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Kentucky going to a 8 pt min buck rule
First I have heard of any such thing .
If so it makes more sense than the 15" outside spread rule.
That is a terrible idea! It's called selective breeding...for deer with fewer points.
Interesting way to push folks to your site.
There are a lot of folks in the department that cant count to 8 so it would be hard to enforce.
Both an 8 point rule and 15" spread rules help improve trophy potential through allowing more bucks reach the age of maturity. If someone passes a buck because they can't tell it has 8 points or is 15" wide, that they would've otherwise shot, then that buck's chance of reaching maturity doubles or triples.
Personally, I prefer the 15" rule because it is a better indicator of age than the 8 point rule. Better yet, body aging on the hoof and don't shoot any bucks younger than 3 or 4 years old. That's what I try to do, but it has taken years of observing live deer and aging dead deer to develop that judgement ability.
Any antler restriction rule is better than none though.
The one buck rule did all that is needed to move KY to the top of its potential.
I've worked (retired now) for 4 different FW agencies; KY, IN, KS, and MO. Know about 45 of the others very well. KY agency folks are among the best there are in the country. Many of them are still avid hunters, they care about their work, and they try hard to keep the politicians' hands out of the till and thumb off the scale.
First time I've come to this forum in at least 10 years .... should have stayed away another 10.
All that would do is increase the number of unreported kills and that results in flawed data. It is also detrimental over along period of time in an unenforceable environment such as a state-wide law.
In my opinion antler width is no indication of age. On one of my farms I observed a buck for 5+ years. Have his sheds and everything, never surpassed 13" wide. The last sheds of his I found grossed 188". Are you saying he is not mature because he is narrow? That's far from the truth. The mass on this deer was unreal. With a 15" rule I could not have legally harvested this animal. Is that really what we want in KY? I don't think so.
Antler size/genetics have nothing to do with age. I have several thousand acres leased in multiple counties in Western KY. I have 2 year old 8 pointers at 100+ inches, but I also have 2 year old fork horns.
Moral of my story is 15" minimum is a bad idea. A point restriction, on the other hand, is something I would support.
Not what you want to protect.
Not what you want to protect.
That would be a huge mistake!! I pray they do not do that. My area is over run with huge numbers of poor genetic bucks that need to be removed from the herd. Several 5 year old 4,6,&7 points running around. They would be putting a bounty on the good gentic 8 point yearlings and protecting large no brow tine and freak 6 points. They would destroy are big buck and leave us with nothing but cull bucks everywhere.
I agree. I also think they should put modern firearm season after the rut. More of the smaller cull bucks would be taken because of the 1 buck per season rule.
I believe firearm season should be moved up, shortened, and allow a second buck. This would allow more bucks to be harvested. Too many bucks in our zone, zone 1. They allow unlimited does, but I see more substandard bucks than I do does. People will argue but fact is they are same age, same farm, same food source... the only difference in the large 10pnts and and the 4-7 point bucks is genetics. No one is willing to shoot the 6points over a 10point. So what we see is the poor genetics continue to get passed on and good g metics get harvested. If rifle season had a separate buck tag, people would be willing to harvest lesser bucks.
Buck I agree with you 100%. I hunt spencer county and passed up 8 small bucks not to use my tag. I finally killed a small 8 because he was wounded and walking on the legs. Hunted Taylorsville WMA and saw nothing but small 1 1/2 yr old bucks and no does.