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Sunday hunting question?
Pennsylvania
Contributors to this thread:
Boris 29-Jul-19
Brad Gehman 29-Jul-19
Brad Gehman 29-Jul-19
DanWesson357 30-Jul-19
Bowhunting 5C 30-Jul-19
Pat Lefemine 07-Sep-19
DanWesson357 08-Sep-19
DanWesson357 08-Sep-19
DanWesson357 08-Sep-19
DanWesson357 08-Sep-19
Pat Lefemine 08-Sep-19
DanWesson357 09-Sep-19
Vonfoust 09-Sep-19
Bowhunting 5C 11-Sep-19
bill v 11-Sep-19
BC173 12-Sep-19
pa10point 12-Sep-19
Boris 12-Sep-19
BC173 12-Sep-19
Boris 12-Sep-19
Boris 13-Sep-19
BC173 13-Sep-19
Bowbender 14-Sep-19
Brad Gehman 15-Sep-19
From: Boris
29-Jul-19
From what I read, it looks like we will be able to hunt the Sundays of rifle season. Am I correct or did I miss something?

From: Brad Gehman
29-Jul-19
You will NOT be able to.

From: Brad Gehman
29-Jul-19
This bill is now in the House. They come back to work in September. It would still need to go thru the fish n game committee, pass the house on three votes, then get the signature of the Governor. Then, because of how laws and regs are advertised, it would take a HUGE miracle to implement for one day in rifle. From what I read, it seems the PGC is willing for it to go thru the proper requirements then implement for the next license year

From: DanWesson357
30-Jul-19
Senate Bill #147 has ONLY ONLY ONLY passed the Senate. Now it has to go through the House of Representatives. As Brad Gram stated this will not happen until September at the earliest. Believe me IF IF IF somehow we can legally hunt deer on Sunday in PA this season...you will NOT be able to miss the news, info and excitement. In the mean time contact your Reps in the PA Legislature and tell them you support SB-147.

30-Jul-19
+1 What Dan said...

From: Pat Lefemine
07-Sep-19
Any update here?

From: DanWesson357
08-Sep-19

DanWesson357's Link
09/10/19 -- Public Hearing in front of the PA House of Reps on Senate Bill #147. Link above is an excellent time line of SB#147.

Still has to pass the House of Reps and get signed by the Gov.

A few key Republican Senators in the Senate Appropriations committee were road blocks to the removal of this prohibition.

From: DanWesson357
08-Sep-19

DanWesson357's Link
Well written article outlining the process up to Sept. 5th. from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette.

From: DanWesson357
08-Sep-19
Written Testimony from United Bowhunters of PA to be presented on Sept. 10th.

United Bowhunters of Pennsylvania: 907 Derbyshire Avenue Mechanicsburg, PA 17055 Phone: (717) 766-3620 ubofpa@yahoo.com

Testimony to PA House of Representatives Game and Fisheries Committee PA Senate Bill #147 September 10, 2019

The United Bowhunters of Pennsylvania (UBP) was founded in 1985 and is the statewide bowhunting organization advocating for the interests of the over 300,000 licensed Bow Hunters in our Commonwealth. The UBP is a nonprofit organization dedicated to the Preservation, Promotion, and Protection of bowhunting opportunities in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. We support game management based on sound biological principles and a "resource first" philosophy. We believe that the PA Game Commission, with its trained biologists and game management experts, should have full regulatory authority to set seasons and bag limits and are best suited to determine when game species are to be hunted. The UBP is opposed to the archaic Legislative Prohibition on Sunday Hunting. Although the UBP would have preferred to see PA Senate Bill #147 passed in its original unamended form, we are still in full support as it will expand hunting opportunities by removing the prohibition on hunting for three Sundays. The UBP considers SB #147 an acceptable first step, and will be in full support of all future legislation that works to put bag limits and hunting season decisions where these decisions belong, with the experts at the PA Game Commission.

Hunters are first and foremost conservationists of habitat and the flora and fauna of that habitat. Over 800,000 PA Hunters pay license fees in addition to an excise tax on ALL hunting related items via the Pittman Robertson Act of 1937. These fees support the purchase of public land that is then conserved and managed in a Trust to provide habitat for over 480 species of animal in PA. Because of hunter dollars, the PA Game Commission has been able to purchase over 2 Million Acres of state game land to conserve and manage. With the current Sunday Hunting Prohibition, those 2 Million acres are off limits to Hunting on Sunday and this is a discriminatory injustice against hunters.

In addition to the 2 Million Acres of State Game Land, there are Millions of privately owned acres of huntable land in PA. The idea that the PA General Assembly can arbitrarily prohibit lawful Pennsylvanians from hunting on their own private land is an oppression. Hunting is a lawful and wholesome pursuit with wide ranging benefits. The PA General Assembly is disallowing over 800,000 licensed hunters with the unreasonable and unjust Sunday Hunting Prohibition. Where is the logic of celebrating and participating in the tradition of hunting Monday-Saturday and then forbidding this beneficial activity on Sunday? It is an irrational prohibition that denies lawful Pennsylvanians the ability to participate in an activity that is legal six days a week, and denies landowners the right to use their own land to hunt on Sundays. The prohibition is a mistake of previous lawmakers and it must be corrected.

For many of the 800,000 licensed hunters in PA, the weekends are the only time they can get afield to hunt because they work five to six days a week or go to school and participate in extracurricular activities five to six days a week. Prohibiting one of those two days for workers and students is an unjust and unreasonable discrimination. Hunting is often a family activity, and an opportunity for a parent or mentor to teach young boys and girls how to be an ethical, responsible, and lawful citizen through hunting. Many parents and mentors must work on Saturday and much of the youth is involved with school sponsored extracurricular activities this, severely limits their time afield together.

Why does the PA General Assembly continue to suppress a celebrated, wholesome and beneficial outdoor activity? Please ask yourselves, why is Sunday prohibited? Why not Wednesday or Monday or Saturday? Why is only hunting prohibited on Sunday, why not other lawful recreations and activities? Why not prohibit Golf on Sunday or Fishing or Swimming? When you ask these types of questions you can see how completely arbitrary, how completely unjust, and how completely oppressive the prohibition on Sunday Hunting is and why the PA House of Representatives should vote yes on PA Senate Bill #147.

It is an honor to present this testimony and participate in our great democracy.

Sincerely, Thomas W. Redfern Legislative Chair United Bowhunters of PA Rick Conley President United Bowhunters of PA

From: DanWesson357
08-Sep-19

DanWesson357's Link
Harold Daub of PFSC will be speaking during the Sept. 10th Testimony.

From: Pat Lefemine
08-Sep-19
Thanks Dan, fingers crossed!

From: DanWesson357
09-Sep-19

DanWesson357's Link
You might also consider using your fingers to call or email the members of the PA Game and Fisheries committee and the Rep where you own land and hunt in PA. EVERY single message matters in this fight.

From: Vonfoust
09-Sep-19
Thank you for keeping this here Dan.

11-Sep-19
By the looks of it we will never see SH while any of us are young enough to enjoy it. Stupid Farm Bureau and hikers.. Hikers, yeah, get off the property you did not pay for... Fricking squatters.

From: bill v
11-Sep-19
Thanks Tom. Great job

Bill v

From: BC173
12-Sep-19
I guarantee you one thing, I’ll enjoy Sunday hunting this year. Just like many have been for years!!

From: pa10point
12-Sep-19
I can be in ohio or west virginia from my house in less than 15 minutes. So i will be hunting sundays in ohio, filling my truck up with cheap ohio gas and eating at ohio restaurants. If pennsylvania doesn't want that money, ohio is more than happy to have it.

From: Boris
12-Sep-19
Did it go through? Or not?

From: BC173
12-Sep-19
Me too, 10 point

From: Boris
12-Sep-19
I can be in Ohio in less than 10 minutes. But to get where I hunt in Ohio, I have to drive 35-40 minutes.

From: Boris
13-Sep-19
Question: does the Pa. Game commission still pay the farmers for crop damage? If so, isn't that money that hunters pay for hunting licenses? Does the Farm Bur. pay the farmers for crop damage? Don't know or food for thought? What is funny, is the farmers scream about the damage and all of the animals. But, when hunters have the chance to hunt, all they can do is sit an watch Sunday football. I think that the Game Commission should STOP giving money to the farmers, Mainly because they already get a ton of money from the federal government. Just my thought. Oh, did you know that Nationwide Insurance gives a 10% discount on your insurance if you join the Farm Bur.

From: BC173
13-Sep-19
And, if you were to stop and ask for permission to hunt, more than likely, the answer would be “no”. But, still, they don’t want anyone to hunt on their own property. Go figure. Simply amazing. Gutless politicians.

From: Bowbender
14-Sep-19
Boris,

A number of years ago, the farmer we rented a small home from, farmed the property across the road from us. Posted, got money for crop damage as well as shot deer for damage. Funny thing is, the only deer shot for damage were big buck.

From: Brad Gehman
15-Sep-19
The PGC does not pay for crop damage

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