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report coming out of Crawford cty....
can you see the pics now?
its people on facebook...talking about finding dead deer on their land....some people are finding as many as 20 - 25 dead deer...some have been tested...and came back positive for blue tongue...I own 250 acres in Crawford so this hits home to me....lucky i haven't found anything yet...the closets land that had dead deer from my land is about 20 miles...should i be concerned?
My ad blocker was goofing me up. thanks, I can enable the photos now.
Are there any dates on that stuff?
facebook post was from yesterday......talked to a buddy of mine that lives in crawford....he said its getting bad...alot of land owners are finding dead dear....mostly around the Kickapoo river areas....
10 point I hope that you aren't involved in this. 25 miles is nothing and can have an outbreak in multiple counties, usually not the case. If you have water on your property, that's a good place to start.
the mighty Mississippi is close...i do have a nature spring that dams up once in awhile...I am headed to the cabin this weekend to check cameras and look around.
Those insects are attracted to the slightest bit of water, and I have even read damp ground, or cow manure. Be careful though, some people like to stir something larger into something that it's not, especially right before season. Hopefully not, but I have heard that iowa has been hit hard in the last few weeks.
Thanks Noc
Do you know what counties in Iowa? Iowa isn't to far from my land...right across the mighty mississippi....
South central part of iowa has the largest outbreak, but have heard over 20 counties total, a few hit the hardest. Polk, Warren, madison, Lucas, Decatur, and Clarke counties.
This thing seems to be news and g0-0gle proof so far.
I am hearing the following - Steuben, North of Seneca, and Wauzeka(around cty N and plum creek)
Where do you hunt camp 2 dukes?
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what?
You would think someone who found 20 dead deer on their property would take a photo. Has their been a official statement from the DNR?
So far this seems totally unsubstantiated. But I am open to evidence.
I found Iowa with my initial searches, but this Wisconsin FB thing seems to be bogus, at least search proof so far
tell that to the land owners i talked to...the DNR has been contacted, and some deer have been tested and came back positive for blue tongue. I'll keep you posted DoorKnob.
Sounds like its hitting MN too...
The MN link mentions Houston County MN...that is not to far from Crawford...just saying
So everybody is afraid to tell the press about this?
I called a good friend of mine who lives in gays mills to ask him about this. All he said is he knows of a few guys that are indeed finding dead deer around the area. He hasn't heard any real numbers though.
Outdoors editor reported on it today in Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. DNR vet says only two cases confirmed in WI but they're looking for more.
Thanks AQ. Finally some real info on this!
"Although posts on social media sites this week have claimed dozens of dead deer at some Wisconsin properties, no such mortality events have been documented by state officials, Long said in a Wednesday phone interview.
The Crawford County wildlife biologist is investigating the reports of dead deer in an attempt to determine if an EHD event may be occurring in the county, Long said."
Blue tongue and EHD are NOT the same thing.
Technically true, but they are closely related, have the same clinical symptoms, and the same result. Dead deer.
I have been following the EHD case in central MN.
The midge flys that carry the disease are always around, but its when there is an overabundance that EHD becomes a noticeable event. The over abundance is typically do to an increase in suitable locations for the female to lay eggs, which is typically saturated soil/mud, and stagnant waters. This can happen with an overabundance of water or interestingly enough, drought!
When a drought comes on, rivers and creaks that once had to much water movement, have now lowered, revealing an insect breading paradise along the banks and corners.
Interestingly enough, in the very vicinity of the central Minnesota outbreak, the DNR has undergone efforts to clean a dingy lake/river chain, by controlling the river and dropping the lake level by almost 3 ft. That's a hell of a lot of new mud/swamp, which many people are starting to question as being the culprit.
Pray for an early frost in those regions!
Blue tongue or EDH is the same that is caused by virus by small flies, no cure but the loss of deer population hasn't been 25% of the population. Nature has away to equalize itself that most people get bent out of shape over it.
Early frost will end it quick.
Apparently you have never been to an area where all the deer have been wiped out. It's not pretty?.
Wisconsin wildlife officials estimate that at least 100 deer in southern Crawford County have died from an often-fatal viral infection. Epizootic hemorrhagic disease, or EHD, appears intermittently in Wisconsin within localized areas, causing high fevers among infected deer. Afflicted animals usually die within seven days.The disease poses no risk to humans and is unlikely to impact the deer herd statewide, but hunters in affected areas might notice a dearth of game this hunting season. “Say they’ve got a 40- or 80-acre parcel to hunt on, and if it’s one of these areas that has had a number of deer die off, it doesn’t look real promising for them this fall,” said Dan Goltz, wildlife biologist for Crawford and Vernon counties. “But we won’t know the extent of it for a while.” Since August, three cases of EHD have been confirmed in Crawford County, one in Iowa County and two in Richland County, but the majority of reports have been provided by the public — primarily in the Kickapoo River Valley. Samples must be tested within 48 hours, but DNR staff can infer probable cases from the proximity of the carcass to confirmed cases of EHD, clinical symptoms and location of death. “What we generally find is … a dead animal that looks like it would be healthy otherwise and it’s right on a water body,” said Bret Owsley, wildlife management district supervisor with the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.Signs of infection in a living deer include excessive, sometimes bloody, foam around the nose and mouth, a rosy or bluish tongue, appearance of weakness and approachability by humans and presence in a body of water, where they attempt to cool themselves or drink. EHD is transmitted by midges, a type of fly. The last major outbreak in Wisconsin occurred in 2012, and DNR officials believe it resulted in the deaths of about 380 deer, primarily in Columbia and Dane counties.Generally, outbreaks occur under hot, dry conditions, Owsley said, which is why he is surprised one occurred during this year’s wet and cool summer.They cease once the midges die with the first hard frost.Although nothing can be done to stop the spread of the disease, continued monitoring helps inform herd management strategies, Owsley said.“White-tailed deer are very important to us and a lot of people and so having an understanding of what’s going on is important,” he said.
Three hours ago - DNR Confirms Five Deer in Crawford and Richland Counties Died from EHD In an effort to help keep Wisconsin's deer herd healthy, state wildlife biologists are asking people to report sick or dead deer. By Wisconsin DNR | on September 25, 2019
EHD, a disease with no threat to humans can be fatal in deer, though impacts to deer populations are short-lived FacebookTwitterEmailFacebook MessengerCopy LinkSMSShare MADISON, Wis. – State wildlife officials have confirmed that tissue samples collected from three deer in Crawford County and two deer from Richland County have tested positive for the virus that causes epizootic hemorrhagic disease, or EHD. Department of Natural Resources staff confirmed the occurrence of the disease after citizens in Crawford County reported recent observations of small groups of dead deer. In addition to the three confirmed cases, wildlife staff suspect approximately 100 animals have died from EHD in Crawford County as of Sept. 20, based on clinical signs and proximity to other deer that have tested positive for the EHD virus. Staff members are following up on additional, unconfirmed reports of dead deer in Crawford County. EHD also contributed to the death of a fawn being monitored as part of the Southwest Wisconsin Deer and Predator Research Project in Iowa County. No additional suspect cases have been reported from Iowa County.
DNR staff members are also investigating reports of groups of dead deer from surrounding counties, and results from deer sampled in Sauk County are expected within the next week. The virus that causes EHD, epizootic hemorrhagic disease virus is a relatively common virus carried by midges, small flies, also known as biting gnats or no-see-ums. The EHD virus does not infect humans, according to health specialists. People are not at risk when handling infected deer, eating venison from infected deer, or being bitten by infected midges.
EHD can be fatal, especially in deer populations that have limited exposure to the virus, such as in Wisconsin. When deer die of EHD, they typically die within seven days of infection. Localized effects on deer numbers can vary in scale. Wisconsin saw one confirmed case with no additional or suspect cases in 2017. In 2012, an EHD outbreak was suspected of killing approximately 380 deer. At that time, most deaths were reported in Columbia and Dane counties.
EHD is prevalent across the southern and western United States, occasionally showing up in the Midwest. This year, outbreaks of EHD have been reported in Iowa and Indiana, and Minnesota confirmed the disease in wild deer for the first time. The disease is typically short-lived as the flies that transmit the disease die with the first hard frost.
“We are fortunate that the public is tuned into our deer and was quick to report these small pockets of infection mortality,” said DNR Wildlife Management Southern District Supervisor Bret Owsley. “We hope the public will continue reporting observations of sick or dead deer. These observations will help us more clearly understand the geographic distribution and number of deer affected by this disease. This will be valuable information to inform management decisions for future years and provide a better understanding of the overall impact of the disease on our deer population.”
Individuals who observe deer exhibiting the following signs are encouraged to report their observations to the DNR:
Excessive salivation or foaming around the nose and mouth; Appearing weak and approachable by humans; or In or near water sources. They will often lay in water to cool down or drink. Wildlife officials say that deer carcasses can be left on the landscape to decompose as the virus does not survive. The DNR will not be collecting or removing deer suspected of having died from EHD.
To report a first-hand observation of a single dead deer found near water or groups of dead deer, contact a county wildlife biologist. Fresh samples need to be collected within a day or two of death to be useful for detecting the virus. Please be prepared to provide details about the condition of the deer, the exact location where the deer was observed, and the condition of any carcasses. To learn more about EHD, visit the DNR website and search for “wildlife health.” Then click on “diseases and conditions.”
EHD is good natural selection, it can effect animals of all ages and gender. Just a normal part of the cycle, not a bad thing.
Blue Tongue will wipe out a mature herd of deer fast... in 2012 I had 8 big mature bucks on camera in early july,and in August big bucks were showing up dead in the Elk River,it was all across Missouri, I hunted all of fall up till January 15,never seen a mature deer,first time in 17 years I didn't shoot at or kill a mature buck,but it also wiped out the mature doe as well, I had a game agent tell me within 5 miles of the elk river there was over 20 something deer pulled from the river,4 was 170 class bucks... it took 3 years to see mature bucks again.. good luck..
No cure for the disease and transmission stops with a hard frost. Sounds like nothing can be done to stop or cure it? Is this just another reason for the CDAC’s to kill more deer, just to save the deer?
Capt,we had a very wet spring in 2012,followed by a hot dry summer and they say that causes the midge flies to really come out,I don't know what a cure would be I just know it will wipe out a mature herd fast,one guy in central Missiou found 3 huge bucks dead in his pond on his farm.. it was really bad..
Split, I get that it can be very hard on a local population of deer. What I am questioning is what the managers do with the information, other than to alert us about the presence of the illness? If a hard frost will stop it, why should this matter to game managers regarding future years?
Natural selection would impact old and weak, sick, and small animals, not wipe out local populations entirely.
