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Contributors to this thread:
DanWesson357 27-Sep-18
RC 27-Sep-18
hawkeye in PA 27-Sep-18
Ben Farmer 27-Sep-18
Rut Nut 28-Sep-18
Boris 29-Sep-18
DanWesson357 30-Sep-18
Phil Magistro 30-Sep-18
Vonfoust 01-Oct-18
Teeton 01-Oct-18
RC 01-Oct-18
DanWesson357 01-Oct-18
DanWesson357 01-Oct-18
DanWesson357 01-Oct-18
Rut Nut 02-Oct-18
Vonfoust 02-Oct-18
DanWesson357 02-Oct-18
Bowhunting 5C 02-Oct-18
DanWesson357 02-Oct-18
Vonfoust 02-Oct-18
DanWesson357 02-Oct-18
DanWesson357 02-Oct-18
Vonfoust 23-Oct-18
PSUhoss 23-Oct-18
huntinelk 23-Oct-18
PAbowhunter1064 23-Oct-18
horsethief51 23-Oct-18
horsethief51 23-Oct-18
Mad Trapper 24-Oct-18
Vonfoust 24-Oct-18
PSUhoss 25-Oct-18
Boris 25-Oct-18
Jibber 25-Oct-18
Vonfoust 08-Nov-18
BC173 08-Nov-18
DanWesson357 08-Nov-18
DanWesson357 11-Nov-18
Bowhunting 5C 12-Nov-18
BC173 12-Nov-18
Teeton 13-Nov-18
DanWesson357 14-Nov-18
DanWesson357 14-Nov-18
Hec 03-Dec-18
huntinelk 03-Dec-18
Bowhunting 5C 03-Dec-18
stick n string 03-Dec-18
From: DanWesson357
27-Sep-18

DanWesson357's Link
Copied from the Hunters for Sunday Hunting Facebook page.

I'm going!!!!!!

If you believe the prohibition on Sunday Hunting in PA needs to be removed from our Game Law....here's your chance to take action. Attend this meeting. Let our lawmakers see how much support is out there for this change. We'll let them know we do vote....and we'll vote out those who won't support this change.

Please join me at 2001 Elmerton Avenue Harrisburg PA on Sunday at 1pm. If you want the PGC to have the authority to review what/when might be hunted on Sunday, you need to make this commitment. If you don't attend....this may not succeed. We need you there!!

From: RC
27-Sep-18
A good place to start would be Sunday hunting on state game lands only. That eliminates Rons complaint and the farmers complaint.

27-Sep-18
Include CWD areas.

From: Ben Farmer
27-Sep-18
RC, that is exactly how Ohio did it back in 1998 I think?? Anyone could hunt public land on Sunday’s and landowners or siblings of the landowner could hunt their own property on Sundays. Year or two later, it was legal everywhere for all.

From: Rut Nut
28-Sep-18

Rut Nut's Link
I don't do FB, so couldn't get into that link. Here's one right from HUSH.

From: Boris
29-Sep-18
I saw that on channel 24 in Erie, Pa this afternoon. An that Laughlin is behind it. They said that he is really pushing for it.

From: DanWesson357
30-Sep-18
Heading to the Capitol to Participate. This is an Antiquated and Unconstitutional Prohibition. Origin of this Unconstitutional "Blue" law was based on Religious belief to restrict all activity except church going on Sunday. It also retards economic growth in a Billion dollar industry. You can Gamble at a Casino, Buy Booze, Go to an Adult Gift Store, and every other type of "Sinful" activity on Sunday. You can Fish, Hike, Bike, Boat and Swim on PA's public lands on Sunday. BUT YOU CAN NOT HUNT?? and spend wholesome family time afield?? EVEN ON YOUR OWN PRIVATE LAND??? It is time to end this prohibition. This prohibition affects NON-Hunters as well, especially in terms of preventing economic opportunities that would come with Sunday Hunting.

30-Sep-18
I'd be careful about saying this is unconstitutional. Hunting is a privilege and there is nothing that says the legislature or PGC cannot set seasons or days we can hunt.

It would be nice if the legislature was not making rules for the Commission but I do like a system of checks and balances. I just wish they worked as a team with a common goal instead of the legislature trying to dictate what the PGC should do.

From: Vonfoust
01-Oct-18
Any update? I was unable to attend.

From: Teeton
01-Oct-18

Teeton's Link
PaLongBow, sb1202 (Sunday hunting) does address stiffer penalties for trespassing why hunting. Here's a link to the bill.. read the second paragraph...

http://www.legis.state.pa.us//cfdocs/Legis/CSM/showMemoPublic.cfm?chamber=S&SPick=20170&cosponId=25820

Do we now have your support? Ed

From: RC
01-Oct-18
In addition, my legislation would amend the Pennsylvania Game Code to address the offense of trespass while hunting. It would make the violation a primary offense as well as increase the penalties. By amending the Game Code, it makes the language similar to that of Agricultural Trespass in the Crimes Code, but with more suitable summary and misdemeanor penalties. Also, by making trespassing while hunting a primary offense, it will be enforceable by Wildlife Conservation Officers, as well as other law enforcement.

From: DanWesson357
01-Oct-18

DanWesson357's embedded Photo
HUSH info
DanWesson357's embedded Photo
HUSH info

DanWesson357's Link
Here is the info paper that HUSH handed out at the Event. The event was at the Game Commission Headquarters on Elmerton Ave.

From: DanWesson357
01-Oct-18

DanWesson357's Link
Here is a link to the info I posted as a Photo. Probably much easier to read and then click and copy links from the digital version.

At this time the PA Senate Bill 1202 is in committee and has support. Hopefully people act and contact not only their own state Senators and Congressmen, BUT VERY IMPORTANTLY contact the office of both the Senate Majority and Minority leaders. I will be putting up links to all of these people. I will also soon write a form letter that you can copy cut and paste if you find that easier. I also think it is important to CALL, EMAIL and send actual letter through the US post. Voicing your support for Senate Bill 1202.

From: DanWesson357
01-Oct-18
Please check out these links. You know how political pressure works. We MUST continue to press our elected representatives to acknowledge this issue in the PA Senate.

This Senate bill was introduced by Daniel Laughlin (R) from Erie, but it is ALSO co-sponsored by Senator James Brewster (D) from Pittsburgh Area and Senator Sarif Street (D) from Philly. So BOTH REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT SUPPORT.

This Bill has plenty of Support in the Senate but it must first get out of Committee. The pressure MUST MUST MUST be turned up on the Senators in the State Game and Fisheries Committee. http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/cteeInfo/index.cfm?Code=11&CteeBody=S

SPECIFICALLY the CHAIR of that committee. Patrick J. Stefano. Stefano is a Republican and a MAJOR roadblock to this Bill coming out of committee and brought to the General Assembly. http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/member_information/senate_bio.cfm?id=1697

There was a spokesman from the Tom Wolf administration that explained the Governor also supports this bill. Wolf will definitely Sign this Bill.

The NRA was there as well as NUMEROUS hunting organizations.

THERE IS PLENTY OF SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL. WE - The Citizens of PA- JUST HAVE TO DO THE LEG WORK.

Senate Bill 1202 http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billInfo/BillInfo.cfm?syear=2017&sind=0&body=S&type=B&bn=1202

Hunters United for Sunday Hunting (HUSH) INFO WHAT CAN YOU DO. https://huntersforsundayhunting.blogspot.com/2018/09/what-actions-you-can-take-how-you-can.html?m=1

Senate Bill 1202 is in committee, It is important to contact your PA State Senators and let them know this is an important issue. It is not just about our own hunting passion, providing more time to get youth involved in hunting, it is about economic growth, and financial support for our North American Conservation model. We all know that non-hunters also benefit from our Hunting conservation. It is important to participate in the idea of popular sovereignty and make sure our elected leaders hear our voices on this issue.

FIND YOUR SENATOR. http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...ourlegislator/

From: Rut Nut
02-Oct-18
Thanks Dan- will do!

From: Vonfoust
02-Oct-18
Thank you Dan. I will be in touch with representatives this week and will pass along the information.

From: DanWesson357
02-Oct-18

DanWesson357's Link
Please no matter where you are in the State. Please contact the office of Senator Patrick J. Stefano.

He is the Chair of the Senate Game and Fisheries Committee where Bill 1202 now resides HE MUST be Convinced to move this bill out of Committee.

Senator Patrick Stefano Senate Box 203032 Harrisburg, PA 17120-3032 Room: 169 Main Capitol (717) 787-7175 [email protected]

02-Oct-18
As I am a staunch supporter of SH, and I too believe we are unfairly and unjustly denied our fundamental rights to do what we want on private property and what we can do on Sunday without others telling us different. HUSH missed some really golden opportunities to spin this case and get the W it was looking for. As long as people support an antiquated and illegal religious based blue law, we are never going to evolve into SH.

From: DanWesson357
02-Oct-18

DanWesson357's Link
BOWHUNTING 5C---We are ALL in agreement of the MULTITUDE of reasons this Sunday Hunting Prohibition is UNJUST. The time to take action is NOW!!! This Bill is IN committee and must be moved out of Committee first.

Specifically, contact the office of Senator Patrick Stefano, Senate Box 203032 Harrisburg, PA 17120-3032 Room: 169 Main Capitol (717) 787-7175 [email protected]

Regardless of where you are in PA, even if he is not the Senator from your district. He is the Chair of the Committee and he must be persuaded to move the Bill forward- out of Committee and before the General Assembly.

Another persuasive tactic would be to to contact the NRA-ILA at the link below. https://www.nraila.org/contact-nra-ila/

Stefano is a Republican from a Rural Area of PA and I am sure he has an NRA rating and Endorsement. The NRA is in favor of Sunday Hunting and if Stefano is in direct conflict with this policy of the NRA, I am sure they could adjust his NRA rating and endorsement.

copy of my email to the NRA/ILA---- What is the NRA-ILA doing to support Pennsylvania Senate Bill No. 1202? Which would remove the Prohibition on Sunday Hunting in PA. This Bill is Sponsored by PA Senator Daniel Laughlin. It is currently in the PA Senate Game and Fisheries Committee. This Committee is Chaired by Republican Senator Patrick J. Stefano. He seems to be the major roadblock to getting this bill out of Committee and presented to the General assembly. The NRA is in favor of expanding opportunities to hunt and increase hunter recruitment and in favor of Sunday Hunting in PA. Please inform PA State Senator Patrick J. Stefano of the NRA's position on Sunday Hunting and encourage him to help PA hunters expand Hunting opportunities and increase hunter recruitment by supporting PA Senate Bill 1202.

From: Vonfoust
02-Oct-18
Hello Mr. Stefano, I am writing to voice my support for the above bill. There are a multitude of reasons why this makes sense, but surely you can see the hypocrisy of being able to spend my day at a (ahem) “Gentlemen’s club” but not being able to take my son and/or daughter hunting. I will note that I am also contacting the NRA as they are fully in support of the PGC being able to regulate hunting.

Thank you for your time. ;)

From: DanWesson357
02-Oct-18
Senator Stefano,

I am a registered Republican in the State of Pennsylvania, a member of the NRA and a PA Hunter.

It has come to my attention that you may not be in full Support of Senator Daniel Laughlin's Bill #1202 which would remove the Legislative Prohibition of Sunday Hunting. I am writing you to ask you reconsider your position and allow this Bill to get out of Committee and presented to the General Assembly of the Senate for a Vote. In your role as the Chair of the Senate State Game and Fish Committee, my hope is that you will do what is in the best interests of ALL Pennsylvanians and that would be to support this bill. I will be vigorously encouraging every Pennsylvanian to contact your office to make sure you understand that the vast majority of people in PA are in favor of allowing the PA Game Commission to determine when hunting can and should occur.

I will also be contacting the NRA and ask that they make their position on Sunday Hunting clear to you and review their NRA Report Card Rating as well as any endorsement that they might be giving a PA Republican representing a rural district where the views of the NRA are highly regarded.

I eagerly await your reply and hope you are willing to assist Senator Laughlin in Getting PA Senate Bill #1202 OUT of committee and before the General Assembly.

Do what is right for the People and Economy of PA sir.

From: DanWesson357
02-Oct-18

DanWesson357's Link
https://www.senatorstefano.com/contact/

Send your messages Here.

From: Vonfoust
23-Oct-18
Thank you for contacting me to inquire about my position on House Bill 1202, legislation that would change Pennsylvania law to allow Sunday hunting. I appreciate your interest in legislation of this kind.

As you are likely aware, Senate Bill 1202 currently is under the consideration of the Senate Committee on Game and Fisheries, to which it was referred on June 11, 2018. I recognize that hunting has a long history in Pennsylvania, and that many would like to see our law changed to permit its practice on Sundays, but there are others who wish to maintain Sunday as a day for nature enthusiasts to enjoy the other aspects of our beautiful woodlands, such as hiking and sightseeing. Should I have the opportunity to vote on this legislation I will weigh these positions as I consider the legislation.

Again, thank you for contacting me about this issue. Please feel free to contact me if I can assist you in any way.

Sincerely yours, Senator Jay Costa, Jr. 43rd District JC/jlg

From: PSUhoss
23-Oct-18
Von -

Perhaps Senator Costa would like to answer the question as to how many of the "others who wish to maintain Sunday as a day for nature enthusiasts to enjoy the other aspects of our beautiful woodlands, such as hiking and sightseeing" have purchased a hunting license to maintain the game lands that the license fees from hunters have purchased. Burns me up.

From: huntinelk
23-Oct-18
Big surprise there is a big D next to his name. Spend a few minutes reading some of the crap that he supports, betting that if he had the opportunity not only would he not vote for Sunday hunting , but he would vote to take the other 6 days away...

23-Oct-18
Also point out that hikers and birdwatchers have all year to do those things, while hunters only have less than 1/4 of the year to pursue their interests. What a tool.

23-Oct-18
With that logic, why can't we hunt private property Sundays?

23-Oct-18

From: Mad Trapper
24-Oct-18
Two words - private property. Mr Costa's reasoning has NO application for private property owners. Those private property owners who do not want people hunting on their land on Sundays do not have to let them. On another note, the editor's column in the recent issue of PA Outdoor News discusses the "out of control" deer population in Armstrong County. Three farmers lament the amount of crop damage that they are experiencing. They say that often times the deer stay off of their property during the day on adjoining private property, then come onto their property at night and eat their crops. I have little sympathy for them. Everybody knows that the only reason that there is no Sunday hunting in PA is the PA Farm Bureau. The farmers can't have it both ways. Cry that there is too many deer and geese, but prevent others from hunting private property on Sunday. I will be the first to admit that Sunday Hunting won't solve the problem, but it will help. And it will help with hunter recruitment.

From: Vonfoust
24-Oct-18
For those interested this was sent back to Mr Costa yesterday:

Hello senator costa, Thank you for your time. A few things that I would like to point out. In the vast majority of states hunting on Sunday is legal. Are there no nature enthusiasts in those states? The Gameland system in place in Pennsylvania was bought and paid for by hunting license fees. While I have no objections to nature enthusiasts enjoying them it should be noted that hunting is the primary reason these woodlands exist.

As per my understanding, the passage of this bill does not guarantee that Sunday hunting will become possible. What it does is permit the Pennsylvania Game Commission to manage it as they see fit. The PGC is tasked with managing wildlife in Pennsylvania. I believe such a decision should be in their hands, not the PA Legislature, many of which have no interest, connection or expertise in such areas.

Again, thank you for your time. I do appreciate that you took the time to read and respond.

From: PSUhoss
25-Oct-18
Is there a website or listing somewhere that lists the legislators and their position on Sunday hunting? I have looked and couldn't find one. Thanks.

PS On Monday, I emailed my position to both of my PA House and PA Senate leaders and asked for their thoughts on the subject. Haven't heard back from them yet.

From: Boris
25-Oct-18
A couple of things that I would like to add. When Ohio opened sunday hunting, they said on game lands or the landowner had to have 100 continues acres to hunt. That pissed off a lot of landowners. The next year, it was open to all. Do that here, I have no problem asking for permission. I already have it in both Pa. and Oh. Also, now correct me if I am wrong. Doesn't the farmers/landowners get paid by the PGC for crop damage? Were does the money come from to pay them? Licenses? I read somewhere that hunting brings in around 600 million to Pa economy every year . An by adding Sunday hunting that it would take it over a billion. I know that many that live close to border states that allow Sunday hunting spend their money in those states to hunt on Sunday. So again, Pa loses. I have heard that the game wardens would cry, because they would have to work on Sunday. Many people work on Sunday. So, lets hope.

From: Jibber
25-Oct-18
I hunt MD for extra meat, but the Sunday hunting is the kicker that makes it a no-brainer.

From: Vonfoust
08-Nov-18
FYI, I had asked about 1202 and got an answer for 1081, and let him know it:)

November 8, 2018 Dear : Thank you for your recent message regarding Sunday hunting which would repeal Section 2303 of Title 34 of the Game and Wildlife Code to allow limited hunting on Sundays on State Game Lands. I always appreciate hearing from my constituents regarding their thoughts on important pieces of legislation before the Senate. This bill would have allowed two Sundays during the combined antler and antlerless deer seasons for hunting white-tailed deer on State Game Lands and another Sunday during the statewide black bear season for hunting black bear on State Game Lands.

Senate Bill 1081 was introduced and referred to the Senate Game & Fisheries Committee on March 20, 2018. However, this bill never made it out of committee. Because the bill was not approved by the House and Senate before the end of the Session year, it will have to be reintroduced during next year’s Session.

As a strong supporter of the Pennsylvania’s hunting traditions and second amendment rights, I have listened to many constituents voice their concerns both for and against this bill. Should we consider these bills in the full Senate, I appreciate knowing your position.

I will review this piece of legislation carefully and take into consideration the opinions of constituents such as yourself before I make a final decision. As Chairman of the Game and Fisheries committee, I intend to hold a series of public hearings on this issue and bring groups on both sides of the issue together to discuss how we resolve it once and for all. Again, thank you for taking the time to reach out to me. If you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me again. Sincerely, PAT STEFANO 32nd DISTRICT

From: BC173
08-Nov-18
Vonfoust....I received the exact same email today in response to the email I sent to him, regarding Sunday hunting.

From: DanWesson357
08-Nov-18
Here is the one I got from him today as well.

Dear Thomas:

Thank you for your message regarding Senator Laughlin’s Senate Bill 1202 that that would authorize the Game Commission to allow for hunting on Sundays. I always appreciate knowing the views of my constituents regarding legislation that I may have the opportunity to consider.

Currently, this prohibition is the only game management decision that the legislature has put into statute. This language would change that by leaving all hunting management decisions to the Game Commission.

In addition, this legislation would amend the Pennsylvania Game Code to address the offense of trespass while hunting. It would make the violation a primary offense as well as increase the penalties. By amending the Game Code, it makes the language similar to that of Agricultural Trespass in the Crimes Code, but with more suitable summary and misdemeanor penalties. Also, by making trespassing while hunting a primary offense, it will be enforceable by Wildlife Conservation Officers, as well as other law enforcement. As a strong supporter of the Pennsylvania’s hunting traditions and second amendment rights, I have listened to many constituents voice their concerns both for and against this bill. I believe a compromise is possible between both sides of this issue and as Chairman of the Game and Fisheries Committee, I have worked to find that compromise. Unfortunately, we were not able to find that compromise during this legislative session.

Due to the ending of the legislative term, this bill will have to be reintroduced next year to receive further consideration. I will review this piece of legislation carefully and take into consideration the opinions of constituents such as yourself before I make a final decision. If you have additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact my office.

Sincerely,

PAT STEFANO 32nd DISTRICT PS/bkt

P.S. I provide regular updates on legislative activity on Facebook and Twitter. Links to these resources and my email newsletter are available on my website, www.senatorstefano.com.

From: DanWesson357
11-Nov-18
Seems like EVERY Sunday this Bow Season was a PERFECT hunting day.

12-Nov-18
Sunday was an awesome day to be in the woods... Bucks chasing, cooler temps and no blowing winds. But in Pennsyltucky, we are illegally held to an archaic blue law that is very biased and religion based. What a sham. Who are they to tell us how to spend time during the season? I watched a giant running a doe Sunday and could do nothing except tell myself, "it's a terrible thing for people to dictate what people can do on their time"... 1950 called, they want their game laws back!

From: BC173
12-Nov-18
The season should go, to the Saturday before rifle season. Including Sunday’s!!

From: Teeton
13-Nov-18
^^^^^^What this guy said^^^^^^ listen to him, him smart!!!

From: DanWesson357
14-Nov-18

DanWesson357's Link
I am in total agreement that the Sunday HUnting Ban should be lifted....BUT THIS WILL ONLY HAPPEN IF HUNTERS TAKE ACTION!!! must write and contact PA State Senators and Representatives. Call, EMail and Write Actual Letters!!! Hell schedule an appointment to visit their Congressional Offices.

Extending the Archery Season would take the same effort but you would contact the PGC instead. I plan on Doing both!!!

It is fine to make posts on this web site and on facebook and all over the internet, but we are basically preaching to the choir. We need to do more than just blow off steam and post comments. We need to act!!! and actually influence the decision makers. Direct your energy where it will be most effective.

PA State Senators and Representatives for Sunday Hunting. PGC for Longer Season!

From: DanWesson357
14-Nov-18

DanWesson357's Link
Senator Daniel Laughlin of Erie PA is the BEST advocate for the Removal of the Legislative Sunday Hunting Prohibition. He was responsible for introducing Senate Bill #1202. He will hopefully RE-introduce this bill in the next legislative session. He sits on the PA Senate Fish and Game Committee and this bill would first have to get out of Committee to be presented to the PA Senate General Assembly to be voted on. Please contact Senator Daniel Laughlin and encourage him to RE-introduce his bill. He is OUR ally.

From: Hec
03-Dec-18
I am a bow hunter and rifle deer hunter. Bow hunters have 6 plus weeks to hunt compared to 2 weeks for rifle hunters. If Sunday hunting is permitted, which would give bow hunters an additional 6 days to hunt, I believe the last week of bow season during the rut should be eliminated. If not bow buck kills will out number buck rifle kills. Causing more loss of hunters. Eventually there will be an explosion of the doe population.

From: huntinelk
03-Dec-18
Apparently PA is in it's own, the world is flat time warp, none of that has happened it NY or OH....I bet that spike is always a spike and that 6 point with grey on his face is an old deer that is declining....

03-Dec-18
In Pennsyltucky, a spike is always a spike so a senior can shoot him to prevent him from getting older and breeding. We have been told this for generations so it must be true. Biology tells us different but hey, stuck in 1950 mode serves some Pennsyltucky people well.

03-Dec-18
Every rifle hunter has equal opportunity to buy an archery license. And with crossbows being legal, once the deer is inside 40 yards you are much closer to rfle hunting than bow hunting anyway. So any rifle “hunter” that complains there aremt enough bucks left after archery season are crybabies and i dont put much stock in what they have to say. They can say it, thats cool. But im not interested in caring.

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