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Sunday hunting passe House fish and game. 21-4
Wonderful!
Now to the next step.
With a strong vote like this, it will pass the House.
Fantastic! What are next steps?
I copied this from another website to save typing. :)
"After committee approval, the House or Senate, where the measure is being debated, must consider the bill on three separate days before voting. On the first day, the bill is read on the chamber floor to alert members that the committee has reported the bill as originally introduced or amended. No amendments are offered, no debate is held and no votes are taken. Amendments to the bill may be offered on the second or third reading, after which a vote can be taken. All legislators who are present in the chamber must vote on the bill; abstentions are not allowed.
If the bill is approved by the full chamber, it is sent to the other chamber for consideration, where it must run through an identical committee structure and voting process. For example, a House bill that wins committee approval and is passed by the full House then moves to the Senate. The appropriate Senate committees must approve the measure and send it to the full Senate for voting. If the Senate changes the bill, it must go back to the House for concurrence in those changes. Identical versions of the bill must be passed by both the House and Senate before it can be sent to the Governor, who can sign it into law or veto it. "
I copied this from another website to save typing. :)
Ya lazy old man:)
I'm glad it passed but this bill feels bit like a tie, and that's been said to be like kissing your sister. I'm all in if this is just the beginning, my fear is that in 5 years we will still be thankful we are able to hunt one Sunday in archery.
Keep it moving forward boys! Great job!
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Not Sunday hunting, just Sunday trinkets. How about the amendments that were added in the house? BS....
West Virginia went through kinda the same thing, till they realized the sky was not falling. Baby steps, a total con job by the PFB but baby steps...
I for one am disappointing in the spine our reps shown on this issue.
To me the amendments were fine. Disappointed in only 3 days but it is a step. Any that are involved in the next step please let me (us interested) in on what needs done for that next step.
Guys, here in CT it took us 30 years to get bowhunting on Sunday in problem areas only. Two years later it was changed to statewide.
Getting the door open is a critical first step.
Virginia allowed Sunday hunting on PRIVATE PROPERTY in 2016
The Pa Game Commission needs to get this moving ASAP
The PGC has nothing to do with this. The legislature controls this issue
The bill is scheduled for a vote in the House on Monday
Thank you Brad, I was under the impression it was already voted on after committee.
It needs three votes before the House passes it back to the Senate. It had first consideration the other day. Needs 2 more
I was just looking at the game commission web site and clicked on the status of the Sunday hunting bill. It says status is "laid on table" Oct 22nd. Doesn't this mean the cowards decided not to even vote on it?
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/billInfo/billInfo.cfm?syear=2019&sInd=0&body=S&type=B&bn=147
It just passed second consideration about 6:15. This means a final vote will be taken in the future. A couple amendments were added and passed with a huge majority.
Might bode well for the final vote?
It goes to Appropriations, but immediately after second consideration, the chairman of Appropriations announced they would meet at 8:30 pm. News reports from the AP say this may get final passage tomorrow!
Let's hope
WOW! FIngers crossed............................................
It doesn't show up as being voted on by Appropriations as of 3:40 today.
It's on the calendar for today but word is the GOP is not running it. No idea why. It did go thru Appropriations, if I read it right
It went thru Appropriations unanimously today
Vote Summary YEAS: 36 NAYS: 0 NV: 1 Result: Passed
GREAT! Next hurdle.............
Now a Representative has said the leader will not run it because it doesn't have the votes???
The GOP is full of chit!
There are 140 votes FOR this bill, the problem is the Dems are all ready to vote for it, but the GOP will look like fools because it will look like the Dems won!
VICTORY!!!
IT PASSED WITHOUT THE WRITTEN PERMISSION PROVISION!!!!
Awesome.......................................
Senate vote for concurrence scheduled for Nov 18
The written permission was required by the Farm Bureau to get them to go nuetral on the bill.
Apparently, this is a kick in the teeth for the FB?
I may be wrong about the written permission. Either way, SB 147 passed
Glad to hear it! But what’s up with the written permission???
You will need written permission on private property for those three Sundays
Ok- Thanks Brad! I guess I can live with that! ;-)
From what I've read there was an amendment that this will take place next season in 2020/2021 not this current hunting season of 2019/2020.
The bill had language to that changed the effective date from "immediately" to "90 days". That puts it into next hunting seasons.
It never could have been implemented this season anyway. The goal always was 2020
The bill is on its way to the Governor for signing!
Fantastic! Thanks for keeping us in the loop Brad!
A HUGE thanks goes out to Harold Daub, who took this two years ago and brought it this far, with a team that worked many hours. Harold took over HUSH, and never looked back. Thanks also to Senator Dan Laughlin for spearheading this in the legislature. Hunters truly have a good friend there.
Harold then was offered the job as Executive Director of the PFSC and I don't think we could have a better person at the helm there.
And final thanks, and most of the thanks should go EVERY individual that called or emailed their elected representatives. A lone voice is nothing, many voices can make change.
You all created change! Thank you!
Yes thank you to all. Hopefully this small step leads into more Sunday's being added or every Sunday during the season. A lot of the people that didn't want it don't realize we don't hunt every day we can and then when a Saturday comes if is a torrential downpour archery hunting is pretty much a bust and if you are lucky enough to launch an arrow tracking something is pretty much impossible.
Big thanks to you Brad for everything. I now you spent a lot of blood, sweat and tears on this too.
Yup Ole Amos did that fo sure..
^5 Amos
A BIG THANKS to Brad, Kathy, Harold and all the others who had a hand in this! : )
Things CAN change in PA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)
A Brady Bunch version of a bill that was watered down to please the PFB and all the entities against it. As promoted, we really got nothing more than a crumb of 3 days of SH. It's a start but we really got lambasted in the wording and terms.
Thanks to all that were instrumental in getting it this far! I'm hoping and optimistic that this will lead to adding more Sundays and eventually every Sunday in the future.
After waiting all these years, I'll not bitch and complain about this start.
Thank you Brad for continuing this, Dan for keeping us informed on his thread. Please pass along thanks to Kathy as well as Harold. I hope this is just the beginning. I will call and write to state reps whenever needed, and if more is needed please drop me a PM.
Congrats guys! I know that it feels like only a small win, but it's something.
Here is CT we got Sunday Bow only, Deer only, private land only, first in just parts of the state "overpopulated with deer" then the whole state.
We'll keep working on it, and hope for everything, everywhere, but ... it will take time.
Enjoy what you have accomplished so far, stay safe and keep at it!
The real question is: All of those guys that were dead set against SH, and all the posturing and crying they did against it... Will they hunt that day, or will they clean and groom those morels of those they so staunchly defended? Me thinks they will slip out and hope no one notices... Riding on the backs of those that worked hard for even a few morsels to Sunday hunt on.. Me thinks so...
The bill has new Tresspassing laws. Now you can be arrested for trespassing and you need written permission to hunt on private property on Sundays. I'm glad it passed but I don't think it's going to increase the number of hunters, might even cause more posted property.
Over 4.5 MILLION acres of public property will be open to Sunday hunting.
Welcome to the real world gentlemen !! Congrats to all those that worked on getting this passed
Can anyone share how the PGC will interpret /implement the law? How will they determine which Sunday for given season?
The article I read said one SUnday in Archery, one sunday in Rifle and one to be determined by the PGC. But no specific dates.
Would be great if they picked September 20 for archery, Sunday before Thanksgiving for rifle, and a Sunday in June for groundhogs. Just to show the absurdity of it.
They could legally do 3 Sundays in Spring Turkey for the rest of this license year then start over for the next license year.
Thank for link @rutnut for info I saw those articles also just was wonder how PGC would choose dates and if there was any transparency to the process... I guess we shall see.
Art, they couldn't do three Sundays for spring turkey because, by law, one has to be in rifle deer and one in archery.
Congrats guys! Even though it's a small step, it's a critical step. Nice work Brad and all involved.
Just read (in Pa Outdoor News) what Sundays will be proposed at the January PGC Meeting
Ok, just have bear open the day before Thanksgiving. What's the big deal?
And NOT the Saturday BEFORE???
Yes also the Sunday before. Saturday thru Wednesday
Oh, I read that as OPENing bear the day before T-giving.
Apparently for some reason they don;t want Bear and Fall Turkey open on the same day.
Probably because they don't want incidental turkey kills by bear hunters?
Yeah, I guess they could get a lot of turkeys while driving for bear! ;-)