Garmin Xero Bow Sight
Buck down. 6 hours later.
Massachusetts
Contributors to this thread:
Bones1918 06-Dec-17
Sosso 06-Dec-17
Bowhunt3138 06-Dec-17
Moons22 06-Dec-17
spike78 06-Dec-17
Will 06-Dec-17
bjstcrusn 06-Dec-17
bjstcrusn 06-Dec-17
UrbanHunter 06-Dec-17
bowandspear 06-Dec-17
spike78 06-Dec-17
Pi 06-Dec-17
Snowshoe 06-Dec-17
GED 06-Dec-17
Bowhunter7 06-Dec-17
Bones1918 06-Dec-17
Ungie01201 06-Dec-17
spike78 06-Dec-17
Snowshoe 06-Dec-17
spike78 06-Dec-17
Bones1918 06-Dec-17
MA_Bowhunter 06-Dec-17
Will 06-Dec-17
spike78 06-Dec-17
Bones1918 06-Dec-17
mrw 06-Dec-17
drslyr 07-Dec-17
Pi 07-Dec-17
Bones1918 07-Dec-17
BruceP 08-Dec-17
Fran 08-Dec-17
From: Bones1918
06-Dec-17

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Had a big spike come in early this AM. 50 yards. Piece of cake with a muzzleloader. Leaned on the tree to get a good level. Scope was a little foggy but I could see the mass so I pulled the trigger.

Buck ran and I never heard it pile up. Uh oh. Got down to the point of impact. Not a drop of blood. No hair. Could I have missed?

Did I search where I thought it might have gone down. Nothing. Went back to The point of impact. Literally not a drop of blood.

Clean miss, I thought.

After consulting with a buddy I went back out to take a test shot and see how far my zero was off. I was off about 2" right at 25 yards. Elevation was dead on. There is no way I could have missed that deer.

Went back to the original spot and on my hands and knees followed the running hoof prints from the point. About 40 yards and an hour later, I found a single hair. No blood. Went 5 feet more and found a clump of hair about the size of my thumb. This deer was hit.

Finally an hour later of painstaking hands and knees searching I saw him piled up.

I never did find a speck of blood. Entry wound into lungs, no exit wound.

Trust your gut, gentlemen. It's often right.

From: Sosso
06-Dec-17
Nice job! Way to stay on it!

From: Bowhunt3138
06-Dec-17
Good job !!! Congratulations

From: Moons22
06-Dec-17
Nice work congrats

From: spike78
06-Dec-17
Great job. Did you use a Powerbelt bullet?

From: Will
06-Dec-17
Well done - and congrats! How far do you think he went shot to bed?

From: bjstcrusn
06-Dec-17
Spike you took the words outta my mouth!

From: bjstcrusn
06-Dec-17
Once I switched from my cva to a TC I stopped using powerbelt and use the TC 250 grain shockwaves. I had problems with no blood using powerbelt. So far 3 deer down with shockwaves tons of blood and deer drop in their spot.

From: UrbanHunter
06-Dec-17
Congrats! Great Ending!!

From: bowandspear
06-Dec-17
That's some gut instinct! Good job! Great December deer

From: spike78
06-Dec-17
Bj, I shot a bunch of deer with Powerbelts and they get flat as a pancake. The deer went down and the bullet worked however all the bullets did not exit and were found under the offside skin. The one deer that ran left zero blood trail and I never found it. I have since switched to a different kind.

From: Pi
06-Dec-17
No exit are you sure ? When you get inside do a little looking around and let us know . I had one that didn't have an exit but it was a straight on head down spine to heart shot . I was surprised but it happens. Did you hit the spine or high up on a big rib ? Curious.

Oh and congrats , great that you tracked like you did . Yu do us proud !

From: Snowshoe
06-Dec-17
That's why with gun i always shoot them right in front shoulder or in the head behind the shoulder is only for arrows never had one walk with a shoulder or head shot the drop right there

From: GED
06-Dec-17
Thank you for posting this. I think many deer are not recovered due to poor tracking and the assumption of a miss.

From: Bowhunter7
06-Dec-17
Powerbelts usually don’t exit. They break up. I switched to hornaday sst. Big exit hole congrats on your buck

From: Bones1918
06-Dec-17
Lol how did you guess on the powerbelts? Maybe I'll have to look into some other bullets for this offseason.

Fwiw, the gun is an in line .45, not a 50. It was given to me for free. When I do make a purchase it will be a .50 and I'll pay this one forward to a new hunter.

Thanks for the kudos, guys.

From: Ungie01201
06-Dec-17
I hate Powerbelts. I’ve had that happen several times years past. Thankfully saw the deer drop. I’ll only use shockwaves now. No problem with them! Congrats and way to trust your gut!

From: spike78
06-Dec-17
Bones, I knew because I know everything their is to know about deer hunting except how to find and kill one lol. Powerbelts are damn accurate but just too soft.

From: Snowshoe
06-Dec-17
Horady sst takes them off there feet 100 grains pellets 50 Cal sabot

From: spike78
06-Dec-17
Bones, I would not worry about it being a .45 cal. Sweet size. I myself like the smaller calibers for hunting. My 25-06 was hell on deer and most people think a .243 is too small. I love the small fast calibers.

From: Bones1918
06-Dec-17
Whoops, I forgot to answer Will's question about distance. I looked at it on GIS - he ran about a thousand yards. Both lungs were shredded but his heart was fully intact.

From: MA_Bowhunter
06-Dec-17
"Both lungs were shredded but ...he ran about a thousand yards" just doesn't compute for me. Not saying you are wrong, i just don't get it. How could he gave traveled that far with both lungs gone?

From: Will
06-Dec-17
Bones - WOW. Amazing he ran that far.

I've only shot one deer with a gun, my ML, with PowerBelt's in 50cal. double lung. ran about 60yds... but there was 2 feet of snow. No blood for 20yds or so, then decent blood - in snow... so come to think it may not have been a clear trail if there had been no snow.

I keep debating ditching 777 pellets for the Buckhorn stuff... Now, I think next summer Ill adjust and just make the change.

From what all of you say, the buckhorn no fouling pellets coupled with shockwaves would be a good combo - correct?

From: spike78
06-Dec-17
Will check out the TC XTP’s. I also tried the Shockwaves and the TCs shot better but every gun is different. I like the fact you get 30 in a box and good price.

From: Bones1918
06-Dec-17
@ma_bowhunter, I just did an exact measurement with GIS. I picked him up 630 straight-line yards from my stand.

From: mrw
06-Dec-17
Don't be afraid to try the FPB bullet too. Always pass through and good blood. And accurate, 3"-4" groups @ 100 yards.

From: drslyr
07-Dec-17
Barnes expanders are a great choice for muzzleloaders. I'm shooting both my muzzleloaders with those. Four petal expansion. Tremendous wound channels and blood trails like someone painted the woods red.

From: Pi
07-Dec-17
Snowshoe Agreed , Never lost one yet with that combo . Lighter shockwave 250 round shoots better than heavier 300 out of my Thompson O'. and never more that 60 yards till they drop . Pellets are so easy and consistent and I have been shooting the same box for years without any change . Keep them in a Zip lock Baggie . Sabots are tight and accurate shooting .

Wet/ Moist swab of the barrel and one dry wipe and your good as new to shoot again . You can jam a few down in a dirty barrel but it's best to swipe it I think. No need for smokeless or measuring . Who shoots that much at a deer ? One shot and done.

From: Bones1918
07-Dec-17
looks like the Hornady SST and the Thompson shockwave are the same bullet. A few forums said one is bonded better than the other, but it varies which one is bonded.

Anybody know?

From: BruceP
08-Dec-17
Interesting discussion about the Powerbelts. I've always liked them in my TC Omega with two 50 grain Pyrodex pellets, probably because the first time I finished sighting in with them three shots essentially made one ragged hole at about 70 yards. Not that I could ever repeat that LOL. I also found that they load fairly easy in a dirty barrel. I usually don't anticipate having to make a second shot but if I do have to I don't want to be fighting with the ramrod while trying to load.

I've only shot one deer (smallish doe) with them at about 40 yards and it looked like someone spray painted the ground red on the exit side. I think I could see the blood from about 10 yards away. She ran about 20 yards and dropped.

From: Fran
08-Dec-17
I have shot many deer with Powerbelts and never lost one. To me the good far outweighs the bad as said above I have had some that did not exit and some that did. They are very accurate {which is key for me) and I have never had a deer go beyond 75yds with or without an exit hole. If you hit where your aiming to me it doesn't matter if the bullet exits or not your tracking should be short regardless of what your shooting. Personally I do not like jacketed sabots but many people do. It is all about confidence so shoot what your comfortable with. I have shot deer with 12 ga that did not exit.

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