Buying standing dead beetle killed tree
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From: The last savage
12-Jan-20
I posted this same question on Wyoming,, so does anyone know of a state or federal program that allows you to either cut down standing dead beetle killed tree's or remove the dead ones already down?? Also do any landowners sell standing dead tree's? I appreciate any direction, link or insights.. thanks guys. Pat
From: cnelk
12-Jan-20
Sure. Contact a local Forest Service office and get a firewood permit. I think they sell them for $10/cord. There might be limitations on where you can get the wood due to logging operations.
I know several people that do this.
From: cnelk
12-Jan-20
I also know you can buy a semi load of tree length logs directly from loggers.
From: The last savage
12-Jan-20
Really... hmm thats interesting cnelk, i pmed u, but heres what im tring to do, build myself a cabin, and as cheap as possible..of course! The truckload sounds like the ticket. Thx sir
From: cnelk
12-Jan-20
Your best bet is definitely standing trees. The ones on the ground are usually punky and deteriorated enough where you wouldnt want them
This pic is a typical FS road in the summer time
From: The last savage
12-Jan-20
Gotcha,, agreed or fresh fallen trees id guess,, good information,, thx
From: Jaquomo
12-Jan-20
Up here where I live landowners pay a lot of money to get someone to cut and haul standing beetle-kill. If they dont, the county fines them.
From: Jaquomo
12-Jan-20
BTW, Pat, I know someone who did exactly what you are considering. I know someone else who was trying to do it but the relatively short building season in the mountains caused them to finally give up and buy a log kit.
From: Glunt@work
12-Jan-20
Do some due diligence. The local sawmill is backing off on some beetle kill products because a lot of the dead trees are getting past the point of being usable for some applications. We have been paneling and trimming a buddy's cabin along with building tables and a bar top from stuff we cleared on his property. Beautiful stuff but having to sort some out.
From: The last savage
12-Jan-20
Thx guys ,jaq if i can get a foundation in by April id be in fantastic shape by july..building &carpentry is what i bleed..
From: Jaquomo
12-Jan-20
Depends on where you buy land. Where I live you'll possibly still be fighting several feet of snow in April, depending upon whether you pony-up and pay for something south-facing or go less expensive on north facing and regret it. March is our snowiest month. You might want to rent something for a season wherever you are thinking in this area.
From: The last savage
13-Jan-20
Excellent input jaq, yeah thats actually my plan exactly, rent and taste the dirt for a while to acclimate to the region.gonna be a blast!!!!
From: Mathewsphone
13-Jan-20
I have several standing that you can have
From: loggerchas
13-Jan-20
Depending on how long the tree has been dead, standing dead trees may be infested with sawyer beetles or other large beetles that have large white "grubs" in the pupal stage (former forester here). I helped a guy build a one room cabin late one fall from LPP trees on his property and when it warmed up the next spring (with the added help of his wood stove) he had an infestation of large flying beetles coming out of the wood as roommates in his cabin. Didn't really hurt anything, but when using raw logs expect a bit of bonus critters during the build and once the wood warms up the following year....
From: altitude sick
18-Jan-20
I used 100+ yr old chestnut barn beams for an interior project. I’ve used sprays designed to kill wood borers. But the best way to kill borers deep in the wood is to kiln dry it. The heat kills live bugs and larvae.
Obviously, Whole logs or beams are more time and cost than boards.
From: The last savage
19-Jan-20
Jay,standing trees killed by beetles ia FARcheaper than any salvaged barn lumber.building a cabin requires logs....and about 15 or 20 percent of conventional lumber. ( my plan does) I'll deal with the beetles when i have to..
From: altitude sick
20-Jan-20
I agree the dead logs are cheaper than barn beams.
They also harvest fire damaged trees for wood.
I was just warning about building anything with wood borers in it.
After it’s built would be a very expensive process to kill them.
From: altitude sick
20-Jan-20
My mud room done with barn beams.
My mud room done with barn beams.
From: altitude sick
20-Jan-20
From: altitude sick
20-Jan-20
From: yooper89
20-Jan-20
Altitude that is freaking awesome.
From: altitude sick
20-Jan-20
Thanks it was my summer weekend project. The tin ceiling, and pex tubing in the concrete (Radient floor heat) was a first for me.
Thanks it was my summer weekend project. The tin ceiling, and pex tubing in the concrete (Radient floor heat) was a first for me.
From: The last savage
22-Jan-20
Damn nice work!! Coming from an almost 4 decade carpenter..
From: altitude sick
22-Jan-20
Believe it or not the paint was the tricky part. Getting the 4 different tones correct for the look I wanted. If interested I used a paint technique with the “WOOLIE” Paint tools. Sheepskin tools
The technique is easy. Selecting the right paint shades is hard. They all look different in every room