I'll start. Then, when a hypocrite jumps in I'll point that out. Better get your big girl panties on because you might not like the the upcoming snuggie.
How would you like this change to the seasons: Same as 2018, with the addition of real time harvest monitoring and authorization adjustment?
The idea being to prevent the Hbow harvest rate from exceeding the Vbow rate . Forget for now the concept of doing it in the other direction. Think of it the way the sturgeon spearing is controlled, only the season keeps opening back up when the Vbow rate catches up.
All harvests are already required by law to hit the data base by no later than next day. So every day DNR would update the website to notify when Hbow is not authorized starting the next day. Any time the H bow rate exceeds the Vbow rate there is no authorization for Hbow until Vbow catches up, and web site announces resumed open season.
Very simple. Solves all the lame arguments I have ever heard proffered about this fallacious 'rate disparity.'
Are the anti Hbow peeps OK with this? How could you not be? If not, why not?
I respectfully disagree entirely. What if the vertical bow kill goes larger than the hbow. And why is it the stick bows AGAIN get ignored. They should have more consideration than either of the other two because they are the originals. "
Not sure what you mean. The way it is laid out in the OP the Hbows get to hunt some more whenever the Vbows catch up. Just so long as hbows do not obtain a higher rate, it satisfies and nullifies that silly rate argument.
The weekend is young, but so far we do not see a rush from the anti hbow crowd on the current topic.
I got all weekend. Don't forget to tip your waitress!!!
There is no need for language like that . Don't be a sore loser if you can't win the argument.
As for one buck, ha. I'm betting we'll get 3 buck tags before it goes down to one. Think about it. Kills (overall) are low, recruitment is low. Dnr can sell more license. And would really highlight our three separate deer seasons bow,X, gun.
I only say this, because I know I'm not alone when I feel like most of the beef is with people who have to share the resource with people who don't put, but instead, take. Having hunted a CWD zone from the beginning, I can assure you we've seen the lows of mismanagement, and when private land managers used their land as the ultimate tool into herd numbers and recovery, they soon realized there should be rules for a few types of hunters. Private land owners should have their land and resources accessed, then be allowed to hunt outside those rules that apply to people who contribute nothing, except the purchase of a tag....and perhaps a bag of corn lol.
Let me have it! I simply don't give a crap half the time about the misery many of you feel, because I don't feel the same strain that is felt due to the impact of those people who think in terms of what's in it for me, versus what's in it for us.
I didn’t agree with it in the past but this one simple change would end all arguments period. This site shows that groups, especially this one can’t share a resource.
RJN
I’ll repeat this once again. In 2011 - 2013 the vertical bowhunters killed 44,000, 45,000, and 41,000 Bucks. Where was the concern then for the bucks?? Why wasn’t there a call to shorten the bow season?? These numbers are all above the crossbow buck harvests.
You are doing the politician thing again. Spinning things to fit your narrative. You conveniently leave out how it was a larger number of bowhunters that did that killing. There were also crossbow kills mixed in there for elderly/disabled as there was no separate tagging then.
Where was the concern in 2011 - 2013? I mean if we are to save the bucks so gun hunters can shoot them.
Your point about crossbow hunters included in those numbers is a mute point because even with their own season the overall harvest has not gone up and has actually declined looking at the WHOLE picture.
Missouri I will stand by what I have said in the past. I think crossbows should be used in any season there is a gun season, its that simple, except for disabled, those who can show reason for a permit, and 65 and over.
I think crossbows are a lot of fun, but again, I think there should not be full inclusion.
I might be wrong, but that is what I think. However, right now they are legal, so that is the rule. One guy using a cross bow in the woods, is not affecting my hunt....... Only way it would affect my hunt, is change of seasons, which may come, and again those pushing the one buck rule, because of it........
On a good note, I could not be in 2 places at one time. When I hit this sportsman rummage sale yesterday, there was so much stuff, I got caught up in it for the day. What was fun to see, is all the youngsters, early teen guys, buying all kinds of stuff, getting good deals, on guns and equipment, at great prices... I do not see your youth backing away from the outdoors, there was plenty of them there
Sure it will get abused but I would like to think that most hunters abide by the regulations.
Group bagging should be eliminated before we look at season reductions.
I agree that a person should still have to have a valid unused tag in order to continue hunting.
I've said all I have to say on the xbow thing. There is nothing new to say until the season structure decision is rendered. Those things continue to impact so many people's lives on this board that they can't help but say the same stuff over and over on a daily basis. Crossbow Derangement Syndrome is definitely a thing on the WI board.
