet. Since the rookie had eyes the buck for quite a while in the morning we figured he didn’t check the scape line that morning as he wasn’t on my camera near the pinch point and scrape line the night prior.

We get to the best drop off spot to access the stand and not bump them bedding (if they were in the NW bedding area). I drop him off and he heads to the stand. As he left I said “squeeze the trigger and follow through.” Reply, “will do.” I drive a mile around to my spot. Get my gear together and head to my stand. I walked 20 feet, “damn, I forgot my phone.” Back to the truck. I grab my phone and look at the Lock Screen. It was a really good picture of the rookie and his fiancé. “F#%k, this is his phone and he’s got mine WTF” was said out loud. We work together and have the same phones and external cases. Damn, I’m an idiot. Ok, just go hunt…just freaking go hunt. Head to my tree with no communication with the rookie for the evening. This is going to be a long long 3 hours. Ugggggh!!!!

From: Bwhnt
23-Nov-24

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Bwhnt's embedded Photo

From: KSflatlander
23-Nov-24
3 hours…time is definitely relative and I swear it was so slow. Check the watch. Only 10 minutes passed. Is there a black hole event horizon nearby? Tic tic tic tic tic…

To be continued tomorrow morning from the stand. I got a doe tag and another rookie is in for the morning hunt.

23-Nov-24
LMSAO, Bwhnt!

It’s so much better knowing that the outcome is still TBD

From: KSflatlander
24-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo
The rookies first buck in the pic.

A little background about the rookie. He’s a self man person. I’m not going to give details but he’s earned everything in his life on his own…trust me. And the odds were against him. First one to graduate college in his family. The guy is an eternal optimist. Every hunt, his parting words are “today is the day.” I admire his positivity, kindness, honesty, courage, drive. I mostly admire how he treats people. Who’s mentoring who?

Back to the hunt. I seen a few and had average 8 and fork hanging around my stand eating acorns from 10 yards. My goodness, close your mouth while eating cause I can hear you chewing…I could hear my mother say. Shooting hours are over and they won’t leave. I am dying to get down and hustle to pick up the Rookie. They just keep browsing so I decide to snort wheeze. He gone lol. I did the walk to the truck at double pace.

I come around to the gate and the rookie is unexpectedly already there. I’m thinking he must of got down early. C’mon rookie. You can’t kill’m from the couch.

It’s a gate only without fencing on either side. Brush and trees keep people from driving around the gate. I expected him to walk around the gate but he opens one side. I’m thinking “come on rookie, just walk around the gate.” Then he opens the other gate. Ahhhh…it dawns on me. I ask is there something we have to drive down there and pick up. His reply with a huge smile, “Yep”

From: DanaC
24-Nov-24
That smile says a thousand words ;-)

From: KSflatlander
24-Nov-24
It ain’t over yet. That was his first deer from 2 years ago.

From: Bwhnt
24-Nov-24
Keeps getting better!

From: KSflatlander
24-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo
He had a huge smile. I don’t know why I even asked but I did. “Is it him?” Reply, “Hell yeah!!!” My next question was, “Is he down within sight…did you physically touch him?” Reply, “Yep, fell within sight about 20 yards.” Shew, we all know shots that look good sometimes don’t work out. This is not that.

Get in the damn truck and fill me in. We drive 300 yards to the closest spot to the deer and he’s telling his story. The buck showed up by himself an hour before dark and was checking the scrape line. Hot damn it worked. Broadside 40 yards and he drilled him. Derek and I practice a lot out to 60 and he’s an excellent shot. We discussed his comfort range and it was 40 if the deer is relaxed and unaware. The deer went down about 100 yards from the truck. Nice shot! I can do that drag as I forgot my cart. Way to go on the drag rookie cause I’m old. The Rookie is about 6’2” and strong as a bull. That will come in handy.

We walk to the buck and there he is. I turn to Derek and give him a big bear huge. The deer is 100 yards from the truck great but 15 foot down the bank of the oxbow. Oh boy, that won’t be fun. I asked Derek, “why did you let him go down there?” And we both bust out laughing.

So the rookie has gutted a few deer with me so I try to keep quiet while he’s doing his thing. Trying not to be overbearing. He gutted it like he’s done it 100 times. Up the bank in about 3 tries as it’s about a 40 degree angle. STEEP!. I’ll confess I had about 30% of the weight up the hill…sandbagged. We get him back to the truck and we are both out of breath. Much so me more than him lol.

While trying to catch my breath I say to Derek, “Hey Derek.” Reply, “yeah.” My reply, “I don’t know how the hell you’re ever going to pay me back for this.” We both start busting out laughing and still out of breath.

So we get him loaded. He’s a beast!!! Derek asks what do you want to do hang him at your house (he lives 2 hours south of me)? I said, “you’ve processed several deer with me, are you comfortable doing it yourself.” Reply, “ Yes.” I said, you can take him home so you don’t have to drive back here. This is your buck and you’re ready. If you’re comfortable, let’s throw him in your truck. Derek replied that he didn’t want to just cut me out and just go home. That is quintessential Derek. You’re not a rookie anymore. I’ve had plenty of practice processing…you’re good, go home and celebrate with your family.

Congrats to Derek! Great buck. You’re an even greater person. Thanks for mentoring me on how to be more positive and better person.

It was the best day.

From: Hawkeye
24-Nov-24
Great story and buck! Thanks for sharing.

24-Nov-24
Great googly-moogly! I don’t usually get excited about Whitetail, but that thing is a BEAST.

Now you guys just need to get rid of those damn training, wheels, right? Because he’s never going to do better than that. You have left him really nowhere to go on the modern side….. LOL

From: scent
24-Nov-24
That is a cool story and better yet great outcome, seems like a very special relationship which makes it all the better... good job gents!

From: Bwhnt
24-Nov-24
Congrats fellas 40 yds is a poke!! Nice job!

From: 12yards
24-Nov-24
Man, what a buck! Great story and experience for you both! Congratulations to Derek!

From: Candor
24-Nov-24
what a dang stud of a buck. He will be fortunate to best that.

From: Bake
24-Nov-24
That’s a big buck! Congrats!!

From: Schmitty78
24-Nov-24
Awesome!! Great story! Congrats to you both!

From: DanaC
24-Nov-24
Great deer and great story. Thanks for sharing it !

From: Ambush
24-Nov-24
That's a beauty! Crazy brows! He can just relax and shoot ordinary deer now.

From: KSflatlander
24-Nov-24
I told him at the truck he may never top that buck but it will be fun to trying.

He was a big pro/am bass fisherman and a fisheries biologist by education. He’s also a bat biologist, wetland bio. He’s been coast to coast chasing endangered species. Derek knows his flora and fauna. I ask if catching a 7lb bass compares gives him an adrenaline rush like killing that buck. He said not even close. He said he’s a bowhunter for life. Another one in the ranks.

From: t-roy
24-Nov-24
That’s a brute! Congrats to your friend on a great buck and an even better experience for you both. Any other hero pics of the buck?

From: Candor
24-Nov-24
I’d argue that buck is like catching 12 lb bass!

From: sitO
24-Nov-24
Thanks for passing it on Ryan, and doing it right.

From: deerhunter72
24-Nov-24
Congratulations! That is quite a trophy!

From: KSflatlander
24-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo
Thanks t-roy that means a lot coming from you, You and I both know why. It says a lot about you. You were a stone cold killer this year.,.again. Beautiful bucks.

I also ask only 1 thing from the rookies that hunt with me. I ask that they help someone else get into bowhunting. Get a rookie and take them bowhunting. You might be surprised what they teach you. That’s my only verbal contract with rookies.

Pass it on.

From: KSflatlander
24-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo

From: drycreek
24-Nov-24
That’s a helluva buck, congrats to the Rookie !

From: KSflatlander
24-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo
One base was 9.5 inches! I’ve never encountered that in my 40 years of bowhunting. The mass is incredible.

From: KSflatlander
24-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo

From: KSflatlander
24-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo
Sorry, I can’t get multiple pictures to post at once. Probably the file size.

From: 12yards
24-Nov-24
Dang! What a brute!

From: KSflatlander
24-Nov-24

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KSflatlander's embedded Photo
This is almost the exact position the buck was in when he shot. The ladder stand is in the trees in the background. Behind the camera it drops 15 feet into the oxbow channel. If you look close you can see the base of the ladder stand in the background.

From: Bwhnt
25-Nov-24
To put another hunter into position to hunt that deer says alot about a guy. That's an experience you will both hold onto for life! Is he going to mount it? It would make an awesome European

From: Lee
25-Nov-24
Awesome story and Buck!! Congrats to the young man and kudos to you KS for being such a gracious mentor!

From: Buckeye
25-Nov-24
Awesome buck and story! Congratulations to the both of you.

From: KSflatlander
25-Nov-24
Thanks fellas. Please do not give me too much credit cause if that buck walked by me (with or without rookies with me) then I’m shooting lol. But I’ve never been one that had to kill the biggest or suffered envy of other hunters. Bucks don’t get that size because they are dumb. But don’t get me wrong, I trying hard to kill the biggest I can. I just enjoy the chase and trying to outsmart these bucks. All deer with a bow are trophies in my book. Typically those old smart mature bucks win most battles but every once in a while. Now a days, it’s more satisfying to see a younger person get a nice buck.

I always tried to keep in mind that my deer mounts won’t be giving the eulogy at my funeral. But maybe there will be some people who do if I listen to my mom and dad and “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” in life…and hunting. I fully understand my reputation here and some of you know I haven’t lived up to it but as Derek always says, “today is the day.”

From: hdaman
25-Nov-24
Congratulations on making memories! That is a special buck.

From: Supernaut
25-Nov-24
Outstanding!

Congratulations to that young man on a dandy buck.

Kudos to you for helping him along.

Good stuff all the way around.

From: JayZ
25-Nov-24
Stud buck. I'm guessing he's hooked on bowhunting now if he wasn't before.

Any idea on what he scores? Gotta be 180-190. If scoring isn't your thing that's cool too, just curious.

25-Nov-24
Absolutely a wonderful buck! Congratulations to Derek and to you for helping get a bowhunter hooked for life. I really enjoyed your story! Thanks for sharing! We truly have a lot to be thankful for!

Bernie

From: Ron Niziolek
25-Nov-24
Congrats to both of you. Fantastic buck!

25-Nov-24
Way to go! That mass is incredible

From: Scoot
25-Nov-24
Wow- that's a beast! Good for you, KS! Well done.

From: KSflatlander
25-Nov-24
Score is unofficially 183 green gross

From: bowhunter24
25-Nov-24
Way to go to both of you! Thanks for helping promote our favorite sport and putting this thread on Bowsite to give me a smile.

From: njbuck
25-Nov-24
Great buck and even better experience for you two. Congrats to you both!

From: Buckdeer
25-Nov-24
Congrats, great buck

From: Beav
25-Nov-24
What a giant! Congrats to both of you and it sounds like it was a great day.

From: Thornton
25-Nov-24
That thing is huge

From: DRR324
25-Nov-24
Great read, great family story! Congrats to the rookie!

From: Candor
25-Nov-24
KS - I have been reading about bowhunting for a while and would like someone to take me the next few years. Do I qualify for a180" mentorship?

Just kidding. Again - what a hammer of a deer for any, much less, a relatively new, hunter.

From: t-roy
25-Nov-24
Your buddy needs a recount. (Not a political statement!) That buck looks considerably bigger than 183” to me.

From: KSflatlander
25-Nov-24
LMAO. Good one Candor.

t-roy- I’ll admit when they get that big it is hard for me to tell very accurately. Seriously, I deal with two scores, pass or shoot that SOB. Once I see them then one of those two scores pop in my mind lol.

He will score it officially and I’ll try to check back in and post.

I’ll see if I can get the Rookie to come on here. Hell, it’s his thread and he’s not a rookie anymore. Damn it, the rookie did it to me again. Who is mentoring who? Now I’m his public relations rep.

From: btnbuck
25-Nov-24
Great story and a Great buck! Congrats to you and the "rookie"! Thanks for sharing!

From: APauls
26-Nov-24
What an epic thread. Good on you dude!

From: Insheart
26-Nov-24
Wow, what a great deer. Is this his 1st deer? Good on you KS, that really is a heart warming story.

From: Glunt@work
26-Nov-24
Wow! That is fantastic...the buck is pretty nice as well.

From: Ken
27-Nov-24
What a beast. Congratulations to the Rookie. And kudos to you for your mentoring.

From: Ken
27-Nov-24
What a beast. Congratulations to the Rookie. And kudos to you for your mentoring.

From: Will
27-Nov-24
Such an awesome story to lay out KS! AWESOME experience for both of you, and hilarious on the phone oopsie! Well done bud!

From: mountainman
27-Nov-24
Great story and congrats to Rookie!

From: Strider
27-Nov-24
“The Rookie” here. Ryan convinced me to hop on Bowsite. I just wanted to say I appreciate you all for the kind words. It was certainly the hunt of a lifetime and a day I’ll cherish forever. I’m excited to be a part of the community and look forward to hearing from you all!

From: W
27-Nov-24
Congrats. Tremendous buck.

From: KSflatlander
27-Nov-24
Hey Strider (Derek). Welcome to the Bowsite. You didn’t have to kick the door in right off the bat LMAO. What an entrance lol. Great buck.

How many encounters with this buck over the years. What was the closest you got to him excluding the day you drilled him?

27-Nov-24
So awesome! Congrats

From: TMac
27-Nov-24
Wow what a great story and one helluva buck. Congrats to you both.

From: arlone
27-Nov-24
Congratulations to the "Rookie"and a thank you to you for being such a good mentor. Looks like a friend and a bowhunter for life!

From: t-roy
28-Nov-24
Welcome to Bowsite, Strider, and congrats on an incredible buck, as well!

From: Bwhnt
28-Nov-24
Strider that's a hard one to beat what a treasure. What are you doing with it? Mount? European?

From: Franzen
28-Nov-24
Holy moly, nice buck.

From: Geno
28-Nov-24
That's an awesome deer! Thanks for sharing the story.

From: Supernaut
28-Nov-24
Welcome to Bowsite and congratulations on a real dandy buck!

From: kakiatkids
28-Nov-24
That is quit a buck...congrats to the hunter and mentor.

From: Brian M.
28-Nov-24
Congrats on a true stud of a buck. Can you tell us where your arrow hit? I see two holes high back and neck. Is that entry/exit or two shots? Incredible animal.

From: Strider
28-Nov-24

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Thanks, everyone! Bwhnt- I'm getting a shoulder mount done. It’s going to be about 10-12 months before he’s done. Going to be a long wait lol.

I had 3 encounters with this buck last year. The closest I got was 60 yards, and was on a super foggy morning where I hadn’t seen any deer and got down from the stand around 10AM. As I was heading back to the truck, I came out of the timber and he was standing about 300 yards away on the field edge. I stalked in to 60 yards but reached a point where I couldn’t get closer without risking blowing him out. Decided not to push it and never saw him again in 2023. Had 2 encounters this year on the same day, the second resulting in the kill.

I attached a few more photos of what he looked like last year if anyone is interested.

From: Pocoloco
28-Nov-24
Congrats to the hunter, an excelent trophy of a maybe lifetime. KSflatlander you are truely an admirable good person. Keep it going!

From: Strider
28-Nov-24
Brian, thank you and great question. The buck was actually quartering away and urinating in a scrape when I took the shot. The arrow entered near back ribs and exited near the offside front leg. The deer ran about 20 yards further and stopped quartering away again, and I wasn't sure how good the hit was so I sent another arrow. The second arrow hit him the top of the neck as he was going down.

From: KSflatlander
28-Nov-24
Then when I showed up, I shot him again out of principle. Hey, I’ve never shot a +190 myself and I seen an opportunity LMAO

From: KSflatlander
28-Nov-24

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Lightning struck twice for the Rookies. This is my “adopted” son. This young man is also self made and overcame all odds against him. Now he has a beautiful family and a couple wonderful children that my wife and I call grandchildren.

This is his first whitetail buck. He’s shot several does.

Being a dad will a couple young kids, work, and moonlighting as a car mechanic, he’s a busy person and didn’t have time to hunt much this year.

This morning lightning struck twice for the Rookies. I’m the most blessed bowhunter this year. Hellava year.

Congrats on a great shot and 10 ringed his heart.

28-Nov-24
Couple of awesome bucks right there. Appreciate you sharing and introducing the next generation

From: wifishkiller
29-Nov-24
Great deer and great story

From: Bwhnt
29-Nov-24
Hey KS, I've killed a few does, been trying for a buck for 33 years, do I qualify as a rookie? You got room for one more? Hahahaha! Congrats to all.

From: Rub Line
29-Nov-24
Well done..........

From: sitO
29-Nov-24
Double cool bud, thanks for helping to pass it on!

From: Native Okie
29-Nov-24
Thanks for sharing, Ryan. Great stuff.

From: elkmtngear
29-Nov-24
Monster nontypical, wow!

Congrats to you both KS, great story!

From: Karen
30-Nov-24
Great deer and Great work! Kinda telling who haven't said congrats.

From: Lucas
30-Nov-24
Great work, congrats to the rookie!

From: Tyler
02-Dec-24
Great story congrats to you both!

From: TGbow
02-Dec-24
What a hoss! Id say he's no rookie now. Congratulations on a great buck

From: skull
02-Dec-24
Congrats good job

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