Anti "game contest" bill
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From: WausauDug
09-Feb-19
on the news last night in Wausau they had a legislator from Madison introducing a bill to ban "game contests" in the state. Mentioned bunny hunts, coyote hunts, big buck boards etc. The meat of it tho was the weekend coyote hunts and the possible impact it has on wolves. Guess who then had a statement but Adrian Wolfsalot from the timberwolf alliance on the possible stressors these put on wolves and is a problem. Made me want to barf in my living room
From: casekiska
09-Feb-19
So far such a bill has not yet been formally introduced, however it is soon expected to be. There are a number of sportsman's organizations who are aware of this and are keeping an eye on the issue. Further information will appear as available.
(Keep in mind that carried to the extreme, such a ban may eliminate kids fishing contests, bass tournaments, and contests comparing deer weights and antler size. No one really knows where this could end up but if it goes through it will be another piece of our hunting legacy which has been taken away.)
From: RutnStrut
09-Feb-19
The bill is drafted to exclude fishing contests but include buck boards.
From: casekiska
09-Feb-19
Hey Rut - Have you seen the bill? Do you have an SB or AB number for the bill? I'd like to read it. Will you post the number?
From: Screwball
09-Feb-19
Slippery Slope. Give an inch they will take it all.
From: Franklin
09-Feb-19
X2 Screwball....when this was first being bounced around it was meant to be for contests that kill wildlife in great numbers for the sake of the contest....no real purpose other than to kill the animal. How it progressed to deer is a perfect example of Screwball`s point.
From: ground hunter
09-Feb-19
It was all introduced by Red Fred riser,,, you know the same sorry ass that live across the street from the state capitol, but again, put in for 265 days of per diem, and 11,000 dollars from the taxpayer, for walking that far,,,, what a pos......... Our club talked about this today, with our bunny hunt,,,, we could care less what these assholes in Madison say, or our legislators. that might have to grow a pair,we are going to do what we do.....
someone needs to draw the line in the sand,,,,, and I know our club is going to,,,, what about yours....
I really do not want to hear from any sorry asses that want to sing kumaha with these people,,, ,,,, you either want to take a stand or you dont
From: ground hunter
09-Feb-19
One other thing,,,, Evers did not introduce this stuff,,, to be fair, it is people that think he will support it,,,, I do not think he will...... The Progressive Far Left in this state think they have a friend,,,, I am not sure of that,,,,, I am thankful that Prehn is in charge of the NRB
Politics aside, lots of Democrats hunt and trap and fish,,,,, wake up,,, your party is getting nuts,,,,,
From: RutnStrut
09-Feb-19
"Hey Rut - Have you seen the bill? Do you have an SB or AB number for the bill? I'd like to read it. Will you post the number?"
Yes I have seen copies of it on different Facebook groups I belong to. It was last week, I will see if I can find it again and will post it in this thread.
From: Missouribreaks
10-Feb-19
Although I would be opposed to a bill, it really does not have anything against the true meaning of hunting. Hunting and fishing need not be competitive, simply feeds the horn porn and ego craze.
From: CaptMike
10-Feb-19
Sometimes predators need to be managed and mdking a contest out of it is OK with me. I see a bill like this as just a stepping stone, a foot in the door for the anti people to later expand on, in their attempts to further their agenda.
From: ground hunter
10-Feb-19
Missouri I understand what you mean, and of course I can see your point,,,, but its been a rural tradition around where I live, as a get together, of having a lot of fun, and a big lunch or dinner, etc.... no animal was wasted,,,,, no big prizes, oh maybe a shotgun or something like that
Nowadays, money is donated to Hunt of a Life Time....... I guess the world is just changining
From: Screwball
10-Feb-19
Hunting has and will always be competitive. Whether for food, hide, antler, etc. it has always been competitive. Be it man vs animal, man vs man, competition is innate in humans. The drive to be the best, get the biggest, the most, has always been present.
From: South Farm
11-Feb-19
As soon as they went to not having to register in person I noticed a huge decline in Buck Board participation anyway, so really much to do about nothing. Just one more politician trying to LOOK busy without BEING busy if you ask me..
From: WausauDug
11-Feb-19
the news clip really centered on coyote contests and their affect on wolves
From: CaptMike
11-Feb-19
It is not much to do about nothing. Sweeping changes are seldom made all at once. Rather, rights, attitudes, social changes, etc are implemented little by little. This is a stepping stone, not an end.
From: South Farm
11-Feb-19
Capt...As much as Buck Boards disinterest me, pissing matches rate even lower;)
From: CaptMike
11-Feb-19
Not meant to be a “pissing” match, not sure why you think that. I simply gave my opinion and a reason for it.
From: Drop Tine
11-Feb-19
I happen to agree with Capt. in this circumstance.
From: RutnStrut
11-Feb-19
Here it is.
From: RJN
11-Feb-19
Big buck contests have been tradition for many yrs. If someone's panties are in a bundle over it they need to get a life. If this bill passes we are in more trouble than I thought.
From: casekiska
11-Feb-19
Thanks for posting the copy Rut. Interesting info. Not an official bill yet. Not yet accepted by either Senate or Assembly. No AB or SB number or sponsor yet. All this would have to happen for it to be officially considered and debated, then accepted or rejected.
Given all this however, this is something we outdoorsmen should stay on top of. This does have the potential to cause us real problems and headaches. This is something Fred Risser introduces almost every year but so far it has never gotten beyond this stage. We need to stay vigilant and be prepared to oppose it if it ever advances beyond this point.
Thanks again Rut.
From: ground hunter
11-Feb-19
Sad state of affairs,,,, we have legislators that have nothing better to do,,,,, what a joke
I do not think it will pass, but if it does, all hope is lost
From: northbound
11-Feb-19
I notice it said fishing tournament would be fine with proper permits. Are there currently permits required for such fishing tournaments?
From: dbl lung
11-Feb-19
There are permit requirements for fishing tournaments but the number of participants and amount paid out amongst other factors are taken into consideration.
From: ground hunter
11-Feb-19
Fishing tournaments are okay, they bring money into the community, and the fish love it, their tails are always wagging, when being caught....... Its fine with the PC Outdoorsman from Madison, since fished are photographed and released etc...
You can not fix dead, that is why they hate them coyote and rabbit hunts......
When I was a kid, we had crow tournaments, man, that was a good time.... First one I went to, I only had a 410, with hard earned shells, and we had a paper mache made owl, and PS Olt hand calls,,,,,,, good times......
My friend won a 22 rifle, at one of them,,,,,,
From: JRW
13-Feb-19
Another really good example of how when hunters refuse to police themselves legislators will be more than happy to do it.
From: huntnfish43
13-Feb-19
Great example of the left leaning press staying silent on an issue? Where is all of the outrage of legislators getting involved in issues? Funny how the DNR has a trial balloon floating around a bounty on CWD deer, which is just loved by the outdoor media? The majority of folks in the legislature are no friend of the hunting public and I would not be surprised if this silly bill gets some traction. What harm are these current contest actually causing?
HF43
From: Live2hunt
13-Feb-19
GH, we used to have what was called the "Pigeon Liquidation Contest? Groups of 3 would go out in different areas to see who could shoot the most pigeons. That was a blast, big party the night before, then another party at the counting and divvying out the money. each team would bring in 80 to over 100 pigeons. Farmers loved it.
From: Missouribreaks
13-Feb-19
Missouribreaks's Link
Who has killed the largest " Deadly Zombie Deer ", as described on Fox News?
From: stagetek
13-Feb-19
Aren't football pools illegal ? We all see how well that works. This sort of stupidity, if passed, will likely be ignored the same way.
From: JF
13-Feb-19
"or for the chance to win designated prizes."
Wait, isn't this exactly what is being proposed by the Conservation Congress with the CWD bounty? $750 - $1250 sure sounds like "the chance to win designated prizes."...
I see huntfish hit on this with his post as well.
Joe
From: sagittarius
13-Feb-19
A CWD bounty is more like a lottery ticket. Example: Lets say a county has a deer harvest of 2000 deer, and 1000 civic minded hunters have their deer tested. If that county has a low 0.5% CWD infection rate ... only 5 out of 1000 deer tests would pay out as CWD positive. However, Iowa county 2018 CWD infection rate was up to 26.6%, so your odds are better than 1 in 4 to harvest a CWD positive deer there!
From: huntnfish43
13-Feb-19
So if you are "civic minded" for being a participant in the CWD Lotto, one would guess that those who partake in a predator contest are what "A Basket of Deplorables"?
HF43
From: Missouribreaks
13-Feb-19
There is nothing deplorable about a hunting or fishing contest.
From: sagittarius
14-Feb-19
Ha, nothing wrong with predator contests, big buck contests, fishing contests, or even unlimited spring snow goose hunt when all is legal and ethical. CWD testing is win win for the hunter. Us hunters get our deer tested, and we learn how fast and where CWD is spreading.
